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there at their convention how he would measure progress. he literally used these words, he said we measure progress differently than republicans, presumably, but it was the fact that he said we measure progress and then he described how it was he and his party measured progress, and i think it's interesting given the fact that he laid out what his report card would be to go back and score him on the very report card he laid out. he said, for instance, that we, the democrats measure progress by whether people have good jobs that can pay for mortgages. okay. we're three and a half years later and he has not yet created a single net new job in america where three and a half years later there were job losses and 93% of the people that lost jobs had been women. on the measure that he himself put in place, creating jobs where people could pay mortgages, he fails, and there was another measure that he laid out. he said in a setting where you were having progress, you could measure it by whether people saw wages and incomes going up or going down. oh, yea, okay. for the last four years the median income in america has dropped by 10%. in barack obama's turn, the median income in america has dropped by $3,000. this, even as health care costs have gone up, gasoline prices have doubled, food costs have gone up. second measure, he's failed. third measure he spoke about. he said to see progress you'll want to see people with a dream or an idea being willing to take the risk to start a new business. so what's happened in the world of business start-ups? they dropped by about 150,000 a year under this president. again, on the measure he himself set out, he's failed. now, a lot of other measures as well, we have record levels of people on food stamps. record levels of poverty. the number of people who dropped from the middle class into poverty has reached historic proportion. you have at the same time home values that have dropped by 30% or more in some cases and in some cases still going down. on almost every measure this president has failed. he's also failed overseas. senator mccain described one of the areas he's failed and that's with regard to israel and our relationship with that country and the need to show solidarity with our allies. we're not closer to peace in the middle east by virtue of his policies in israel. the arab spring has turned into an arab winter. he failed to execute a status of forces agreement to make sure that the gains that were achieved at great costs in iraq would be able to be preserved and secured. he entered into an agreement with the soviet -- excuse me, with russia with regard to the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty which i think it was exceptionally one-sided. they're rushing to nuclearization with no slowdown in sitght and in regard to afghanistan, he made a number of errors with our relationship there. he is clearly out of ideas and out of excuses so it's our job in november to make sure we put him out of office. >> so mitt romney, the republican presumptive presidential nominee delivering a speech in phoenix, arizona going after, not surprisingly, the president of the united states on domestic economic issues on national security issues, foreign policy issues and we'll continue to monitor what he has to say. there's been some speculation that he may make an appeal to hispanic voters around the country. we'll check in and see what he's saying on this story coming up later this hour. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a courtroom drama at a bond hearing for the man who shot the unarmed florida teenager trayvon martin. george zimmerman took the stand and surprised everyone as he addressed the martin family only moments before the judge set a $150,000 bond. cnn's david mattingly is in sanford, florida. it was a surprise to folks with zimmerman on the stand. what did he actually say? >> that's right, wolf. we went into the courtroom today fully expecting to learn something new about the evidence that the prosecution has against george zimmerman. instead we heard from george zimmerman himself and an apology. with his freedom on the line george zimmerman surprises the courtroom taking the stand at his own bond hearing and speaking directly to the parents of trayvon martin. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am, and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> reporter: attorneys for martin's parents called the apology self-serving saying zimmerman had many chances to express remorse before now. >> all throughout, tracy martin had tears in his eyes as he watched the killer of his son and it was devastating that he got to give a self-serving apology to help him get a bond. they were very outraged at that. >> reporter: challenged by the prosecute on the timing of his apology zimmerman says he told police he was sorry and wanted to talk to martin's parent, but couldn't. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother, why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> another surprise, the prosecutor's own investigator called to testify by zimmerman's attorney. he revealed they do not know who threw the first punch during zimmerman's deadly fight with trayvon martin and voice testing has not determined who was heard shouting for help on the 911 calls. >> did you do any forensic analysis on that voice tape? >> did i? >> did you or are you aware of any? >> "the orlando sentinel" had someone do it, and the fbi has had someone do it. >> is that part of your investigation? >> yes, it is. >> and has that given you any insight to the extent that you're aware of it as to the voice? >> no. >> reporter: zimmerman can go free on $150,000 bond, but safety is a problem. as a security precaution, zimmerman's father, mother and wife all testified by telephone. >> i've received hate mail. >> have you reported that to the police? >> no, i haven't. >> have you reported that to the state attorney's office? >> no, sir. >> did you keep those -- >> i'm sorry? >> did you keep that hate mail? >> yes. >> reporter: and security remains the overriding concern behind zimmerman's release. he has to somehow get out of jail and escape the notice of dozens of cameras outside of jail waiting to see any kind of movement there and then go back into hiding, wolf, where he was before he turned himself in. >> we've heard from trayvon martin's family attorney. have we heard directly from the parents and the family? >> reporter: we heard -- we did not hear directly from the family. the parents walked out immediately after the hearing today and they let their attorney do the talking for them. they were very stoic as they were sitting in the courtroom, sometimes speaking quietly to one another, but when this was over they left quickly and let their attorney express their outrage. >> david mattingly on the scene for us. thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with legal analyst sunny hostin who contributes to "in session" our sister network trutv. were you surprised that he was about to be released on $150,000 bond? >> i was not surprised that he would get some sort of bond package because in florida, quite frankly, the standard -- the burden, rather, is very high on the prosecution. it's almost beyond beyond a reasonable doubt. so i suspected that he book given a bond package. i am surprised at the $150,000 bond. i think that's a bit low considering the gravity of the charge here. i mean with the -- bond of 150, that means he would have to put up about $15,000 in cash. while this is a family of limited means, i think that that could be considered very low. the prosecution asked for about $1 million. >> a lot of us were stunned to see he actually was up on the witness stand, jeffrey. what do you make of that? >> i thought today was a home run for george zimmerman and his lawyer. i thought they really ran rings around the prosecution. they got bail which is hugely, hugely important, and i think they exposed some weaknesses in the investigation in where things stand with the prosecution, and we'll see whether the prosecution can remedy that by the time this case goes to trial, but today this did not look like a very strong case. a long way to go, but today it didn't look that way. >> do you agree with that assessment, sunny? >> no, i actually don't. bottom line is the prosecution did a fine job. they didn't want to tip their hand. it's just a bond hearing. you're not going to put out all of the evidence. all of the evidence they relied upon was in the affidavit of probable cause and in that affidavit it says very clearly that it was not a reser tagz of fact. i disagree with jeff. i don't think the defense ran rings around this prosecution team. i do think that the defense did a good job, and i think what we saw was two very good attorneys, very skilled attorneys doing what they needed to do for their positions. >> you want to respond to that, jeff? >> i just think the bail issue, for starters is just so important because this will have implications beyond just the fact that zimmerman is out. the fact that zimmerman is out means that his lawyer can put this case in slow motion. he is going to want to delay, delay, delay because his client's out of prison and he now can ask for every test under the sun. he can let emotions cool and he will not have a client who was in prison demanding a trial and when are you going to get me out of here? this is an invitation to the defense to slow things down and from everything we've seen so far, that's precisely what the defense is going to do. >> based on what i've heard, sunny, and you know about this more than i do. second-degree murder is a very, very serious charge, and to be released on $150,000 bond which really means putting up $15,000 or so, it sounds pretty extraordinary to me, very unusual, but go ahead. give me your assessment. >> it sounded too low to me, but i've spoken with many of the attorneys in florida who indicate actually they thought it was sort of high. that that is a high bond for that charge in that area of florida, but i do agree with jeff in that this is a win for the defense in the sense that it will put this case on the slow track, no question about that. defense attorney o'mara said today to me that this means that the stand your ground hearing, if they're even going have one is several months down the line. had zimmerman remained in jail, that's, i think, a hearing that we would have seen much quicker than that. >> sunny hostin and jeff toobin, guys thanks very much. mitt romney and rice, condoleezza rice. what's going on? 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>> i think you see a model here in arizona. >> he stated very publicly that arizona's law should be a model for how the federal government enforces immigration laws and he's correct there, too. >> reporter: the romney campaign said he was not endorsing arizona's law only the e verify system used by employers to confirm the legal status of workers. >> reporter: recent polls show him losing the hispanic vote by 40 percentage votes which is why joe biden says he thinks the president has a shot at winning the state and after the event that happened in arizona, rom no is scheduled to meet at a hispanic roundtable because he hasn't had many interactions with latino voters? when you're running for a republican contest, if you're a conservative, to get the nomination you run to the right, but as soon as you get it and he apparently now has it you run right back to the center. so we may be seeing some of that pivot unfolding right now. >> that will be the test for him. the question is whether he ran off a cliff during the primaries instead of running to the right on the subject of illegal immigration. it is unclear whether latino voters would take those positions he's had and be satisfied. >> if he pivots on this issue it will upset a lot of those on the right. if he pivots toward the center and does a comprehensive immigration reform a la john mccain supported by ted kennedy and george w. bush. that will be a sensitive issue. thanks very much. we'll watch it very closely. there's growing buzz about who romney could be choosing as a potential vice presidential running mate. our senior correspondent, joe johns will take a closer look. joe? >> wolf, this is a dance that mitt romney actually went through last time around. he was vetted as one of the potential vice presidential prospects for john mccain, romney, and one of his closest advisers, beth meyers, are at the very beginning of a delicate and potentially risky selection process. mitt romney can afford to take his time on the running mate thing. the republican convention isn't until late summer. >> i don't have a list for you. i can tell you that we have an embarrassment of riches. there are a number of extraordinarily strong leaders. >> reporter: in the latest cnn/orc poll, we took a look at the early favorites. the biggest surprise on cnn's list of potential running mates is a blast from the past. former secretary of state condoleezza rice came in first. when respondents were asked who would you like to see mitt romney choose and rice has something in common with a bunch of other potential vice presidential candidates. she's already said she's not up for it. >> i'm not interested. >> in being vice president. >> in being vice president. >> 26% of republicans and independents favored condoleezza rice for romney's running mate, followed by former pennsylvania senator rick santorum at 21%, even though for the record santorum who recently suspended his campaign for president hasn't so much as endorsed romney, at least not so far. in the second tier of possible running mate, the straight-talking governor of new jersey chris christie is tied at 14% with freshman florida senator marco rubio, a tea party favorite according to the poll. the cuban-american rube yo who could help romney in a key battleground state has expressed zero interest in the job so many times some people are starting to believe him. >> i'm not going to be the vice presidential -- no, i'm not. >> reporter: the third tier of potential running mates include house budget committee chairman paul ryan of wisconsin. louisiana governor, bobby jindal and virginia governor bob mcdonnell. one of the most prominently mentioned running mates ron portman who has twice held cabinet-level positions gets an as terrific here because he registered less than one-half of 1% in the polling. in ohio earlier this year i asked portman whether he's interested in the job. he said no. >> reporter: what do you think of running as vice president with this guy? >> i'm happy representing these folks in ohio. >> reporter: this is essentially a name recognition question right now with some people who may be considered for the number two slot. the main thing the running mate's got to be, no big secret. >> the one quality that comes to mind is you want someone to run the country as president if that were necessary. >> senator kelly ayott of new hampshire, nikki haley of south carolina and former florida governor jeb bush. in jetting the candidates they're expected to use a question air similar to the one mccain filled out when he was being considered as a vice presidential running mate. wolf? >> joe johns, thanks very much. sources close to romney, portman is someone they're taking a serious, and closer look at. listen to what portman told john king last night. >> a lot of people say the traditional school was get someone who locks you up a state and they think ron portman would lock you up ohio. no republican has won the presidency without wing ohio. >> i think he's going to win ohio and the top issue in ohio is jobs and the economy. it's true in lorraine county whereby the way theray 8.7% unemployment and people are looking aro

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