i'm dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ democrats fearful of another trump presidency, and they are sending out more smoke signals in the hopes that someone at 1600 pennsylvania avenue is watching. one very worried fundraiser bluntly telling "the washington post" that his party is prepared to lose, and adding this colorful quote, as my grandfather used to say -- make that the great-grandfather -- i'm as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. we all know this is a jump ball. that's way to mix a metaphor right there. biden's former right-hand man is going on tv, former white house chief of staff ron klain, says the president is to get it together, jesse. >> prices are still high. price of gasoline is still high. other prices are still high. and people can feel that pinch. and their wages have gone up and faster than prices. people still feel pinched in their pocket books. the president needs to make more progress on that as we continue to fight to bring down prices. on key things that matter to family. >> dana: biden a doctor jill have been adamant the polls are just flat out wrong so the new w posters, the camping beating up operations on that front right now. it's a little bit hard to take, ron klain, jesse, talking about inflation. this is a guy who was chief of staff of the first two years, pushed back on everyone like larry summers on the democratic party who said, guys, you really want to pass all of this extra spending because it could lead to inflation? he was like, you guys are ridiculous, that'll never happen. look what happened. >> jesse: let me ask greg, he chopped so much would today come he knows the price of lumber. is the pilling on your shirt on purpose? >> greg: yes, i feel like it is very in style -- >> jesse: you paid extra for the billing. like when you buy the genes ripped, you bought the shirt filled. that's why it costs so much. and with mustard? >> greg: mustard is in, jesse. the kids love mustard. >> jesse: okay, good. so i don't know how much progress they have made on inflation. no one else believes they have made any progress. if you look at all of the prices, the prices are not coming down no matter how much they try to rig the numbers. we keep on hearing about this job's boom. all of the jobs are coming from people that were born in another country. that is what brings down wages. i just saw him not to replenish strategic oil reserve because price of oil is too high to do it. it's at $86 a barrel. he was going to do it at $70. i think oil prices are even going to go higher and the stock market had a rough day -- imagine that. the stock market corrects. basically guaranteed to be a reelection. we will see how that shakes out. new pollsters? to do what? to give polls to joe that make it look like he is doing better? all of these polls are done by liberals. even the fox news poll mark has joe biden losing. he is at 38% approval in the battlegrounds. donald trump is at 51% approval. donald trump is wildly popular. wildly more popular than joe biden in the states that are going to make the selection count. his coalition is absolutely collapsing. he is tied with hispanics. he is tied with young voters. and he, the numbers have been soft, not like let's be no my jesse said. i have spaghetti bridges to sell you if you think you're going to be tied with -- >> jesse: spaghetti bridge to nowhere. >> jessica: specialize in latino voters and black voters. and i think that that's smart strategy. >> dana: you are an expert, how does that change things for biden? >> jessica: he will get a wider array of information, more people on his advisory team, and i think that is useful, you don't want to have a cocoon candidacy, right? you want as diverse set of opinions as you can. ron klain's right to be out there we see the data coming back about how people feel about their pocketbooks, what they see at the grocery stores, et cetera. but this streak of positive data for the president has continued. looking at the real clear politics average today, biden is now up .1 -- >> dana: here we go. >> jessica: it's true. >> jesse: fire that pollster. >> jessica: is that johnny or you have someone else? 16 polls since the end of february have biden up. "the wall street journal" poll yesterday, it was all within the margin of error, which is an important part of this, but bloomberg morning console polls from last week have him gaining in six of the seven swing states. the jump ball is correct and democrats understand that, and we do better when we are running a little bit scared. the bedwetting philosophy. >> dana: remember yesterday we talked, dr. jill biden saying he is a sure thing. they are not saying they are worried at all. >> judge jeanine: and joe biden actually not only denied that the polls in the swing states were what they are, with trump ahead six and seven, but she said her husband is actually winning, and as we go forward you are going to see he is winning. you have to wonder, dana, why all of a sudden did they figure, you know what, bidenomics isn't working. what took them so long? everybody has been telling them it hasn't been working. so finally they say, okay, we can't, because the swing states are so bad, we can't keep doing this and telling people bidenomics is great and you are great, you just don't know it or you are not smart enough to feel it. but 74% of people think the economy is going in the wrong direction. and in the swing states, something like 63% think that the economy is not good or very poor. and let's be honest, this whole election is about the swing states. and so they are bringing in these news pollsters, bringing the pollsters because they cannot change joe, cognitively, they cannot change him. he is not going to get any better. is he going to debate? probably not. i don't know if you will but i don't have any inside information. but the truth is these pollsters are the ones who came up with the maga doctrine. so you can pretty much count on the fact that the new pollsters are going to create this division. they are going to create this hate. because if you can't win on the issues, you can try to demonize the other guy. and i think that is what is going to happen. >> dana: jessica brings up the candidate -- like a cocoon election. >> greg: it certainly is. when the dems are nervous, i am nervous, and when they are nervous, i'm nervous. because they actually take this more seriously, i think, than republicans do. i would put a pause on any of these feel-good stories that predict this premature demise of joe biden. if the democratic party is the official party of us be 25, the affluent white liberal females, only one issue, i beat this horse yesterday, it is abortion. these are not single-issue voters, single issue fanatics. the border could get worse, crime and could triple, speech could be banned, war could explode, prices would soar, none of that matters, because in case you haven't noticed, it doesn't matter now. what you are seeing today is a result of the abortion voter. you have billions flowing to foreign countries, drug addiction, homelessness, the decline of education, the decline in mental health, did i say inflation? inflation. all of these are happening now, and they are consequences of a party that won due to millions of women who were galvanized to vote because they felt abortion was under threat. if you want these bad things to continue, by all means, energizing the pro-abortion action because their just want to keep voting. you said yesterday, trump could say he'll leave abortion alone, they probably won't believe him, probably right. jessica said there is in a footage of trump saying they are contrary, it is right, it is a challenge, so i think republicans have to be blunt and say, hey, if you want your abortion, you can keep your abortion. our moral argument exists, and we hope that one day you will listen to it. and take it seriously. but right now, our mission is to save this country because you cannot reduce abortion in america if there is no america left, so a pro-life shift would be from politics to persuasion, right, because threats and bands know mike bans only feed the beasts they have to say, hey, ln roe v. wade, now let's focus on everything else because abortion, whether you like it or not, and i am pro-life, it has become an acceptable evil, just like water. we hate war, but there it goes, and men wage of the war, women wage of the abortions, call it even. you take abortion off the table, republicans will be in power forever. >> dana: it's really interesting point. >> greg: why thank you, dana. >> dana: don't you want to make fun of jesse? >> greg: i didn't see it. that's a silly pen. by the way, how did you know what to call this? >> dana: pilling? >> greg: i was thoroughly confused. >> jesse: because i have a lot of pilled sure it's because i'm not as wealthy as you, greg. >> dana: everything pills and it is very annoying. >> judge jeanine: you can get one of those things that scratches the pilling off. do you have one of those? >> jesse: a depiller? >> dana: ask manny. all right, arnold schwarzenegger is flexing some muscle against illegal immigrants as the feds bust a migrant squatter crime ring. ♪ ♪ your yard is your sanctuary. where you should feel free. i know... i was talking about the dogs. they need their lawn back fast and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass. it's revolutionary mix of seed and fertilizer that grows grass 2 times faster than just seed alone. giving you a stronger lawn. release the hounds! smell that freedom, eh? i smell it! i'm still talking to the dogs. get scotts turf builder rapid grass today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it. ok y'all we got 10 orders coming in... big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it 8 months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs. the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. everyone say, “space pod.” cheese. 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arnold arguing against his own preferences, i.e. foreign maids, so this is a meaningful stance coming from him. >> jesse: it is. but you have to remember, when he was immigrating or when many people immigrated to this country, they weren't given anything. you got here and because you weren't given anything, you had to hustle, and a lot of immigrants hustled their tails off and created empires. this country is built from immigration. and that all changes when the minute you get here, you are bused to a metropolis, and you are handed a free hotel room, free debit card, free food, and just showered with welfare. you have an immediate inclination to say, this is great, why do i have to hustle? why do i have to get a job? why do i have to work to get an apartment if everyone is just going to give me free stuff? so now people know that and they are not coming for the american dream, they are coming for american welfare, and some of them are good people. some of them are bad hombres, jessica, and there is a lot of migrant crime, msnbc denies there is migrant crime but how many perp walks do you have to see on camera for you to see, yes, people are committing crimes. >> greg: you know, it's interesting those stories that immigrants have of coming into america with nothing in building themselves up, those stories are all going to be gone. >> dana: when your parents say they used to walk to school uphill both ways. immigrants to this country actually used too. it was arduous, it was hard, and they did a lot, and now we are in a situation where you can just walk into somebody's unoccupied home and you can live there, you can trash the joint, and then when gets media attention, all of a sudden that is when i.c.e. will come in, and i expect there will be some loss it's from someone who says these poor people should not be kicked out of this house, that there might -- i would be curious what the judge thinks about this -- there might actually be a challenge in the court about sanctuary cities. let's have that debate. the other thing i would mention his president biden has really turned in the last couple of weeks since he had that radio city music hall event, and i think that barack obama got to him and said, stop talking about the border. it is not helping you. you need to turn your attention to the things that are going to help you win this election, which is health care, because he wants obamacare to be saved, and at the same time, for example, in texas, the biden administration said they were going to go and they were going to cut the razor wire in texas. they have never sent a soul to do that. why? because they really don't want to because they know that that would be a terrible visual for them. and they know that the razor wire is actually helping them. if they were to go and actually cut the razor wire, then the a block, we wouldn't have had to do the a block because the polls would be different. >> greg: why can't hochul do something, judge, but any kind of -- these squatter loopholes, everybody who hears about it goes, wait, they just stay there for 30 days, how did this ha happen? >> judge jeanine: the first question you asked is why doesn't hochul do something? because she doesn't want to. we saw that ron desantis in florida did something. he did it. the law is passed, signed, going into effect. what we are living in is a democrat -- this is the epitome of a democrat-run state. everything from the sanctuary city state to the no bail to the no discretion on the part of the judges to d.a.'s not prosecuting crimes with no accountability -- look, this whole thing started with eight squatters living in a home that was not theirs since october. and they were living there with guns and drugs and a 7-year-old child in the midst of it all. so because they are pointing these guns that people and running around with them, the police catch on. the police make arrests. and six of the eight defendants are released by judges. and i want to mention their names because i think it is about time we understood that when the d.a. asks for bail and you do not give it to them, we've got in the bronx a judge eugene bowen, pow en, and on the bronx judge lawrence bucci, bu sch ing. could incite bail so they are gone. two of those individuals have been charged with attempted murder just like that guy was last week, and the jonathan diller homicide. he was the driver, charged with attempted murder in yonkers and possession of a weapon, and he is out on bail. i have an idea. the idea is this. if you are an illegal and you get into trouble with the law, you are not entitled to bail. bail is not afforded to you. bail is something that should only be afforded to people who have roots in the community, who we know who they are, they have a job, they have family, the whole purpose of veil is to ensure the return to court. if you are illegal, you are, by definition, someone who we can no longer expect to return to court, in fact, their agenda is to never respond, just the way four of these venezuelans, or all venezuelans, they came in and already they didn't show up for their processing appointments. shock. so it's time that we change the law in new york. if you are illegal, you don't get bail. >> greg: last word to you, jessica. >> jessica: well, on martha's hour, the 3:00 hour, she had on the nypd chief of patrol, who was talking about a lot of these issues, and he used very similar rhetoric to how arnold schwarzenegger was talking about migrants, which is the correct approach on how a majority of people feel, that most of the folks who come here are good. they want a better life. they will pay their taxes. they will do whatever they do, they need to do. and that is why you do need to be harsher on those that are doing things like this and there needs to be real consequences. and he made sure to say, they get their day in court there are not interested in throwing someone back over the border the second they are accused of something. >> greg: i am. >> jessica: i understand that. but you are not going to be the chief of patrol. >> greg: not yet. >> jessica: not ever. but i thought it was a really important balance that he struck they are because that is how people in cities like new york d chicago and baltimore and d.c. and i would say even a lot of red areas feel when they know a lot of migrants. joey jones always says that he grew up in a part of georgia, i think like 80% were migrants. >> greg: i don't think anybody has ever -- this is the issue of the democrats. they are the ones that conflate the lawful and the unlawful. we don't. >> jessica: i don't -- >> greg: bad hombres is specifically bad hombres. it is not all hombres. >> jessica: there is a language problem -- >> greg: it's about the language -- >> jessica: it's not always about -- >> d>> judge jeanine: they are called migrants, illegal aliens. we change the language. >> greg: we must go. coming up, the media's most daring trump expose yet, his spotify playlist. ♪ ♪ isolated...depressed... and embarrassed. that's how it felt to live with bladder and bowel incontinence. but that changed when my urologist told me about axonics therapy. a long-lasting solution that has really changed my life. this is not another drug, and it works. visit findrealrelief.com to arrange an appointment with an expert physician to determine if axonics therapy is right for you. results and experiences may vary. stop suffering in silence. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: after probing russia attacks in his personal attacks, the media has a pulitzer prize where the expose on donal donald trump. behold d.j. donald bugle left-wing axios during a deep dive on how trump mar-a-lago spotify playlist is a rosetta stone that demystifies is how his mind works. "trump controls the surround sound stereo with his big ipad and it spotify list. regulars jokingly call it the djt performance. the express reportedly loves to blast the speaker so loud that people have trouble talking as he marvels at the sound quality. so what is trump jamming to these days? broadway show tunes like "phantom of the opera." an old school bangers from the likes of elvis, lionel richie, guns n' roses, elton john. [laughter] what does this tell you about the former president, judge jeanine? >> judge jeanine: well, i can't figure ou