or five years ago. >> the word that she relayed to the president called the vice president, a -- apologized for being impolite. do you remember what the president called him? >> the p word. >> mr. jacob, how do you describe the demeanor of the vice president following that call with the president? >> when he came back in to the room, i'd say he was steely, determined, grim. >> of course, the most dangerous part of what donald trump did on january 6th was what he did himself. as will be discussed in detail in a future hearing, our investigation found that early drafts of the january 6 elipse speech prepared for the president included no mention of the vice president. the president revised it to include criticism of the vice president and then further ad libbed. here's what the president said january 6 after his call with vice president pence. >> i hope mike will do the right thing. i hope so. i hope so. because if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. all vice president pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify. we become president and you are the happiest people. and i actually -- i just spoke to mike. mike, that doesn't take courage. what takes courage is to do nothing. that takes courage. and then we're stuck with a president that lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. we're just not going to let that happen. mike pence is going to have to come through for us. if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. and they want to recertify their votes. they want to recertify. but the only way that can happen is if mike pence agrees to send it back. so i hope mike has the courage to do what he has to do. i hope he doesn't listen to the rinos and the stupid people that he's listening to. >> of course, we all know what happened next. the president's words had an effect. president trump's supporters became angry. when the vice president issued his public letter, the crowd at that capitol erupted in anger. the rioters who had erected makeshift galloing began chanting "hang mike pence." testimony in our investigation has made clear what the target of the rioters ire, vice president mike pence. the righters breached the capitol at 2:13 p.m. now let's take a look at what was going on at the white house at this time. we received temperature that the president's chief of staff, mark meadows was notified of the violence at the capitol by 2:00 p.m. and likely earlier. the testimony further establishes that mr. meadows quickly informed the president and he did so before the president issued his 2:24 p.m. tweet criticizing vice president pence for not having "courage" to do what needed to be done. here's what the president wrote in his 2:24 p.m. tweet. while the violence at the capitol was going on. here's what the rioters thought. >> he deserves to burn with the rest of them. >> this escalated after pence. what happened to pence? pence didn't do what we wanted. >> he voted against trump. >> that's when all this started? >> yep. that's when we marched on the capitol. we've been shot at with rubber bullets, tear gas. >> mike pence is not going to reject any fraudulent votes. that's right. you heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. mike pence has betrayed this country and he's been trayed the people of the united states and we will never ever forget. >> real simple. pence betrayed us, which apparently everybody knew he was going to. the president mentioned it like five times when he talked. you can go back and watch the president's video. >> this is our capitol. be respectful to it. four million people coming in. a lot of control. we love the cops. love you guys. >> it's only a matter of time. justice is coming. >> although the president's chief of staff mark meadows has refused to testify before this committee, mr. meadows aide, ben williamson and white house deputy press sister sarah matthews testified that mr. meadows went to the dining room near the oval office about the violence at the capitol before the president's 2:24 p.m. tweet. in future hearings, you'll hear more about exactly what was happening in the white house at the time. here's what some white how staff told the select committee. >> do you know where he went? >> yes. i followed him down the hallway and i followed him to the outer oval corridor, which is the hallway between the oval office halfway and the outer oval section of the oval office. i followed him in to that little corridor hallway. i saw him walk in to outer oval. i maybe took a step in to outer oval and lef: i don't know where he went after that. looked like he was headed to the oval office. >> we talked at that point about how it was bad. you know, the situation was getting out of hand. i know ben williamson and i were conferring. we thought that the president needed to tweet something and tweet something immediately. i think when kayleigh gave us that order of don't say anything to the media, i told her that i thought the president needed to tweet something. then i remember -- then i remember getting a notification on my phone. i was sitting in a room with roma and ben. we all got a notification. we knew it was a tweet from the president. we looked down. it was a tweet about mike pence. >> i believe that i had sent him a text saying that we may want to put out some sort of statement because the situation was getting hairy at the capitol. it was common after i would text him, i would go down and see him in person. >> you went down to speak with mark meadows after this. what was that conversation? >> very brief. i told him the same thing in the text that i can recall. i don't remember anybody that was said between us other than i told him that. to my recollection he immediately got up and left his office. >> our investigation found that immediately after the 2:24 p.m. tweet, the crowd outside the capitol and inside the capitol surged. the crowds inside the capitol were able to overwhelm the law enforcement presence and the vice president was quickly evacuated from his ceremonial senate office to a secure location within the capitol complex. by 2:24 p.m., the secret service had moved vice president pence from the senate chamber to his office across the hall. >> the noise from the rioters became audible. we recognized they got in the building. >> then president trump tweeted, mike pence didn't have the courage what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution. giving states a chance to certified a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certified. u.s.a. demands the truth. >> it was clear by the escalatelation that it was escalating quickly. so when that tweet, the mike pence tweet was sent out, i remember us saying that that was the last thing that needed to be tweeted at that moment. the situation was already bad. so it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> 30 seconds later, rioters inside the capitol opened the east rotunda door just down the hall. just 30 seconds after that, rioters breached the crypt. one floor below the vice president. >> the secret service couldn't keep him safe. >> the secret service rushed mike pence down the stairs. >> they were trying to figure out whether or not they had a clear route to get us to wherever they wanted to move us to. >> we moved down the stairs and through various hallways and tunnels to the secure location. upon arriving there, there was further discussion we were going to leave or stay where we were. >> vice president pence and his team ultimately were led to a secure location where they stayed for the next 4 1/2 hours. barely missing rioters a few feet away. >> approximately 40 feet, that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. mr. jacob, you were there. seeing that for the first time. does it surprise you to see how close the mob was to the evacuation route was? 40 feet is the distance from me to you roughly. >> i could hear the dim of the rioters in the building while we moved. i don't think i was aware that they were as close as that. >> make no mistake about the fact that the vice president's life was in danger. a recent court filing by the department of justice explains that a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi that the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given a chance. this witness whom the fbi refers to as w-1 stated that other members talked that day. w-1 further stated that members of the proud boys said that they would have killed mike pence if given the chance. we understand that congressional leaders and others were evacuated from the capitol complex during the attack. we would like to show you what happened after the vice president was evacuated from the senate. >> the select committee contained never before seen photos from the national archives that show vice president pence sheltering in a secure underground location as rioters overtook the capitol. mike pence is seen looking at a tweet the president just sent, a tweet asking the rioters to leave the capitol. after 4 1/2 hours spent on working to restore order, the vice president turned to the senate floor to continue the certification of electors. >> vice president pence was a focus of the violent attack. mr. jacob, did the vice president leave the capitol complex during the attack? >> he did not. >> can you please explain why he refused to leave the capitol complex? >> when we got down to the secure location, secret service directed us to get in to the cars, which i did. and then i noticed the vice president had not. so i got out of the car that i had gotten into. i understood that the vice president had refused to get in to the car. the head of his secret service detail, tim, had said that i assure you we're not going to drive out of the building without your permission. the vice president said something to the effect of tim, i know you, i trust you but you're not the one behind the wheel. the vice president did not want to take any chance that the world would see the vice president of the united states fleeing the u.s. capitol. he was determined to complete the work that we had set out to do that day, that it was his constitutional duty to see through. the rioters that had breached the capitol would not have the satisfaction of disrupting the proceedings beyond the day on which they were supposed to be completed. >> let me see if i understand this right. you were told to get in the cars and how many of the vice president's staff got in the cars while he did not? >> most of us. >> during our investigation, we received testimony that while the vice president was in a secure location in the capitol complex, he continued the business of government. we understand the vice president reached out to congressional leaders like the acting secretary of defense and others to check on their safety and to address the growing crisis. in addition, the vice president's chief of staff make several calls to government officials. here's mr. short's testimony with representative kevin mccarthy. >> he indicated that he had had some conversation, i don't recall if it was with the president or somebody at the white house. he expressed frustration that not taking the circumstances seriously as i should at that moment. >> so mr. mccarthy indicated he was in touchwith someone at the white house and they were taking it as seriously as they should? you have to answer yes or no. >> yes. >> while the president made several calls to check on the safety of others, it was his own life that was in great danger. did president trump call the vice president to check on his safety? >> he did not. >> how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> >> with frustration. >> mr. jacob, immediately before you and the vice president were evacuated to a secure location within the capitol, you hit send on an e-mail to john eastman explaining why his legal theory about the vice president's role was wrong. you edited your e-mail by stating that "thanks to your bullshit, we're now under siege." we'll take a look at that e-mail. dr. eastman replied, and this is hard to believe, but his reply back to you is the siege is because you and your boss, presumably referring to the vice president of the united states, did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so the american people could see for themselves what happened. mr. jacob, later that day you wrote again to dr. eastman. let's show that e-mail on the screen. in that e-mail you wrote, and i quote, "did you advise the president in your professional judgment the vice president does not have the power to decide things unilaterally?" you said it doesn't appear the president got the memo. dr. eastman replied, he's been so advised. he ends the e-mail "but you know him, once he gets something in his hard, it's hard to get him to change course." when dr. eastman wrote that, did you understand that he in that e-mail to refer to the president of the united states? >> i did. >> and mr. jacob, did you hear from dr. eastman further after the riot had been quelled? if so, what did he ask? >> late that evening after the joint session had been reconvened, the vice president had given the statement to the nation saying that violence was not going to win. freedom wins. and that the people were going to get back to doing their work. later that evening, mr. eastman e-mailed me to point out that in his view the vice president's speech to the nation violated the electoral count act, that the electoral count act was violated because the debate in arizona was not completed in two hours. it couldn't be because there was an intervening riot of several hours and that the speeches, that the majority and minority readers had been allowed to make also violated the electoral count act because they hadn't been counted against the debate time. he implored me now that we have established that electoral count act is not as sanctimonious as you made it out to be, can you implore the vice president can suspend the joint session, send it back to the states. >> we'll show you the text of that e-mail, which dr. eastman wrote at 11:44 p.m. on january 6, so after the attack on the capitol and after law enforcement secured the capitol, he still wrote as you describe "so now the precedent has been set that the electoral count act is not so as previously claimed, i implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation and adjourn nor ten days to allow the legislatures to finish their investigations. so even after the attack on the capitol had been quelled, dr. eastman requested in writing no less that the vice president violate the law by delaying the certification and sending the question back to the states. is that correct, mr. jacob? >> it is. did you share dr. eastman's proposal with vice president pence? >> not right at that time. because the vice president was completing the work that it was his duty to do. but a day or two later, back at the white house, i did show him that final e-mail from mr. eastman. >> what was vice president pence's reaction when you showed him the e-mail where dr. eastman after the attack on the capitol still asked that the vice president delay certification and send it back to the states? >> he said that's rubber room stuff. >> i'm sorry. he said it's rubber room stuff? >> yes, congressman. >> what did you interpret that to me? >> i understood it to mean that after having seen play out what happens when you convince people that there is a decision to be made in the capitol legitimately about who is to be the president and the consequences of that, that he was still pushing us to do what he had been asking us to do the previous two days, that that was certifiably crazy. >> we know the vice president be didn't do what dr. eastman requested because he presided over the completion of the counting of electoral votes later in the evening. >> the number of electors appointed to vice president for president of the united states is 538. within that whole number, a majority is 270. the vice president for president of the united states are as followed. joseph r. biden has received 306 votes. donald j. trump with the state of florida has received 232 votes. the whole number of electors appointed to vote for vice president of the united states is 538. within that whole number, a majority is 270. the votes for vice president of the united states are as follows. kamala d. harris has received 306 votes. michael r. pence of the state of indiana has received 232 votes. the announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the person's elected president and vice president of the united states. each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2021. and shall be entered together with the list of the votes on the journals of the senate and the house of representatives. >> mr. jacob, we heard earlier that you and the vice president and the team started january 6th with a prayer. you faced a lot of danger that day. this is a personal question. but how did your faith guide you january 6th? >> my faith sustained me through it. down in the secure location, i pulled out my bible. read through it. and just took great comfort. daniel 6 is where i went. daniel 6, daniel has become the second in command of babylon, a pagan nation. he completely faithfully serves. he refuses an order from the king that he cannot follow. he does his duty. consistent with hisest to god. i felt that that's what played out that day. >> it spoke to you? >> yes. >> at the end of the day, mark short sent the vice president a text message with a bible verse. here's what he told the select committee. >> at 3:50 a.m. when we finally adjourned and headed our own ways, i remember texting the vice president a passage from second timothy about i fought a good fight, i finished the race and i kept the faith. >> he started his day with a prayer and ended his day with a bible verse. fought the good fight, i finished the race and i kept the faith. white house attorney eric hirschman testified that he received a call frommr. eastman. here's his account of that call. >> the day after eastman -- i don't know why -- he called me. he texted me or called me. wanted to talk with me. he said he couldn't reach others. he started to ask me about something dealing with georgia and preserving something potentially for appeal. i said to him, are you out of your f-ing mind? i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. "orderly transition." i don't want to hear any other f-ing words come out of your mouth orderly transition. repeat those words to me. eventually he said orderly transition. i said good, john. now i'm going to get you the give free legal advice. get a great f-ing criminal defense lawyer. you're going to need it. i hung up on him. >> a few days later, dr. eastman got in touch with rudy guliani. he asked to be on a list of presidential pardons. his list stated "i've decided i should be on the pardon list if that is still in the works." dr. eastman did not receive his presidential pardon. let's see what he did as a result of being deposed by this committee. >> i assert my fifth amendment right. >> did the trump legal team ask you to prepare a memorandum regarding the vice president's role in the counting of electoral votes on january 6? >> yes. >> did you watch the president of the united states saying that the vice president could declare that the vice president had been re-elected? >> fifth. >> dr. eastman, the first sentence of the memo starts off by saying seven states have transmitted duel slates of electors to the president of the senate. is that statement in this memo true? >> fifth. >> president trump authorize you to discuss publicly your j