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"your world" starts right now. >> charles: you're looking live at the white house. president joe biden expected to deliver an update any moment on the situation with russia and ukraine. an invasion could be imminent. the president holding crucial call with nato allies. is there any chance to stop an attack? welcome. i'm charles payne in for neil cavuto, this is "your world." the world is watching what happens next and what the president is about to say. bret baier, jack keane are here. we begin with bret baier anchor of "special report." what do you expect the president to say? >> the president just got off a phone call with nato allies. we're going to likely hear the message that you heard from the president and also the secretary state in the defense conference in munich, standing in solidarity against an invasion. you seeing action in eastern ukraine. you just heard jennifer griffin describe that. the russian separatists, the people loyal to russia envied ukraine, it's believed is a part of this whole mechanism that putin may activate to start a war that makes it looks like he's acting in defense when in reality he's the aggressor. >> charles: president biden has been on television several times. you can't think this is in contrast to what happened with the afghan withdrawal. it important for this administration to get this right. >> it a big issue. it apples and oranges as far as the type of conflict and what you're dealing with. however, you're right. politically i think the lessons of afghanistan and what happened and how it happened, this administration is trying really hard not to do that. they have started the warnings two weeks ago about americans getting out of ukraine. i think you're going to see the president kind of lay it out for the american people that there could be threats to the u.s., specifically on the cyber security front that americans need to be aware of. >> charles: what happens if diplomacy doesn't work. many say it's too late for that and can't work. vladimir putin has his own agenda. so what would the messaging be from there? >> the messaging would be severe economic sanctions, sanctions that struck at russia. now, a lot of experts will tell you that putin probably baked that in the cake. if he makes this move and he does move forward, he's probably not fearing sanctions. that will be the message from president biden and nato allies that they're not going to let this slide. >> charles: on the political side and dovetails with a lot is of course -- the biden administration's policies toward crude oil, the war on fossil fuels, which helped play a role in the sky high prices around the world, which many have said helps pay for this potential invasion. you think there's any pivot on that? >> there's going to be an acknowledgement that people will feel it. if there's a war, we've seen prices spike. it will probably increase. there may be a push for some domestic relief as talked on capitol hill about some gas tax relief on the federal level. don't know if that has a chance of passing. the president would acknowledge the feeling of average americans as they go to the gas pump. >> charles: one of the clear victoried already is a strengthened an more united nato. you mentioned president biden has talked with his counter parts around the world and convened the meetings. is that something that we can take out of this and really continue to push forward with it? >> listen, all of the officials in the biden administration have been talking about how everybody is singing from the same sheet of music. we don't know how germany will deal with the energy from the nord stream pipeline. president biden says this is all coming together. president biden has said if russia invades, nord stream 2 will come to an end. it won't go online. we haven't heard that germans say that. they're saying there's unity in the nato leaders. >> charles: so for us, it's watching the clock, seeing what happens next. pushing diplomacy to the very last minute and continue messaging. how important is it that the president and the white house continue to speak to the american people until we get a clear resolution here? >> he's speaking to the american people, yes. he's also speaking to vladimir putin and any message that comes out of the white house is being transmitted to vladimir putin. that is some of the messaging, the reason why he's going out as much as he is. you know, there's not a lot of back channel here. it is through the allied leaders, the nato leaders that have met with putin, signalling to him that diplomacy can go up to the last minute. but there will be a severe threat, i bet, issued in a few minutes. >> charles: thanks, bret. with me now, general jack keane a four-star general and chairman for the institute of the study of war. that is the big question, general. we keep hearing the administration and others saying don't give up on diplomacy. is there a chance that it might still work? >> well, i think it's pretty remote at this point. the senior government officials are saying that russia is going to attack. the off ramp for diplomacy, the only way that that could happen at this point is because putin decides to do that. people don't see the evidence that that will take place largely because of what he is doing with the disposition and deployment of his forces. we have exquisite intelligence on what is taking place out here. tracking what an army does on a battlefield is easy to do for a technology, based intelligence capability that the united states has. we're tracking that. we're not only taking pictures of it but listening to their operational nets, the text call nets, et cetera. we have a sebs of what they're doing. if they move out of those administrative motor parks that we've been taking satellite photos of and move in to assembly areas where they get gunned and gassed and move in to attack positions, that is telling you something. clearly we're monitoring all of that activity. >> charles: to that point, general, i heard reports that now the manpower, the russian manpower up to 190,000. to put it in perspective, this is the largest assembly of a military force since world war ii. this is major. this is potentially a major military showdown. >> there's no doubt about that. literally warfare has changed, charles, dramatically since world war ii. we had about 157,000 in the normandy invasion. we had 7,000 ships out there with landing craft and 3,000 aircraft. in the 2003 invasion in iraq, we had about 177,000 in the invasion force with air supporting it. what we have here certainly is a ground force somewhere in the neighborhood of 170,000, 180,000 plus. the precision nature of the weapons we're using and the standoff capabilities that they have have dramatically changed since world war ii. so in the preassault, russia will attack with air missiles and rocket artillery. those missiles can travel thousands of miles with extraordinary accuracy landing on a target. those missiles will be cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. there aircraft that have the ability to deliver very accurate fires. while the tanks and other vehicles are similar to what we had in world war ii, even though vehicles, those tank munitions, they can fire thousands of meters. so warfare has charged. it's more lethal than what it has ever been. it's considerably more precise in the use of the weapons. many of them are stand-off weapons themselves. >> charles: that brings us to the ukrainians defend themselves. i heard you applauding the biden administration for actions that they have taken. many thought initially perhaps they were slow to get ukrainian military some defense weapons. how long or could they potentially hold off this advanced russian army that you just described? >> not very long. they are absolutely outmatched. they have significant resolve and will. we saw what happened in afghanistan with an army that lost their resolve and will. they will fight. they have no defense against any of russia's missiles. that extraordinary. they have hardly any defense against all of russia's 500 combat aircraft that they have. they just got recently some stinger shoulder fired air defense systems from the baltics. they wanted these air defense missiles and air defense systems and anti-ship systems years ago from the united states. they certainly wanted it back in march when they -- when the russians came on their border with 70,000 troops. we gave them none of that. we gave them anti-tank weapons and small arms. i understand we're not going to put u.s. troops on the ground to fight with the ukrainians because they're not a nato country. we also said thatter with going to help them defend themselves. that's what the ukrainians want. they don't want our troops on the ground. if that's the mission, we didn't we go all in and give them all of those capabilities that where they -- it would still not be a fair fight but where they could impose some cost on the russians and cause them to think. wait a second here. these casualties will go up significant. we're going to lose aircraft. we have the potential to loose ships, et cetera. putin does not want a lot of casualties. he expects this to go quickly and not take casualties home to the russian people. >> charles: general real quick, this nuclear exercise that was moved up, what is the purpose of that? is this an intimidation tactic? >> pretty much, charles. it's done every year. they're exercising their strategic nuclear forces. he moved it to this date for obvious reasons. beijing olympics closed. its the day after. they will be in the national military command center. i'm not saying the attack begins tomorrow but he's in a perfect place to do it. i don't know why the president of ukraine is even thinking that he would leave the country while we're in this invasion window because if putin invades, the first thing he does is take control of the airspace. that is basic 101. zelensky never would be able to get back in. >> charles: please stand by. great information. i want to come back. general keane is not the only one concerned. nato allies worried ukrainian president zelensky leaving his country this weekend to attend that munich security conference in germany. to jennifer griffin at the pentagon. so jennifer, what are you hearing? >> charles, very grave concern right now that all of the pieces for a large scale invasion are in position. we have commercial satellite imagery. you don't have to have specialized intelligence to know what has been arrayed on ukraine's borders. you have up to 190,000 troops. it's the missile units, the numbers of war planes, fourth and fifth generation war planes. it's all of the tanks put in position and all eyes on the nuclear exercises when putin is there. it's also putin's words themselves. we heard that putin has called up the russian reserves. we were told to look at that as an indication that he would need an occupation force if he went with the invasion. we see him standing next to lukashenko of belarus. there's indication that putin will move military equipment behind the exercises, the so-called exercises that were supposed to end with 30,000 russian troops in belarus, 60 miles from kiev on the border in belarus. we saw that pontoon bridge that was -- that appeared in satellite images on a river that is near the ukraine border. that is the direction that tanks would be moving if they were to cross in to ukraine. these are indicators. what we've seen is disinformation in the donbas region. everyone should be noticing and what is happening in the donbas region. the russian separatest leader for all russians to leave the area. putin will make room for the russians fleeing donbas in to russia, that he will have payments for them, setting up housing for them. this is all part of the disinformation inside russia to make it looks like there's a pretense, a reason to go in to ukraine. you heard president putin talking about genocide, targeting russians in the donbas area. there were some reports of mass graves that we're told were fake in recent days. this uptick in attacks along the line of control is being noted here at the pentagon. the uptick in disinformation, this is all part of laying the ground work for what certainly looks like and if you believe president biden, he said major invasion could come in the coming days. one more point, charles. looking at the week ahead. we heard that sergey lavrov and antony blinken will meet wednesday, february 23, that lavrov accepted blinken's invitation. that day is significant. that is red army day, a very significant day for the russian military. it wouldn't be beyond the russians to conduct an invasion and then to talk at the same time. that is something that they have done in the past. so that does not indicate that no invasion is in the works. also february 22, historically if you look back at 2014 during the revolution, that was a humiliating day for vladimir putin because his puppet that he tried to insert at that time fled to moscow and the ukrainian people rose up and pushed him out. that was a frustrating moment for vladimir putin that hoped that he could control ukraine without having to invade back in 2014. so all of these indicators, all of these dates are very important to vladimir putin. >> charles: to that point, jennifer, in an interview with the economists about the meeting scholz had with vladimir putin, they brought up 2014. i don't know if this is on the negotiating table, but the request for an autonomous region there, could that be something that they're negotiating now in the diplomatic process? >> i don't think so. first of all, that's not -- that's not -- nato has been very clear. president biden has been very clear. antony blinken has been very clear. ukraine is a sovereign territory. it's not for any of the european presidents or prime ministers that made their way to moscow. they've not been cutting deals with vladimir putin. everybody know what happens when you appease a leader like vladimir putin. the kind of negotiations there have been about confidence building measures, weapons inspections. you heard in the papers that have been exchanged between moscow and the state department, there's been -- the principal demands of russia, the maximalist demands, if you will, that nato and georgia never be given nato membership, that data rolls back to the 1997 membership and essentially pulls out of eastern europe. those are not going to be met. that kind of -- we already heard that from the leaders. i heard you talking about the nato and afghanistan and the afghan pull-out. this is a very different situation. if anything you could argue that the u.s., the biden administration and the nato allies learned something from that afghan -- the disastrous afghan withdrawal and the way it was handled. right now what we're seeing and i'm seeing behind the scenes is close coordination with nato allies. the principal allies are very united. the u.k., france, germany, the u.s. and poland, romania and the baltics, this is a very different situation than what we saw last august. >> charles: thanks, jennifer. no one cowl have done that reporting that you just did. we appreciate it. thank you. the u.s. reportedly ramping up efforts to counter disinformation. the u.s. and nato say the troops are not pulling back. fox news contributor dan hoffman with me now. dan, we heard earlier today where -- from the nsa and newberger saying the private sector to be vigilant on possible cyber attacks. there's none yet but all should be vigilant. that describes the risk everyone should be. >> that's right. russia has launched their hybrid war in ukraine. we have fighting in donbas. it's been going on the past eight years. russia also launched a very damaging cyber attack on the ukraine where they hit the minister of defense and the banks there. there's a couple of ramifications here for us. sometimes attacks in ukraine have implications not just for that country but for europe and here in the homeland as well. just like we saw with the attack in 2017. this administration has been right not to rule out the possibility if things escalate beyond control that russia might target the united states with cyber attacks. they have the capability to do that. it important for our intelligence community to detect indications of warning of such an attack and for all of us to be vigilant. >> charles: to that point, apparently there's been a campaign that began no later than january 2020, a joint advisory from the fbi to the national security agency, cyber security and infrastructure security saying that these russians have been able to successfully hack defense contractors and they support contracts for the u.s. department of defense and intelligence communities. you know, it remind me of the old mad magazines with the spy versus spy. do we -- how do we know or do we ever know when we can get in front of these things? feels like they began plotting these sort of events years in advance. feels often that we're catching up. >> it shouldn't coming a a surprise to any of us whose putin is experienced with serving in the kgb and the director of the federal security systems, the internal police. he accustomed to using cyber attacks. he's uses his security systems to interfere in our election, the solar winds attack from the russian foreign intelligence service. he allows hacker to homestead with impunity. they too have targeted us like colonial pipeline. so it's -- this is modern warfare. russia considers us, the united states, its main enemy. not because of any military threat that we pose but what scares putin is the most is democracy. he sees an opportunity to target with us where we're vulnerable, cyber space. >> charles: there was a debate in d.c. over sanctions being proactive, put in to place now abut tip and the oligarchs after the events. the question is what came up is what does cyber security constitute. does that constitute an attack and so far, as far as these sanctions are concerned, didn't meet that threshold. is that a mistake? >> it depend what the attack is. there's an internationally recognized norm of spying where nation state will hack into their adversary's protected systems to collect intelligence. that is one thing. it's another thing when you weaponize that information. for example to target our infrastructure, our power grid. that could be considered an act of war. so that is something that we would have to think about. the biden administration made it clear in contract to republican legislators that would like to pursue preemptive sanctions, the biden is deterring by punishment. if vladimir putin chooses to invade, we're prepared to shut down nord stream 2 and sanctions. the challenge is to understand whether vladimir putin is escalating in order to practice coercive diplomacy and extract maximum concessions from the west. remember, he's given up nothing. all he's done is dialled up the tension. or is he headed to war? right now that's the question i'm quite sure that president biden is asking the intelligence community to plan on. what are putin's intentions, that is the number 1 requirement for any russia watcher. >> charles: earlier in the vehicle, it felled like russia was taking a victory lap. there were indications that they were going to pull back. this is where they started to move the troops. that somehow that they won the battle of wills. what would the off ramp be that vladimir putin could declare himself the winner? >> so you know, i don't think vladimir putin is going to be in any rush to remove his troops. he might talk about it. but that's he's leverage to ensure that he gains as much as possible from whatever negotiations ta