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initiatives on states that could preserve the right to abortion in arizona and florida. >> those are critical and it's interesting, donald trump's line now is states rights. the, he just wants to leave it to the states. well, i've been in the states and it's not a pretty picture there was just a story last year about a 12-year year-old girl and mississippi. let's see, i know you know, you have experience in mississippi. she was raped sexually assaulted in her front yard by a stranger and the her mother couldn't get her to chicago to get an abortion so she started seventh grade this fall with a newborn and that's what states rights means for so
times. sara, let me start with you because you spend time talking to voters in these focus groups and you are part of an effort to put out these billboards. of i won't vote for a convicted felon, which is a new campaign in a bunch of different states. former trump voters saying they won't vote for him. you think these wildly different views get through to voters and to voters does it matter? >> listen, when you are playing that montage of republicans, they were all saying the same thing. i come from a background in republican communications and what they are doing is building their own echo chamber. they are constructing their own narrative. they are going on offense. obviously in a normal, sane world, the facts of a convicted felon president would be very
maybe he spent four years coming after me. i think all ended up with was a $400 tax refund, which is great, i guess i overpaid my taxes. i don't worry about me. i have the resources and the friends and i know how things work. i can do defend myself. i really worry about the people who have less of that than i do the people making the cases, the career civil servants who are prosecutors and judges who are the bedrock of our rule of law. they are the people who will be most at threat former fbi director james comey, the new book is westport, and apparently we have another one to potentially look forward to. thank you for your time tonight thanks for having me, kaitlan up next wisconsin is now joining four other states charging trump, allies and former campaign employees and the fake electors scheme, who has now been indicted. and why now? plus 30 developments and trump's fight to end his gag order here, a new york. now that is trialling descended
alvin campaigned on the fact that he was the best situated to go after trump because he went after his children and the trump organization over 100 times. they made it political but look what happens. we have an election now, a few months away. what do you need to do to went in election when only 100,000 people in five states are gonna decide to pick any money and enthusiasm. there is no doubt that we have a party that is unified and off the charts now because of what happened. and on top of it the record amount of money that that a party is raising. i talked to the present a few days ago. asked my question, other than the headache of this trial that you just as there any right now going well this campaigning he said none.
lot of money being spent. but at the end of the day, robin mendez was not tainted by his father, or at least not nearly enough to cause a defeat. i mean, that's quite a margin right there. it's much, much wider margin than i actually expect that. >> well, and we're both obviously incredibly young, so thank you. for highlighting that tonight is the first republican primaries since donald trump became a convicted felon last thursday. one thing that i have been fascinated by is when nikki haley, who's obviously not necessary anymore, hasn't been for meds, is still get excited i seville portions of the vote in certain states, she's on the ballot in new mexico tonight. what are we seeing there? what are we expecting? yeah. you look if you look right now and returns nikki haley's getting a little bit less than 10% of the vote, right? and some states like maryland, along the seller corridor, she's been doing significantly better outside of the cella corridor, those places i don't have those major cities. she hasn't been doing nearly as well, but i'm so interested in the nikki haley vote because if you look generally speaking, those voters who are casting their ballots for nikki haley, they have less than a 20% favorable rating of donald trump, less than 20% favorable rating of
passed with allies in states like mississippi. but the trick for them really was building strategies on strategies and making sure that no opportunity could go missed and that kind of big picture scope for long-term generational change is a completely different strategy than we have shown how the left operated over the same time period. >> it is really building these cases with legal outcomes in mind. i mean, the 15 week abortion ban of course is a principled fight, but it is not really about that. it is about how can we test the bounds of these laws and ways the supreme court will take them up and issue a ruling that is favorable -- >> it is public policy as litigation strategy. you think about a band that set a number of weeks, based in science or faith or some sense
pushing it beyond election day. they are still things hanging over his head. to your other point the state cases is that they go after trump lawyers. case in wisconsin, two trump lawyers to go after the lawyers even if trip did win, you're looking at states using -- going after people that helped trump to break the law and it will make it difficult for him to find people who want to sign up for that job again. because we have state courts and federal courts. even if doj doesn't do it under trump, there are states that are willing to do things like this. >> the states plow ahead. and as we know the states are not working at the behest of the federal government thank
said it made no difference if trump was found guilty. >> trace: big number, thank you. it's bring in the hills national politics -- politician reported, thank you both were coming on, going to dispose as quickly as i can, power ranking this, of acting get them back up, talking about where they sit now into the electoral votes, trumpet 241, tossup 46. now to the tossup states, now you have them arizona with 11, nevada with six, pennsylvania 19 and wisconsin ten electoral votes. joe biden cannot win it without pennsylvania, there is no way to do the math. he has to take pennsylvania. trump can take pennsylvania and it's over or he needs two other states, maybe three, what you think? >> louck, biden absolutely needs pennsylvania and it sort of reminds me of 2016 when you saw trump go the route that a lot of
race could be very tired in our power rankings show that. trump has a lead on biden showing him currently with 251 projected a look at your college was compared to president biden's 241. it really could come down to a few key states. at a power ranking show there were four tossup states, pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona and nevada. the four considered highly competitive, michigan, minnesota, georgia and north carolina. was a keep a close eye on nebraska in particular districtwide 12, which over the last five president elections has voted democratic and what what republican presidents tomic nebraska is one of two states that award electoral college was through the congressional district method, should also mention it is unclear how trump's recent conviction could influence voters as it is likely to be early to tell, but one hole conducted by news hour, the week prior to the verdicts adjusted to 67 percent of voters
past republicans did not necessarily go in recent history, he went to states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, the blue wall we talked about. to win over these blue-collar voters that had historically or recent history had voted democratic and trump was able to spank them back. now biden has made inroads with those voters in 2020 flipping those states, but only by relatively narrow margins. i think it is going to be difficult and in these states of wardrobe biden because of the issue of the economy. you know that a lot of these states have been hit like many parts of america have been hit relatively hard obviously by the economic condition so it'll be difficult unless the economy improves. >> trace: meantime we look at the physical and mentally fit to factor into this whole thing in the voters safeguard three poles here, fox news abc, episodes, logo because subordinate to the former president up by a bunch,