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BBCNEWS Verified July 2, 2024



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a search for evon hirst, harvey owen, wilf henderson and hugo morris and they were believed to be travelling up from the shrewsbury area —— jevon travelling up from the shrewsbury area ——jevon hirst, harvey owen, wilf henderson and hugo morris. it wilf henderson and hugo morris. it is a very close—knit community, one of the welsh speaking heartland is here, we have seen a response and reaction coming in from the local community. many appeals on facebook and people helping with those searches. in the distance, you can see the police cordon. it is worth noting some of the events when we look back to the early morning and last night, that is when the concern was raised by north wales police about the whereabouts ofjevon hirst, harvey owen, wilf henderson and hugo morris and we were later alerted around lunchtime following further searches that north wales police had found a ford fiesta, that they had been travelling in, and throughout the afternoon police have been coming and going and carrying on with those operations. we understand that the four boys who are from the shrewsbury area had come here over the weekend to enjoy camping, this is a popular thing to do in this part of the country and as north wales police referred to a tragic outcome from what was meant to be a very happy weekend for these four young individuals. when we talk about the community reaction and how people are feeling about this tragic incident, it is worth looking at a statement which has come from the boys former schools in the shrewsbury area and they have described them as being very kind, known by the school community and that thoughts and prayers are with them. shrewsbury college released a statement in the last half an hour to say that the thoughts of the couege to say that the thoughts of the college with the family and friends of the teenagers affected here. when i talk about the location, it is worth saying that in the past few days we have experienced some harsh weather, especially where their phones were pinged yesterday. we have had significant rainfall in the past few days and that has left grave concerns with everyone. north wales police — grave concerns with everyone. north wales police have _ grave concerns with everyone. north wales police have said _ grave concerns with everyone. north wales police have said banned - grave concerns with everyone. north wales police have said banned bodies have been recovered from a car which appears to left the road —— four bodies. this is after a search for jevon hirst, harvey owen, wilf henderson and hugo morris believed to be from the shrewsbury area. you are watching bbc news. the covid inquiry has been taking place. it has just finished inquiry has been taking place. it hasjust finished for inquiry has been taking place. it has just finished for the day. we have heard from professor chris whitty. this afternoon, he said there was a failure to understand about the exponential growth of the virus, that was in response to a question from hugo keith who was questioning the plans of the government to slow down the spread of the transmission of the virus. chris whitty said there was a recognition of the significant threat by ministers but added that before the pandemic many people did not understand the idea of exponential growth. the chief medical officer went on to say he was doing his best to get the government to understand what exponential growth was and how that affected the transmission of the virus. the discussion also touched on outdoor mass gatherings and sporting events which chris whitty said were not initially seen as significant factors in transmitting the virus and you may remember in march 2020 the cheltenham festival was allowed to take place. during questioning this afternoon, chris whitty said the messaging was not as helpful as it could have been looking back on the incident with hindsight. he said the public, seeing mass gatherings, signal to them that the government cannot be that worried and it cannot have been that worried and it cannot have been that good despite the limited impact. and during extensive questioning, he will be giving more evidence at a later date. he said that although the uk had no existing pandemic strategy to deal with covid, he said a plan may not have helped and that possibly even hindered tackling the virus. if there had been a plan and i'm going to cause upset to some of my planning colleagues, but i will do it anyway, a plan that was laid out, this is how the playbook should run, it would almost certainly have been the wrong plan and could have even slowed us down because we have spent ages arguing as to whether this was the right plan, though sometimes it is easier to start with a new plan but what we needed was the building blocks. in my view we had some of the building blocks, intellectually and practically, but we did not have all of them and they were constructed in many cases in quite a rush, really, in february and early march. , ~ , rush, really, in february and early march. , . , ., , rush, really, in february and early march. , . , ., march. chris whitty was also asked about the comparison _ march. chris whitty was also asked about the comparison between - march. chris whitty was also asked about the comparison between the| about the comparison between the government reaction to working with mis government reaction to working with mi5 about potential terror attacks versus the uk health security agency dealing with the health situation of the scale of the pandemic. three departments _ the scale of the pandemic. three departments operating _ the scale of the pandemic. three departments operating across i departments operating across government where government needs to do something and number ten obviously, treasury and cabinet office, and my view is this should have led to them saying, this is no longer your problem, health, this is our problem, this is a huge problem for the system. this will come into the centre because the sensor can then assess this and this is not to say there were not excellent people in the cabinet office and so on already on this, and it was not that there was no interest in this from individuals within cabinet office and so on, but it had not in my view been seized in the way that a similar kind of level of existential threat would have been from another direction. there are a variety of ways that this could be done and is dangerous of me to start doing the job of a cabinet secretary because i'm clearly not, but what i do think we need to do is think through how do we get this very quickly into the centre so that it is able to take the necessary steps.— centre so that it is able to take the necessary steps. hugo keith, the lead counsel— the necessary steps. hugo keith, the lead counsel for _ the necessary steps. hugo keith, the lead counsel for the _ the necessary steps. hugo keith, the lead counsel for the inquiry, - the necessary steps. hugo keith, the lead counsel for the inquiry, asked i lead counsel for the inquiry, asked chris whitty about the burden placed on him and sir patrick vallance to relate vast amounts of information to the government in what he called site meetings. in a to the government in what he called site meetings-— site meetings. in a fast moving pandemic. _ site meetings. in a fast moving pandemic. the _ site meetings. in a fast moving pandemic, the principal- site meetings. in a fast moving pandemic, the principal aim - site meetings. in a fast moving pandemic, the principal aim is| site meetings. in a fast moving i pandemic, the principal aim is to site meetings. in a fast moving - pandemic, the principal aim is to be accurate and fast, and i think that the big advantage we had, and i would like to pay tribute to sir patrick because i think it was extraordinary, having both of us men if one of us had inadvertently relayed information that was misunderstood, and this did happen, there was another person to say, however, i would like to clarify the following points... so that mechanism of having two people who are relatively wide—ranging scientists able to check each other�*s recollection and onward relay, i think that provided some degree of innocence error prevention in the transmission of the information —— some degree of error prevention. there might be better ways you can do it and it would be more convenient to a subsequent inquiry but that was not the principal aim at the time. that was professor sir _ principal aim at the time. that was professor sir chris _ principal aim at the time. that was professor sir chris whitty - principal aim at the time. that was professor sir chris whitty and - principal aim at the time. that was professor sir chris whitty and they | professor sir chris whitty and they will be continuing coverage of the covid inquiry tomorrow and you can read the comments passed on the website today. king charles is hosting his first state visit since his coronation. the president and first lady of south korea have begun a three day trip to the uk — with trade and investment expected to be a key focus. north korea has also said it has launched a spy satellite and south korea has confirmed that. we will follow those developments. our correspondent is outside buckingham palace. bring us up to speed as to what has happened today. it palace. bring us up to speed as to what has happened today.- palace. bring us up to speed as to what has happened today. it has been the red carpet — what has happened today. it has been the red carpet royal _ what has happened today. it has been the red carpet royal roll-out - what has happened today. it has been the red carpet royal roll-out for - the red carpet royal roll—out for the red carpet royal roll—out for the president of south korea and the first lady, and it began this morning just up the road from here at buckingham palace with the official ceremonial welcome from the king and queen. and rishi sunak the prime minister was there as well and was was david cameron in his new role as foreign secretary. he was actually prime minister the last time there was a state visit by a south korean president, ten years ago. there was then a carriage procession to buckingham palace which the prince and princess of wales took part in as well as the king and queen and they had a private lunch inside buckingham palace and we were then told they were shown some items from the royal collection that related to career. more of a poignant afternoon —— korea. the south korean president laid a wreath at the korean war memorial which marks the 70th anniversary of the end of the korean war and they went on to westminster abbey where they laid another wreath at the tomb of the unknown warrior. very much a poignant afternoon for the couple. they then made their way to westminster and they are addressing members of both houses of parliament at westminster but as you mentioned at the start, the main event is here at buckingham palace, later this evening, and there will be a state banquet in honour of the president and first lady. the king and queen will be there and around 170 guests who have been invited for the event which will be white tie and tiara. we do not have the menu yet. a lot of people look out for what the menu will be at a state banquet. we will bring you that when we get it but we have been sold there is a i9th—century dinner service that is being used and that the tables have been laid with military precision, so much so that they are 46 centimetres apart, the plates. hate they are 46 centimetres apart, the lates. ~ ., ., ., they are 46 centimetres apart, the lates.~ ., ., ., , ,, they are 46 centimetres apart, the lates.~ ., ., .,, ,, , plates. we now have a press up followin: plates. we now have a press up following the — plates. we now have a press up following the announcement - plates. we now have a press upl following the announcement that banned bodies have been recovered for the men who were missing. —— four bodies. for the men who were missing. -- four bodies-— four bodies. they travelled with lans to four bodies. they travelled with plans to camp _ four bodies. they travelled with plans to camp in _ four bodies. they travelled with plans to camp in the _ four bodies. they travelled with plans to camp in the area - four bodies. they travelled with plans to camp in the area on . four bodies. they travelled with - plans to camp in the area on sunday. a large search was undertaken over night and that continued into this morning. shortly afterten night and that continued into this morning. shortly after ten this morning. shortly after ten this morning a member of the public contacted us reporting a vehicle having left the road. police officers identified a ford fiesta vehicle upside down, partially submerged in water. tragically, the bodies of four young men were recovered from within the vehicle. the families of the missing men have been informed. our thoughts are with them at this desperate time. while them at this desperate time. while the search is concluded, there is an ongoing inquiry to formally identify those in the vehicle and to understand what has led to this tragic incident. i would like to take the opportunity to publicly thank members of the emergency services, volunteers from the search agencies and members of the public who have supported us with the search. finally, iwould who have supported us with the search. finally, i would ask that the families are afforded privacy at this desperate time. thank you. that was a short — this desperate time. thank you. that was a short statement from north wales police. on the news that four bodies have been recovered from a car which appears to have left the road in north wales, following a search for the missing teenagers jevon hirst, harvey owen, wilf henderson and hugo morris. the superintendent of north wales police said it appears to have been a tragic accident and thoughts are with the family and friends of the four young men at a difficult time, adding it has been an extensive search involving search agencies and volunteers, but sadly not the outcome anyone wanted. we ask the family be afforded the privacy and respect in the investigation is ongoing, the statement says. —— and the investigation is ongoing. a damning report has strongly criticised lancashire police for the way it handled the disappearance of nicola bulley. she went missing while walking her dog. the review said it was avoidable and unnecessary for the police to release sensitive information about her health struggles. her body was found in the river in february several weeks after she vanished. our north of england correspondent has this report. for three weeks nicola bulley�*s picture was everywhere. the 45—year—old mother of two who vanished on a lancashire river bank, and her phone was found on this bench, still connected to a work conference call. her dog was off the lead nearby. police quickly declared she had somehow fallen into the water. they were right but it took three weeks for the river to give up her body. a report today criticised some of the police decision making during the time she was unaccounted for. {liam decision making during the time she was unaccounted for.— was unaccounted for. our thoughts first and foremost _ was unaccounted for. our thoughts first and foremost remain - was unaccounted for. our thoughts first and foremost remain with - first and foremost remain with nicola bulley�*s family and friends at this difficult time. in at this difficult time. in particular a decision to release sensitive personal information about her health. the sensitive personal information about her health. ., , ., her health. the release of her ersonal her health. the release of her personal information - her health. the release of her personal information was - her health. the release of her - personal information was unnecessary and avoidable, and there were opportunities to stop that happening throughout the investigation. it would _ throughout the investigation. it would have been much better had she been declared as a high risk missing person— been declared as a high risk missing person from the outset and indeed there _ person from the outset and indeed there was— person from the outset and indeed there was an early press conference where _ there was an early press conference where it— there was an early press conference where it some misleading information was given— where it some misleading information was given that said there were no issues _ was given that said there were no issues of— was given that said there were no issues of vulnerability around her which _ issues of vulnerability around her which actually probably contributed to a number of the conspiracy theories — to a number of the conspiracy theories about something awful happened if there were no vulne

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