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daybreak to assess the damage after two tornadoes touched down like last night and an historic election in mexico 6:00, a.m. here in washington alive. look at new york city on this monday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us former president donald trump will be sentenced for his crimes on july 11, just days before he said to me, nominated for president at the republican national convention in an interview with fox over the weekend, trump claimed he is just fine with going to jail but in one of the most volatile divided moments in modern history, here's what he said about how his supporters might react i don't know that the public would stand it i don't i'm not sure the public would stand for it with a house arrest or i think i think it'd be tough for the public to take you know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point boyd there's a breaking point. he says, i spoke to democratic congressman adam schiff about those comments over the weekend. here's what he told me this. is clearly donald trump, once again inciting violence, potential violence when he is sentenced, we see this pattern over and over again where donald trump communicates with his base supporters, make you a pretty clear what he wants to see. >> and then his enablers tried to explain it away. this is another dangerous appeal to violence, and it is yet another reason why americans are going to decide they don't want a convicted felon in the oval office. >> all right. our panels here, let's bring in former federal prosecutor, cnn legal analyst elliot williams, scott jennings. he's a cnn senior political commentator and former special assistant to president george bush, w bush and cnn politics, white house reporters stephen collinson is here. >> gentlemen. thank you so much for being with us this morning. stephen collinson, i want to start on the big picture here because i really do want to spend some time with what donald trump had to say about his supporters potentially having a quote, unquote, breaking point. i mean, we are seeing are politics become incredibly just incendiary and i think the would immediately came to my mind and what shift was referencing in part was what donald trump said in the debate back in 2020, which was that his supporters should stand back and standby. let's let's watch that what do you want to call them? give me a name, give me a surprise, just like me to condemn proud process and right stand back and yeah, it's for whereas be advisers probably about 300 frau voice, their marching eastbound. >> and this 400 block of kind of independence actually own the ball towards the united states capitol and we also had a proud boys tell the january 6 committee that membership grew, quote, unquote, exponentially after donald trump made those stand back and standby comments in that debate i set this up this way to show that the words that donald trump uses have consequences in the real world. >> what do you see here? >> i think your rights to bring up back comparison this is what donald trump does. he says things which can be interpreted multiple ways to various audiences. remember, he was quite constrained at fox news interview by the fact he's still under a gag order in the new york case. so he's choosing where his making his inflammatory comments. and in the light of what happened on january the 6th, every time the former president says something like this, you look at it in a different way. having said that, trump made some similar remarks heading into the trial and during the trial, he was complaining there weren't enough people outside and i've supported outside so, you do have to question whether he's still retains that power of mobilization to get his supporters out on the streets are a lot of them are in jail who responded to that call the first time? and they've gone through some of the legal process, aggressive ones and pull at the same time at a time when tensions are so fraught running into this sentencing ahead of the convention, it all it takes is one person to interpret that as a call to action. and that's what's dangerous scott, i also did ask lara trump about this, about what her father-in-law meant when i talked to her on state of the union yesterday, let's just watch what she said well, they're gonna do what they've done from the beginning, which is remain calm and protest at the ballot box on november 5, so she's trying to turn down the temperature on this. what is your read on this? i mean, look, you had you worked for mitch mcconnell for many years. i mean, you know how he feels about what happened on january 6 obviously, he has sort of come around and tried to make his peace with trump at this point 0.2, we don't, we don't have to dig into the details of that so severally. but how big of a risk do you think it is for the president to be out here making comments like this? >> well, i think first of all, people would be pretty angry if they try throw donald trump in jail. i mean, let's be honest. i mean, it's it was a misdemeanor paperwork crime contorted into felonies if they tried to throw him into jail on the eve of his convention, as he's leading joe biden and you can see what people will be angry that having been said, look how they reacted to the trial, he got convicted and they got so mad that they went and donated $200 million online to his campaign or wood or whatever it was. and so nothing has happened. i thought lord trump's comments, there were appropriate, but make no mistake. republicans are very unhappy, very united in their unhappiness but i don't believe there would be violence and riots. i do believe there would be an uptick in political activism. and when we're already seeing that, the wall street journal editorial page is making this argument this morning under the headline, why republicans hate that trump verdict and they quote mitt romney elliott and they say bragg may have won the battle for now but he may have lost the political war. and this is the part of it that i actually thought was particularly interesting democrats think they can put out the trump fire with oxygen. it is political malpractice put out with trump fire with oxygen, meaning by fueling it more and making it worse. >> i mean, it's an interesting same argument. i i don't know if we're going to go back into debating the merits of the case and so on. it's look, it's not a misdemeanor. it was a felony now, the former president will have every opportunity to challenge that on appeal, money is going to even if sentenced to jail time in august right before the crash is not good. going to jail before the convention. that's not going to happen has the right to challenge that. >> you give us a sense of whether you think a jail sentence is appropriate in this case. i the law allows it. >> now, does that does that mean that it happens in most cases like this? probably not. probably. out there are several reasons why i think number one, it doesn't have a criminal history. >> number two most people sentenced for a class e felony in new york, which is what that as are more likely to get probation or community service or something like that. now, it still has a four-year statutory maximum, so you could go to jail for four years per count? probably not going to happen. and moreover his conduct certainly post conviction still mouthing off, still talking could work against him. but i think on balance it's probably not ending up in jail. >> can i offer a counter-argument? the core argument in this case was that he committed campaign finance violations, that were so egregious that the new york state prosecutors were forced to charge him with these 34 felonies. so if you actually believe that it was bad enough to charge them with the felonies which carry the jail time. and you believe that it might have actually overturned the outcome of a presidential election? if that's not something you would put someone in jail for than what is i used to. i like you i used to find and make this argument. i used to think the other negative donald trump in jail but but now that i think it through and i here. >> so what was motivating the case in the first place, they might they might sure. >> the judge still has to be able to justify his sentence like he has to put on the record why he sentencing a particular defendant to a particular managed jail time. right and if it's so far out of line with how other people charged with the same in felony the census they've served. it'll be overturned so this idea that the judge has this broad latitude to be reckless and just throw donald trump in jail. fly wouldn't be reckless though. what do you mean? why would it be reminiscent? you just say earlier why it would be reckless? >> donald i'm trying to put myself in an area combustible political moment. i know, but that's but that's different than applying the law. if you look we're a nation of laws, the people of new york, elected legislature. they put these punishments in and confused how you are the one that is arguing that donald trump's should i get what you're trying to do? >> i think is it exactly. >> i'm trying to i'm trying to put myself in their shoes, which is to understand their motion but evasions and the motivations of bringing this case to me would also motivate possibly someone there to try to throw him in jail. i'm not arguing that any of this is a good idea. i'm just saying i used to think like what you're saying. oh, they're never gonna do it, but now it's time that they're never going to do it. it's the law. doesn't necessarily support a big jail sentence. and even if the judge wants to throw him in a little one man is preceded on the idea that the whole system is out. you are, you are basically saying when you make this argument, well, the system was out to get him. why don't they get them all the way this at the end of the day is a judge who has to make an independent judgment. so i just supported in law and supported right? >> parent judgments supported by every other person who has come before and you like, but it's an unusual situation. it's not unusual if a president is on trial, but it's an unusual situation for local prosecutors to be arguing that we tried to case because we think this guy might have stolen or executory are going to say behind bars, but that doesn't mean the judge is going and i do it. all right. we got to go on donald trump rewriting history. what he claims he never said about hillary clinton will roll that tape plus a key step back for 100 biden just ahead of jury selection. and this 14,000 acres are burning in california, one of the five things you have to see this morning the increase in wildfires is exponential, unpredictable uncontrollable, controllable overwhelming consequences, the need to do something is urgent. >> slightly with we have schreiber and good night on cnn. they say c is believing, but with stearns and foster, that's only part of the story. we handcraft every stearns and foster using the finest materials, like indulgent memory foam and ultra conforming and telecoil for beautiful mattress and indescribable comfort. every single night. during our memorial day sale, bring home incredible comfort with savings up to $800 on select adjustable mattress sets, stearns and foster, what comfort should be? 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>> jennifer rodgers, who seem to think that this is actually potentially a likely conviction in no small part because there does seem to be quite a bit of public evidence around the reality that hunter biden was addicted in 2018. >> some of it from here this was from his audio book. this was in 2018. and again, he filled out this form where he got this gun where he had to testify that he was not addicted to drugs in the year 2018. let's watch i return that fall of 2018 after my most recent relapse in california with the hope of getting clean through a new therapy and reconciling with tally. >> neither happened now, of course, stipulating all addiction is a very difficult thing to battle at the end of the day, this is at the heart of this case. yeah, it's interesting seeing low-level charges that aren't commonly prosecuted up based on intimate, embarrassing, sensitive, and often sexual conduct being brought by a prosecutor and a joke judge, that are of the different party of the person wastes like and that's not donald trump's trial. that's hundred biden's trial. and my my point is, yeah, no, it is likely conviction on account of this particular session of the law and what they have evidence here. just to be clear, i have prosecuted this type of gun possession statute. no, certainly not for addiction mostly for felon in possession, which is another under the same section of the law. now it's likely conviction, i think based on what seems to be public now, everything as we saw in the donald trump trial as well, all depends on how credible the jury finds a witness's how strong they find the evidence. does the defendant testifies? hi, which would probably be a bad idea here as well but publicly again, based on what's in the record and based on how simple these possession statutes are, yeah. i think you'd get a conviction here. >> i'm more worried about joe biden's behavior here. actually, i mean, he was riding bikes with hunter biden yesterday and he is his son. i know any met with ali biden last week, joe biden did. who's a witness and who helped hunter biden? i guess, admittedly get rid of the gun in the trash can. bye the school. i mean there's a lot of talk about respecting the judicial system and i don't try to put my thumb on the scale of the he has been adjacent to an urban i recognize they're related but this man is on trial for a gun charge this week and tax evasion in the future and yet he gets to fly around on air force one hanging out at camp david sleep on the couch at the white house. i mean, what signal what signal does it send to the rest of the government? >> but what would you do for what's your kids got? 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