>> thank you so much for joining us this morning. we'll see you back here next weekend inside politics sunday with might arise. you start that's right now on the attack. trump those red meat to the base. >> we need to guard the vote. we need to stop the steal and consolidate support who's a pep rally environment for president trump while biden courts seniors in raises millions with hollywood stars. pause final count down. >> wherever jordan's got to watch just 11 days until cnn's debate it's about the character of the person leading our country. the decisions and verdict hanging over it all and soccer's tsunami it's like having 104 super bowls and 39 days i washington nervous inside politics, the best reporting from inside the corridors of power starts now good morning. welcome to inside politics sunday on this father's day morning, i'm on erasure donald trump is tried to make inroads are the key part of joe biden's coalition, black voters in detroit in the state that very well could determine the next president and that's where trump was yesterday as he attacked president biden over the issue of crime in his appeal to black voters. but then he went before a far-right group in michigan and use the phrase, stop the steal. january 6 rallying cry and reference to his 2020 effort to overturn biden's victory something that is at the heart of two separate criminal cases. he is now facing meanwhile, biden was at a star-studded affair with hollywood celebrities or harb not harb. george clooney, julia roberts, and barbra streisand as he along with brock obama, raised millions for our campaign that is struggling to break away from trump. and it's mired in neck-and-neck race with polls showing him trailing the presumptive gop nominee in some key battleground states, a lot to get to and we have a great team of reporters on the ground together that has us covered even mechan down the rounded detroit and arlette saenz and los angeles. so let's start with you. i'll let you were in the room for biden's fundraiser last night. take us inside the room. what happened? >> yeah, money will president biden teamed up with his former boss, president barack obama and hollywood star is to really issue some stark warnings about what a second trump presidency could hold the president expressed extreme concern about the prospect that trump could potentially appoint two supreme court justices if the openings open up and he is reelected, the president in this fundraiser said less than a quote, the idea that if he's reelected, he's going to appoint two more flying flags upside down, that being an reference to the flag controversy outside justice alito's home. he then went on to say the supreme court has never been as out of kilter as it is today. i mean, never now this was part of a 35 minute conversation between him president obama, and late night show host jimmy kimmel, obama, a lamented the fact that there has been a normalization of behavior that was once disqualifying for candidates. he specifically pointed to trump's fictions in that criminal hush money trial in new york city and obama told voters to consider the values of the two men saying that biden upholds the values of this country. the first lady said that trump is someone who only cares about himself and not the american people. and now this event brought in 28 million for democratic campaigns it says that that's the biggest fundraiser to date for any democratic president in history. they're hoping to carry some of that momentum as are looking to maintain that cash advantage over trump alright, i'll as size and los angeles, thanks for that. and now on to michigan. after trump made two very different stops in detroit this weekend, one at a black church, the other with a conservative group of mostly young white activists even mechan was there and joins us from detroit. so eva take us through the former president's day oman or the former president continued to echo conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, telling his supporters that he wants his margin of victory to be so large that it should be too big to rig. of course course we know the 2020 election was not rigged, but you hear that reframe being echoed by his supporters, two big during he's also adding something else to his routine. it's really consequential. and he's telling his supporters that they have to plan their vote, whether it's early or by mail on or on election day, they have to make a plan that's really a departure from 20 2020 when he casts doubt on those mechanisms of voting early and voting by mail. and it really indicates that this time around, he's not trying to leave any votes on the table. take a listen. >> the radical left democrats rig the presidential election in 2020 and we're not going to allow them to rig the presidential election 2024. listen, we don't need votes. we got more votes than anybody's ever had we need to watch the vote. we need to guard the vote. we need to stop the steal. >> we want to landslide that is too big to rig, make a plan to vote, either by mail or early in person, or election day trump also spending his time in detroit at historically black church. he thinks that he can make inroads with black voters. this election, mano. >> all right, even my cabinet had tried thanks for that. >> and let's break this all down here in the room with a great panel. >> this morning, cnn's kristen holmes stephen stephen calls and tyler foghat with the new yorker and punch bowls. anna palmer. good morning. do you guys thanks for joining me this father's day morning so, kristen, you cover the trump campaign. you travel all around with trump. he talked to his advisors well, it goes through this decision it makes sense from to reach out to black voters. no question about that, because obviously biden has been struggling to build the coalition that he took them back to the white house in 2020, pick back off that collision. that makes sense, but then talk to this really far-right. grew turning point, usa. >> what does that give him and why, what is behind the strike campaigns thinking? so during what usa is actually going to be very critical to donald trump's campaign. they are a huge part of the ground game they are planning on spending $108 to essentially e the boots on the ground and three of the critical states arizona, michigan, and wisconsin, they are putting people into these communities that they believe are red districts that did not show up to vote in either 2022 or 2020. they have done data research to try and bring out low propensity voters there are essentially making can people the mayor of these communities so that they show up in the polls. so actually donald trump is getting 108 million for that appearance on the one just a week ago because they don't have that same infrastructure on the ground. now, i do want to say one thing about black voters because i think it's really critical. keep talking about donald trump taking away black voters there is not going to be at least no indications gonna be some kind of swell of black voters for donald trump. what they do feel like we have that, they think that president biden doesn't have right now, is that donald trump's base is fully aligned with donald trump. they right now feel like they have the opportunity to go into what is a traditionally democratic block. black voters, latino voters, and try and siphoned away those voters because they don't feel like right now they're worried about getting his base back whereas they feel like president biden is worry is worried about courting his own base. >> but then when he goes, he talks to the base. he says things like the election was stolen, it was rig those are the kind of things that some republican voters who didn't vote for him last time, they may be open to voting from this time are swing voters. they hear that and they say, well, that's why i didn't that's right. >> that is exactly the kind of thing that some of these nikki haley voters, for example, the reason they didn't vote for him the primary is because they were alienated by the extreme nature of trump's coalition. to your point about black voters this is all about margins. if trump, if it's gonna be a very close election in four or five states that will decide if trump can eat away a little bit. biden's traditional democratic margins among black voters in places like philadelphia detroit, milwaukee, atlanta, that can make a big difference. so although no one i think expects the turnout for trump among minority voters to be where the polls said is right now, biden got 92%. i think last time, if trump can get four or 5% more that makes a big difference. but i think there's a long history of republican campaigns and presidential elections over the last 20 years discounting the extent to which minority voters do in the end, end up showing up for democratic before you, before you jump in, i just look at the de point, the exit polls from 2020 vs now, fats news and quinnipiac and cbs news, just recent poll pulling about how trump biden versus trump. i'm black voters down biden is looking at 7% among voters, black voters in the 2020 exit polls. >> well, 15 points in the fox news, quinnipiac, and six points in the cbs news ball. >> i mean, that is a if if you're joe biden, you obviously need to do better. but how much concern is in the biden campaign about that? >> yeah, i'm in what's interesting is that while we've seen trump make gains with non-white non-college educated voters. we've also seen biden make gains with white college-educated voters. and so part of what i've been following is just whether these, the inroads, they've been making with these different cohorts will end up canceling each other out that's interesting point. >> i mean, while he was there trump in detroit last night talking to black voters, he tried to cast biden as though new york times put in their headline this morning as and tight black, this is what, and then when he went on to talk about crime in black neighborhoods as something is a reason why they should not vote for, biden. this is not a trump pitched it to voters yesterday miss most rapid right here. and in african american communities, biden wrote the devastating 1994 crime bill was talking about super predators that was biden. he walks around now talking about the black vote. he's the king of the super predators then he wrote the 1994 crime bill that you talk about so much biden team responding to this saying that trump thinks that he has caught many bad friends, excuses an entire lifetime of what they say, denigrating and disrespecting black americans. >> they wanted to say black voters know better it's interesting, trump's line against biden trying to revive biden's role in the 1995, 1994 crime law. i mean, he's is that effective? and he's also trying to use the fact that he was convicted, you know, now is the been convicted as something we can tie tried to woo black voters to me, the big thing though, is it's it's not that you know, to the earlier point that all of trump's can do so well with black voters, but it means that biden has to pay attention, then even more. when you look at where he is, where he's going, michigan, that is going to be ground zero for whether or not donald trump or joe biden is president. and there's just act, this is just one of those areas where he's going to have to have to defend himself and the numbers you put up there are something that the biden campaign has to take serious. yeah. i didn't tell you were mentioning about the perhaps winning bag voters in other areas, one of which could be seniors, that's one thing that the biden campaign has been focusing on increasingly this past week. and how did senior voters look at him versus younger voters? there's that is bint a distinction. when you look at the choice for president among people 65 and over biden up 51, 45 among those voters. but among younger voters, that is he is not doing as well as he was in the last time. if you look at the on the screen, there, type of margins much tighter. is that the biden democrats don't think that's real, but what explains this? shift of sorts where some more seniors are moving towards biden and younger voters or not. >> i mean, frankly, i think it's that there are a lot of younger voters who think that biden is too old for another term. and i would imagine that people who are closer to biden an age might not fuel as concerned about that. i don't know. maybe that's reductive, but i would guess that there's something to that we add gaza and all the rest and that becomes an issue as well biden's hollywood fundraising last night he pulled in significant amount of money, obviously, the fundraising has been an issue for biden for some time they've been winning for some time. >> now recently, trump has overtaken him, and recent months, as you see by trump and his allies playing at $141 million in may compared to, we don't know what the buying team has raised yet, but they were they were ahead quite a bit up until recently post-conviction, trump has really started to juice is fundraising much different than as you see april we'll see what the latest numbers are. interesting last night they went to this hollywood fundraiser they typically these things are closed doors affair. you don't really hear much about and maybe some reports get out. >> they were happy to bring in show biden next to all these hollywood celebrities and george clooney in the leg, you've covered fundraisers for so many years. >> what do you make up? >> it's interesting. i mean, this comes off the heels when he had a big fundraiser with steven colbert also interesting that barak obama, the former president alongside him i think this is an area where he can show some livelihood. they're there when you look at some of the quotes that came out of there to your point, oftentimes, these are very tight lipped affairs, but you saw that biden was kind of off the cuff making jokes, i think in a way, they're trying to showcase him, not just as and the elderly president and that he can kind of smart that he's cool, right? is there a cool factor with hollywood? i think that biden's hoping that that can rub off on him a little bit. >> certainly wasn't louisiana. i think that there's something about hollywood brings a lot of enthusiasm. we saw that obviously with barack obama, there was an entire movement around how cool, as you said, barak obama was. i i do think we talk about young voters, older voters talked, you mentioned gaza, but i also think like when we're talking about some of these groups that donald trump is trying to siphon voters away from a lot of that is because there's a lack of it, louisiana, it's not just trying to get the voters, it's also trying to depress then from coming out for biden and a lot of that starts with this idea that there's no enthusiasm for president joe biden so doing stuff like this is something where you bring eyes to him in a very fun way, whereas a lot of what people see is him being kind of pointed to as an older precedent. and instead, this gives some that young edge of being in hollywood and that gives republicans opportunity, paint him as out of touch right here. that is well, all right. cnn's presidential debate is almost here. new details about how they're getting ready and what they've agreed to. >> and that's not it should be a big evening. >> they say super bowl numbers. so everyone's going to watch you'll have to be screaming at your television set all night. i assist older chains. >> is cold, calculating, chelating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets and spies, a nuclear game. tonight at ten on cnn cities industry-leading global payment solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries and, help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. >> together, city in the world food programme empower families across the globe bomba makes absurdly comfortable underwear made to move with you, not on you. because their basic things it should. be your best things one purchase equals one donated visit bombers.com, and get 20% off your first order we're trying to save the planet with nuggets because we need the planet and we also need nuggets impossible. >> we're setting the meat problem with more meat from real quality that starts in our factory to real performance in your backyard still tools or as tough and dependable as the people who use them this fathers de, give them the gift that's built for dab right now, save $30 on the fs 56 rc gas-powered driven read you'll still with fast creates striking custom visuals, then inspire pride district, fly that's sides. make your statement from roger to we there yet so many. >> ways to save life ready while it happy. that's 365 by whole foods market kinda riva support your brain health, narrate. janet, hey, edey, no fraser, franck, franck, bread. how are you? 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