we've got this. >> honor. you got this inside politics sunday with manu raju next on cnn on the attack. trump those red meat to the base the gate to. guard the vote. we need to stop the steel and consolidate support was a pep rally environment for president trump. >> while biden courts, seniors in race this is millions with hollywood stars pause final countdown everyone's going to watch just 11 days until cnn's debate. >> it's about the character of the person leading our country. the decisions and verdict hanging over it all and soccer tsunami so like having 104 super bowls and 39 days i washington is nervous inside politics. >> that's reporting from inside the corridors of power starts now good morning. welcome to is that politics sunday on his father? thursday morning. i'm on a roger. donald trump is tried to make inroads with a key part of joe biden's coalition, black voters in detroit in the state that very well could determine the next president. and that's where trump was yesterday, as he attacked president biden over the issue of crime in his appeal to black voters. but then he went before a far-right group in michigan i use the phrase stop the steal a january 6 rallying cry and reference to his 2022 overturned biden's victory. something that is at the heart of two separate criminal cases. he is now facing meanwhile, biden was at a star-studded affair with hollywood celebrities harb nodding, hob nabhan with george clooney, julia roberts, and barbra streisand as he along with brock obama, raised millions for our campaign that is struggling to break away from trump. and it's mired in a neck-and-neck race with polls showing him trailing the presumptive gop nominee in some key battleground states a lot to get to and we have a great team of reporters on the grid. bound together that has us covered even mechan down the ground in detroit and arlette saenz and los angeles. so let's start with you. i'll let you were in the room for biden's fundraiser last night. pick us inside the room. what happened? >> yeah, money will president biden teamed up with his former boss, president barack obama and hollywood star is to really issue some stark warnings about what a second trump presidency could hold. the president expressed extreme concern about the prospect that trump could potentially appoint two in court justices if the openings open up and he is reelected the president in this fundraiser said less than a quote, the idea that if he's reelected, he's going to appoint two more flying flags upside down, that being an reference to the flag controversy outside justice alito's home. he then went on to say the supreme court has never been and as out of kilter as it is today, i mean never now, this was part of a 35 minute conversation between him president obama, and late night show host jimmy kimmel. obama lamented the fact that there has been a normalization of behavior that was once disqualifying for candidates. he specifically pointed to trump's conviction in that criminal hush money trial in new york city and obama told voters to consider the values of the two men saying that biden upholds the values of this country. the first lady said that trump is someone who only cares about himself and not the american people. and this event brought in $28 million for democrats, the campaign say as that's the biggest fundraiser to date for any democratic president in history. they're hoping to carry some of that momentum as are looking to maintain that cash advantage over trump. >> all right, i'll let size in los angeles. thanks for that. and now onto michigan after trump made two very different stops in detroit this weekend one at a black church, the other with a conservative group of mostly young white activists. even mechan was there and joins us from detroit. so eva take us through the former president's de oman are the former president continued to echo conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, telling his supporters that he wants his margin of victory to be so large that it should be too big to rig. >> of course, we know the 2020 election was not rigged, but you hear that reframe being oh, by his supporters to big drink. he's also adding something else to his routine. it's really consequential. and he's telling his supporters that they have to plan their vote, whether it's early or by mail, on or on election day, they have to make a plan that's really a departure from 2020 when he casts doubt on those mechanisms who's a voting early and voting by mail. and it really indicates that this time around he's not trying to leave any votes on the table. take a listen the radical left democrats rig the presidential election in 2020 and we're not going to allow them to rig the presidential election in 2024. >> listen, we don't need votes. we've got more votes than anybody's ever had. >> we need to watch the vote. >> we did to guard the vote we need to stop the steal. we won a landslide that is too big to rick make a plan to vote, either by mail or early in person or on election day trump also spending his time in detroit at historically black church. >> he thinks that he can make inroads with black voters. this election, mano. >> all right, even my cabinet had tried thanks for that. and let's break this all down here in the room with a great panel. this one morning, cnn's kristen holmes. seed and stephen collinson, tyler foghat with the new yorker and punch bowls. anna palmer. good morning to you guys thanks for joining me this father's day morning so kristen, you cover the trump campaign, you travel all around with trump. he talked to his advisors well, it goes through this decision it makes sense from to reach out to black voters. no question about that, because obviously biden has been struggling to build the coalition that he took them back to the white house in 2020, pick back off that collision. that makes sense, but then talk to this really, far-right. grew turning point, usa. >> what does that give him and why, what is behind this campaigns thinking is so turning point usa is actually going to be very critical to donald trump's campaign. >> they are a huge part of the ground game they are planning on spending $108 to essentially be the boots on the ground three of the critical states, arizona, michigan, and wisconsin. they are putting people into these communities that they believe are red districts that did not show up to vote in either 2022 or 2020. they have done data research to try and bring out low propensity voters and they're essentially making people the mayor of these communities. so they, they show up in the polls. so actually donald trump is getting $108 million for that appearance on the one just a week ago because they don't have that same infrastructure on the ground. now, i do want to say one thing about black voters because i think it's really critical we keep talking about donald trump taking away black voters there is not going to be at least no indications gonna be some kind of swell of black voters for donald trump. what they do feel like they have that, they think that president biden doesn't have right now, is that donald trump's base is fully aligned with donald trump. they right now feel like they have the opportunity to go into what is traditionally democratic block black voters, latino voters, and try and siphoned away those voters because they don't feel like right now they're worried about getting his base back whereas they feel like president biden is worry is worried about courting his own base. >> but then when he goes, he talks to the base. he says things like the election was stolen, it was rig those are the kind of things that some republican voters who in vote for him last time, they may be open to voting from this time are swing voters. they hear that and they say, well, that's why i didn't that's right. that is exactly the kind of thing that some of these nikki haley voters, for example, the reason they didn't vote for him the primary is because they were alienated by the extreme nature of trump's coalition. >> to your point about black voters this is all about margins. if trump is going to be very close election in four or five states that will decide if trump can eat away a little bit. biden's traditional democratic margins among black voters in places like philadelphia detroit milwaukee, atlanta, that can make a big difference. so although no one when i think expects the turnout for trump among minority voters to be where the polls said is right now, biden got 92%, i think last time, if trump can get four or 5% more that makes a big difference. but i think there's a long history of republican campaigns and presidential elections over the last 20 years discounting the extent to which minority voters do in the end, end up showing up for democratic before you, before you jump in, i just look at the de point, the exit polls from 2020 vs now, fats news and quinnipiac and cbs news, just recent polling think about how trump biden versus trump on black voters down, biden is looking at 7% among voters, black voters in the 2020 exit polls. >> well, 15 points in the fox news, quinnipiac, and six points in the cbs news poll. >> i mean, that is a if you're joe biden, you obviously do better, but how much concern is in the biden campaign about that? >> yeah, i'm in what's interesting is that while we've seen trump make gains with non-white non-college educated voters. we've also seen biden make gains with white college-educated voters. and so part of what i've been following playing is just whether these, the inroads, they've been making with these different cohorts will end up canceling each other out that's interesting point. >> i mean, and while he was there, trump in detroit last night talking to black voters, he tried to cast biden as though new york times put in their headline this morning as anti black, this is what, and then when he went on to talk talk about crime in black neighborhoods as something is a reason why they should not vote for, biden. this is how trump pitched in to voters yesterday most rapid right here, and african american communities, biden wrote the devastating 1994 crime bill was talking about super predators that was biden. >> he walks around now talking about the black vote. he's the king of the super predators then he wrote the 1994 ghraieb bill that you talk about so much biden team responding to this saying that trump thinks that he has caught many bad friends, excuses an entire lifetime of what they say denigrating and disrespecting black americans. >> they wanted to say black voters know better it's interesting, trump's line against biden, find a risk revive biden's role in the 1995, 1994 crime law. i mean, he's is that effective? and he's also trying to use the fact that he was convicted, you know, now he's been convicted as something that he can tie tried to woo black voters to me, the big thing though, is it'not that, you know, to the earlier point that all of trump's can do so well with black voters, but it means that biden has to pay attention to them even more. when you look at where he is, where he's going, michigan, that is going to be ground zero for whether or not donald trump or joe biden is president. and this just act, this is just one of those areas where he's going to have to to kinda have to defend himself and the numbers you put up there are something that the biden campaign has to take serious. yeah. i didn't tell her you were mentioning about the perhaps winning bag voters in other areas, one of which could be seniors, that's one thing that the biden campaign has been focusing on increasingly, this past week and how did senior voters look at him versus younger? voters? that is, been a distinction when you look at the choice for president on people 65 and over, biden up 51, 45 among those voters. but among younger voters, that is he is not doing as well as he was in the last time. if you look at the on the screen, there, titled margins much tighter is that the biden democrats don't think that's real, but what explains this? shift of sorts where some more seniors are moving towards biden and younger voters or not. >> i mean, frankly, i think it's that there are a lot of younger voters who think that biden is too old for another term. and i would imagine that people who are closer to biden an age might not fuel is concerned about that. i don't know. maybe that's reductive, but i would guess that there's something to that we add gaza and all the rest and that becomes an issue as well. >> biden's hollywood fund fundraising last night he pulled in significant amount of money, obviously, the fundraising has been an issue for biden for some time they've been winning for some time. now recently, trump has overtaken him, and recent months, as you see by trump and his allies pulling get $141 million in may compared to we don't know what the biden team has raised yet, but they were they were ahead quite a bit up until recently. post-conviction, trump has really started to juice is fundraising much different than as you see april we'll see what the latest numbers are. the interesting last night they went to this hollywood fundraiser they, typically these things are closed doors affair. you don't really hear much about and maybe some reports get out. >> they were happy to bring in show biden next to all these hollywood celebrities and george clooney in the leg, you've covered fundraisers for so many years. >> what do you make up? >> it's interesting. i mean, this comes off for the heels when he had a big fundraiser with steven colbert also interesting that barack obama, the former president alongside him, i think this is an area where he can show some livelihood. they're there when you look at some of the quotes that came out of there to your point, oftentimes, these are very tight lipped affairs, but you saw that biden was kind of off the cuff making jokes, i think in a way, they're trying to showcase him, not just as kind of the elderly president, and that he can spark that. he's cool, right? is there a cool factor with hollywood? i think that biden's hoping that that can rub off on him a little bit. certainly within doozy asm, i think that there's something about hollywood brings a lot of enthusiasm. we saw that obviously with barak obama, there was an entire movement around how cool as you said, barak obama was. i thinking we've, talk about young voters, older voters talked, you mentioned gaza, but i also think when we're talking about some of these groups that donald trump is trying to siphon voters away from a lot of that is because there's a lack of it. louisiana, it's not just trying to get the voters. it's also trying to depress them from coming out for biden. and a lot of that starts with this idea that there's no enthusiasm for president joe biden. so doing stuff like this but something where you bring eyes to 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