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candidates strategies are now taking shape and nearly six years after the deadliest anti-semitic attack in us history, the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh breaks ground on a new house of worship and a new future. i was there two witness this emotional moment and speak with families impacted by the horrific shooting. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer. a, you're in the situation room our top story this our president joe biden and former president donald trump are fine tuning their strategies for their potentially game-changing debate here on cnn this thursday, the two men sharing a sibling clear goal to portray their opponent as unfit for office are correspondence are covering both candidates as their epic showdown gets closer and closer. first, let's go to c and then gem j li ji reports on president biden's debate preparations everybody knows he's a liar, but you i just want i want to make sure what it lasting it lasts. >> for instance, four years after this contentious debate between joe biden and donald trump featuring a torrent of insults, name-calling, and interruptions or should that because the question the justice, rational left would you president biden is again preparing to face off against his unpredictable predecessor on the debate stage, cnn is learning that biden is preparing for whatever version of donald trump might show up thursday night, including a potentially disciplined donald trump recreating the experience of going up against trump, a key feature of the mock debates you wanted to find some balance between recreating the experience and not attempting to, if you will, audition for saturday top campaign aides insisting that regardless of whether the ex-president is unhinged or more demure on thursday, there are simply no altering his record. people are going to know that he's a twice-impeached, convicted felon, who has been found to have defamed somebody sexually abused somebody, and gone bankrupt six times. there will always know that ahead of the high-stakes debates set to fold inside cnn's atlanta studio. biden hunkering down with more than a dozen of his top aides at camp david, the campaign hoping to showcase to starkly different visions on a whole host of issues. the economy, democratic institutions, and reproductive rights, decades of progress shatter just because of the last guy got here's the white house. you know what will happen to begin another four or maga republicans row is just the beginning. >> democrats on monday seizing on the two-year anniversary of the supreme court's overturning of roe v. wade in place singh blame squarely at trump's feet, a new biden campaign ad featuring testimonial from one louisiana woman who says she was turned away from two emergency rooms after for a dangerous miscarriage at 11 weeks of pregnancy is now a convicted felon. trump thinks he should not be held accountable for his own criminal actions, but he will let women and doctors be punished vice president kamala harris, who has emerged the administration's leading voice on the issue. >> one of many top democrats blanketing the country today in the case of the stealing of reproductive freedom from the women of america donald trump is guilty well, if it's impossible to predict how president donald trump will behave on thursday, even biden allies would acknowledge that president biden's performance at times can be mixed. there are events and days when he can be really energized and focus and other times when he is less on his game. so there's no question that he had his team right now at camp david are also working on the performance and there certainly hoping that the president biden that everybody saw at his state of the union remarks back in march that that is going to be the version of the president that everyone sees on thursday night i'm jay, i want you to stand by also want to bring in cnn's kristen holmes. >> she's done in florida covering the trump campaign for us. kristen, what about the former president? what is he doing and saying just ahead of this major matchup? well, just to go off of what i'm jay was saying, i think donald trump's own senior advisers would acknowledge that they don't know which donald trump is going to show up on thursday. >> but what they have been doing is trying to hone his messaging, having what they call policies sessions, any senior adviser that you talked to will tell you that they don't use the word preparation or prep when it comes to donald trump and the debate instead, they have these small meetings with senior advisers, with allies, with lawmakers who can shed particular insight into various issues because they've had more than a dozen, they have talked about everything from abortion to immigration, to the economy. what they're really hoping that donald trump will do is focused on those issues like immigration gracian, like the economy, things that he pulls higher than biden on. now, donald trump just moments ago, spoke in an interview talking about what he's doing to prepare, take a listen yeah. are you preparing and preparing by taking questions from you and others if you think about it, bearing by dealing with you get tougher than all of them. now esteem has a number of occasions that because he is taking questions at various events. again, friendly audience or in specific interviews again, generally a friendly interviewer, that this is all part of donald trump getting ready for the debate. but i think again, the thing to reiterate here as well, they are trying to hold on his messaging. they are hoping to have a more measured donald trump up on the stage. i'm one that is more focused. even they don't know who is going to show up on that stage on thursday. all right. kristen holmes and mj lee to both of you. thank you very much. let's get suborn all of this joining us are political experts and i'll start with gloria borger. gloria trump says he's preparing for the cnn debate by doing podcasts, interviews among other things. he's not necessarily doing formal debate preparation. we're told, what do you make of that? well, i think he doesn't think that he needs it. >> what they're doing is they're talking about issues because he does need to brush up on the issues because he spent all his time talking about the 2020 election. but you never know what donald trump is going to show up. i do not believe that there is such a thing as donald trump pivoting into someone else. we've talked about that for years, and that has never occurred. i think the question that i've got is, how will he react to joe biden if joe biden gets under his skin how will he react? because there's no audience there that he can play off of. how will he react if his mic is shut off, will that anger him? i mean, we don't know the answer to those questions, but what we do know is that biden is not going to let up on him. i mean, one of the best points of the first debate of 2020, lots of people say is when biden told donald trump just to shut up because he couldn't get a word in edgewise. so we'll have to see how biden behaves and how trump personally scott jennings is with us as well. scott, i want you and our viewers to listen to what trump has been saying about this upcoming cnn debate. listen to this crooked joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare no, he didn't do he's sleeping now, i say he'll come out all jacked up. right? all jacked should i be tougher, nasty and just say you're the worst president in history or should i be nice and calm? and let him speak? >> scott, what sort of donald trump are you expecting to show up thursday night? >> well, i'm hoping it's the one from the second debate in 2020. i mean, there were two debates. the first one was a disaster, the second one, trump actually did come out. he was measured, he had command to the facts. he won several exchanges with joe biden, had a much better debate, of course, by then, as we all know, the election was basically over. he had cratered in the first debate millions of people at already voted and the thing, the die was cast, as they say so, if i were them, that's what i'd be thinking about. replicate debate number to throw away debate number one because any, any, if you do that again, that's a bad day. >> i actually, allison is with us as well, actually, cnn has learned that biden aides are actually gearing up for what could be. and i'm quoting now, a very disciplined donald trump in their words, how should the president handle that? >> i think president biden has to do his own performance. he cannot go and try and play on donald trump's field that is not a winning strategy. so joe biden needs to come out and talk to the american people while donald trump, i mean scott is hoping that he has a second debate from 2020 i'm i doubt that donald trump can remain disciplined for 90 minutes. he may start out being disciplined, but if joe biden has a game plan of laying out the plans that he has done for the american people. what he will continue to do for the american people if he gets another for years and making the contrast of the person that might show up, whether it's jekyll or high, whatever version of donald trump shows up. making the contrast of you never know what you're going to get with this guy. and we sought for four years under donald trump, we've seen him for the last four years from january 6 to his most recent conviction. and so joe biden can paint that contrast very clearly as long as he he's playing his game debating on his terms and not taking the bait for donald trump gloria, as you know, the biden campaign is signaling they intend to seize on the issue of abortion rights for women is key issue this thursday night, is that what voters want to hear from president biden? >> well, i think voters do want to hear about the issues and abortion it's one of those issues that does very well for joe biden and that's why i think they'll emphasize it. >> you have to talk about everything and i think he'll clearly defend his record. but donald trump, brags about appointing the justices that did away with row, and i don't think joe biden is going to let that go on. mentioned i think it's going to be a key part of this debate. and again, the question i have is how much of this gets under donald trump's skin and how does he react to that? he is not used to being attacked by the people around him nor has he debated, don't forget, he didn't debate during the primaries he hasn't had any practice at debating. so let's see, let's see how he reacts in a real debate with joe biden good point scott howe concerned should republicans be that trump will be on the defensive on issues like abortion, access, and protecting democracy. well, that's the issue said that biden wants to fight the debate on if you're going to have the largest percentage of time on two things, that's what biden would prefer. what trump has to do is pivot to the things that actually sit at the top of the issues list inflation, economy, immigration, that's why joe biden has low approval rating right now. and what trump has to do as pivot out of this infirm ground and pivot to the firm ground. but the only way to do it is with the facts he has to be better. well armed with the facts than biden has proven to be. you remember when he sat down with erin burnett, the president said a lot of false. so it's about inflation in the economy. trump's got to get him backpedaling on that that's the firm granted for donald trump's. so that's what republicans are hoping for a long debate about the economy. >> and i think the question is, will donald trump go back and try and relitigate the 2020 election again? >> yes. >> which is which is something he always does, which is something that his staff does not want on him to do. people have heard enough about that, but can he can he go on for any length of time without talking about a stolen election? >> we shall see our guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. there's breaking news. we're following right now. we just learned that prosecutors are recommending criminal charges against boeing after an investigation of safety lapses standby, we're getting details. also, new details coming in from inside court on a day of key hearings in the classified documents case against donald trump, including whether the judge will put a gag order on the former president beit, like in america, as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled x that's an exclusive pre and post of beat analysis follows cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america, thursday at 7:00 p.m. sandals jamaica sales. >> now odd with race from 199 per person per night. these its sandals.com or call 1800 sandals a us bank. we know how good it feels to reach your milestones but we also know what really goes into getting you there. that's why we introduced cobras, which connects you to a real bank in real time to help you do anything from adding new debit card, or you can save smarter, even create a spending wonderful strep, a one with cobra house. we're always de, from on your road to here because there's nothing as powerful as the power of us rising costs, selective coverage for countless americans. the complex specialty care they need is always felt just out of reach. i'd ever north we give members unrivaled access to the most complex therapies at the best prices, while providing enhanced support, like in-home nursing at noa what israel cost that's wonder, made possible ever north health services thank you reetings happen hi, cutie yeah. that's not good. happened huge things happen happened with three shop early prime day deals at amazon.com, the future is not just going to happen you have to make it and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea. and now becomes the future. a future where you grew a dream into a reality. it's waiting for you. mere minutes away the future is nothing but power and it's all. >> yours. >> the all new godaddy arrow. get your business online in minutes with the power of ai you built something people want. now they want more of it this due credit helps you get the funds you need make sure your inventory is buttoned up is to credit funding. >> what's next i'm pete mundane at reagan national airport this is cnn close captioning is brought to you by tableau. >> watch, pause and record live tv subscription free. start watching tv for free with tableau switching to tableau has really been a money saver without a monthly subscription was amazing quarter today at tableau tv dot com, rekey news, just cutting into the situation room federal prosecutors are now recommending criminal charges against boeing aircraft. >> the recommendation comes after an investigation into safety lapses at the company. cnn's gabe cohen is following the story. first, day. first of all, how significant is this? >> we'll look, well, this could be a huge blow to boeing. and what has already been an extremely turbulent year for the company. my colleague evan perez, has learned that federal prosecutors are recommending that senior officials at the justice department of file criminal charges, bring those charges against boeing for violating an agreement that the two sides reached back in 2021 that had shielded boeing at that point from a criminal charge of conspiracy to commit fraud after those 2737 max jet crashes that you may remember back in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people. now when that deal was reached back in 2021, wolf the justice department agreed not to prosecute boeing over those allegations that it a defrauded the faa, that it had not provided information to federal regulators as long as the company made several changes, they had to overhaul their compliance practices. they have to start a submitting regular reports to the federal government and pay effectively a 2.5 billion fine. but just last month in may, federal prosecutors wrote that boeing had breached those obligations and had allegedly failed to implement what the company said they would a program to prevent and detect violations of the of us fraud laws. so that that type of fraud would not be committed in the future. now, while boeing has set up to this point, that is not true that the company has followed the terms of the deal. but this update today, this is prosecutor saying that they have a case that shows boeing has not followed the deal and that criminal charges should be filed against them. so what does this mean for boeing? well we don't know exactly at this point. we know that the justice department has until july 7 to make a final decision about those charges. and we know the two sides are still talking maybe a deal will be reached. we could see financial penalties brought against boeing. we could also see the federal government bring in a third party to monitor boeing's compliance moving forward and they may even demand that boeing plead guilty in this case and admit some sort of wrongdoing. but we know wolf that a felony fraud charge would be very serious for the company. it could jeopardize business, jeopardize future contracts with frankly, any clients, but especially with the government, especially the department of defense, one of their major client since wolf. so again, we're still awaiting updates ahead of that july 7th, due date for some sort of charges or potentially a deal. so we may see more in the days or at least the next couple of weeks here this is clearly going to be a huge, huge legal battle that's about to unfold. >> what are the families of people killed? on those 737 max jets saying, well, look, well, they've been speaking out for years now. we saw them just last week on capitol hill when boeing ceo was testifying in front of congress, they have said they want boeing prosecuted by the federal government and they want to see a fine levied against boeing in the range of $25 billion or so, whether or not that will happen, we will see, but we know the families have put out a statement or at least lawyers, so them saying that this is a step forward learning this up date today, that potentially a recommendation of criminal charges is on the table, but it won't end there. they certainly want to see that prosecution move forward and they want to see a major major fine for the company gabe cohen, thanks very much for that report. the major breaking news we're following, i want to get some reaction right now for med pearson, he's the executive director. executive director of the foundation for aviation safety, and a boeing whistleblower ed, thanks so much for joining us. we've spoken in the past. first of all, what's your reaction to this breaking news that fell? federal prosecutors have now recommended bringing criminal charges against boeing well, thanks for having me. >> i guess my first reaction is that's encouraging, very encouraging news, but quite honestly, i'm reluctant to get my hopes up right now. >> why is that what was the recommendation? >> right? so the attorney general merrick garland, i guess we'll have the final say i just hope that he really considers what's best for the public. it's not just that these families deserve justice, but if you don't hold boeing accountable, they're going to continue to do their criminal behavior and that's not good for aviation safety. >> if the attorney general and the justice department does, if they do pursue this, what kind of impact would that have on boeing if it's formerly criminally charged and ultimately convicted that's a great question. i think some people will automatically say, oh, well, boeing will not be able to get contracts because they're a felon i think congress would probably run out and do whatever they have to do to pass an exemption to allow that. and i don't really understand where they can pursue prosecution anyhow, because we're really talking about individuals individuals that may

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