how donald trump is ahead of hill in five key swing states, that in a "new york times" poll. biden consider dropping out of the race, such as former obama campaign strategist and white house official david axelrod. >> the issue is not for him is not political it is actual and you can see that in this poll and there's just a lot of concern about the age issue. it just has to ask himself is -- is this the best path? >> the cnn serving as brutal trump and among younger votes and independents, and the former president winning 23% of the black vote and 46% of the latino vote. and this gut punch only a quarter of americans say the 80-year-old biden has stamina and sharpness to serve effectsively as president no way biden is withdrawing from race and polls one year out a cloudy crystal ball, now trump has his own baggage with all of the indictments and civil fraud trial, and somehow helping him among republicans. meeting so riled up they're running more stories warning about the dangers of a second trump term it may be tough for most journalist to accept. but if the election were held today, donald trump would probably win. i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. what if joe biden can within a second term is a hot topic for commentators across the spectrum. >> now there's no denying that in democrats and press want hmm out but if that's what they want they have to do a heck a lot more than hint and nudge. >> it is a wakeup call this is frightening not just for the biden white house and democrats but anybody who fears what return to a trump presidency would mean. he can win. >> there's time to tun it around for the president right ronald reagan was in this position barack obama was in this position. >> now these numbers hold biden won't just lose, he would get blown out, and needless to say the mob, media, they are in a complete state of meltdown and panic. >> some didn't hesitate to tie the democratic gains in the offyear elections to trump or biden. >> it's like donald trump is a political heroin of losing. like do you just -- just attack a shot in 2016 and you just lie back and you just smiling while your party loses in 2017, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23? and you coming back for more in '24. ultimately it comes down to democrats have a potent issue that is abortion because, you know, every since roe v. wade was overturned, pretty much every time the democrats have run on abortion they have won. >> joining us mow to analyze the coverage in florida brian kilmeade of the kilmeade morning show on fox radio and author of the new book teddy and booker t. how two american icons blazed a path for racial equality and in los angeles, leslie marshall radio talk show host fox news contributor brian do you agree that much of the media are nervous anxious, depressed over president biden's awful poll numbers and -- kind of hoping he'll drop out? >> wow. jonathon call looked like he was going to break in tears over the fear that donald trump could get elected when he should be known he added two wings to the house because of the book sales and last presidency. so i do think it is pretty extraordinary to blame donald trump for the offyear elections anything but great for the elections listen midterms absolutely he hand picks candidates howie and others that were way out there that traditional republicans probably would have done not just david axelrod but saying they think a younger fresher candidate would fare much better leslie. >> all due respect to dade and others that are saying that, my colleagues that would not be wise just because politics is a numbers game and who would be on the ticket? no drpght to our vice president, but she would be on the ticket she would be number one and number two on ticket and numbers are worse than president joe biden i want people want my governor i would like someday for gavin newsom in california to run but he's said that's not going to happen and step on or over joe biden kamala harris so i think that's unwise especially at this point in the game. with respect to the poll numbers, the numbers that i look at more i'm a democrat i'm not freaking out. i don't have any razor blades anywhere around me guys look the reason is numbers that i'm looking at are the polling, exit polling numbers. and what polls are not predicting is the turnout of democrats, what they're what they are not predicting as how important issues are. and the disapproval ratings for joe but are not trickling down not only in the midterms but next tuesday. my production those are the numbers. quickly jump in here i want to play some sound, peter doocy had a chance to ask the president about these polls. >> white do you think it is your trailing trump all the swing state polls? staples? >> you don't read the polls there are 10 polls eight of them i'm beating in those states eight of them. through two. cnn and "new york times" check it out. we checked out national polls those are three weight races and some the two candidates are tied. so brian you started to touch on this earlier. "new york times" washington post a flood of stories about what trump do the second term pretty single after his enemies, higher eight loyalists instead of traditional conservatives. crapped out on immigration in both the insurrection act. what is this flurry of stories say to you? >> that we have got to scare people into not voting for him. i will give you an example. you brought up don't panic it is still early what ever i understand where you're coming from he is going to be the nominee. the only thing that's different about this election, there's a lot of things the one thing that is different is that many people are convinced, me included he cannot do the job anymore did you see him try to lay a wreath yesterday for the unknown soldier? he puts the wreath up and does not know where to go. he does not know how to leave a stage he could not even say a complete sentence to peter doocy. he does not give interviews. he has to go out and win it. if you are away right or middle you have to build to articulate what you're doing. people don't think he's making the decisions they want and unelected officials behind closed doors making the decisions. the guy we see in front of us is not even the guy that got elected in 2020. and that is what i think tim ryan and van jones are saying. not right wing extremists. they are saying this guy cannot do the job. work out your hair's situation but there's other talents on the left. that is what they are saying. but certainly present abided did not do very interviews he didn't want recently of 60 minutes. less lately president has been hurt by the economy, losing a chunk of the black vote according to these polls but again the overriding issue and we have talked about this seems to be bothering a lot of democrats is his age. >> but this week i sell repeatedly video clip after a video clip of donald trump talking about the current president who is not the current president barack obama. we want to split these things apart at ho it honestly in defef both of them they are human it. i went to the supermarket the other day i could not remember what dhec i was getting and i'm not in my 70s yet and may feel or look at sunday's. [laughter] yes, yes because you cannot compare yourself to joe biden there is no way. i'm donald trump keep saying that he believes obama is pulling the strings. i talked him off camera about that i talk to him on the radio about that and i corrected him on the radio interview please go back and listen i said you mean joe biden? no he is convinced barack obama's run the country. that's what he says that he wants you to think it. >> o'brien come on come on. that is good, that is good you should be has a manager his campaign manager that's a really good spin on it. [laughter] that's a good spin on it because i'm going to jump in guys. what's the bottom line is democrats are going to go left republicans are going to vote right that's what the number shall come down to five states and independence in those five states in the past few election cycles. lexi is losing in all of them. >> that is what sparks the concern. so brian, the republicans talk about this week's election keep losing and losing on the abortion-rights question most notably in ohio this week. but the pundits are quick to joe biden. i think you are saying trump did not have much to do with the recent election i don't think biden did either. >> yes. but leslie, to your point of the abortion issue will be a deciding factor and republicans from the smallest county seats to the highest seat at the white house have to learn how to message it sincerely. and they have not done that yet. i don't think mcdaniel these consultants coming from the outside, they get a lot of money and they go for advice you cannot blame her for that ea easier. they have to go out and say listen is going to be 15 weeks this is where europe is at this is where most of america is at that is where we are comfortable with a look at what marco rubio said he said i am pro-life but florida isn't so that there are 15 weeks i am going to be at 15 weeks he wins going away in his election. unless they get that right it does not matter. i was also struck by one of the things in the polls that says 51% of the people say there is no way they will vote for joe biden and a 48% says they will never vote for donald trump. that little more play believe it or not actually could tip it to trump. the wild-card factor is a third party. >> if they stick with that they may change their mind to some of them. leslie, abortion could boost a democratic turnout next year. but it will be several issues the whole election will not be about abortion to be about the economy, it joe biden's handling of the two wars. i am not sure this helps the president's candidacy at all. >> at the end of the day, if you right now were very angry with joe biden because you do not agree with him a middle east policy you are not pro israel, your alternative is donald trump. you are not going to flip that switch for him in the same can be said for those who are unhappy with donald trump. even if they republicans voted for them at once maybe twice but they do not want to go back, they want to go forward. they're going to vote for joe biden. it abortion is a bigger issue it's just not ohio look at it did in virginia the governor there is pretty much powerless right now. >> i've got to get a break i know you have more to say. we come back pro hamas a journalist take their protest inside the "new york times." ♪ there's something going around the gordon home. good thing gertrude found delsym. now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together. howard: after the "new york times" ran an editorial posing an israeli cease-fire more than 100 outside journalist took over the papers lobby really off the names of palestinians and killed in gaza and names of editorial board members and protesters accusing the paper of complicity and laundering genocide. declaring there's blood on the hands of the "new york times" and torah board. brian, what is it say when self prescribed journalists are so dedicated to the hamas because theythe they storm near times b? >> it is nuts. didn't they plow this and cede this field when they came over to bully barry when she was a cencenter as the "new york time" she said i'm not welcome at this room for other opinions. didn't the "new york times" also cede this field when they had a tom cotton column that brought up a conservative point of view? all of the sudden someone gets fired they have up meltdown and need a mental health day. that's not the tolerance of different ideas but they come up with a different idea the street they mobilized turn on them they must be saying oh wow, this reminds me and they must feel a little bit like bill they look around the democratic party many are which the backbone and subscribers to the "new york times" and says what have we radicalized? these radicals have turned on us. i am not for that but thousand organized movement through their lobby that might have had activism from inside. howard: @leslie what you think about the language the "new york times" has blood on its hands? >> it certainly an opinion i do not agree with that. i do not agree anybody actually in the united states has a blood on their hands. it is certainly just there in the middle east. israel, hamas, the palestinians. but i do want to say something to what you just said how eight, a couple of things. one, journalists need to be their job they have a right to the first amendment to express free speech and that "new york times" to brian's point i would agree should have every opinion every media outlet. it does not make them pro- hamas. thatit does not make people pro- palestinian or pro- like myself just wanting peace for the children are want a cease-fire. it does not make them pro- hamas. it does not make them anti- somatic. i can't stand a self-loathing jew or anti- somatic because you want a cease-fire or you with the children to stop being hurt or killed. but to say that the "new york times" has blood on their hands? >> a little short on the time let's run to these nbc news headline man dies after hitting head during israel and palestinian rallies officials say. what happened was 69-year-old paul kesler his death was ruled a homicide by the medical examiner caused by blunt force injuries to his head. this is outside l.a. at a palestinian protester. so brian, hitting head is that described the situation? >> you know. and within the column it says a blunt force to the head. it was from the bull horn had killed him and that came from the coroner's office. it was not that he tripped and fell and banged the back of his head. he hit the ground because he was struck in the head. i am all for being measured but at this point my jewish man gets killed in a palestinian jewish in protest, why are they so measured and dare i say inaccurate with the headline? went on the other side it was a palestinian hurt a hamas sympathizer is hurt it would have been -- sadly to say it would not been that measured. howard: leslie, the "washington post" headline. gaza health ministry death toll in gaza surpasses 10,000 after four weeks of work. who runs the gaza health ministry? >> hamas. however you have to look to other sources if you do your due diligence defense children internationally verify these numbers. the dionysian's office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs, the world health organization, rescue organizations like the white helmets. all of these are putting out numbers as well but i would take those numbers being a talkshow host that's where i get my numbers from progress i have more confidence that i do in hamas. ias which sometimes inflates the casualty figures. bright i want to ask a quick question about your book teddy roosevelt invites booker t. washington to dinner at the white house. there is all of this uproar at memphis news quote the greatest outrage which has ever been perpetrated by any citizen in the united states, what does that tell us about that. >> appeared at that time there is segregation, there is jim crow, there were poll taxes and lynchings. but he is happy about it. i am not ducking it. i wanted to outline how two people in that time as a polarized and wrong as some portions of the south were said we could see a better time for america. we could be better examples for it. look how much progress we have made it since i also put on the special on fox nation john mccain references this dinner but think about america there's outrage to this procedure's black man to dinner and now we have african-american black man who is hosting that dinner. i think people really need to see how many people sacrifice to make us the most successful multicultural country in the world. howard: the book is at teddy and booker t. appreciate having you on brian kilmeade, leslie marshall thank you very much for joining us. israel is denying they targeted gaza's largest hospital and will israel occupy gaza after the war? 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