mark: hello, america, mark levin, and this is "life, liberty and levin". we have two fantastic guests, the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, and our friend alan dershowitz. before i get to the president, you know, i've been -- can to the prime minister, i've been thinking about this, how many armies on the face of the earth have been trained not to kill civil januaries? if as a matter of fact -- civilians? as a matter of fact, has our army been trained not to kill civilians? i'm just curious, because i don't know how many died in afghanistan, our media wasn't keeping track of that, in the korean war, the vietnam war, i just don't know. i don't think churchill gave a damn about how many civilian died when he was trying to defend his country, i know harry truman didn't give a damn. so it's very strange. we have a country in israel that is the only country with a military, to my knowledge, that is trained not to kill civilians, and they're up against an enemy that is trained to kill civilians, both their own palestinianings and israelis. so i hit here as an a on sevenner of the corrupt, pathetic media, question right out of the box, prime minister, what are you going to do about the civilians? mr. prime minister, i want to welcome you to the program, and i want to ask you a different question, how is the war progressing, and is israel winning? >> the war is progressing well, and we're going to win. we have no other choice. it's going well because we put our forces on the ground, and coincidentally, actually there are fewer civilian casualties because we call them civilian with population in gaza -- called on the population to leave. hamas tried to stop them at gunpoint, actually using gunfire to prevent them from e reeving the zones of battle. but they left. the number of civilians is actually, those that are killed is going down. the number of terrorists is going up. we're destroying their infrastructure, their command posts, their rockets, their underground tunnels, and we're going to win because with we have to win. this is a battle of the forces of civilization against the forces of barbarism. and if barbarism wins in our part of the world, europe will be next and america will be next. because the axis of terror, of iran, hamas, hezbollah, the houthiss and their other minions will spread their bar barbarism to the entire world. israel fighting our war, but it's also fighting america's war, it's fighting your war. and our victory will be your victory. mark: mr. prime minister, people have very short memories. we went to war in afghanistan to fight the same islamist ideology after our people were slaughtered in new york in the twin towers, and we've been attacked scores of times before that by the same us louisiana lammist -- islamist ideology. maybe carrying a different flag, it doesn't much matter, trying to create these the caliphates all over the world. they're not really interested in having one state, that's obvious with hamas. you turned over the gaza strip to the palestinians, and they turned it into a terror state. obviously, you know what's going on in in judea and sumeria now, how that area's being increasingly terrorized by the same ideology and the same individual individuals. i just wonder sometimes when you're by yourself and thinking about this, you have to talk to the press because the battle of ideas and the battle of the press goes on and on and on, and israel's been through this many times. at the very beginning, israel is supported, and then so much of the world turns on israel. sometimes do you say to yourself, what the hell is going on in this world? it's turned inside out. don't the western democracies give a damn about what's taking place here? >> i think a lot of people do, and in america there's a strong backing of public opinion that a basically understands that israel is the forces of good against the force of evil. and i saw this massive rally a few days ago washington from jews and non-jews standing together shoulder to shoulder because they understand that. but, yes, there is that certain, that frustration because we're attacked by hamas. they storm into our community, rape and murder women, burn babies, behead people, take hostages, babies, children, elderly, murder children in front of their parents, parents in front of their children, no wonder the german chancellor came here and he said these are the new nazis. so what did you do with the original nazis? hitler invades europe, commits the worst savagery, does the holocaust on the jews, the allies fight back, they invade normandy. they go through the cities of france and the cities of germany, the german army places itself in the cities in civilian neighborhoods, in hospitals and schools everywhere and, of course, the allies fight. they target the german army, but there are also a civilian casualties, a lot of them. now, you know, what would have happened to history if at that point public opinion would say in the democracy, oh, god, what are you doing to the nazis? what are you doing to the german population? that's not what they asked. they said what you said, how is the war progressing. history would have been catastrophic if we didn't keep our eye focused on who's to blame. who is to blame? who is to blame for these civilian casualties? the allies or the nazis? and now many, in many quarters and democracies they're saying israel is to blame, the allies the are to blame, not the ax sit of terror, but the -- ax sit of terror, but thal -- the allies for peace. against request these barbarians who want to take us back to the middle age as. this is a sign of moral bankruptcy and moral obfuscation, a sign of deep confusion at best, and we have to get the simple things straight. israel is keeping, doing everything in its power the keep civilians out of harm's way. hamas is doing everything in its power to keep civilians in harm's way. israel provides humanitarian safe zones, humanitarian borders, hamas if prevent ises gaza civilians from leaving the war zones. is so it's not hamas, it's not israel, but hamas that is responsible for what it's doing. it's using the civilian population as human shields. it is deliberately targeting and murdering civilians and deliberately hiding behind civilians. that's e a double war crime. they're the ones responsible. they should be held blame, they should be held accountable, not israel. israel is fighting the just war, the right war of the democracy against the barbarians. mark: you've spent most of your life as prime minister, as a cabinet member, as a party leader, as a scholar warning about the terrorists, warning about the ideology, warning about iran. it came to really a pinnacle when you came to the united states during the obama administration and speck to the entire congress -- spoke to the entire congress, the entire world, every american. and you said iran must not get a nuclear weapon with. now, it seems to me if you're concerned about a citizens, innocent people, about babies in hospitals, you're concerned about all those things -- which we are -- then you will do everything humanly possible to insure that iran does not get a nuclear weapon. so my question to you, sir, is this: to the best of your with knowledge, what exactly is being done to try and prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon, to your knowledge? >> i'm not going to say everything in my knowledge, but i can say this much,9 that the jury is still the out. i mean, if we see what the iranian axis is doing without nuclear weapons, the horrors person if traited on that -- perpetrated on october 7th, the watch on the terrorism that it's practicing not only in the middle east, but on every continent end ebb colluding north and south america, the terrible aggression that is perpetrated in every single zone in the world and especially in our region, that's what it's doing without nuclear weapons. imagine what would happen if iran had nuclear weapons and all its minions, all its proxies would know that they have a nuclear umbrella. it would be a different world, and the entire world would be in danger. and, of course, if iran had nuclear weapons, be able to use in the only terrorist proxies, they'd be able the wield on you the threat of the greatest terror of them all, nuclear terror. they'd have ballistic missiles that could reach any city in the united states, and they'll hold you hostage. and, therefore, the battle now that we're waging is a battle against iran's ax a sit of -- axis of terror. and everybody wants to see who's going to win. if israel wins, we all win. and if israel doesn't win, then the ax a access emerges victorious. and that the imperils our entire future. so this is not just israel's war, it's your war. and we have to win this war. just as we have the win the battle against the nazis. we had the -- to win the battle against isis, we had to win the battle against al-qaeda. everybody understood. we cannot let this be obfuscated by hamas propaganda. we have to keep you are moral clarity and our strategic clarity. we have to understand that we're fighting for our future. by the way, the future of the palestinians as well as israelis, the future of the middle east, the future of the moderate arab states, the future of the expansion of the historic abraham accords, the future of peace with saudi arabia. that can all be achieved, but it has one necessary prerequisite, victory, total victory over hamas. we destroy hamas, we assure the peace. we destroy hamas, we assure security. we destroy hamas, we assure a better future for all. mark: and honestly, this is what statesmen and real leaders, especially wartime, believe. lincoln, churchill, washington, many of your greatest leaders in the past in israel and so forth. when you're at war in a war like this, this is a war to the end. there's a winner and there's a loser. and i'm just concerned that people don't understand that. mr. prime minister, when we get back, my question to you is this: do you think it's helping the situation in the middle east when iran is able to receive or to acquire tens of billions of dollars? i don't care if it's direct, i don't care if it's a waiver, i don't care if it's released, i don't care if it's in their mattress. my question to you is, are these steps that will further peace or further the iranian war machine? we'll be right back. ♪ and smooths dry skin. with 7 moisturizers & 3 vitamins. and... new gold bond healing sensitive. clinically shown to heal & moisturize dry, sensitive skin. gold bond. this was no bear. it was like a bearsquatch! dad. what's a bearsquatch? it's a cross between a bear and a sass... it's made up. he's usually sleeping. he'll never sleep again. ♪ ♪ ♪ mark: welcome back, america. i'm here with prime minister ben. min netanyahu of us legal. mr. prime minister, at the end of the last segment, my question was all this money flown into iran, tens of billions of dollars, lifting waivers, oil money and so forth and so on, how is this advancing the cause of peace, or is it advancing a different cause in. >> well, certainly not advancing the cause of peace, and my position is any money that goes to iran advances iran's war machine. look what iran is doing in the region. every where it's implanted itself, everywhere it controls these proxies they've brought misery and blood with shed to those people whether it's in lebanon which is collapsing. i mean, the whole economy there is collapsing under hezbollah, iran's minions. whether it's in yemen, i mean, they face one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the 2 21st century. in gaza, look at what -- 93% of hamas' military budget comes from iran, and look what that produces. everywhere they go, misery, bloodshed, poverty. and and so that's what the iranian axis brings, and it brings manager else, it brings a crazed theology. it's literally, i think, a theology that is completely mad. i mean, the idea is to bring back modernity, roll back the enlightenment, roll back liberty as we know it, bring it back to these theological regimes that deny the rights of women, gays, minority, human beings. and then export slaughter, revolution, bloodshed, savagery. iran applauded the savagery, the savagery of hamas. iran applauds that same savagery when it's committed elsewhere. so who do you want to win? if who do you want to see winning? if they win, this spreads. and, by the way, the thing about iran's proxy including hamas is that unlike the previous war criminals like hitler and stalin who sought to hide their crimes, they send their murderers with goprocameras, and they broadcast it to the world -- gopro. so this is infectious. it's not merely that they want to win here, but they want the win elsewhere by fomenting, as eye -- isis did, this crazed, murderous glee of murdering human beings, beheading human beings, burning human beings, massacring human beings. that's what iran stands for. now, the battle right now is waged in one place, on israel's border, the hamas if caliphate. and just as the entire world understood when they saw even lesser harms of isis, they understood we can't let these barbarians win, and everybody united. they sent armies overseas to defeat them. we're not asking anyone to send armies. we're asking you the support our just battle which is your battle just as the battle for eye access was your battle. -- eye isis -- isis. just as the battle against bin laden was your battle. now, you didn't ask for a ceasefire with bin laden, right? remember, we hadding, mark, we had 20 9/11s are proportion nately, now, imagine that, okay? you have 50,000 americans murdered on one day? 10,000 the americans held hostage including babies, children, women, elderly? i mean, who takes a baby? a 10-month-old baby hostage? what kind of monsters are you, okay? you didn't have that. what do you think america would to do? if it did, it went to war. to destroy al-qaeda. it didn't say, well, let's have a ceasefire with bin laden. we're doing what we have to do, but we're doing it alone. but for everyone else. we're doing it for you are sake, but we're also doing it for your sake, and we have to win otherwise this disease will spread, and it will consume civilization. and there are moments in the history of the world where the forces of darkness face face the forces of light. and the forces of light must win, otherwise you could have an a age of darkness. but for that, you need moral clarity and resolve, resolve and courage. i see a lot of that in the american people, midwest of the american people -- most of the american people understand that. some don't and some are misguided, and some are woe efully misif guided by a misguided media that broadcasts, essentially, hamas -- and what are they saying? they're saying blame israel, in the hamas. blame the allies, not the new nazis. blame america, in this case, and not bin laden for the casualty, civilian casualties that you sustained in iraq and afghanistan. that's not what you should do. we need that moral clarity, we knead that certainty of purpose, we need victory. mark let's talk about civilians again, this time in iran. the people in iran hate their government. the government of iran is an authoritarian, islamist government that slaughters and tortures its own people. it rapes their girls, puts them in prison if they don't comply with the fundamentalist viewpoint. do you happen to know if anybody's keeping count about how many civilians have been murdered, imprisonedded, raped, tortured or disappeared in iran? >> untold numbers. by the way, they don't always hide it. they execute their civilians from cranes in the cities. people are suffocating as they are the hung from cranes. and you saw the iranian people fighting against, protesting against this tyrannical government, and they were shot in the streets, i mean, that's what you see. that young woman executed over a question of a head dress, you know? if that's absurd. that's what they are. and by the way, you say iran, hamas executes people the same way. they shoot them in the back of the head. you dare say the word against hamas, and you're immediately executed. that's what happens in gaza too. but a lot of people in gaza, and that's information that i'm getting right now, are saying what did these people bring to us? you know, people say, well, what happens after the victory? if you create another generation that will learn to hate. is that what happened in germany? after you defeated the nazis? is that what happened in japan after you defeated the imperial forces there? that's not what happened. people realize there's a potential for a different future. there's a different prospect out there, a different life. so the defeat of hamas creates a different opportunity, and rolling backup iran's aggression aa sures peace. showing resolve and strength against iran doesn't bring war closer, it brings peace closer. it brings peace through strength, peace through resolve. that's how you get peace. mark: spot on. we'll be right back. ♪ rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. but i'm protected with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd, and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective in preventing lower respiratory disease from rsv and over 94% effective in those with these health conditions. 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(♪) ♪ if. jon: welcome to "fox news live," i'm jon scott in new york. tributes pouring in from around the world honoring former first lady rosalynn carter who died peacefully in herrer georgia home today surrounded by loved ones including former president jimmy carter to whom she was married for 77 years. mrs. carter is being remembered not only for her dedication to her husband during his four years in the white house, but also for decades of human town work after washington. humanitarian work. she is survived by four children and nearly two dozen grandchildren and great grandchildren. rosalynn carter was 96. president biden and first lady jill biden are in virginia tonight serving turkey dinner to some 400 naval personnel in norfolk. at a one point mr. biden was asked about the hostages in gaza. he replied he wants to insure their freedom before he comments further on the matter. i'm jon scott, now back to "life, liberty and levin". ♪ mark: welcome back, america. we're here with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. two kind of related questions, mr. president. number -- mr. prime minister. number one, the cultural9 rot in the west didn't start today particularly when it comes the evil versus good and, furthermore, i'd be with curious about your thoughts about what has been taking place at this main hospital where hamas if is dug in and your folks are really trying to do the right thing. can you answer a those questions? >> yeah. in 1933 shortly after hitler came to power, the oxford student union in britain had a debate, and 2 to 1 they had a resolution that that they would not under any circumstances fight for king and country. and, you know, you know what that did. they had to change their way because they understood they wouldn't have a king and they wouldn't have a country, and they wouldn't have an oxford if they didn't fight. so they the ended up fighting on the battlefields and fighting well until nazis almost destroyed -- it's the same thing here. i mean, this is a moral indictment of higher education in the west that you h