with judge jeanine pirro "the five". hunter biden is playing the victim in a new interview. as we learn bombshell new details about his second indictment. the first son is facing nine new criminal charges for allegedly not paying more than, not paying for more than $1.4 million in taxes but also blowing that cash on his lavish lifestyle. quote. if convict hunter could spent 17 years in prison but never mind his corruption, hunter biden telling in an interview that republicans are only concerned about him as a way to destroy his fathers presidency. >> and their most illegitimate way rational way they're trying to destroy a presidency so it's not about me and their most base way what they're trying to do is they're trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle. >> hunter's southern blaming the republicans who thinks the political pressure from g.o.p. lawmakers played a role in beefrg up the charges. >> what happened between june 20 and yesterday? the facts didn't changed. what change was the enormous political pressure put on the u.s. attorney when he made a deal for what the facts and law showed to him deciding i don't want that grief any longer so i'll be a tough guy and take two pages of a misdemeanor where millions of americans file late and turn it into a 56 page document if his name wasn't hunter biden this wouldn't have happened. >> how is joe biden feeling about the second indictment of his son while it seems like he's too busy thinking about which celebrities he will be with tonight in california, watch him ignore reporters asking about hunter. >> any comment on the new charges against your son mr. president? >> well, judge, i think you disagreed with hunter's attorney abby lowell. >> i got to tell you if i were in trouble i would hire abby lowell but he's wrong here. look. the truth of the matter is that he had a plea deal that even the department of justice could not justify, even the department of justice one question said there is no precedent for anything like this so abby with due respect don't tell me this is that nothing has changed here. what has changed is the fact that hunter biden is being held responsible and accountable. this is not a guy who filed late returns. this is a guy who didn't file returns. and you know what? for everybody including the associated press who says well you know he was an addicted son i'm here to tell that you his tax failures were post-addiction issues. first of all i couldn't take out $1.6 billion from the citibank account where i bank. he was involved in human trafficking money launder, he was a foerng agent, none of that stuff was filed here. this is nothing more than lipstick on a pig taking the same charges and tell us everything we knew about this dirtbag's lifestyle, meaning hunter biden. no one is trying to kill you. people are trying to make sure there's the same justice for you as for everybody else in america and one final thing, that is that for those who say oh joe biden has nothing to do with this. you got james comer and congress trying to do what the department of justice and fbi should be doing 327 emails with joe biden using a sued name contacting members who are partners of hunter biden lying he didn't know about his sons businesses that he never did business with china did nothing illegal with china didn't take money from china lying when he said he did nothing illegal period. jane biden got money. james biden sent money to joe biden and we still haven't seen a memo that indicates it was a loan. >> harold hunter's attorneys are trying to make the case that nothing changed here but we saw and change that irs whistleblowers came forward to talk about what they couldn't pursue so it's important to listen to them now to remind them what they were saying. >> it appeared to need based on what i experience tlaed the u.s. attorney in delaware in our investigation was constantly hamstrung limited marginalized be doj officials as well as other u.s. attorneys. a number of times we were not able to follow the facts. >> prosecutors instructed investigators not to ask about the big guy or dad when conducting interviews or follow up on what's app messages from hunter biden i cloud backup where he suggested he was sitting next to his father. >> these are career irs investigators making these comments. >> doesn't matter what political party anybody is in. when you're accused of something the greatest thing in our legal system is presumption of innocence. every american gets that. it is curious president trump has said over and over again what he's facing he would not be facing some of the charges he's facing if his name were not trump and i think hunter biden said he wouldn't be facing the charges if he were not named biden so both of this are using a similar political argument. i've not read the indictment closely enough though i read summaries of and it's serious. there's jail time that goes along with this. hunter said he's innocent. we give him that presumption and we have to wait for the facts and tried to be held. i think with regard to the witnesses you showed at the start of your asking me the question this all blew up remember because they went into a courtroom in delaware and the two sides didn't have a meeting. minds about what the plea agreement was about. hunter's team thought it would covering everything and was a global blanket immunity agreement tan justice department thought it period tainted only to matters the gun stuff and tax stuff a couple number of years. >> the department knew because they hit it in the plea deal regarding the gun. >> let's get back to the facts. i understand people around herd want to see him buried. >> no i just want to see justice. >> so do i. the greatest thing that happens in the courtroom that hearing was held to let the defendant know when you plead guilty to something you go before a judge and the judge asks do you understand what you're pleadings to and neither side understood. >> how could they not understand it? the justice department wrote it up. >> the outcome is what you want in the judicial system. the court set you are not in agreement. >> this is kruchlt it's never been done before. >> well whatever the case the court said this is not, you all do not have an agreement. even when those whistleblowers did what they did they didn't do that. it was that judge that put us where we are because he said you guys don't have agreement. i think if i were in hunger's shoes i would be disappointed i didn't sign that agreement balls you at least take some of those charges off the table. so my point is when we get the facts and he goes before a jury and convicted he will face the music. if not the case and he's acquitted, fine. >> 58 pages lots of details and the number one thing about the taxes on money how did he get that money and who are his partners and the media is going out of their way to distance joe biden from the indictment. listen. >> no mention of joe biden no reference to joe biden indictment. >> hunter biden is not president. joe biden and there is no allegation in the 56 page indictment that the president did anything wrong. >> hunter biden was never running for office. this is a false charge set up by republicans. we will see. >> there's yet to be any evidence that president biden had anything to do with the criminal charges his son faces. >> so we move from never being in business to not being in the indictment. >> yes, this is what the media does, cover for him. it's so telling of the moment. we are told this is justice. harold you said serious indictment. on its face it is but it's the exact opposite of justice. why drop it now? he's about to testimony before james comer about to answer questions. under investigation can't talk about that anymore. will he sees justice? you hear people say no way it's going 17 years and even guilty what will judge do, wave his magic pardon wand. they don't mention anything about suspicious activity reports, sued names, emails, one sentence in there about russia and china. they found it easiest to say he didn't pay taxes, he paid hookers. let's throw the book at him call it justice and even so we can compare to it trump which is different. >> jimmy do you want to enlighten bus the jokes you've decided to pull? >> i have a serious point. reacting to what hunter said. they're not trying to destroy biden's presidency the biden doesn't need help with that. he's polling find isis now. okay. like 27 percent. to the hunter point. i give him a d in accounting but a on how he spent the money. no lie. fast cars fast women. i got to be honest the docket looks similar to the way it looks now but they wouldn't extend money because me dad wasn't sitting vice-president of the united states at the time and the alibi is hunter didn't work in government exactly. why would biden email him information under a false name? 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>> it is directing harassment. >> the answer is yes calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct krerkts? >> again it depends on the context. >> ivy league presidents are scrambling to save their jobs after disgracing themselves for failing to call out antisemitism on their campuses, university president asked to resign by penn business school because the school is losing out on a hundred million dollar donation from the donor who was quote appalled by the university stance on antisemitism. harvard president claudene gay says i'm sorry. even kamala's husband is trashing them. >> we have seen the presidents of some of our most elite universities literally unable to denounce calling for the genocide of jews as antisemitic. that lack of moral clarity is simply unacceptable. >> you know katie i'll start with you, you -- u-penn is set to lose a hundred million dollars and now she's apologizing for her testimony. she had one week to prepare for that testimony. if they had asked the question about any other group i doubt she would have hesitated to answer the question. the calling of genocide of any group is bad conduct. >> let's be clear the presidents are not apologizing because they somehow found more clarity on the issue. it's because they're losing these hundred million dollar checks and are embarrassed about that. when they talk about the context and how they could get to these answers all three of them having the same one essentially what is the context? they're penalized by the situation on campus so the context of the olympics is they would think who is making the claim is, that person morrow presented than the person making the claim, we don't think the jews are as oppressed as the palestinians. the context is such it's okay to make calls for genocide because of this allegation that the people making the calls are being oppressed somehow whether that's true or no they can't look at things in terms of right or wrong. it's one of the most horrific incidents in history. it's an obvious answer but because of the life on college ca campuses they've gotten themselves in this position which again is not because they have found some answer. they had some read them a statement they tried to reread and now they're saying they're sorry with their jobs on the line. >> harvard misgendering, phobia constitutes violence according to title 9 about the antisemitism requires context. >> first of all everything katie said is correct about the hire can i of oppression. but the same time a hundred million dollars is a drop in the bucket for those institutions. it's got to reach $600 million. next month we have poison ivy about the funding of these schools and they're international hedge funds who teach classes through a marxist line. that's why they're so smug. they're afraid of the students if anything and certainly not the donors and wedded to one world view and hide behind free speech. that's their mantra. tell that to the conservatives and the christians and the white kids and everybody else on campus who has been on the wrong side of that woke olympics and so we have got to the genocide of an entire people as old as time and they want more context. >> there's a sound i'd like to you listen to harold by i think it's harvard president. >> in that moment i was focused on our university's long-standing policies, align wee the u.s. constitution that says that speech alone is not punishable. i was not focused on but i should have been. >> okay. that's penn's mcgill. she's saying the constitution protected me. >> so i'm a penn undergrad and i think it's simple. i don't know about the woke olympics. what i know is if you can condemn terrorism if you cannot identify that genocide of a population of people as something you're not going tolerate within the policies of your campus particularly when you have it in your rule book and policy book you shouldn't be in that role. i hate to say this school has been embarrassed the last several weeks, so many of my classmates and i signed the first letter weeks ago when mcgill didn't respond why you had roger waters who has spoken about israel and jewish people i think in an awful way, they had him coming on the highest jewish hol hol hol holiday yom kippur and i try to send a few nickels back every year but i joined the call saying i would only send a dollar until we had substantive change. she had opportunity to show maturity and didn't. whatever her motivation coming back is up to her. i don't think she's fit to be president of the school and it's unfortunate but you have one job when you're the president of a university when it comes to promoting dynamic enthusiastic conversations even if i disagree you got to make it safe for kids to be able to share their views and learn. i'm against punishing kids. i saw a friend say he was going to put the names down and not hire them. these are kids. give people opportunity for second chances but the president of the school to go before a congressional committee and not be able to condemn terrorism and genocide are not fit to be president of the school. >> jimmy wrap it up. >> i agree with harrell until they have to fire her. she shouldn't get the grace of a resignation there. are certain questions you don't get a second crack at. if we are hiring a babysitter and ask are you going keep the kids safe, no. if they call me back after reflecting on this, you're not hiring them, okay? 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