jesse watters, and when she does a mike drop, it falls 2 inches. dana perino. "the five." ♪ ♪ mayorkas spinning like someone needs a talking point for tomorrow's cnn presidential debate. biden's dhs secretary at the border in arizona to do a victory lap of getting the record numbers down. but as always you can see through the b.s. just by opening your eyes, or by listening to the families whose loved ones a fallen victim to countless illegal immigrant criminals and those rapists and murderers aren't only the bad hombres coming in. cbs is reporting a guys from tajikistan were busted over plotting a terrorist attack and dhs fighting over 400 migrants brought here by a smuggling network link to isis. dozens of them are still unaccounted for, but mayorkas wants you to believe the vetting is aces. >> the safety and security of the american public is indeed our highest priority. we screen and fat individuals when we encounter them. >> the safety and security of the american people are our highest priority. we screen and vet individuals at the time of encounter. we screen and vet individuals at the border when we encounter them the different agencies and departments across the federal enterprise are working more cooperatively and more effectively and doing more robust screening and vetting than ever before. >> greg: which is scary. mayorkas isn't the only democrat acting callous over the border crisis. democrats don't seem to know about the 12-year-old girl murdered by two migrants in houston. >> can i ask you quickly about the 12-year-old girl in houston that was tortured? >> i don't even know who you are and i don't know who she is. i live in pittsburgh. >> these are horrible incidents, and i think anyone who conducts that kind of terrible act has to be prosecuted. undocumented immigrants commit far fewer crimes than anyone else. >> that is an awful -- since migrants often time, cording to the data, police departments, less likely to commit crimes than natural born citizen spirits because sometimes people slip through the cracks, and that is why we take a step back and look at the process. >> immigrants, legal or illegal, commit crimes at a rate far lower than native-born americans. >> greg: dana, they always seem to pivot in that direction, rather than actually address the fact that these were preventable crimes. they go to the rate of crimes be a well, they happen at a much lower rate. but these actually wouldn't happen at all if you just instead of relied on local law enforcement to catch the people you didn't that come actually close the border appearance before it's like their empathy trackers get blocked off when they get into congress because they are so far away from it. i bet if you talk to the mayor of houston today, not a republican, they would say, yeah, this is a horrible, horrible situation. think about what even the governor of maryland, democrat, who dealt with at situation last week, rachel morin, hearse between two and murder. building america's future, conservative organization, put up an ad today that will run i believe tomorrow night on the debate or at least surrounding it and it is called, basically says that biden's immigration policies are a nightmare for women. and it's a minute long ad and it goes through all of it. so mayorkas is trying to do something, soften up the ground for joe biden or provide him some air cover tomorrow because when immigration comes up in a debate, president trump knows and he is sitting on like a 21% advantage over biden on the immigration policies, and they put mayorkas out there and he is like baghdad bob saying everything is fine. and i really feel for the local law enforcement and our intel officials -- and the fbi -- because the pressure they are already under with the americans that are here, let alone the illegal migrants that come across, and what you are talking about with the 400, those are known people who are here. the number of got-aways in the country, years have to assume that some of them are probably from a place that has terrorist ties, and i think you are going to see a lot more of this. i think biden, when all of this is said and done, when the history books are written about this election, there is just no doubt that this issue is going to be the one where you say you can actually see a direct cause and effect from a policy to the problems it has caused in america. >> greg: you know, jesse, the strategy to downplay based on the fact that not all of the illegals are murdering. and also, it's like, not all women and girls in america are being murdered. they only play the numbers game. they don't actually play the actual -- address the actual crime. >> jesse: i will play a numbers game with you. >> greg: please do. >> jesse: let's say you were caught committing a murder appeared >> greg: okay p >> jesse: hillary vaughn came up to me, any comment on greg gy homicide? and i said, you know, whites do as a percentage of the population commit less homicides than african americans. what? you just slaughtered a whole family with a knife, gutfeld. that is not the time to make those kind of comparisons. don't get any ideas. i am reading a book. >> greg: that is more unbelievable than the example you gave the arts be what it's called "don't sweat the small stuff," you should read it, jeanine pirro you, too, greg. one other thing it tells you to do is put yourself and other people's position, some thing i don't usually do. try to imagine what it is like being mayorkas. his job is to spin -- this job is not really to tell you the truth. his job is to defend biden. and as a defender of joe biden, he is doing a great job. look at the numbers, not only ready book, i did rese research. every spring, the numbers go down. but it's not like this all of a sudden happened because of a stupid executive order. every spring it happens. that is like in the fall me saying i just called the planet. no, it is hot in august and then it gets cooler. it happens every year. not only that, he is doing these little apps where you have to make an appointment to break into the country and he is not counting all of the people that are going to the points of entry, and he is not counting the people he is flying in on planes, so that is how they are juicing the numbers. greg, we are missing isis people in america. just hanging out. where is isis. and he is saying that is not true? how can you just have missing isis guys and say that is bad reporting? if trump was missing isis, that would be a major scandal, major. >> greg: exactly. by the way, that's a little islamophobic. >> jesse: tajikistan? are they muslim there? >> greg: i think so. >> jesse: you would assume that, wouldn't you? >> greg: judge, they say there is no imminent threat because of these 400 illegals coming in. >> judge jeanine: i love it. >> greg: judge that. >> judge jeanine: i love it. they identify 400 who are potentially isis connected. they rounded up 150 of them. 50 they have no idea where they are, but mayorkas' response, we screened them and yvette them at the time we encounter them with such pride, i might add, and we proceed with extreme caution but there is "no evidence that these individuals are planning to harm anybody. are you stupid? the guys who distr orchestratedd created all of the destruction on 9/11 didn't do it them day they came in. they were here for many months preparing to do 9/11. and then he said, quote, it is a very small number. well, that's all it takes. look at 9/11. a very small number appeared and then he says, and we have definitely decreased the encounters in the united states. and the truth is somebody said to him from msnbc, if it was so easy to do, why didn't you do it a year and a half ago? you know what his answer was? we didn't need to, we had title 42 and the border was secure. well, then tell me, how did 7 million people get into the country? this is -- this is very sad. it is pathetic. it is our government not protecting american citizens. and what this guy is doing is he is creating what 51 intel agents did for joe biden. creating the ability to say, as a result of my executive order, which i didn't have to do until just a couple months ago, encounters are down and we have identified people who are concerning to us, and you don't have to worry. this guy today should have been apologizing to the american people. he should have been apologizing to the family of rachel morin, jocelyn nungaray, the 13-year-old in queens. he should have said, i'm sorry, we missed it. we only have to be wrong one time, and we did not serve you well. he should be apologizing and not so damn arrogant. >> greg: kennedy, i have a rule. would you like to hear it? >> kennedy: i love your rules. >> greg: 170 tries to gaslight you when you are alone, you will question your sanity, but when o gaslighted much of people, you have to question their sanity p had >> kennedy: that's all mayorkas does bear guy am shocked he still has a j. as the chief of dhs, he shouldn't be spinning, he should be protecting the homeland. that is what the position was created for post-9/11, and he is doing a really bad job of it. i don't trust the vetting process, i really don't. if you had different law enforcement agencies saying different things about the same problem, that means that either one of them is so politicized, they are completely in denial, or they are not talking to each other, and we all know that 9/11 happened because there was a failure in communication among federal law enforcement. and the whole point of restructuring the government, at least from that aspect, was to make sure that never happens again, but when mayorkas says, yeah, we have this magical vetting process, well, your vetting process is garbage p or quit is absolutely horrible. it is also offensive because it is kind of like, to your point, victim blaming. if it wasn't these people who murdered a 13-year-old or a mother of five, or a young promising college student, would they still be alive? you know, under mayorkas' logic, no, something else would have befallen them, and that's probably their fault, because it is certainly not ours. and so jerry nadler, when he talks about -- and pramila jayapal -- they talked, yes, it's true, statistically, immigrants in this country do commit fewer crimes because it means something for them to be here. so travelers also commit very few crimes p are under that logic, we should probably disband the tsa because we don't need it. people who are flying are by and large statistically speaking very, very safe. so we shouldn't have the tsa at all because we don't need it. the statistics are our guide. >> greg: brilliant point from kennedy. you are in the lead right now, but we have another game coming up at the break. coming up for joe biden's army of 16 advisors are working on a special tactic to throw trump off the cnn presidential debate. ♪ ♪ i was born with a fire inside. but psoriasis doused my flame. until i got clearer skin with bimzelx. most people got 100% clear skin. some after the first dose. 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"if trump is more sedated than incensed, the goal for biden will be to elicit what his aides see as the true trump." let's hope for joe's sake that he can remember the put-downs. brain freeze is on thin ice and charlamagne tha god thinks if the debate goes south, it could be joe's last stand. >> if he does flop so hard that even the media can't deny it, should they pull him? >> i would say yes. the reason i would say yes is because you know the base is going to show up, but it's about those independents pi think he would probably have no choice, you know, but to pull them if you really truly care about democracy. >> jesse: so as a little extra insurance to make sure joe doesn't fail, "the new york times" will be ruling out a small army of fact-checkers, 29 in total, 29, to spin biden gaffes and attack trump p rear going to you first, kennedy, since you are in the lead for great points. what do you think of the 29 fact-checkers, with the trigger warning we are getting? >> kennedy: i think they should have 34 fact-checkers for every felony donald trump was convicted of. >> jesse: you are really running up the score. i don't think we can come back from that. >> kennedy: i think it is great. you should fill joe biden's had with as many nuggets as you can because if that is what he is doing during the debate, he is not even thinking about his record. he has to spend a week preparing for this and the best he's got is trump "your mama" jokes? they are setting him up for failure. they don't know what to do with this guy. someone today on x asked why is the obama campaign, why are they the ones consulting with the biden campaign? because they actually had a popular president. who kind of had a feel for politics. these people have no idea what they are doing, and they have lost track of what are supposed to be his positives here. at this point, he has all deficits, and the reason they're having the debate now and not closer to the general election is because they want people to forget the results. >> jesse: so, jeanine, joe is going to be an insult comedian tomorrow night. do you think that is going to work? >> judge jeanine: it will be interesting. he is supposed to be the adult in the room. he is supposed to sound presidential and yet he has to take all of these cheap shots? he has to try to poke the bear and say all of these crazy stuff because he thinks he is going to be able to trigger donald trump, and the amazing part of it is i'm not sure that joe can tell if he is triggering donald trump or not. i don't know if joe can keep in his mind that if he says of this, i say that, or if he says that, do i say this? i'm not quite sure. that is what is crazy about all of this. the guy does the job as president. what do you have to prepare for? you have been doing it every day for the last three and half years. you have to go into an airport hangar and hang with a bunch of people and eat lasagna? what is the point of all of this. donald trump knows that joe biden is going to try to push his buttons. donald trump knows that he is waiting for him to respond. he knows the facts are on his side and all he has to do is turn around and say to joe, you are the reason the economy is in the tank. you are a reason there is a war in the middle east. when i was president, there was peace in the middle east, gas prices were down, inflation was basically nothing, and let's hope that trump's people have at least 15 people to check joe biden, who says that inflation was 9% when he became the president. so what i think is interesting, though, is that nate silver now says that this presidential race is no longer a toss-up. and so what these candidates have to do is they don't have to speak to their base. so when you see donald trump at a rally, that's his base. he gets energy from them, and they get energy from him. he is not going to be speaking to those people tomorrow night. he is going to be speaking to the nikki haley people. he is going to be speaking to the uncommitted voters. so i don't think they are going to be able to trigger donald trump. >> jesse: dana p? >> dana: to keep a couple things in mind, first of all, i said yesterday it was weird they were giving so much detail about it. when you have this many people who are involved in the prep, 16 plus each person has an aide, at a researcher, right, so now your circle is getting bigger and bigger, then you have weeks like this. i don't know if it was a strategy to tell the press biden is going to try to trigger trump but also did we need to know that because isn't that what you try to do in every debate? that's kind of the point of debating. you would know that better than anybody. the other thing to keep in mind as president trump has advantages that biden doesn't happen vice versa. president trump is higher on the ability to do the job, stamina. improvements on the economy, because people remember what it was like. competence and national security. joe biden has that he cares about things that i care about, although that number has slipped, and protecting rights, even though on a more recent poll, thick it was the npr poll, protecting democracy, that actu, so there is a lot they can play with here. the last thing i would say is the biden team keeps saying something snapped in trump when he lost in 2020. biden has been saying this privately amongst his folks and that private fundraisers, and he believes that. but you have seen in the last several months, president trump is a disciplined candidate. he wants to win, he is engaged, he is energetic, he is actually having fun. and the people at his campaign rallies are having fun in the meantime, biden is saying voters have amnesia. that they don't member how bad it was under president trump. once again, you are questioning what people are seeing with their own eyes when it comes to immigration and what they are feeling in their own pocketbooks when they go to pay for things. >> jesse: biden has amnesia. that's who has amnesia, greg. >> greg: voters wish they could have amnesia and forget the last four years, jesse. >> jesse: would you like to continue in your all-black ensemble? >> greg: i look like a bouncer at a little person's strip club. i am still amazed at the amount of effort that is being devoted to prepping for a 90-minute debate that is in a controlled, sterilized environment, with one man. it is like biden is clary's having dinner with hannibal lector, and they've got trump in a case know my cage, his arm strapped down and a straitjacket and she is coming in with an armed entourage in case he wants to bite her ear off. anyway, 29 fact-checkers. at least they can rest when joe is talking to you this is a lesson about democrats. they only work hard when it comes to preserving their power. if they -- look at their jaden nonresponse to the immigration just now. if they just focused 10% of all of this energy for the debate on the border or crime or homelessness or drug addiction, we would be in a better place. there would be more people alive, that's for sure. this speaks to biden's huge flaw: no reciprocation. the cynicism that even the democrats are talking about among the biden voting bloc is they support him despite no reciprocity. the difference between biden and trump, trump, if you vote for him, he will make promises and he will try to full them, might not get them all done, but at least he tries because that is in the genetic makeup of a sales man. but biden, he hasn't delivered on a single promise, even to the people who voted for him. unity? that didn't happen. return to normalcy? that didn't happen. any kind of crime, immigration, we went through all of that. biden is like a company. the white house is like a company that flood your inbox with special days and special months and here is what is in the cafeteria today. here is a charity fun run. all of these nice thi