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witnesses who spoke we will have more on that with witnesses who spoke in the trial. >> really fascinating. >> have a good weekend, my friend. >> you too. >> and thanks to at-home for joining me in this. our today the biden campaign released a memo outlining what they see as the state of the 2024 race so far. the big takeaway from that memo is that biden's campaign believes this will be a very close general election. now the memo only mentions donald trump by name twice, and it makes a point of saying that the biden campaign is prepared no matter who emerges as the republican nominee. but it is clear that this campaign memo is about beating donald trump. maga is mentioned 15 times in it. the plan, as it is laid out here, focuses on drawing a contrast between biden and trump and between biden and maga extremism. we saw a little bit of that contrast in action today as president biden visited lewiston, maine. biden spoke in front of the just in time bowling alley, one of the two sites of the two of the horrific massacres last week that left 15 dead and -- injured. >> i know consensus is only possible when it's about common sense, reasonable, responsible measures to protect our children, our families, and our communities. because regardless of our politics, this is about protecting our freedom to go to a bowling alley, a restaurant, a school, a church, without being shot and killed. >> president biden's been calling on congress to pass into assault weapons ban and universal background checks and to strengthen red flag laws, all things republicans oppose. but today biden's message was about asking how the nation might come together. what change could we all agree upon? that message, even just biden's posture in general, stands in stark contrast to the way in which former president trump responded to the shooting. on the night of the shooting, at 9:48 pm, trump posted a short message on social media calling the unfolding massacre a terrible situation. just three minutes later, at 10:01 pm, had moved on. he had switched gears and instead congratulated the new far-right speaker of the house, like johnson. in a few minutes after that, and 10:14 pm, where news outlets across the country were clearly reporting this is a mass casualty event and an active man hunt, donald trump posted this video, with the caption for, which shows trump hitting a golf ball that is then edited to make it look like the ball hits president biden over and over again. that is pretty much all we got from donald trump. not even a generic thoughts and prayers statement, just a video name of the trump hitting the president united states with a golf ball, repeatedly. so when it comes to the biden campaign strategy to try and show contrast between these two men, that should be fairly easy. and when it comes to the biden campaign's plan to show contrast between biden and the maga movement itself, that also should be relatively straightforward. for example, this week congressman can block, a member of the trump aligned far-right house freedom caucus, buck announced he would not seek reelection, citing his party's extreme election denialism as the reason that he is leaving elected office. >> too many republican leaders are lying to america, claiming that the 2020 election was stolen, describing january six as a non guided tour of the capital. >> one of the most conservative members of the house of is apparently not maga enough to remain in the republican conference. meanwhile this was former president trump kicking off a rally in houston texas yesterday night. if you don't recognize that mash-up of the pledge of allegiance in the star-spangled banner, you are not to blame. it is a recording called justice for all, featuring the voice of trump himself and acquire made up of men who are in jail because of their involvement in the january 6th riot on the capital. donald trump does not refer to those men as rioters or insurrectionists or even as just prisoners. he refers to them like this. >> well thank you very much, and you know i call them the j six hostages, not prisoners. i call them the hostages. >> he calls them the hostages. men who have been charged with crimes including assaulting a police officer with a crowbar and chemical spray and trying to break a window of the capitol building with a metal acts. to trump, those are hostages in the american justice system. hostages who trump has said he will consider pardoning if reelected. now trump is polling about 45 points higher on average than his closest competitor in the republican primary, and he is doing a lot of the biden campaign's work on his own. trying to draw sharp contrast between himself and the rest of his republican competitors, for instance, trump is planning to once againthe third republican primary debate in miami, which is happening next . instead, trump is planning to counter program the debate with a rally of his own, just ten miles from where the debate is being held. a campaign official said the news today that their campaign will also have a presence in florida next week. among other things they are planning to place billboards around plumps trump's rally to counter program the counter programming. so that is part of the biden strategy for 2024, a race the campaign itself predicts will be very close, and where however unbelievably donald trump is currently polling an average of half a point higher than president biden in a head to head matchup. joining me now is pennsylvania state representative malcolm kenyatta, a member of the biden 2024 campaign's national advisory board. he also chairs biden's board on education, equity, excellence, and economic activity for black americans. thank you for joining me. tonight >> good to see you. >> so let's talk about the strategy. first of all, i have to ask you, because you are in the state of pennsylvania. president biden has made eight trips to the state of pennsylvania this year. he won it, of course, by 80,000 votes. it was, it's been a lot of time there in the closing days of the election, and even after. tell me a little bit about how you think he is doing in that state and how tight you think it's going to be. >> pennsylvania, as i like to say, is the center of the political universe. you don't get to become president the united states without winning pennsylvania. president biden is gonna win pennsylvania again, i tell you that. and i'm happy to see him. i think anytime he is out, whether it is talking to farmers about his administration's really focused on small business owners from the firearm to the corner stores in my district in north philadelphia, whether he's talking about his investments in things like clean energy, whether he is standing up for our democracy. in philadelphia, where was all born, he has a real story to tell, from pennsylvania to scranton to erie to johnstown and everywhere in between. so we're excited to have. him >> you focus on two communities, won the white working class, and won the more urban black voter. both groups that biden is clearly very concerned about showing up for him in november. i want to talk a little bit about the manufacturing white working class. president biden, first american president to walk a picket line was striking uaw workers. that is something i would imagine that matters in a state like pennsylvania. there are many manufacturing jobs still in the state. union labor means something to the people of pennsylvania. how significant was that move on the part of president biden to voters in pennsylvania? >> you know, it is a big deal, but it is one example of a long line of ways in which this president hasn't just said he is the most pro labor president, but his actually proved it. i was on the lehigh valley yesterday, walking the political the picket line myself, with the uaw workers who built the best mack truck's in the world. and what you hear over and over again, and what i tweeted out about my marriage there, is workers are done being treated like crap. to have somebody in the white house who is not just showing up and talking to working people, showing up for a photo op, you see him with a lot of republicans, particularly those who run for senate. they are fine the bubble vest company our guest. and praise with president biden they know that it's real. that this is who he has always been. we called him scranton joe. that's what he was talking about. those workers that own not only feel left behind, which feels patronizing to, say who were left behind. they aren't anymore manufacturing. look at the print the jobs this president has created, from the chips act and on and on and on. you are seeing things built here in america, and one of those tech hubs we're also gonna see in pennsylvania, pennsylvania was also another regional states where folks who were gonna benefit from the investments from the infrastructure act also from the american rescue plan, time and time again pennsylvania has been a place where the presidents agenda, you can see it on full display, and so it's no surprise that he continues to show up. >> sorry to interrupt, there's a broad belief that the president is not, especially with democrats, that president biden doesn't get the credit he is due for the policy he's managed to get through congress, the executive actions that he is taking that are directly benefiting americans. a great example of that, this isn't a people, 76% of americans favor medicare, allowing medicare to we go she prescription drug prices. that was something president biden shepherded through. but the same poll finds only 48% of americans approve of how biden is handling the issue. that's two on a number of different issues. why is it, how is this a race into the average of paul's donald trump is ahead of joe biden right now? >> i think that there is an intentional effort. your show not included. of folks to minimize president biden's accomplish accomplishments. they treat these as something any president could've done. i don't think any president could've put us in a position where we would be recovering from the pandemic better than any other industrialized country in the world. i don't think any president who didn't have the type of experience and understanding of how to get things done, would have been able to get its annex a position where we are seeing unemployment at record lows. we are seeing real wages grow for the first time in forever. i don't think, without having a leader with his type of focus and vision of power economy should work in the first place, when it been able to do what he did. he says it all the time. he has a focus on investing in working people and middle class families and recognizing that when you do so everybody does better. on the other side, you had a republican party who has made it very clear, they have a very different vision. their vision is, if you give more and more money to the people of the top, the folks who are seeing record profits, if you just put more money in their pockets, maybe a nickel or penny will fall out in hit the working person on the head. >> literally trickle down economics. money has to fall from the pockets. but i have to ask you, we know the campaign has already begun in earnest, i reached to black and hispanic communities. they clearly think they have to do some work especially where young people of color are involved. what is it about the biden presidency that isn't resonating given the good work cities to, and given the way which democrats are able to point evidence about ways he has moved the country forward? >> i think we need to turn on its head that argument. you don't talk to voters just because you want something from them. you talk to them because you actually recognize that you have to listen, and you have to earn their votes, and i'm excited to see a president in a campaign that's not talking to black voters and young voters, the october before the election, is so often happens. i mean, this is a president who has made historic investments, in hispanic media, in black media, in having conversations about what he has done. look at the issue of gun violence, for example. i was four years old the last time a major piece, a bipartisan gun legislation, passed in washington. this president was part of getting it done then. he was part of getting it done again. look at lowering the cost of insulin. the first time you and i met you are interviewing me in my district outside the church of the advocate in north philly. and that moment i remember talking to you about why i was running for state wrap. my mom rationed her insulin my entire life growing up. i lived six different times by the time this place is by the time i graduated high school. i think of the difference it would've made if my mother only had to pay 35 bucks for her insulin instead of the hundreds of boxes cc and so many had to. pay both my parents passed by the time i was 27 because they don't have access to the type of health care that people deserve. for me and so many other folks, it's not hypothetical. it's not a game. what i love to see is this president understands the black voters are a part of the coalition that elected him. but he is doing what too many people forget to do, which is to make sure that you are continually hoarding courting the people that brought you to the dance, that you're showing them that not only are you going to lead on issues that matter, but you're also gonna listen to them on managers we continue to do. the child tax credit. the president i know is gonna make sure that we bring the child tax credit back because we know the. impact a lower child poverty. cut it in half. for families like mine, that makes a difference. and so he is taking nobody for granted. but he is also not getting distracted with the noise and the nonsense that we see from that maga mic and from donald trump and all these other people. >> unfortunately he's going to have to address maga-ism while also making the case for his not significant achievements first term in office. malcolm kenyatta, i love that you remember when we were first met. it was a special day for me to. look at us now. we did good. state representative malcolm kenyatta, member of president biden's national advisory board. now i want to bring in michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times. i just want to get to something i was just touching on with representative kenyatta, which was this idea that biden effectively is a two-pronged approach here. and once he has to remind the country of the darkness of maga on the horizon and its chief principal architect, donald trump, potentially being the nominee, and then also sort of paint a more optimistic picture of what the country can be if he is given four more years in office. that seems like a lot of high wire acting to do. >> i think the first part of that is gonna be much easier because ultimately he'll have donald trump's help, donald trump on the rest of his acolytes in congress. we're not seeing a lot of donald trump right now. his fraud trial is kind of preempted by the hideous situation in the middle east. but once the campaign begins in earnest, donald trump will be back in people's faces every day reminding people not just how, not just kind of what a grotesque figure he is, but also how much more radical's rhetoric is now, even then it was in 2016. and so i think that would go a long way towards making the case of what a maga restoration will look like. the other part that is really hard to give this country, which is so battered, so depressed, so polarized, a sense of hope and optimism and forward momentum. especially because biden, i think, has been a very good president. he's been a very good administrator. but he is not a great orator. he is not the one who leaves you in tears at the end of the rally. >> i think the fundamental question, michelle, is how much biden can leave the hard work of the fire and brimstone version of america to donald trump, who is happy, it appears, to do it on his own, and how much he has to be a direct contrast to that. you look at the reaction in lewiston, maine. how much can he just kind of sit back and let trump be a post-empathy rage machine and he can just act the part of the actual statesman in all of this. >> well, i think that, a couple of things. first of all, i think being able to act the the statesman to some degree depends on launching some more foreign policy successes. it's easier to act the statesman when the world doesn't seem like it's on fire even though i don't fault biden for many of the ways the world is descending into chaos. but also i think that biden represents or ran in 2020 on a return to do a ballot he can. but i think it's increasingly clear that the pre-trump status quo isn't coming back. in so what we needed this point is he talked about being a bridge to the future. and i think that he needs to show more clearly what that future is, where that bridge is leading. >> the numbers on american perceptions regarding his legislative accomplishments are just staggering. staggeringly insufficient, given how much his administration has gotten done. that is a big part of the proposal of the way forward. michelle goldberg, thank you for always for your insights. coming up tonight, we will have a deep dive into a major player in some of the most effective and extreme right wing lawsuits in americas courts. a player who was reportedly on the shortlist for a much bigger role should there be a trump administration two point oh. meanwhile, breaking developments in trump's criminal trial down a, washington and lee. we're gonna bring you the details on that, coming up next. up next shingles. some describe it as pulsing electric shocks or sharp, stabbing pains. ♪♪ this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes 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