Transcripts For MSNBCW Alex 20240702 : vimarsana.com

MSNBCW Alex July 2, 2024



familiar security concerns on capitol hill after decision announced last night by house republicans, plus, how the 14th amendment fight just took a puzzling new turn in colorado. the headline that highlights what could be key for democrats in 2024. a very good at all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york, welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we have breaking news in the israel-hamas war. rocket fire lighting up the night sky once again on the israel gaza border. as israel's military is pushing on with its increasing military offensive in southern gaza. meanwhile, a massive march in jerusalem, thousands of people demanding the resolution in the effort to get those 200 plus hostages kidnapped by hamas on october 7th, bring them back home. we've got a lot to get to know, with our jay gray who's in tel aviv. jay, welcome in again. israel indicating it is prepared to intensify military operations. is this the next phase? the start of the next phase in the war against hamas? >> it would certainly seem to be, alex, there is no question that the mission is expanding inside of gaza. we know that there have been significant airstrikes throughout the last 24 hours to the south right now. the idf says they have control of the northern portion of gaza, as well as gaza city, and feel like they are beginning to move on. a lot of the forces in a lot of the fighting are now in some of the densely populated urban areas. as they continue to move south, there are reports today of a hit on a school. hamas says that dozens of people were killed. the idf, to this point, has not commented on that situation. we do know that tens of thousands have been moving to the south, at the urging of the idf, where they were told there would be more safe. and it would have more aid in that area. they have warned those that are in the south right now to, quote, stay out of harm's way. and we know that we've seen airstrikes today as well in -- and rafah. those areas. they are definitely focusing more on the south at this point. >> jay gray in tel aviv, thank you for that update. we appreciate that. we're gonna be checking in with our reporter in beirut on the latest in the situation to the north of israel, that will happen later on this hour. also, this breaking news, new potential security concerns at theu. capitol. afr use republicans on friday ved to publicly leas a trove ofjanuary 6th capitol riot footage, speaker mike johnson saying, he plans to soon finish posting online over 40,000 hours of video. joining me now is nbc's ryan riley, author of the book sedition hunters. how january 6th broke the justice system. ryan, as i welcome you, access to the footage has many worried it could be used to endanger those that are inside the capitol at some point. what other concerns here? >> i think the real concern would probably be about evacuation routes that lawmakers typically use. some of that as already trickled out, in fact, on january 6th itself, senators accidentally gave up one of the locations where they went to hide during the attack. overall, looking through this footage, some of this footage has been released previously, portions of an have been released previously, this is really going to help online investigators actually identify even more people who went inside the capitol. although speaker mike johnson has said they're going to try to blur faces going forward. some of the criminals, who enter the capitol that day, he says they don't want them to get doxxed. that's basically a nod to this notion that a lot of the tips that are coming into the fbi are coming from the sedition hunters community. overall, what we've seen thus far, is just a lot of misinformation in downplaying of january 6th. a lot of the videos that are circulating on x, formerly known as twitter, by a lot of right-wing figures, or showing some may be some of these calmer moments, they're cherry-picking these moments where an officer is not losing a finger because he had assaulted on the west side of the capitol on january 6th. where officers aren't under a vicious assault under a mob of rioters and being pepper sprayed and having their own weapons used against them. they're just picking these moments to try to downplay the severity and the violence of what happened on january 6th. i think that could really be a true threat going forward. we had just a huge portion of the country not believing the -- of what happened on january 6th, thinking this was some sort of fbi set up, or this was all antifa. some conspiracy theories that have been circulating for the past two years. that's really why this is all coming out. because a lot of the republican base believes, theoretically, it wouldn't be beneficial for mike johnson to put out all of these videos, because of january 6th. that's what they're really getting at here they're trying to bring up these conspiracy theories. and prove that january 6th wasn't as bad as it was. >> it almost renders me speechless when you say that. let me ask you this question, and then the last because you reported on friday judge tanya chutkan issued that order denying donald trump's demand to strike mentions of the january 6th incide from his federal election inteerence trial. it's set to go to trial injust over three months. what else can you tell us about this ruling? >> yeah, this is an important ruling, ultimately what she decided here was that because the jurors are actually going to receive the indictment directly, they're gonna receive her instructions, this doesn't really ultimately matter. but given the video and the audiotape that we saw come out in jonathan carl's book, in connection with that with this week, which shows that donald trump knew the power that he had over the crowd, this is going to be a very important part of jack smith's case. showing that donald trump knew how he could influence this group, and didn't do much during that violence. they're basically, what they're saying is, this violence was part of the ultimate plot, alex. it's gonna play a crucial role in this upcoming trial. when it starts in march. as you mentioned. >> okay, ryan reilly. thank you very much for the conversation. appreciate that. also new today, nbc reports growing dysfunction in congress, well a leading house democrat calls out republicans on their lack of civility. >> that's what's going on in the republican party,'s civil war. they had the same march that we had when we were in the majority in the last congress. four votes. we have differences. we are not a monolithic party. but one thing we do have was the scene not to have and that is civility. i don't think that what we've seen in recent days from the republican congress is anything akin to what anybody would be teaching their children going forward. >> capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin has the very latest on this. julie, i'm gonna ask you to give us a sense of what all that chaos looked like in congress this week? >> come on, alex, you know the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about it. but i guess here we are. this week certainly started off with a near brawl on both chambers of this building. in the house, yet tim burchett, one of the republicans voted to oust kevin mccarthy from the speakership, sweet apparently saying that the speaker had kidney punched him. had jab him. then on the other side of the capitol, you had senator mark way mullin, a former mma fighter, in a hearing with the teamsters president basically say he won you want to fight, let's get up and go. tensions were certainly running high after the complete chaos that we've seen over the last ten weeks. it's not often that the house is in session for that long, certainly tempers were flaring. it was time for them to all go home, as they did early on wednesday. for the thanksgiving holiday to be with family and friends and try to cool down a bit. before they get back into session for a lot of work. he thought it would only go up from there. however, the week ended with that explosive ethics report about george santos, alleging that he discredited the house, that he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign funds of on everything from botox to onlyfans to vacations and honeymoons. really everything under the sun. yesterday, you actually had a motion filed to expel him from the house. things are just only getting crazier and weirder around here. >> you know, you could've said looking a bunch of nursery schoolers who missed their nap. but anyway, let me ask you about the long to do list ahead of the after break the thanksgiving break, how are lawmakers planning to push legislation through so quickly? is there any hope they're gonna do it in a civilized way? >> that's the big question. i'm not even sure that republicans, especially those in the house, know the answer to that. look, my sources are telling me, the main priority they're gonna have when they get back from the thanksgiving break, national security supplemental requested by the president, aid to ukraine, eight israel, the indo-pacific region, and of course, the border security concerns that particularly republicans in the house have said they will not allow any of the other priorities to pass without some meaningful policy changes. sources i spoke to told me that really they gotta get that done by the end of the year. the moment they're an election year, in january, it's gonna get a lot harder for them to compromise and negotiate on all of these policy matters. then you also have the separate issue of actually funding the government, and keeping it open for a full year. hard-line conservatives i spoke to, members of the house freedom caucus, said they take johnson at his word, he would not pass additional short term funding bills. they're really hoping that this would mean a full year funding bill gets passed sometime in january, even february, those two funding clips. again, uphill battle to actually make that happen. >> for sure, okay, we'll see what happens first in january than a couple weeks later in february. thank, you julie. winning and losing at the same time in colorado, what lies ahead for the fight to keep donald trump off the ballot there. we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect their money with chase. woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check. tools that help protect. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. teeth sensitivity is so common. it immediately feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patients say you know doc, it really works. two big developments in the trials of donald trump, florida judge aileen cannon is rejecting jack smith's attempt to set december deadlines in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. and a new report in the guardian estimates the case is now running about four months behind schedule. joining me now, charles coleman, former brooklyn new york prosecutor, and our civil rights attorney in an msnbc legal analyst. okay, my friend, let's get into this. asok atrump's legal schedule, look at that calendar and hocolicated it is. if judge cannon says she wot even consider certain deadlines in thiscase until march, where might this mar-a-lago case land on the calendar? >> well, alex, wherever it lands, this is exactly what donald trump's defense team wanted. they were trying to get this delayed as long as they could. this was the perfect case to do it. and the reason i say that is, the number of documents that are involved in the classifications of these documents required certain level of clearance for them to even get access to the discovery. then they potentially dragged their feet in terms of getting clearance necessary, judge aileen cannon hasn't shown doubling us to push this case along. i'm fully expecting that there could be an argument and that there will be an argument to move this past the election, and expect this might happen. which is something that his defense team was angling for from the very beginning. >> there is something else, i want to take a look at the tweet from oursnbc colleague andrew weissmann. he says, judge cannon's bias is showing inject smi has to be weighing weather, when and how to seek her reversal by the court of appeals in her removal. is there an option or process for prosecutors to seek her removal? >> there is. well i do respect my colleague, andrew weissmann's tweet and opinion, i don't necessarily think it's risen to the level where that's likely going to happen. i think that, even if checks mid were to do so, that's more of a chess move than anything else. at the point that he is moving to ask the court of appeals for her removal, if it's not granted, they're still going to be an high placed on judge cannon her decisions, she's aware of that. that's more of a strategy thing that it is a practical thing in terms of how having removed. you can in a case where georgia showed themselves to be incredibly biased towards a particular party. seek to have them removed if they're not going to recuse themselves. i think one of the chief argument in this case would be, number one, that judge cannon is a trump appointee. number two, the fact that she's appointee and she's repeatedly shown herself to give rulings, one of which, for example, during the investigation, pretty indictment she was even reversed, on in favor of donald trump. does tend to show that there's a certain level of bias there that the public should be concerned about. >> in any event though, charles, to the rules on how classified information can and cannot be used in a trial, does that naturally lend themselves to delays? >> not necessarily. i think we are talking about here, not only those rules in those classifications, but also the volume. you're really talking about a high volume of documents which have to be reviewed. and which will be considered in terms of what is shown to the jury, and made available and how those mechanisms take place. there is a mechanism in the law in trial, in criminal trials, for how to deal with these sorts of documents, so, it does there is a required plan the prosecutors will have to lay out that the defense will then agree to or disagree to end the judge with an approved. so, i think that it's important to understand that it's not just a classifications, it's also the volume, and what documents the prosecutors will seek to introduce, that will play a factor in terms of how long this actually takes. >> here's a head-scratcher on a different topic, alaska but the colorado judge's ruling on the 14th amendment. she ruled donald trump can be on the delegate ballot, there but says he engaged in insurrection. the judge said the wording of section three of the 14th amendment does not apply specifically to the office of president. are you surprised by this? >> alex, ultimately, i'm not. i think that most people, or many people for that matter, would agree that donald trump did, in some fashion, engage an insurrection, i think the question ultimately comes down to, if it's not defining explicitly in the constitution as to what the standard is that would be necessary in order to remove someone from the ballot. how can we at this point in time, during the unprecedented nature of former president who is now a candidate in an election season, facing criminal charges, remove this person from the ballot. i've said, for a very long time, that there is the political lens in the legal lens through which this has to be examined. and i did not expect that he was going to be removed, and this is proven me, ray had jack smith, for example chosen to indict him on insurrection or seditious conspiracy, not saying that he should have, but had he done, so he had been convicted, we would be having a very different conversation. but because he's not facing any criminal charges, it's a very difficult bar to meet. >> let's take a look at the georgia criminal case against trump, the judge issued that protective order for evidence. prosecutors deemed sensitive, and that came after a videos released showing three defendants who took plea deals, giving up the goods in interviews with prosecutors including this bombshell from former trump legal spokesperson, jenna ellis. >> he said to me, in a kind of excited tone. well, we don't care. we're not gonna leave. i said, what do you mean? he said, well, the boss, meaning president trump, the boss is not gonna leave under any circumstances. we are just gonna stay in power. and i said him, well, doesn't quite work that way you realize? he said, we don't care. >> is there a public interest case to be made for this type of information? is there greater danger to having it come out before trial? >> alex, one of things i love talking about two, we can be honest with each other. and cover-up winter different topics, when it comes to this. the prejudice to the actual trial, given the nature and severity of it, is going to outweigh the public's interest in having this information before the trial. once the information comes out a trial, that is a very different conversation, but for anyone who's interested in the notion of justice and securing a fair and impartial trial, to see justice served you do not want this information coming out in advance. it makes the road to actually trying the case far more challenging and much more difficult. it's to preserve the integrity of the justice system, this stuff has to stay under wraps until and unless it comes out a trial. >> charles coleman, thank you so much, my friend, good to see you. it is an article you made of missed, with chilling headline. how the next republican president could stop most abortions without congress. that's next. that's next. in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart, efficient, savvy. making the most of every opportunity. that's why comcast business is introducing the small business bonus. for a limited time you can get up to a $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. yep, $1000. so switch to business internet from the company with the largest fastest reliable network and that powers more businesses than anyone else. learn how you can get $1000 back for your business today. comcast business. powering possibilities. new today, nbc news exclusive report on two different letters sent out by the biden white house. with separate messages to pro israeli and pro palestinian americans. joining me now, nbc's jonathan allen, who co authored this new report. welcome, john. let me read for everyone the crux of this from your article, one letter emphasizes biden t fo israel against the pure evil of terrorism, the other focuses on the administration's work to protect civilians in gaza. what more can you tell us about this? and you did hear white house explanation? right? >> absolutely. good afternoon, alex. i think what's going on here, the white house says it's not unheard of, occasionally, they have very complex issues they'll have multiple versions of a letter they want to make sure that they're showing respect to the views of the letter writers. the situation here you don't usually see this kind of divergent emphasis. i spoke to somebody who worked in a prior administration, in the correspondence office, which is the one that responds to the lette

Related Keywords

Someone , Defense , Conspiracy , Cheating Thing , United States , Reality , Taiwan , Something , Pandas , Doesn T , Challenge , Love Pandas , California , Washington , Everybody , Instrument , Diplomacy , Youth , Chinese , Thing , Nod , Course , Point Of View , Right , Kids , Tenor , Chip , Zoo , Eli , Decision , Headline , Capitol Hill , Security Concerns , House Republicans , Highlights , 14th Amendment Fight , Colorado , Democrats , 14 , 2024 , Wall , Biden T Fo Israel , Israel Hamas War , Everyone , Alex Witt , Military , News , Rocket Fire Lighting , Night Sky , Israel Gaza Border , Msnbc World Headquarters , New York , People , Southern Gaza , Effort , Hostages , Thousands , Resolution , Military Offensive , Massive March In Jerusalem , Hamas On October 7th , 200 , Lot , Jay Gray , Phase , Military Operations , Start , Home , Tel Aviv , October 7th , 7 , Question , South , Hamas , War , Mission , Airstrikes , 24 , Some , Portion , Fighting , Idf , Areas , Forces , Gaza City , Situation , Point , Tens Of Thousands , School , Hit , Dozens , Urging , Aid , Quote , Area , Safe , Harm S Way , Well In , Reporter , Update , Beirut , Rafah , Republicans , Mike Johnson , Capitol , Breaking News , Latest , North , Ved , Trove Ofjanuary 6th Capitol Riot Footage , Theu , Afr , 6 , Saying , Video , Access , Ryan Riley , Justice System , Nbc , Book Sedition Hunters , Posting , 40000 , January 6th , Footage , Concerns , Evacuation Routes , Concern , One , Fact , Senators , Lawmakers , Attack , Locations , On January 6th Itself , Criminals , Speaker , Portions , Investigators , Faces , Notion , Fbi , Tips , Sedition Hunters Community , Doxxed , Videos , Officer , On X , Downplaying , Misinformation , Figures , Twitter , Where Officers Aren T , Capitol On January 6th , Rioters , Being , Weapons , Finger , Assault , Mob , West Side , Violence , Country , Severity , Sort , Threat , Conspiracy Theories , Base , It Wouldn T , Theoretically , Antifa , Two , Wasn T , Tanya Chutkan , Last , Bad , Trial , Order , Election , Donald Trump , Set , Ruling , Demand , Mentions , Inteerence , January 6th Incide , Three , Indictment , Audiotape , Matter , Jurors , Instructions , Case , Part , Group , Power , Jack Smith , Connection , Didn T , Book , Crowd , Jonathan Carl ,

© 2025 Vimarsana