this evening, president biden this evening, president biden is at camp david,■ç calling to nbc news reporting that he's discussing the future of his presidential campaign with family members. the president has come under fire for his feeble performance at last week's debate, several newspapers and the editorial boards have called for him to step aside. so far, most democratic lawmakers have kept their criticisms private. meantime, the conservative dominated supreme court is set to wrap up it's a controversial term tomorrow morning with a ruling on of the sessions most consequential's cases, they will determine whether or not former president trump enjoys constitutional immunity.■ç at a time when he's already been convicted of 34 felonies in new york, and is still facing three more criminal cases. republicans have vowed to stand by their candidate regardless of the extent of his legal liabilities, joining me now is democratic congresswoman mckayla williams from georgia. thank you for coming on tonight. >> thank you for having this important discussion, always happy to talk. >> let's start with the fresh nbc reporting on president biden according to the story, there's an understanding upon among top democrats that biden should be given space to determine next steps. they believe only the president in consultation with his family can decide whether to move forward or to end his campaign earlier. in spite of this, your hometown paper, the atlanta journal- constitution joined the unit times -- new york times calling on biden to step aside, we spoke to the dnc chair, jamie harrison yesterday and he says he's not hearing from voters or from party members that biden should go. what are you hearing? >> reverend, i'm glad that they don't get to decide who becomes president, that's up to the vote arms -- voters of the state, i don't recall them asking donald trump to drop out after he tried to overthrow the 2020 elections, i don't remember the ajc telling him to drop out■ç when he literally asked for 11,780 votes to overturn georgia's results. the ajc still was silent when donald trump was convicted of 34 felony counts, so now we have president joe biden who's done a tremendous job, he had a bad debate night, i'm not going to negate that. we all saw it, 3.5 years i was there for all of them in congress, i know the transformational work he's done, the voters of georgia that i'm hearing from in my district and state, we are staying behind our president as long as he's on the ballot, joe biden will get our votes and we will do everything we can to make sure we defeat donald trump once again. >> i have personally spoken ■ço and said that biden's debate performance was disappointing. i will not let that overshadow the fact that trump use the debate to lie to his teeth. i was not -- i was troubled by biden who appeared to look like he finished one or two sentences, i was more alarmed by the sentences trump did complete. >> reverend al, this is not about style, it's about substance. who do you want the policies, we had four years of a record from both candidates and i stand behind president joe biden and the paulus these he's enacted every day of the week. he has a plan for working families, not dividing our country and taking us ■pack to the past. we have donald trump who is bragging and said that overturning roe v. wade was a great thing, we have a president in joe biden who is waiting and willing to have a democratic congress to send him the reproductive freedom -- women's reproductive health fact so he can codify roe v. wade. we have a clear contrast, i'm not going to allow 90 minutes on the debate stage to negate what i've seen and known president biden to do over the 3 1/2 years i've been serving as a member of congress. president biden showed up to my watch party with the democratic party in georgia following the debate, and talks to every person in the room to -- everyone who wanted a picture, then went to north carolina ■ça had a rally with a 7ebig crowd some orders that showed up the next morning for a rally in north carolina where he was strong and forceful and -- >> the point that i think people are most honed in on in your home state of georgia, where trump is due to stand trial for trying to overturn the 2020 election, there is seemingly no end to the depths of deception, i've been reading the stories about rocky jones, the owner of the barbershop who says he got tripped into -- tricked into holding a trumpet event, now his business is suffering. i don't think anyone's business should be targeted for politics, is it honesty of the real election in this campaign? i preach this morning in north carolina, people saying wait ■ç minute, trump said the black jobs, what's a black job? migrants are coming to take black jobs, we are not ceos or entrepreneurs, we are not media executives, we do the jobs that he's claiming that migrants do just like he calls african countries in haiti sl countries. the racism he's gotten away with is unimaginable in these times. >> my black job right now is saving democracy, that's why i'm standing with my president, joe biden to make sure we continue to have conversations with people all over the state and country to remind them of work we've done, what we cannot forget is donald trump has shown us who he is, he's a failed former president who has been indicted, convicted, he's ç been impeached. also, if you look back to his past like think about when the now exonerated -- once known as the central park five, he calls them the executed. this man has shown us who he is time and time again, that's why it's imperative we come together and realize what's at stake, and re-elect president joe biden. >> i might add the exonerated five case of central prop five i worked on, that was the only racial involved case in new york that he ever opened his mouth about in 40 years, he never stood up on any cases where blacks were the victims, he bought newspaper ads that call upon the death penalty and had -- every other race case inç the last four years, and i've never seen a black executive in the trump organization at the top of the executive parts of that company, it is hard to be in business and not do business with black business people in new york. >> let's not forget -- >> i'm running out of time, the conservative dominated the prame court, congresswoman which has extended it session beyond the usual end date set for its last date, a ruling on presidential immunity which is vertical to criminal cases against former president trump moving forward, before the election, he cannot do it here because this court has held up its decision until now, including the case in georgiqç. what are your thoughts about what is at stake in this immunity decision and many other controversial the seasons -- decisions we've seen from the high court? >> regardless of the ruling, it will not change fax that donald trump is already convicted of 34 felony counts, convicted, not just charged, we've seen everything he's done, we understand what's at stake, this man said he would be a dictator on day one, when people show you who you are, we should believe them. that's why the american people rejected donald trump and his self obsessed quest for power, that's why we need to do it and re-elect president biden because we are about ■çmoving this country forward, not taking us back to a time donald trump wants to take us to so that he can be that dictator day one. it does not matter what happens or what the supreme court does, we still understand our job at hand. >> thank you, congresswoman nikema williams. now to a new cbs online survey of registered voters taking two days after the first presidential debate on thursday. it finds that the number of americans who think president biden has the mental and cognitive fitness to run for president has fallen eight points from earlier this month, the number of you think that he has risen seven., we should till within the margin of error and any -- it will believe to take more time before we fully engage the impact of the debate, joining me now to talk about it is ryan wiggins, chief of staff for the lincoln project and basil -- a political analyst, digging into the numbers. black democrats are the strongest supporters of biden's candidacy. we know from pulling from the key voting block of lax has -- wavered since 2020. do you think that biden's debate performance will cause more problems with black voters, especially young men? >> you know, i think as the congress members that are leader, we ■çsaw that consensus if you are a black voter that wants to see your president fight for you, maybe you did not get that in the way that you wanted to hear it the other day. i think that the day after, in north carolina and particularly being introduced by a teacher who had his student loans are given who was african-american tells voters what they need to know as the congresswoman said, he has a record, joe biden has a record that involves working in communities of color and delivering -- for black and brown communities, when you put that up against the alternative , donald trump who said that he's open to the idea or pitch he's open toiidea of migrants f each other like gladiators be able to stay in this country, that tells you everything you need to know. i do think even if there is some softness in the first couple of days, those numbers will turn around as we get no serve both to the convection and election as -- convention, as the choices become more clear. if you are watching that debate, all joe biden needed to do was stand there for 90 minutes and if you listen to donald trump's lies, he would still come out of it are based on the kind of person that we all know that donald trump has been and has said that he would be. >> the poll also finds a majority of democrats and independents were not inspired by either candidate, 20% of republicans shared the same ■ç sentiment. the number reminiscent of the voter share that nikki haley was receiving in some of the later gop primaries, the debate made it harder for biden to get the votes of wavering republicans? >> there's only two things on the ballot, that's democracy versus fascism. as far as i'm can turned, biden -- as far as i'm concerned, he could not have done anything that would remove me from his voting race, i'm voting for him and encourage everyone else, my good and colleague, sue stevens came out with an op-ed in the new york times that countered their peace, çwhat he said and that was looked, what are you supposed to be the most angry about lexi his job record, the economy is booming, what has he done that makes you not confident, one of the things that i can absolutely tell you is that trump is the same person today as he was before he took the stage, a , convicted felon, a liar, and he's tried to overthrow our government, he's a narcissistic sociopath and i would take an old man with a cold over someone with a dictator kink any day. >> let's go to the road ahead, the supreme court is expected to deliver his ruling tomorrow on trump's claims of absolute immunity from prosecution on charges related to his actions on january 6th,■ç then we have the fourth of july, a week later, trump was expected to be sentenced after his conviction of 34 felony counts in a hush money trial in manhattan, do you think these events will overshadow the debate, will we be discussing biden's performance a month from now? >> i don't think we will be discussing the performance a month from now in any way -- from what you said, donald trump will be sentenced coming up soon, we will know what the supreme court says tomorrow about immunity, i think that also adds to the larger narrative that democrats can put into the field about why donald trump would be unfit as a president. what -- one of the things i wanted to hear from joe biden iç any time that donald trump said he would do something, i would love joe biden to turn around and say how will you do that from prison? there is a possibility that whether it's at home or behind bars, he will be confined. to me, the evidence against his fitness for office just piles up day in and day out, it it isolates him when you compare him to the kind of agenda that both joe biden as a candidate and democrat collectively are putting forward for the country, then when you layer on top of that the supreme court and that based on the decision, the specter that donald trump could have more power as president■ç to exact retributio and retaliation, that's got to scare every voter especially that six to 7% of independent voters that made a side of the selection. >> by the way, even if trump does not get jail, or home incarceration. if he gets probation, he will have to report to a parole officer every time he makes a trip out of the state of new york, i would have asked him if he was -- when i ran for president, did your parole officer agreed for you to come to atlanta tonight? the day after the debate, trump addressed calls for biden to step down. stick a dozen -- take a listen. >> many people are saying after last night's performance, the joe biden is leaving the race. the fact is that i don't really believe that, because he ■çdoes better in polls than any of the democrats that they are talking about, these polls, with some of the names like gavin newsom, he cannot run california and is one of the worst governors. >> if democrats were to try and switch candidates, how would that play with gop voters who want to vote against trump, would they change or accept the change, would democrats need to reconvene and re-convince them to vote? how would that play out, even the mechanics of that is so complicated isn't it? >> i think you have to look, one of the strongest messages that democrats have going into the cycle, you don't want to vote for an authoritarian then you say we will have a convection0-í■ convention when we are putting in someone else that americans did not have a chance to vote for, it gives republicans an attack, it's not on me or my organization to decide what they do, what we do is we kick the heck out of trump, regardless of what happens into the candidate is, the lincoln project is here to come at him with a crowbar, we will take any, sweep the knee and lay him out, regardless of what happens, we have got the democratic nominees back because trump cannot be president of this country ever again. >> thank you, ryan wiggins and basil smikle. coming up, as we gear up for the fourth of july, i'm calling on all americans to take ■ça stand as the uses between two very different versions of patriotism, i will explain after a short break. tion. where there is one, others aren't far behind. always scavenging for food, the cockroach... well that's horrifying. ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier. one application kills and prevents bugs for 365 days. not in my house you don't. nature is wild. your home doesn't have to be. in our family there was a passion for glass making that's passed down through the generations. we stood on some pretty broad shoulders to get to where we are at today. on ancestry i was able to actually put together our family tree. each person is a glass worker. that's why we do what we do. we can't help it. the glass blowing - that's a part of our dna. it's in my blood, it's in my history. it's my job to make sure that this shop makes it to the next generation. 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