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into a christian perspective. here he is. >> the thing, you know, at root that we think about is not only christ sacrificing himself on our behalf but it is also the golden rule, you know, treat others the way you want to be treated. >> the golden rule, we all learned it, right, treat others the way you want to be treated. you're a christian man. does that resonate with you, what he said? >> if the golden rule increase ignites with me but not to contradict other things jesus said and he said in matthew 19 that marriage is between one man and one woman. you don't use that rule to skip the institution. god defines what marriage is. society is supposed to implement his definition. when it creates new definitions, it creates chaos. it is written law. whoever owns the family owns the future. we must fight for the family from a biblical standpoint particularly if you say you're a christian christ should have the last word. >> i understand you're a man of god and go by what is in the bible and you have someone like representative barney frank and acknowledged gay member of congress. he is speaking about the president raising gay marriage. here he is. >> i think about 15-year-olds in school somewhere being picked on and bullied and now the president of the united states said, you know what, you're assist important as anybody else and you have the same right as anybody else and it has enormous impact. >> he is essentially saying this stance will now help persuade people. i know you cannot speak for an entire community but from our own opinion do you think that you could be persuaded by the president making this defiant stand? >> well, i think the persuasion ought to go the other way. i think we need to work harder in persuading the president to reverse his reversal back to a biblical frame of reference. it is non-necessity goesh ashl. god has spoken on the issue. there is god's answer and everybody else's and everybody else is wrong when they disagree with him. he is inex trickably clear. this is not only hurtful to the cause of christ and the faith but to the well-being of society. i would agree bashing people, miss streeting people, is wrong. >> how is it hurtful? >> it is an institution. >> how is it hurtful to the well-being of society in your opinion? >> well, first of all, when you look at the african-american community and how it is being decimated with the breakdown of the family, we need to get back to the family the way it was intended to be, not create other nuances that are against god because we have enough problems as it is within our community. in addition to that, when god created marriage, he created it not only for companionship but proceed creation. that can't happen unless it is a heterosexual union. god has this mapped out. >> i am listening to every word you said. when you say nuance i can hear folks saying nuance, are you saying men and men and women and women in a loving relationship can't further strengthen the african-american community with love and children, et cetera? you say no. >> they can't do it in a way that's acceptable to the creator. he says no. i am only repeating what he says, and he is not offered all of these fwtwists and turns everybody wants to have. we should love people regardless of where they come from but we're talking about an institution. you cannot redefine god's institution without expecting there will be breakdowns when you do that. >> there are also, reverend, seems to be a perception black opposition of same sex marriage is monolithic and i am not sure that's true. we have been going through the polls and this poll shows acceptance of same sex marriage has grown steadily among blacks but it is growing, and this is a poll taken just last month and you can see opposition to gay marriage if you flip to the next one, 66%, 66 in '96 and here you have 49% now. it is growing, and it is not even a majority now. you have 39% of blacks favoring gay marriage and one more thing i want to get in. this is a tweet from newark, new jersey, cory booker, and he says he was asked some sort of to give a statement on the president's gay marriage announcement from yesterday and he tweets, i told them i would give them one once i stopped dancing. really, my last question to you, reverend, is do you fear being marginalized by your position that this opposition, this institution, this belief because of what is in the bible and the creator who you very much so fervently believe in, this opposition to gay marriage? >> i am not concerned about marginalization at all. i am supposed to stay with him even if i am in the minority. i have to stand before him, number one, and he has orchestrated government. government is not a human institution. it is a define institution that humans are to run on his behalf. when they create their own rules they become against the creator and what he intended for government to do. >> thank you for sharing your perspective. we really appreciate it. now a lot more to cover. watch. the feds say a group of white supremecists were preparing for a race war and they say they were training near disney world. i am brooke baldwin. the news is now. zip, zero, z il ch, that is how much half the country is saving for retirement. i know. it is disturbing. where do you stand? plus, he certainly got experience speaking off the cuff, but how angry really is the white house at vice president joe biden for tipping the president's hand on same sex marriage? much half the country is saving marriage? neo-nazis training for a race war miles from the happiest place on effort. they are facing charges at this hour. according to investigators the af is a domestic terrorist group that believe a race war is inevitable and here is where they're accused of training to kill jews, immigrants, other minorities, and this is a back woods compound, all of 11 miles from walt disney world near orlando. three of these suspected white supremecists appeared in court tuesday. they were considered so dangerous they were kept in cages and away from other inmates. want to bring in john following this investigation for us today. john, do we have any details about what exactly the group was thinking they were going to pull off? >> clearly by what the court documents say there is no question that they believed that there was an impending imminent race war and they were preparing for that and turned the compound that you showed literally into a fortress and according to the court documents, one of the leaders, marcus fiella, actually was attempting to make ricen, considered a weapon of mass destruction and they were also, he and his wife patricia and the followers talking about some sort of disturbance they wanted to create at the orlando city hall in order to gain attention for their group because they believed the media attention would attract new followers to the group. now, they're both now out on bond and reporters caught up with them. patricia, of course, denied all of this. >> i don't consider myself a racist. it looks like we're being persecuted for our politics and we're out here. just because some things do make us uncomfortable but we're not wanting to bother anybody else. we just want to be left alone. >> she added, look, why don't you wait and at the end of the day when everybody r everything comes out you will see we're not who they say we are. >> how did they get caught? >> how did they get caught? an informant was undercover for almost two years from middle of 2010 up until just a couple of weeks ago when that informant got very nervous because he said that marcus fiella threatened to kill anybody who if he found out that they were informants, so immediately this informant went to the police and that's when they began to move in on the group. >> this compound 11 miles from of all places disney world. john, thank you e. more than 100 million tons of trash sent to landfills in the u.s. each and every year, but a florida man helping the environment by making a fashion statement with garbage in this week's solutions. he is making garbage fashion ablg. in 2004 he started ecoist, turning waste into products like handbags, jewelry and home accessories. they get rolls of discontinued wrappers or labels from company that is would otherwise throw them away and it takes 60 to 200 candy wrappers to make one handbag. >> our estimate is that we have saved about 40 million wrappers from going to land hills. >> we start with this one. >> marco's mother created the designs for many bags and the company employs women in peru to make them by hand. >> there is a lot of love that goes into these products. we're targeting people that appreciate the fact that we treat our workers fairly and give them the opportunity to make progress. >> ecoist is expanding pairing up with artists to create designs from different waste materials. >> there is so much waste that amazing raw material, that's unique, that is free, and it creates an amazing statement. >> this minute the prosecution finishing up its case against john edwards and instead of hearing from rielle hunter, the mistress here, we're hearing how badly john edwards wanted to be vice president. a fer rar i stunt back fires and goes horribly wrong and we have the video and the backlash. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the video and the backlash. ♪ more news unfolding. rapid fire, roll it. >> first up, we now know about this u.s. drone strike that's now killed eight militants connected to al qaeda in southern yemen. today's attack targeted a convoy of senior leaders in a militant network and security officials said the drone strike was followed by strikes by yemen's air force and just a short time ago we heard from defense secretary leon panetta addressing this particular strike at today's defense briefing. here he is. >> we will continue to take all of the steps necessary to try to go after those who would threaten our country and threaten the safety of american people. >> newly elected russian president vladimir putin won't be attending the summit at camp david. he called president obama to say he needs to finalize his cabinet and the prime minister will attend in his place. putin and obama shown here, a 2009 meeting in moscow. the white house says they will meet next month around the g-20 summit in mexico. ferrari, skidmarks, a landmark where this car is skidding and doing doughnuts on top of a 600-year-old city wall in china, all part of a p.r. stunt that back fired big time, offended the chinese and can couldn't get the tread marks up off this landmark. ferrari says it is sorry for the damage. and now we have breaking news here in the world of weather. go to chad myers. we're talking texas and tornado warnings. >> right. a couple of tornados on the ground. small tornados on the ground. if you're in corporate us chris and i south of corpus christi, the north padre island, we're seeing rotation and not far from chapman ranch and there are people in condo that is run through here at north padre island and back towards the northwest we're talking about a little farther to the north near campbellton and this form right there, brooke, live oaks moving and wet set a little storm and pawnee seeing rotation and small tornados nout but they could be bigger as the day goes on and could be significant. if there is anything on the ground significant we'll certainly run right on you here. >> no damage yet. >> no damage yet, just to farm land and a couple small tornados reported by spotters and nothing any houses and no homes at all. >> let us know if that changes. hopefully it won't. nasa today making a big announcement. it has scientists and us, folks like chad and i very excited, plus potentially big news if you pay mortgage or may soon be paying a mortgage, there are new rules involving extra costs. this is the smith family. we asked them to bring in their favorite dvds because we want to show them something new. you guys ready? 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[siri] if you say so. here is a disturbing finding. half of all americans saved z il ch for retirement and something new in space. time to play reporter roulette. tell me about this new report discovering that many americans saving goose egg for retirement. >> goose egg. >> why? >> na da. it is mostly young people that aren't saving anything. this is 56% of 18 to 34-year-olds and as you said they're not saving a dime for retirement. this coming from the financial trade association that actually looked at what the contributions looked like for their iras and 401(k)s and there was nothing in them and it is unfortunate. when you're young, it is the time to save. look at this. if you go ahead and save $200 a month starting around 25 years old, and let's say you earn about 7% a year, you'll have about a half a million dollars by the time you're 65 years old if you wait until you're 35 and you start saving the $200, have you less than half as much by the time you hit 65. you only have 235,000, so you know the lesson here, start saving early and save often, brooke. >> from saving to paying, people paying mortgages or preparing to pay a mortgage, there is new pesky fees being considered. do tell. >> looking to throw some of these fees out. when you apply for a mortgage, so much is lost in the fine print. if these new rules get the okay, you know, it may make the whole process easier. the new rules would be coming from the consumer financial protection bureau. it would keep mortgage brokers and loan officers charging you a fee based on the amount of the loan. that's how it is done now. if these changes go through, it would be a flat fee. this was really a big deal because it was seen as one of the more predatory practices. if loan officers could push you into more and ens sif loans, they make bigger commissions. that would be thrown out. a huge win for consumers. the second and final thing, the other change, home buyers, usually pay what are called points to lower their interest rate on their loan and in the past paying for those points didn't always translate to a lower interest rate even though it should have. guess what? now that lower interest rate will be spelled out in the documents and also these changes will help you be able to kind of weigh the options and find the best deal for yourself just because you will be able to delineate where the fees are coming from. keep our fingsz crossed the changed will go through, brooke. >> consider them crossed. thank you. next to chad myers in the discovery that nasa scientists say they found something unlike anything else they have seen in the solar system. >> correct. an astroid that never broke up. it is in the astroid belt that's not coming to the earth but it is an blake sphere oid. what does that mean? >> oblate. it was round enough and molten enough it became a sphere and not just an old rock that doesn't have form to it. this is now spinning around and not hitting the earth because the earth's orbit is here. mars is here. the astroid belt is way outside here. give you an idea, mars, mercury, moon, sears, and it is a rock formed with iron in the middle which is important, that means at some point in time it was melting and melted and it is 4.5 billion years old, one of the oldest things they have ever found and pulverized for 4.5 billion years and none of the crust is even left here. this is a bottom right here. that's the bottom. you can't tell because it is so old. that is a crater, a crater that lost so much dust into the astroid belt and that debris could fill 1,000 grand canyons with all the stuff that was knocked off of this oblique sphereoi d. >> use that in the dinnertime conversation. work it in. i dare you. next, news just in. we'll go straight to north carolina for this. we know the prosecution wrapped its case against john edwards. since his trial started back on april 23rd jurors have seen his daughter walk out in tears, his ex donor call him sick and evil and they won't be seeing his ex mistress rielle hunter despite the fact she is the reason he allegedly misused his campaign funds as he ran for president. instead, jurors were told edwards tried to snag a seat on the highest court in the land once he knew the oval office was out of reach. what happened today, joe? >> reporter: brooke, as you said, the government rested its case, about 14 days now of testimony here in greensboro, north carolina, the last thing the government did before resting the case is pretty interesting. they played a tape of an interview with john edwards on abc's night line from august of 2008. this is a very famous interview, infamous if you will because during that interview john edwards admitted this celebrated relationship with his mistress rielle hunter but did not admit to fathering a child with her and as we all know, he did in fact father a child with her and later admitted to that. so they played that tape apparently to show the kinds of lies john edwards told on television. that was the last thing the jury saw and heard. interesting, i saw hands and faces and hands and hands over mouths and the jury and people paying a lot of attention to that. now what's next, the jury is not coming back tomorrow because the government and the defense are going to get together with the judge. the judge is also going to hear a motion to have this case dismissed because the defense is going to take the traditional position that the evidence has not proven the guilt of john edwards on any of a number of the counts in this indictment. we're expecting that to go on pretty much in the morning tomorrow. traditionally and typically judges don't grant these motions and so the expectation is that they will begin with some kind of defense case on monday, brooke. >> here is my follow-up question for you, i guess, joe. that is there is a lot of surprise that this ex mistress, rielle hunter, the reason allegedly that edwards is accused of miss using the campaign funds and would have had prosecutor to herral immunity had she testified. why not? >> well, she has been deemed by a lot of people who have actually taken the stand assist a potentially volatile witness. she has been called crazy, apparently in some of the testimony that's come out, even john edwards has said she is increase, so there are some people who are just a little bit concerned about what she would say even though both the defense and the prosecution have said in documents that they think she could help their case. the government decided not to put her on, and of course we have asked the defense whether they plan to put rielle hunter on. they haven't responded to those questions at all. a lot of guessing here at the courthouse that rielle hunter is just not going to he show up, brooke. >> joe johns, day in and day out reporting on the ins and outs of this trial. thank you so much. fbi agents right now digging up the yard of a reputed mobster looking for stole loan artwork with to the tune of $500 million. this involves one of america's most famous unsolved heists. it is ju

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