>> you don't even make the choice to be gay. i mean, when did they catch on problem with science? does mitt romney have the momentum? no better person to ask than >> tonight, i'll talk strategy with mitt romney's son josh romney and a heated conversation with former candidate michele bachmann, the views on rush limbaugh and gay marriage and kurt cameron and lewis black weighs in. >> you don't even make the choice to be gay. i mean, when did they catch on to that? why do they not -- what is their problem with science? >> but our big story is super tuesday. does mitt romney have the momentum? no better person to ask than josh, josh romney joins me. welcome. >> thanks for having me on. >> my pleasure. tell me the mood in the romney family camp. >> you know, i think we are pretty excited about how things are looking so far. we have a lot of momentum heading in to super tuesday. that's what it's all about is picking up the right number of delegates and looks like things are pointing in the right direction for us tomorrow to pick up a lot of delegates. >> the key one would appear to be ohio and the latest poll out just now says that a dead split, 32% for you, your father and for rick santorum. what do you make of that? how important strategically is winning ohio? >> you know, we would like a win. we don't need a win by any means and we are just hoping to pick up a lot of delegates and that's the key to pick up the delegates and ride the numbers up. >> is your father a bit frustrated with the pace of his campaign? i mean, does he feel like he takes two steps forward and two back and been a real uphill battle and not expecting it? >> no. i think we expected it to be just like. we weren't sure who was the final three or two to come down to but we knew it would be a tight race and prepare to be in for the long haul and why from the very beginning we set out to put a long-term campaign in place to raise enough money to compete through march, april, may and, you know, continue to slog this out and this is what we expected. so not a lot of surprises. >> one of the issues that your father's had, because i've interviewed him a couple of times and your mother who's delightful and come across to me as very personable, charming, nice guy. all the rest of it. and yet, he seems to have a problem -- i mean, you or may not agree with this. relating to the average american voter. why do you think this is? why do you think they're not getting the real mitt romney do you think? >> i think he is not on the "piers morgan" show enough. that's part of the problem. >> i couldn't agree more. >> yeah. no. as i talk to voters and go to places i just came from north dakota and people who saw him, i came just after he did a revent there. people said we could not believe how passionate he was, how connected we were to him so i think as people see and hear him and see what he stands for, that's not the case. and we see that in the state that is he's competed best in, people get to know who he is, feel connected to him, see he's a who who can turn the economy around. they recognize he's a good businessman and the guy to beat president obama next november. >> the biggest charge against him is always he's flip flopper. what do you as his son make of that? >> you know what? people are going to throw labels at you. that works for john kerry and people who know my dad and know him well know he's a man of true character, true principle and know that he sticks to his positions. he really does understand, you know, the issues that we face. and what the real solutions are. he brings a different perspective than inelse in the race right now, and i would say incredibly consistent. you look at the way he lives his life. governed the state of massachusetts. married for 42 years now and family is important and central thing in his life and keeps his grounded and principled. >> you yourself become a bit of a media star culminating in a stunning appearance on "saturday night live." let's watch a little clip of this, josh. >> mitt romney's five adult sons. why should people get excited and not terrified by the presence on the campaign trail? >> well, we connect with the younger voter. our average age is 36 and the median age is 35. and we like the same things as young people, such as sport. cinema and duop. see? we're just like you, america. >> i mean to be fair, josh, doing me two weeks ago, bore no relation to the real thing. i want to make it absolutely clear. >> yeah. you know, i think it's funny. it's so true. you know? i'm going to have to -- i tweeted out that i'm going to have to throw away the blue shirt and khaki outfit. i can't wear it on the campaign trail anymore. it's funny. you have to be able to laugh at yourself and you develop a thick skin. i think it's easier to laugh at methane my dad. it's tougher when they attack your dad, particularly the media. "snl" is fun. >> thank you very much. best of luck in super tuesday. >> thank you, piers. thank you very much. i appreciate it. michele bachmann made a run for white house but suspended the campaign. i'm trying to get her on the show for a last year. finally. >> here we are. >> lured you in to my lair. >> be happy. >> i am. >> be happy. >> why did you resist me for so long? >> i haven't resisted your charms at all. i had a full dance calendar. >> tell me about the reality of being a presidential candidate. it's incredibly hard work. >> it is, it is. i have tremendous respect for anyone in any party to do it. it's the most difficult thing i've ever done and i think the men in the race say the same thing. probably the most difficult thing they've ever done. physically it's very taxing. about 18 hours a day every day without a day off. and it's just one continual challenge. it's a marathon. >> super tuesday tomorrow. obviously, the big one for many of the candidates. what do you think? how do you reckon it plays out? a determining day do you think or with here in a month with things still undecided? >> my opinion is i think it will be a determining day because there's so many delegates up for grabs. about a third of delegates. ten different states. i think we'll be up virtually all night. alaska is involved, as well. i think highly determinetive. we may not know for sure the final result but i think we'll see a trend line that may take us to the end but actually, this is very typical of campaigns historically that they continue to go on. but i think that we'll know this spring who our nominee is. >> is it helpful or unhelpful the longer this goes on? there's two schools of thought. when president obama went up against hillary clinton it helped him and maybe when mitt romney prevails, it helps them to have a long battle tie process is very good. it is -- it literally beats the snot out of you if you will but that's a good thing because it's important for our nominee to be at the top of their game because there is no larger stage than debating the president of the united states. so they'll be well over 100 million people that watch those definitive debates. our nominee has to be ready to do that. they will be after this process. never forget hillary clinton and barack obama had a fairly bloody battle up until june of 2008 and i think that our nominee will be desooded my guess is probably before then. >> there are two key areas i would say tomorrow at super tuesday. one is a higher when rick santorum needs to win and if mitt romney wins that it's a major, major plus for him. newt gingrich has to win in georgia or otherwise his campaign is over. >> well, it looks fairly positive that newt gingrich will win florida and fairly --decisively. that's what the polls say and ohio is a very unique state. all roads to the white house travel through ohio. >> are you disappointed there's no bona fide tea party candidate left in the race? >> i'm very happy to get behind any of these candidates to have a unifying voice. we'll unify as a party. very shortly we'll be battening down the hatches whoever our standardbearer will be and happy to back that candidate and reach out to independents and disaffected democrats. we need a wide net to prevail in november. i'm confident our positive pro-growth, pro-job message will do that. >> my guess is if you sat down with dinner the person you're nodding with most is rick santorum. is that a misreading? >> i like rick santorum a lot and i like mitt romney and newt gingrich and ron paul. >> who do you most agree with? >> i think my opinions were fairly forthright throughout the debate and i felt i was the perfect candidate for america. but that didn't happen. and so, really, quite honestly, whichever candidate it is, i'll be happy to back. there are some issues that we are more alike on others with various candidates. i'm very strongly aligned with ron paul coming to the federal reserve and the economy. so i'm closely aligned with the candidates on different issues. >> disappointing there are no women in the final four, i think. >> i wish there was. i absolutely do. but i think that it was very important. our party fielded a woman and fielded an african-american as serious presidential candidates. i was the first republican woman ever to win the iowa straw poll. that had never happened before and i made some very important distinct contributions to this race. when i got in, our candidate said that they would issue waivers and executive orders on obama care. the's only one right answer now on obama care and it's full scale repeal. i'm the chief author of the bill to repeal obama care and the chief author of the bill to repeal dodd-frank. it wasn't an issue in the campaign. i made it an issue and now for our candidates they also will repeal dodd-frank. >> if you're so in the vanguard against obama care, presumably mitt romney is the least of the four candidates that you would personally endorse, right? because of his own health care plan not that different. >> that's the positive difference i made in the campaign. now mitt romney's answer is that he will get behind a full-scale repeal so no matter who our nominee is, they have all committed verbally to repeal of obama care and now it's up to us to hold our nominee's feet to the fire. >> let's take a little break and come back and talk to you about sex contraception and rush limbaugh. three words i hoped i'd never have to say on national television. >> then don't. >> announcer: this is the day. the day that we say to the world what does it say about the we're lifelock, and we believe you have the right to live free from the fear of identity theft. our pledge to you? as long as there are identity thieves, we'll be there. we're lifelock. and we offer the most comprehensive identity theft protection ever created. lifelock: relentlessly protecting your identity. call 1-800-lifelock or go to lifelock.com today. i am loving this greek yogurt. i like yoplait. it is yoplait. but you said it was greek. mmhmm. so is it greek or is it yoplait? 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what does that make her? it makes her an slut, right? >> that was rush limbaugh in his radio show last week blasting law student sandra fluke for arguing in favor of birth control health care. were you appalled by the rhetoric? >> what i thought at first is that this is a 3d example of what obama care is going to mean in every america's life from now on because essentially for the first time in the history of the country we have one person who will be a health care czar who will not only dictate what we get in health care but more importantly what we won't get in health care. that's going to be the future of health care in the united states. >> we're across purposes. that wasn't the question. >> i'm sorry. >> the question is what you thought of rush limbaugh calling this law student an slut and a prostitute. what did you make of that? i thought the most offensive thing on the air waves since i've been in america. >> rush issued an apology and he said that he was wrong because he descended to the level of those people he considers the critics. i think, again, when you look at the crux of this, i go back up to the 50,000-foot level. we kind of focus on what happened the last 24 hours or 72 hours. i'm looking forward to what obama care's going to look like for the average american and right now, this discussion has been about the federal government mandating that every woman has free contraceptives or free morning after abortion pills or free sterilizations. let me just say. obama care will never be about what benefits we're getting. it will be about what benefits government will take away. because there's simply not enough money to provide everything for everyone. so the big untold story is that some day people will be told you're not getting the rotate or the cuff surgery, you are not getting hip and knee replacements. that's the bigger story. we don't with tonight have politically correct surgeries and pharmaceuticals. politically correct diseases. those diseases are funded and other diseases don't. that's wrong. >> why so many republicans unwilling to call out rush limbaugh on what he was when he said those words which was disgusting? why can't you say what he said was disgusting and indefensible? >> i think there's people that weighed in on it but more importantly the people involved made an acknowledgment and that was rush limbaugh. he made his acknowledgment. >> apologized again today and mainly i suspect because advertisers are quitting in their droves. aol's quit on him today and losing money hand over fist. i found it extraordinary that the leading commentator on radio in america, conservative commentator says this about a young woman and nobody, i have to say -- >> i'll tell you. quite honestly, piers, i have gone through myself an experience more things said about me and i have never seen this level of outrage on the left about what left-leaning commentators said about me. no really. i mean, honestly. if you're a conservative woman, it seems like there's no level of vitriol beyond the pale. governor palin has been on the receiving end of it. you don't see this level of outranl and certainly don't see advertisers cutting back and i think that maybe that's what we should learn out of all of this. on both sides, we went to pay attention to what we're saying and more importantly, don't miss in the middle of this, this issue's about obama care and what it's going to mean for our lives. >> her battle, sandra fluke, to get the right to have birth control pill or other forms of prescription -- >> every woman has the right to get that. that's not -- >> to have it on health insurance plans. ideologically -- >> but it is. it's already available. see, what the difference is now one person, the president of the united states, has power to designate one particular drug or one particular service and at what price. that's phenomenal. that's never happened before. tomorrow the president of the united states could say, well, now, we are not going to allow a health insurance company to even sell contraceptives. we don't want any president to be able to have that kind of power. the president tomorrow could say, we only will pay for two births of babies for every woman for the hospital expensions. we don't want women -- i don't want to see women have one president or one individual be able to tell them what they can or can't have in health care. that's exactly what president obama is doing now. that's the level of power that he has and it's frightening. >> you are accusing the president of wanting to have some form of state control over people's sexual behavior. right? >> what i'm saying is that -- >> that's what the argument leads to. >> the president now has an unmitigated level of authority never before seen over health care and that's a maizing when you think one person -- we don't know how that power will be used. but we have seen it now. the president said for instance -- >> should women, you know, many, many women between the ages of 20 and 35 are sexually active and want to have birth control in america, millions, tens of millions, are they wrong to want that? just ideologically. >> right now, women have that right. they can have contraception if they want it but i want women to have that choice. not one government -- >> rush limbaugh's point was very, very clearly that he didn't want taxpayers and this was factually accurate, didn't want taxpayers to fund women like sandra fluke having contraception on their insurance plans. when he and i and you know it's the employer and insurance company that funds it. >> piers, we are looking at coming the point we'll be 16 trillion in debt this year and barack obama made it the highest priority to make sure that at no cost a certain drug is given to a certain part of the population. that's barack obama's highest priority. what about breast cancer drugs? women need that, too. but that's not given for free to women. think about that. >> yeah. >> that's what we're talking about. what's political salable? in collection years we'll see presidents in the future saying now i'm going to give you this procedure or this drug for free because it sells politically. i mean, come on, really. that we're going to? because that will come at a tremendous price, the cheapest way to have health care is all americans buy any health insurance policy they want anywhere in the united states, pay for it with their own tax free money and true medical malpractice reform. that's what barack obama should have done. he failed to do that. that's what we need to replace obama care with. we don't need socialized medicine. we need true free markets in health care because i want women to have access to health care in the best way to have access is lower the cost then they can choose whatever they want to have. >> okay. let's take a little break, come back and talk kirk cameron and homosexuality. >> you're up with a lot of interesting things today. progresso. it fits! fantastic! 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