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finalize the war. there is a diplomatic way, and there is the military way. so any healthy and sane person always chooses diplomatic way because he or she knows even if it's hard, it may stop the losses of thousands, of tens of thousands. and with such neighbors, hundreds of thousands and maybe millions of victims. victims, losses of people, we don't want that. and any leader, whether he wants that or not, he doesn't have the right to deny it subjectively because it will be a subjective decision to deny the diplomatic way. and it's also important for our partners, i may say, because we are constantly speaking about that and made certain step for the diplomatic solution of the military conflict and the war with russian federation, our partners, both european and the partners from beyond the oceans, the united states, canada, everybody sees that what russia says and was saying during all these times, that ukraine itself doesn't want to -- everybody could see it was the kind of peopling-up effect and e, and now if we manage to do that, the trust of our partners to us is the highest level. but there is no trust to russia. those are not synonyms. they're and anymores, russia and trust. because they're just saying something, and their words do not coincide with actions. and what about the security issues, he asked? just a second. >> so i don't remember the second part of your question. i'm not afraid of meeting with the president about the attempted murders. let's wait a bit. i don't have the right to be afraid. i don't have the right to be afraid because our people showed that they are not afraid of anything. they are afraid for their children. that's true. people were stopping with their bare hands and russian armament as well as our national guard did. there are lots of security measures here. >> doesn't it seem to you? >> but you will city know that you are in safety now. that is why if a normal leader doesn't have the right to be afraid when we are speaking about the state and about our independence. thank you. thank you. cgtm, right? the fourth row, please. >> yeah, cgtm. >> mr. president, you've emphasized already your readiness of the peaceful negotiations with russia, and the secretary-general of the u.n. is planning to visit moscow. we've also heard that the united states and the allies are sending arms and weapons. how can this weapon come to ukraine and simultaneously moscow says that you go on asking for military help and support from the nato member countries, that this help won't help the peaceful negotiations? could you comment on that? >> could you repeat the beginning of your question? >> from the very beginning. you said speaking about your readiness for the peaceful negotiations with russia, we know that the u.n. secretary-general will come to kyiv and moscow and will be speaking about the peaceful negotiations, and they say that the united states and their alliance are providing weapon to your country. but moscow is saying that your permanent requests of weapons only add fire to the situation, and this is only interfering the negotiations process. >> thank you for the question. of course we will meet the secretary-general, who will come to us, we'll communicate with him. it seems to me that we have done lots of steps for his position, also to change, and his position to be strong enough as for the support of ukraine. i had several personal meetings with him, and i am rather firm saying that you cannot balance between ukraine and russia. we are expecting for 100% support from the u.n. secretary-general, 100%, because 100% of truth is on our side and the war is taking place here. so i think that after the arrival, and if the secretary-general has time, i think that he has a very respectful status, he should definitely visit first the cities where there were tortures and where people were killed, and then he will find time for the esteemed and respectful colleagues from russia. it's important for him to understand what's happening here, to have a very precise perspective which the secretary-general can bring and deliver to moscow, meeting with the president of this state. because if we just come to kyiv and communicate, it's not enough. so consider that first of all you need to understand what is taking place here. that is why lots of leaders, both like chancellor of austria, i always offered if they go to russia, to moscow, first you should understand what is happening here. if you are speaking really about the help and support, not about political tourism. so i think he will see it here, and his opinion about ukraine will be even stronger. as for the weapon delivery to ukraine, weapons supply, we are definitely not interested in the opinion of russian federation, though they, since the beginning of war, were delivering it as well. you do remember the full-scale invasion, how they were fleeing, leaving the tanks. we are grateful for those deliveries. thank you. >> ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskiy there. i mean, in the midst of an invasion, an incredible display there, and a real first, an extraordinarily produced press conference taking place on a running subway platform there. scott mclean is in lviv. he's been watching it as we are too. scott, it's striking for a number of reasons because the president there is strongly advocating for talks with putin. and he used the words like only a healthy, sane person chooses diplomacy. so he's also challenging putin, challenging his mind-set to ask him to meet, you know, with him, essentially, in some sort of diplomacy to end this invasion. >> reporter: yeah, fredricka. if you listen to some of the questions from the ukrainian journalists at that press conference, they seem to imply quite heavily that perhaps putin is not in the correct mental state ands that why perhaps he is deciding to go ahead and launch this war despite the repercussions. i agree with you that what zelenskyy is saying in his desire for talks is certainly significant, especially since ukrainian officials have said in the past that some of the things that they've discovered that russia has done, especially in the suburbs of kyiv and some of the brutality there, has really dampened the -- has really dampened expectations for talks and dampened the willingness for the ukrainians to really engage in those talks, because at some point, as the foreign minister made clear today, you don't want to engage with terrorism. that's the word that he's using describing the most recent strikes on odesa as terror. and so it's really surprising to hear that zelenskyy is still very much open to talks, though it also sounds like he perhaps doesn't think that those talks will be easy or immediately bear much fruit. >> right. he's also acknowledging the continued danger that he's in. i mean, this press conference comes with great risk as well, right? you look at the room, there are a lot of journalists there, a lot of people there. the subway is in operation. but it sounds as though, we're hearing from him, that this is a risk he's willing to take because he sees real value in verbalizing, you know, his representation of this country under siege. >> reporter: yeah. certainly the risk has lessened since the outset of the war when he was traveling from underground bunker to underground bunker trying to stay on the move to limit the russians to target the building he was in. ask matthew chance and how difficult it was for him to link up with the president in the early days of war given all his movements and the secrecy around his location. clearly the danger in kyiv is still very much there but not the kind of danger that we've seen earlier. there are not tanks surrounding the city. there's not the risk of shelling or that type of thing. obviously, bombs are still very much a threat and still very much a potential, which is why they've chosen to have this press conference underground considering that they've invited the wider media and a lot of people. and obviously there's no way to keep that location secret. >> and ul all this taking place obviously there are cities throughout the country that continue to be targeted, strikes taking place most recently in odesa, in that port city. what can you tell us about that continued threat? >> reporter: yes, fredricka. the latest numbers we have are 5 dead, 18 wounded, according to the ukrainian president's office. of course they say there may be more, these are just the ones they know about. and what is especially sad about this is they say that a 3-month-old baby is among the dead and also consider for most ukrainians tomorrow is easter. that is not the kind of thing that anyone is going to be celebrating. we know that, according to again to the president's office, the strikes hit a military facility and two residential buildings. the ukrainians say that two missiles out of the six that were fired were actually struck down by the anti-missile defense system and two drones were also struck down as well. i mentioned the foreign minister had some comments in wake of this recent strike saying that the only point of strikes like this is to inflict terror on the population and that ukraine ought to consider russia a state sponsor of terrorism, which would mean cutting cultural ties, cutting contacts and cutting business relationships with the country as well. >> so, also disturbing is, scott, what you were telling us about earlier today, perhaps a form of intimidation, intentionally intimidating and frightening people who think they are boarding buses to safety only to be taken into russia. do we know anything more about -- is this outright people being tricked, or is there some explanation as to why this was happening? >> reporter: that's what it appear s to be. obviously, we don't have the russian side of this story at the moment. according to ukrainians, what happened was there was a humanitarian corridor that was supposed to leave from a shopping mall on the western edge of the city earlier today. there were about 200 people who managed to find out about that corridor despite the lack of communications and were ready to leave the city. however, instead of buses showing up, the ukrainians say that russian soldiers showed up and told them to disperse because there would be shelling in the area. what those people found is there were another set of buses parked about 200 yards away. they boarded those buses, and only after they boarded were they told they weren't going to their originally scheduled destination, zaporizhzhia, in ukrainian-held territory, instead, they were going to a town in russian-held territory. this is certainly part of a trend, fredricka, we've seen of people being pushed into russia, whether they want go there or not. >> so frightening. thank you so much, scott mclean. we'll check back with you as we continue to monitor and get more information and tape coming from this press conference of president zelenskyy. thanks so much, scott. coming up, cases eerily similar, two russian oligarchs along their wives and children found dead within 24 hours this week. details straight ahead. ody? 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(gentle music) the images are haunting, this invasion of ukraine taken by a ukrainian photojournalist. his work has appeared around the world including this piece in "time" magazine with writer simon shuster. and now he joins me from zaporizhzhia. that's in southern ukraine. you know what, we're actually having technical difficulties right now so we're going to try to reconnect with maxim momentarily. and it looks like, with this heavy pause, it looks like we might have him back now. okay. leapt's try this out. there he is. very good, maxim. i'm so glad you're with us. so, you know, talk to me about what this journey has been like for you because you started documenting as soon as this invasion took place in february. you are ukrainian. this hits so close to home for you. so what were some of your first images? what struck you? what did you start capturing? >> yeah, hello, fredricka, and thank you for inviting me again. yeah, so just -- yeah, just to cover this war because it's my home. so i need to stay here. i need to just fight russian propaganda. i need to show true the war in kyiv, bucha, kharkiv, now in zaporizhzhia. so i had to do it. >> do you feel you had to do it. i mean -- yeah. this is your country. you have to do this. you have to show people what you're seeing. you are an eyewitness to this horrifying page in history. so i do want to ask you about some very specific photographs, and i do want to warn people that it is very disturbing to see these images, but you also felt the importance of taking them. so here we go. we're going to be talking about a woman and a man, both dead in their home, and it looks like right under the table of one of the people. tell me -- and they're in a doorway. tell me about what you believe is happening here, what happened, and why it was important for you to take these images. >> it -- >> all right. it looks like we're again having a problem with our signal. we're going to take -- okay. maxim, do you hear me? no. okay. we're going to try it again another time. but these are important images, and it's real life. and, you know, this hits close to home for him because this is essentially happening right in his backyard in his country. but you heard him say he has been kind of dotting the map in so many different cities and documenting the travp city. so we'll try again at some point to reconnect with maxim. all right. also still ahead, a federal judge in this country, in florida, striking down mask mandate for airplanes and other public transport methods, leaving some travellers pretty confused. own your strength, and see how far it takakes you. tonal. be your strongest. 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