♪ right now on "early start," the final hours of a truce between israel and hamas, both sides say they'd like an extension. plus, more gaza hostages could walk free in the coming hours. israel says they have a list of who gets released next. and internal turmoil at the white house. one report says divisions over the israel/hamas war have roiled biden's team like no other issue of his presidency. ♪ good morning to our viewers in the united states and around the world, i'm kasie hunt. it's monday, november 27th. 5:00 a.m. here in washington. it's noon in gaza where the truce between hamas and israel is entering its fourth an possibly final day. overnight, hamas sent israel the list of hostages it plans to release today. the militant group released 17 hostages yesterday. including 4-year-old american israeli abigail idan. israel released 39 palestinians in return both sides are discussing the possibility of extending the truce. the exchanges and influx of humanitarian aid into gaza. the terms already set grant an extra day pause in the fighting for every ten hostages hamas frees. israel's defense cabinetry discussed it last night and keyed me jeres have discussed support. >> that's our goal, to keep this pause going beyond tomorrow so we can continue to see more hostages come out and surge more humanitarian relief into those in need in gaza. >> all right, let's bring in cnn global affairs analyst kim dozier. kim, good morning to you. thank you for being here. the president, of course, saying he'd like to see this truce extend which is reflects the behind-t behind-the-scene posture of the united states. how much influence does the united states have in this now? >> well, the u.s. has influence over qatar which is the only state that has some sort of influence over hamas, it seems, also qatar remains an interlocutor between the rest of the world. plus, they want to give this pause another four days at least and get more hostages out. but the qatari prime minister has told the media that it all depends on hamas being able to find the rest of the women and children who are being held. there's a total of 90 being held. and with the first four days that means about 50 of them have been released. so another four days, up to ten days which is what the israeli cabinet originally approved with this truce deal, that would basically take care of all of the missing women and children. but the question is, are they all alive? are they all in hamas' hands? and can they be turned over in time to buy an extension of this truce. >> and how fragile are things in terms of this going from a situation where there is serious at a period of time to one when anything could happen on any given day? >> you know, almost each day of this pause there has been some problem with the exchange. hams at one point slowed down the exchange because they said, they claimed that buses of -- trucks of aid weren't reaching northern gaza quickly enough. so there have always been near breakdowns. i think if hamas can find the rest of the women and children, it's likely that there's momentum on both sides that this will continue for another few days which means more aid to palestinians inside gaza as well. but the problem will come with once you get to the men who are being held, especially the military age men, and israeli officials have spoken to expect that that is when hamas will raise the stakes, raise the price for returning the hostages. and demand, perhaps, more palestinian prisoners in exchange. the palestinian islamic jihad which is the small more radical faction of militants within gaza has said that it doesn't think any military-age men, any idf troops who were taken, should be released unless all 8,000 some odd palestinian prisoners held in israeli jails are released. that's a price israel probably isn't willing to pay. >> and very briefly, does that mean we go back to seeing bombs across gaza immediately when that happens? >> that means after the moment hamas raises the price, yes, that probably means a return to an israeli offensive. and as as multiple israeli officials have said publicly, they prefer to negotiate under fire. they think that's the only thing that works with the hamas group. >> all right, kim dozier, thank you very much for getting us started this morning. i really appreciate it. and in recent days, president biden focused on one gaza hostage in particular. and that was 4-year-old abigail idan, the first american hostage that hamas has released. a senior military official telling cnn, the president discussed her case in nearly all of his phone calls with leaders in the region. >> two days ago, two days ago, one of our fellow americans, a little girl named abigail turned 4 years old. she spent her birthday that birthday, and at least 50 days before that held hostage by hamas. today, she's free. and jill and i, together with so many americans are praying for the fact that she is going to be all right. >> all right. white house reporter camilla dechalice joins us live now. camilla, good morning. we understand the u.s. was tracking abigail so closely on her journey out of captivity. clearly, this was personal for the president. >> yes, that's right. he spoke about her at length, especially when talking about the hostages that hamas has had in captivity. and was exactly what's at stake when we're talking about the people that have been taken. and why the u.s. has played such an active role, especially the president at this time, in taking an active role in negotiations between israel and hamas to strike somewhat of a hostage -- of a negotiation agreement, to call for a pause to get humanitarian aid into gaza. but also most importantly, the people at the center of this have been taken on, you know, going from that passing of prisoners and also the hostages that hamas has taken. and the first one that biden has si signi signaled that he's going to take an active role in making sure that the pause is extended for days but also to make sure there is release of all american hostages but over all hostages that hamas has. >> and of course, they were very closely tracking the van that she was held in, as she was driving out of israel -- out of gaza, excuse me? >> right, especially when he's talking about the length of these negotiations. and exactly the process of where the hostages have been released. it's through a third party. and so the fact that, you know, he has given an update stating that she is now safely with her family members. there's been video released of her embracing her loved ones. so, i think that is very telling. and it also puts his message forward saying he's optimistic that more negotiations can move forward to release even more hostages in the future. look, i think the bigger picture here is that president biden has been seen very carefully when how he responds to his abroad. especially since there's been mounting pressure from how he has not responded to this cease-fire. and you have outside pressure groups having biden be more vocal about just some of the international humanitarian laws that they feel have been violated. and how biden is going to proceed in this laminating and talking about the 4-year-old and the human element of this brought home. especially at stake. >> camila dechachllus, thank yo. and a suspect arrested after three palestinian college students were shot in vermont. and he's trailing in third place in the gop primary race in nin new hampshire, what chris christie says he plans to do next. welcome back. new twist in the hostage talks. a diplomatic source tells cnn that more than 40 hostages abducted on october 7th are not being held by hamas but by other terror groups and this, of course, creates a complication because the deal to return hostages exists with hamas. here's what national security adviser jake sullivan said on "meet the press" on sunday. >> we're also aware it's not just hamas holding hostages. palestinian and islamic jihad and other terrorist group that participated in the brutal massacre on october 7th is holding some. and other groups who are not directly affiliated but have loose connections to hamas and palestinian jihad are also holding hostages. >> all right. let's bring in cnn's max foster in london. max, always good to see you. this obviously is very complicated, the idf and other intelligence operations, including the u.s., they've been trying to locate those hostages in gaza and haven't been able to after weeks of searching. this is clearly, part of it, there are multiple groups holding these hostages. what are the hopes at this point to get them out? and how did it complicate what is going to be this evolving situation now that we're ending this first four-day period and hitting territory that is so far unknown. >> well, it's complicated because it's complicated for hamas. because the deal, the truce deal is with hamas, as you said. they need to know where the hostages are to really be able to hold up this truce agreement. islamic jihad is a group we've heard about there. but there are also groups not necessarily with political motivations. they could have just gone in and grabbed some hostages. we actually don't know what their motivations are. that's for hamas to try to figure out. the aqatari prime minister actually spoke to "the financial times" saying hamas needs to locate the hostages to extend their truce. that's from qatar mediating this. and also a slight issue with monday's list of hostages to be freed which might delay a monday hostage release. so that might be linked what qatar is saying. hamas needs to explain where all of the hostages are, while they might not necessarily know. so we're waiting to see how hamas responds to that. and really, we don't really understand the relationship between all of these groups fully. >> right. no, for sure. and i think it's important to distinguish, too, it really seems like the conversations right now around the women and children. and that sort of whatever future line things start to change is when we start talking about men. do we have an understanding, you know, are there women and children with these other groups? and how does that complicate how everyone's talking about this in public? >> well, this is -- this is the thing, isn't it? we just don't know who's with who. and you're right. it's easier to release women and children for both sides because less politically controversial. the really difficult ones, of course, are serving officers of the israeli idf, for example, who are in there, because that's going to be -- they're going to be the last person to leave. and i'm spoken to relatives of israeli soldiers held hostage. can you imagine the pain they're going through when they're seeing other hostages being released and there's no chance of their hostages being released. what qatar is trying to do is get a proper list of exactly who is held hostage and where they are. it's really up to hamas to find out who that is. they're acting as the umbrella group here. and we also need to have good relationships with those groups to get the data we need. zbr >> it's owe complicated and emotions running high as loved ones try to figure out who is on the list. max foster. thank you as always. happy monday. see you soon. still ahead, memorial services to honor the former first laid rosalynn carter in georgia this week. and the season's first big snsnow, we saw that and whereres going to h hit nexext. stay w with us. ♪ welcome back. quick hits across america now. a suspect arrested overnight in the shooting of three palestinian college students in burlington, vermont. police are searching for a motive, but they say two victims were wearing traditional palestinian scarfs. president biden and the first lady will attend a tribute in atlanta for former first lady rosalynn carter who died sunday at 96. several ceremonies are planned to honor her this week. former governor chris christie says he's staying in the gop primary race in the convention. he also tells cnn he's not interested in consolidating support with nikki haley to try and challenge trump. >> this race is consolidated very nicely. we're really now, in my view, have four major contenders for the nomination, donald trump, ron desantis and me and nikki haley. the fact is we're the major contenders for the nomination. everyone else still hanging around the fringe of the race, you know, is not a serious contender. >> this despite a recent cnn poll which shows him trailing trump and haley in new hampshire. let's go to weather, the central plains and in particular, kansas, they got more than a foot of snow. and the midwest was snowed under, too. travel delays affected millions who were headed home after the thanksgiving holiday. let's get to our weather man derek van dam who is tracking this on several fronts, derek, i'm so glad to see you got some time off last week but we missed you very much. welcome back. what do you got? >> you're looking at a very refreshed and recharged weatherman this morning. i'm happy to be back, i truly am. but, you know what, i don't think the people that had to deal with the delays yesterday at chicago o'hare airport are refreshed as this weatherman is. look at the lines, the queues of people. it was a difficult travel day for people heading home from thanksgiving, family, loved ones just at o'hare international, over 500 delays reported. at jfk there were 259 reported delays yesterday. countrywide, in and out of the country in and out of the united states, there were 7,000 delays on sunday. which, of course, has wonderful timing with the busiest holiday and travel week of the year. look at the snow totals over the plains. this is impressive, over a foot of snow over parts of kansas. new york, we know, we have seen you've had your snow drought for the past couple of years, we're going 650 consecutive days with less than one inch of snowfall. and there's no snow in your forecast at the moment. hopefully, that tide will turn by the time christmas comes around. look at this, you can see the snowfall blanketed across the plains and midwest, thanks to a system that's dissolved across the appalachians. a low off the east coast that has brought rain to boston and portland. and, of course, the cold air machine helping to cook up the lake enhanced snow showers across lake erie and lake ontario. anywhere downwind from those two lakes will see several inches of snow going forward in the next couple of days. some of our commuterpute models picking up on a couple feet. kasie, i think you'll hit about 49 today. >> thank you very much for that, derek. i do need my personal forecast every morning, in addition to all of us watching, our weatherman derek van dam, thank you very much. i'll see you tomorrow, my friend. >> all right. just ahead here, more hostages in gaza expected to be released as the truce between israel and hamas enters its fourth and possibly the final day. and internal divisions inside the biden administration. the white house trying to weather tension over the war. ♪ good morning. thanks for being up early with us, i'm kasie hunt. it's 5:30 on the east coast, 2:30 out west. israel is waiting for the fourth and final group of hostages possibly to be released by hamas. the pause in the war has gone well enough that both sides are talking about extending it. hamas could release ten more hostages for each additional day of the truce, up to ten days running. >> this is a day-by-day approach. nothing guaranteed. and nothing is being taken for granted. but the proof that this is working and worth pursuing further is in every smile, in every grateful tear we see on the faces of those families who are finally getting back together again. the proof is little abigail. >> little abigail. that is 4-year-old american israeli abigail idan, the first american citizen released so far by hamas. she was among 17 hostages released sunday by the group in exchange for 13 palestinian teenagers leased by prison by israel. cnn's clare sebastian from london. clare, what do know we about a possible exchange and possibility of extending the truce? >> good morning, kasie. every day has been challenges. today is no different, this fourth, potentssibliy the final of the agreement. they're evaluating that. we're hearing from a diplomatic source briefed on the negotiations said there might be a slight issue with the list of hostages and prisoners to be freed. we don't know what that issue is, but it could delay the hostage release. at least we're hearing from that source, it's likely we could delay the hostage release on monday. that issue is intended to be ironed out by qatar which is to be the main broker in these talks. we've heard from the palestinian authorities they have yet to receive a list of prisoners to be freed. as the president said, it's hour by hour, every day with this and it's fragile and an extremely hard one. on the issue of how it could be extended look, it seems like there's will on both sides, hamas said it's keen for this. that it wants to see more palestinian prisoners released. the prime minister of israel, prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said to president biden he would welcome it if more hostages could be freed. this is not a breakthrough. this is baked in the original agreement that they could potentially extend 24 hours of truce for each additional ten israeli hostages released. we'll watch and wait to see if that happens. of course, the major complicating factor is that israel has said it intends to continue with the operation once the truce is over. it has not finished the job of dismantling hamas. we saw prime minister netanyahu apparently in gaza on sunday, that they aim to continue pursuing this some victory. he was wearing a flak jacket and helmet. i think the optics of speak to that conflict. kasie. >> thanks for that. let's bring in joel rubin, the former secretary of state for the obama administration. joel, always great to have you here. how solid is the ground under the truce reality today, the final one? and how does that affect the possibility of it being extended? >> well, kasie, it's great to be with you as always. look, this is thin ice, but it's solid. and as clare mentioned a day-by-day agreement is already there in place from the earlier agreement for this four-day period. but my fear is that we're going to answer this uncertainty, and it's inherently unstable. there are multiple actors here at play. obviously hamas and israel. but also different groups in gaza that have the hostages. so to get a longer chunk of time solidified, another multiday agreement would be really beneficial to create more stability for continued ways of exchanges of hostages for prisoners. because this is day by day, and anything can happen in that environment. >> yeah. for sure. so, one of the things that looms over this, obviously, is the prospect that israel is going to resume its bombing campaign in gaza. obviously, the humanitarian situation there is incredibly dire. it's coming into more focus. there is also mounting pressure here at home for president biden to call for a cease-fire. so far, that has been a nonstarter. what do you think the administration should be doing in these days? what are they doing behind the scenes? and how do you see what may happen next? >> well, you know, the opportunity here is very unique. in that there has been time. and this provides a window for zb diplomacy. secretary blinken is headed out to the region. others are engaged with the actors. we've even qatar as a mediator be highly effective for hamas. for the administration this is an opportunity to demonstrate how diplomacy and leaning in can lead to longer term goals or at least discussed. president biden has been talking about a diplomatic solution and the need for an end game. but they haven't had t