former president trump was a steamroller in the white house, and it landed an insurrection on the steps of the capitol. if we can't shake our addiction to strongmen, to those utterly convinced of their own greatness, there will be many more like spitzer in positions of power posing even bigger threats to our fragile democracy-- crusaders wanting their portraits on the walls of history. every governor of new york has the chance to be immortalized in a painting that hangs in the new york state capitol, a self-directed monument to his or her own illustrious legacy. all of them are there-- all but two. the first served in the early 19th century and left no likenesses behind. the second...is eliot spitzer. ♪ there was testimony from a haley bind biden. she's her name is haley biden because she was married to hunter biden's brother sadly died. beau biden and then and then hunter went out with her. so she's the ex ex-girlfriend and the widow and i know she just she testified that when she was with hunter, he got her into crack and she is ashamed and embarrassed about that part of her life really, you you bang your dead husband's brother. >> and the part you're embarrassed about is the crack she said she found hunter's gun at one point, she knew she couldn't have it, so she took it and you throw it away, like in the supermarket dumpster. perfect play so when hunter found out, you throw away his gun, he was very angry, called are insane. he called are stupid. he said, what do you want? crack. and if you are, may i have sat die? >> we all saw the stuff from hunter biden's laptop, right? i mean, why they did a reality show about hunter biden be called naked and afraid of running out of crack and it's just and it's just bad optics for the president. >> the jury is looking at sex tapes of hunter biden and the rest of his are worrying of his father couldn't walk or wreck well actually, job was doing the de d-day thing. you saw that yesterday did very well. i thought he did very well. he was over there commemorating the an anniversary of d-day. and over here in america, you know what they did? nine congressman. oh, gosh nine congressmen dressed up as military people world war two vintage stuff and jumped out of a world war ii vintage plane to commemorate d-day okay sadly, they were wearing parachutes george santos said, you know, when i do dress up, you make a whole thing out. it wow, yes, it's it's pride month in the spirit. >> in the spirit of fraught pride month story five drag queens in philadelphia. did a reading children's books, reading as they do, made the guinness book of world records for the fastest way to get trump re-elected not not that there aren't still big, it's in this country to just see this, the head of the colorado, this the head of the colorado republican parties sent out an email missives saying calling gay people godless groomer which in california is not even an insult. i kept my hair cut at a place called dogmas the first job no holds barred democratic senator from the great state of pennsylvania, john fetterman welcome welcome back to this thursday non are to be here. i'm i'm i'm a fan boy. so it's the right track. got gi have been badgering my staff for a long time now to get you on this show and i'll tell you why i've been bad during them, i guess then they badgered you lead i'm glad it worked in new here because i when i see you, especially the last couple of years you speak so freely, you speak like politician two, i get on this show, who aren't in politics anymore, the ones who are out of office when they can be honest. and that's the way you speak now and it's a beautiful thing this is true you speak for a lot of democrats that are afraid to say a lot of that stuff. >> yeah. i mean, it's a letter released for a lot of democrats to be able to be like, thank god, someone's actually platforming that like that. >> no, i think we're very much on the same page, but it's very rare. i mean, i don't have to worry about being reelected except by the but in i think even more brave for you to do it. the question i want, i'm interested in asking you is, is this connected to some of your health issues? i mean, when you've gone through it, you have both physical and mental health issues? yeah. does it give you a freedom, like, what can you know absolutely. there's like a line from the first batman, joker, he's like, now i've already been dead once already. it's overrating. and that's that's not reckless. >> that's just that's really just freeing. it's his freeing in a way. and i just think after being all of that, i just really be able to say the things that i have to really believe in and not be afraid of if there's any kind of blowback what about. mental health in america writ large? >> what do we, what is the prescription for this? because we're going to talk about it on the show degree tonight. it's certainly a big issue in this country and we have, i think 50,000 suicides in the last excellently, this is an astounding number. i think what what are your thoughts on this? >> no, it's well i actually i thought after i signed myself into walter reed to get help with depression, it's not it's not really a big political winner to talk about oppression, right then when i started to have the conversation, i realized that if i had to be really honest, i have to talk about self-harm harming myself because, you pointed at the 50,000 americans took their lives and i started to talk about that and saying, yeah, i've been in that kind of a place and i now tell people like i'm promise you, begin, you please just don't don't harm yourself. stay in the game. and now i'm in contacted by people on the regular saying, hey, thanks to hearing this, i got help or even saved my life and i never thought that that would resonate and that's why i decided to have that conversation because i was lucky. i got help and got better. and now i want to be the kind of guy that can say something thing that could have helped someone like me that it was in that situation let's talk a little politics here, because that is your game. >> pennsylvania is going to be one of they say probably it could be come down to three states. pennsylvania will definitely be one. >> well, i've always said that pennsylvania picks the president and there really is no legitimate path. the president, if he doesn't win. and i really do believe he will win actually, because trump was able to flip pennsylvania and that helped deliver his first victory. but joe biden carried in 2020 because you have, he has a really strong connection. there to pennsylvania and i do believe he will again, but it's gonna be very close. and that's the same conversation i've been having with pennsylvania that it's going to be very close because trump has a strong connection and pennsylvania and it's going to be very competitive. and all of that, and i've also been saying that i don't think that whole trial is going to be anything meaningful with people have already decided like, hey, that's my guy. i will never understand by somebody would say, yeah, i love that. i went more four years of that. but i do believe joe biden's going to carry pennsylvania and he's going to win as he is not yet officially the nominee of the democratic party. >> is he really the best one for them to put forward? >> joe biden? yeah. yeah yeah. he's actually the only american that's ever beat trump in an election and i do honestly believe that he's actually the only democrat that could win. and let me just say this. let me just say this another that might be provocative but the last time there was like a hot governor that with $200 million. thought that he was going to be trump. and then trump threw him into width shipper and he finished third and his own state and florida. and again, it to santa yeah. yeah, it's like trump is pretty tough and that's what the republicans want and i can't imagine why he still appealing right now, but trump has a very, and i do believe joe biden has that ability to win and we have a great, we have a great bench. but i think it's a very distinct kind of situation right now. >> i'm surprised at that, but i'll move on i'm not on the same page there, but okay. i mean, it's probably going to be joe biden and i'll vote for him. but you mentioned desantis this was very curious to meet desantis wants to ban fake meat in florida you agreed with them? i don't i don't get this willy. >> i think it's no so much about making it illegal, but it's also just talking about i really wanted to stand with i wanted to stand with american farmers and ranchers and those kinds of a thing. >> and i don't believe that it's helpful and that's the direction that i'd like to move in that. but if somebody wants to consume that, that that's okay. but i think there's gonna be states that are going to decide. i don't want to ban this, or i really want to invent and create that kinds of a product in their state. >> i think i wouldn't need it either. quite frankly, but i wouldn't ban it. i mean, that's what desantis ones to do. so you can't get it. if i thought that was the freedom party, i felt the freedom country. if people want to have fake meat or fake anything, fake, fake anything los angeles that's sloppy there, but but i don't i don't think that's really going to solve anything other than i don't i don't get why anybody that would appeal to anybody. okay. but you are you've been very out front on legalizing. we'd oh, yeah, of course. >> i heard that, you to john, that's just a character i play until never smoked, enjoyed my life i heard you say or reddit? >> maybe it was a tweet. i don't know what it was. you said. i'm not a progressive, i'm a democrat. what does that mean? how how do you, what does that distinction? because i'm always i don't think i've used the word progressive. i think i've said woke. i think there's a big difference between woke and i know that word triggers a lot of people because it had a great beginning as a meeting but words migrate and it went to something else. i think there's a big difference between an old school liberal and a wolf person. you say progressive democrat. how do you describe this? >> yeah. no, i agree it's like i've just say i've been saying that for years actually, i said that i didn't leave the label. >> it left me on that. right. and that really after happened now, on october 7, i was really knew that that whole progressive stack would be blasted apart and they're not gonna be any kind of way how the democrats are going to be able to reply to that kind of respond to that kind of and i really decided early on that i believe that what's going to be the right side with israel throughout all of that? and i knew that would be democrats would continue to peel away and walk away from its, from standing with israel on that. but that's where i decided after how do you explain that? if you can that the people who considered themselves the most liberal have abandon israel, which was always a liberal darling for the people who a terrorist organization, the people who outwardly say they want a genocide, who outwardly or the one side of this, who was against the two-state solution. so how they wound up with them? why do you think that is? and will this split the democratic party? >> well, it does because it, there's an appeal there and i think e. to talk about that, last week, you really hit with the gender or apartheid. yes, i'm talking about a lot of these issues and some of the most progressive and left a parts of the democratic party or are standing for the side that have kinds of organizations like hamas or these kind of nations that there are no rights for women. and they certainly don't embrace the lgbtq fans of lifestyle and even in philadelphia, the queers for palestine blocked the pride for aid in philadelphia. and i never saw that on the bingo card, but really all right, well, it may seem lonely out there sometimes when you're brave, like you are, but you have a lot of fans. >> fans here, and then you have a lot of fans all over the country. when i told people you were coming on, a lot of them were really excited that you're here, but they all had one question. didn't they wanted me to ask you, which is what is the deal with the wardrobe please ask last year i noticed you had a great joke. >> you're really now, if you put a picture of b in your life, he dresses like a guy that the airline lost his luggage and i know address like a slob. i'm not making a statement or anything. but it's like i'm in the comfort. yeah. it's just comfort and i'm kind of it's like i don't have to iron and it's like it it's really good. i can't, you know, it's kinda hard to find suits and all those things and i put i never understood why anybody thought that, why that was interesting, but but what's really crazy is just like it was more controversial. and i want to be clear. i wasn't behind the train changing the dress code or anything. i really wasn't. but more people were seemed more concerned about me me could wearing a hoodie on the floor as opposed to we have senators taking bribes and i'm still a freshman you seem like we're in a really good place well, i'm sitting sitting across having a near-death experience and going through that kind of a blowtorch of $100 million. >> in an attack acts and all of the kinds of things to emerge on the side where i'm grateful to be here, both right. with you and back with my kids and my family and everything. and i just decided i really want to be the kind of voice that's consistent and has a moral clarity on issues that may not be controversial for democrats and but i'm not sure why anya, that's controversial for democrats, whether it's about israel or the border, or people just want a these days, john, everything everything is controversial to everybody. >> yeah. but you keep doing what you're doing i thank you hey, mom how many should i decorated have ran lu that's a really tough call. >> who are you? 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so this is the week where we celebrated the greatest generation saving democracy. so we could learn about hunter biden's smoking crack weekend and nutshell so i feel like it's one of those stories were both sides have a lot of wrong in their handling. >> a member at the beginning when the laptop came mount the left-wing media just would not even admit it was a thing, right? it just had to be a hoax or it had to be russian this information. it just didn't exist. they wouldn't write about it that was wrong. and the right is wrong to pretend it means something except possibly about joe biden's parenting the question i want to ask because i know your book is about it and you've written about parenting. okay. why do all the political families have this near dwell up family it isn't just because they're famous. we went into every family that have that have a billy carter are roger clinton george bush himself was the ne'er-do-wells the beginning of time we've known that children basically need three things and these are essential. >> they need parental authority, they need to hear no, they need independence, and they need loving community and kids with high-profile families often get none of those. no one's willing to tell them no they never get independence because i don't want anyone to let make the big guy look bad and they don't have loving community. they're raising a political battlefield. and unfortunately too many of american kids today also don't have those. >> you, the way you describe it, you suddenly everybody's from a prominent family because i read in your book the kids go off to college and they've never heard the word no, that's right or the word wait, that's right. well, it's today are under a microscope. they're under a microscope. they're literally because of the protection, of course, social media and whatnot, but also because their parents are so afraid of traumatizing them, they've been told by mental health experts that say hey, no, punishing can be traumatizing. so they don't exert their own authority. so these kids are basically we have a generation being raised as shrinks kids and they're miserable. >> there's a link with your d-day tie-in, which is that we understood that generation and others, but especially that one to have a sense of stoicism right? like you're gonna go through some bad stuff. it's going you're going to fail. there's gonna be unfair things that happened to you. >> the question is, what are you going to do that the father of a 15-year-old and a nine-year-old, they're not teaching lot of stoicism and the brooklyn public school system last time i checked, it's at some point she starts to use as an excuse to get out of chores like that's not my journey i'm not going to holding a laundry.