Transcripts For FOXNEWS The Five 20240710 : vimarsana.com

Transcripts For FOXNEWS The Five 20240710

It comes to gun legislation. So, instead of beginning this hour with whats happening in congress today, we thought wed start with whats not happening, which is a bigger story. So, First Senate Republicans are expected to block a bill creating a commission to investigate the attack on the u. S. Capitol on january 6th. This is their workplace. Not just the centerpiece of American Democracy but this is where they and their staffers go to do the work of the people. The attack led to the deaths of five and injured more than 160 Capitol Police officers. Congress has also not reached any agreement on police reform. They missed President Bidens tuesday deadline for a deal, even though most lawmakers say they are disturbed by what weve all seen with our own eyes in case after case captured on video of Black Americans killed at the hands of police. The family of one of those killed, ronald greene, will stage their own march for justice this hour. And we will see at half staff, tweets about thoughts and prayers. Your senators, your representatives are taking no action, no real action on the Mass Shooting epidemic. California governor gavin newsom said it this way. What the hells going on in the United States of america . What the hell is wrong with us . Well, cnn has new reporting about yesterdays shooting in san jose that left, again, nine people dead. More on that in a moment. But first, republican senators are expected to block what was a bipartisan agreement for commission to investigate the insurrection. Joining us now, cnn Congressional Correspondent lauren fox and cnn special correspondent jamie. So far, three republicans are on the record, they have said that they would support this. Democrats need ten republican votes. Is it going to happen . How close will they get . Reporter well, democrats arent there on getting those ten republican votes. Republican leadership has been working very hard to make sure their members are in line on this vote. Theyve been working for weeks and theyre confident they have the votes locked down. This really began with an effort a few weeks ago by Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell to really try to point out to his members his argument that there are already congressional investigations that are happening, therefore, they dont need to have this commission. You have, in front of you, essentially, just a handful of republicans willing to vote with democrats, people like mitt romney, Susan Collins, lisa murkowski. You also have senator rob portman saying he might vote on a procedural vote on this commission, but he has changes that he wants to see made. The larger list is republicans who are planning to vote against creating this commission, and i just want to point out that in the house of representatives, there were 35 republicans who voted with democrats to establish a commission. In the senate, that number is going to be far smaller. Jamie, you have some new reporting on senator minority leader Mitch Mcconnell and his personal efforts to squash this bill. Reporter well, as lauren pointed out, we know that mcconnell has been pressuring Republican Voters to vote against the January 6th Commission since he announced his opposition last week. But what were told by two sources, two republican sources, is that in the last 24 hours, mcconnell has doubled down, and he has reached out to particular senators he was afraid might be wavering. According to one republican source, mcconnell asked them to vote against the commission as, quote, a personal favor. And the source said that while mcconnell, look, he lets the conference know where he stands as leader, the senators were really caught by surprise at just how insistent he was. Bottom line, he does not want a January 6th Commission, even with the tweaks senator Susan Collins has proposed to address his concern. I want to read you one more quote. This was from a republican source who was baffled by Mitch Mcconnell. The source said, no one can understand why mitch is going to this extreme of asking for a personal favor to kill the commission, and went on to say, quote, how can you have an attack on the capitol and the republican leader is saying, vote against it, quote, it is despicable. Jamie, we heard from Senator Thune that this could spill over into the 2020 midterms and we know from Leader Mccarthy and leader mcconnell that the goal, obviously, is to regain the majority. Is it as simple as that . I think it is as simple as that, but lets remember that these tweaks that Susan Collins is offering would put a time certain on ending the commission. Thats supposed to address it. But i think the bottom line is that Susan Collins has gotten the message loud and clear that her tweaks, whatever they are, are not enough for Mitch Mcconnell. He seems to feel that the commission, any commission, whatever the rules are, will be bad for him to become majority leader and for republicans to regain the senate. Its as simple as that. Lauren, trying to inject some humanity into this, is brian sicknicks mom and his longtime girlfriend, so thats the officer who died after the attack, and we saw all of the hideous attacks on the Capitol Police officers, how they were beaten, 160 of them injured, and so whats happened with their meetings . With brian sicknicks mom and girlfriend meeting and making a personal appeal to these senators . Well, they have met with some senators who were already a yes on the commission. Theyve also met with some senators who had already publicly announced that they were opposed. One of those, of course, senator ron johnson of wisconsin who put out a statement, essentially saying that he respected and expected to have that meeting, but he also made clear that he is in a different position on the commission and that he did make a promise to try to get answers for brian sicknicks mother, but of course, he remains in the same position that he has been in. Obviously, this is a very emotional moment, moments on capitol hill, when it comes to someone who was serving the capitol, who was well known to members up here on capitol hill, their mother coming up and making a personal appeal, a powerful moment for sure. Those votes, very locked in for the republican party, though, which is not the ten republicans, like we said, willing to vote to establish this commission. Lets take a listen, yeah, to his mom, what she had to say today. Police officers were getting attacked. They were getting beaten. Fire extinguishers were thrown at them. They were being attacked by flag poles. I mean, mike and officer dunn here, i should say, they can basically tell you right now what they experienced, and it wasnt a tourist day. It wasnt tourists just passively walking by. If january 6th didnt happen, brian would still be here. Plain and simple. Do you think you can change minds today . I hope so. I hope so. And brian had a work ethic, second to none, and he was just there for our country and for these guys, and he just was doing his job, and he got caught up in it and its very sad. Theyre supposed to uphold the constitution and right now, i dont think theyre doing it. I mean, lauren, they want justice. They want answers, you know . I hear you sighing there, jamie. I mean, how can the senators say, no, thanks . Well, i think that thats part of the challenge of having meetings like this, right . I mean, this reminds me of right after sandy hook, when lawmakers on capitol hill were trying to come up with some kind of bipartisan Background Check Bill and i remember those families coming up to the hill and meeting with senators, many of whom had already made their positions very public on where they stood. The hope is that a personal story, meeting with someone changes your world view, makes you take a step back from the political moment and make a different decision. I just dont think that thats what weve seen happen in the aftermath of some of these meetings. And jamie, one of our colleagues caught up with senator joe manchin, who is, in cases like this, the person that democrats should go to first if youre trying to get the votes of the caucus. And he was asked if this is the time at which there needs to be some filibuster reform. If not for voting rights, if not for some of the infrastructure bills, for this commission. He said, quote, that he is, quote, not ready to destroy our government, close quote, by reforming the filibuster. There were people who really went there to kill members of the government, to destroy the at least the facade, the edifice of the capitol. I find it interesting that thats the terminology. Thats the verbiage he used here. You know, its interesting, joe manchin is in this position where he is standing in between possibly the filibuster going away, and he does not want to do this. But we also have reporting from our colleague, dana bash, that he said to Mitch Mcconnell that, in no uncertain terms, that he thought there should be a commission. I just want to go back to officer sicknicks mother for one minute. What we have seen today is not just heartbreaking. Her son gave his life protecting these Men And Women, and i know a little bit about her behind the scenes, we corresponded. She did not want to come here. She was hoping that this would that there would be a commission, that she wouldnt have to come here today. Thats why it was so lastminute. She really expected, in her words, for them to do the right thing. And jamie, just one more point on that. I remember so vividly after when Patricia Smith, another grieving mother, went, and she was so, she was the mom of sean smith, who was killed during the benghazi attack, and donald trump brought Patricia Smith to a president ial debate. The rnc gave Patricia Smith a platform to make a speech, because all republicans felt she deserved to be heard, she deserved justice, she deserved answers. And the idea that theyre not going to extend that same courtesy to brian sicknicks mother makes no sense. So, the numbers here, we believe, at least 15 republican members agreed to sit down with her. Eight others offered staff. But that means that about half the conference either said no or has not responded, which i think is a startling number. But at the end of the day, lets remember this is about one thing, whether youre talking about Kevin Mccarthy or Mitch Mcconnell, these two men, its about politics. They want to take back the house. They want to take back the senate. And they think that a commission makes them look bad, even a Bipartisan Commission with all of the allowances that nancy pelosi and the democrats negotiated with their republican membership on the house side. Well, im glad everybodys on the same page and knows what its about in that case. I mean, its just really a remarkable point to see where we are. Jamie gangel, lauren fox, thank you very much. Thank you. So, the survivors of the san jose Mass Shooting are speaking out about what they saw when their coworker opened fire. One witness says the gunman specifically targeted certain people to shoot. And were just a few minutes away from President Biden pitching his economic plan as negotiations over infrastructure continue. 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She left a message from a coworkers phone, saying that she was okay. She dropped her phone. And that was all i heard from her. Ive just got to get to my wife. Praying the whole time and wasnt sure if he was going to come home to us so it was definitely very scary. Nobody should have a gun, not even the good people has gun too. We dont need guns. Thats what 911 is, right . If no one has a gun, and anyone has a gun, you can ask the gun people, thats the law in india. Cnn security correspondent Josh Campbell is live in san jose with more on the investigation. Josh, i understand you spoke with the sheriff just a few minutes ago. What did you learn . Reporter i did. Were getting some new details from the Sheriffs Department on what exactly transpired here yesterday. Sheriff laurie smith telling me at this point based on preliminary figures, authorities believe this shooter fired 39 rounds whenever he arrived here yesterday at this location during that Mass Shooting. This morning, she had confirmed to me some of the weaponry that was used, saying that the suspect had two pistols as well as 11 magazines, so a serious amount of ammunition that was brought here but the sheriff just confirming a couple minutes ago to me that they believe 39 rounds were fired. Now, interestingly, the sheriff also said that it looked at this point as though the shooter may have targeted his specific victims. She told me that present at the scene, whenever the suspect was in the middle of his rampage, there was a local Union Official who did not work for the transportation authority, and according to the sheriff, that shooter walked up to the Union Official and said, quote, im not going to shoot you. And that person was not shot. Of course, we know the people that were shot were people who worked here at this train yard, that leading authorities to believe this was an act of workplace viol

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