>> jesse: i'm jesse watters with judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., greg gutfeld, and dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ president biden turning his back on israel to appease the far left at the most critical moment of the hostage negotiations. 11 more captives have been released by hamas and are now back in israeli territory. temporary cease-fire deal between israel and the terror group kenny extended for two more days. the white house says hamas is committed to releasing another 20 women and children over the next two days but so far only one american has been released. jeff paul is alive in tel aviv with more. >> we just got word that this latest group of hostages released by hamas are on their way right now to israeli hospitals to get treatment. get checked out. like the days before this happened, we saw some delays, like a few days ago. it speaks to how fragile the negotiations in the deal is between israel and hamas. here's what we know. two mothers and nine children, the youngest kids being just 3 years old were also learning that all those kids left their dance behind inside gaza where they are still being held by hamas. the day before, 14 israelis made the same journey where they join 36 others released in previous days. they are in some sort of stage of treatment after spending roughly seven weeks likely exclusively in the darkness of hamas tunnels. however, t still more than 100 hostages being held by hamas. we could see more being freed over the next two days as qatari officials broke the news that they are extending the temporary truce. israel had said they would extend the pause in fighting for one day for every ten additional hostages released. keep in mind once hamas stops releasing hostages israeli forces will likely resume combat operations in gaza to both eliminate hamas and get the remaining hostages out. >> we want to receive another additional 50 hostages. as soon that framework expires, israel will continue with full force towards those three objectives, eliminating hamas, making sure the gaza strip can never be a security threat to israel and releasing the hostages. >> as we sign previous days, more a trucks made their way into gaza. we are hearing that more palestinian prisoners, a group of more than 30 will be released just like in the previous days. jesse. >> jesse: jeff, thanks so much. so far, only one american hostage has been released. kirby getting pressed on that by martha. listen. >> we are very excited and the president was personally involved getting this extension. 20 more hostages over the next two days. this process is working. we are going to keep putting our energies and efforts -- >> was there any promise, when the president spoke to the premise jury in qatar, was there any promise that the next 48 hours we're going to see these americans? >> i will just tell you we made it plain and clear we want to see our american hostages home with their families. we are glad this got extended for a couple days. >> jesse: as the lives of americans paying the balance, joe biden is going back on this promise to fully support israel. the president secretly apologizing to a group of muslim americans forecasting excessive skepticism over the number of palestinian deaths released by the hamas-run ministry of health. instead of playing straight with them and expend white can't trust the terrorists, by telling them and i quote "i'm sorry. i'm disappointed in myself." judge jeanine, what do you think the president's calculations is in saying that behind-the-scenes to the muslim community? >> judge jeanine: to me it appears he's moving left. he knows the numbers right now are not good for him. two months ago and nbc poll, he was at 46% in september. today he set 31% among those ages 18 to 34. he has dropped 15 points among that group in the last two months. i think more than that, he's trying to move left to satisfy those people in the party, the progressives. the craziest part is this is the one time he was telling the truth and now he's going back on it, saying, you know, i'm sorry i really said that. but i think the biggest part of all of this besides the politics and it's almost as though you're seeing a movie. i feel like i'm watching a movie now with the palestinians standing hostages over and any second someone is going to get a call to say turn around. the craziest part of this is that now we've had i guess it's 74 attacks against american military in seven weeks. with well over 60 of our serve some head injury. shrapnel, traumatic brain injury, they could be lifelong brain injuries and you have john kerry singh this afternoon we sent them a strong message. he has not sent a strong message. america is basically said you and iraq and syria and euro proxies can hit our soldiers whenever you want. we're not going to respond. although i think we did tear we blew up garage or something. no one thursday a sense of intercontinental ballistic missile. were not responding to it. the first american soldier who dies as a result of these proxies funded by iran, the blood is going to be on the hands of joe biden because he's not taking this seriously enough. people like joe scarborough, and say thank god we've got joe biden. otherwise we would be in the world war. they are not understanding that in truth, unless we start blowing up bridges in iran, we are going to start getting hit ourselves. >> jesse: dana, one american hostage released so far. >> dana: i would be screaming bloody murder saying i'm not resting until the americans are home and you are not resting until the americans come home. no one involved and they should have a good night's sleep until the americans are home. we have ways to do that. and power. i understand all the nuances and everything and it's complicated, et cetera. but also on the homefront. this "washington post" story that had 27 sources, a lot of them anonymous about this meeting joe biden had at the white house that included a lot of muslim leaders as well as staff and they come to him and they say that they're upset because he said on -- at a press conference he said i have no notion the palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. so they want him to retract it. he says to them i'm sorry. i'm disappointed in myself for what i said. excuse me? first of all why would you think that, mr. president? why would you think the gazan health ministry would not be telling the truth? were they telling the truth about them that their headquarters underneath the hospital where the hostages were being held? he has this meeting instead of expending to them's decision-making process he says i'm sorry. we don't know all about the meeting. it was clearly leaked by the people that were in there. for the staffers that are in their complaining, guess what. you don't have to work there. and you work at the pleasure of the president. if i were them, i would say here's my position. here's how i got to it. i hear you. thank you. i respect your opinion. here's mine. if you're a staffer and you're so upset about it then you should leave. also the media protecting the staffers. 200 congressional staffers and 400 administration staffers. they don't release their names. do you think that would have been in the trump administration customer and of course not. the media would be all over it and making sure they do it. these people, they are the ones who say we are okay with higher gas prices if you get something for the climate movement. hey, it's okay to ban landlords from evicting people if we get something, even if it's unconstitutional, no problem. guess what. we'll do the same thing for student loans. there's a 10% to 20% of the american public pulling the president to the left and he's at risk of losing everybody else. but that most he's at risk of losing the principal that he has confidently been keeping since october 7. i think the israelis are concerned about it as much as they need him. >> greg: yeah, i think he just does what he's told. it was interesting he never apologized about the border patrol agents that he unfairly maligned. but that's because he wasn't told to. but i mean, i'll tell you how i feel about the hostage released. my feelings, i have to preface, mean nothing compared to the families. i can imagine the joy they feel seeing their family members come back. it's a wonderful thing. but having said that, for me i feel successfully manipulated. hamas kidnapped innocent people for this precise process to unfold. basically they robbed a human bank to get human currency, to hit the casino, they got the chips. and now we are playing by their rules. so i feel joy for the families but they also feel like hamas have really played this thing well. especially when you hear that the captors treated the captives well. that's part of the process. but to treat the captives well, first you had to capture them. and in the process of capturing them, you brutally killed and raped hundreds of innocent people. you can't let the stories in the process manipulate the court truth, the cause and effect behind it. i think we are in the rationalizing phase where we are rationalizing what's going on. okay, we are going to get this and we forget what began this. it's not the context of history. it started october 7. you have this sky news reporter. this was hilarious. accused israel of racism for getting 50 hostages in exchange for 50 palestinian prisoners. because israel wouldn't want 150 hostages because they don't believe that it's one-on-one. you idiots. hamas is calling the shots here. you think israel would want more? they want one to one but it's always been the case. that shows you how fed up the media is on this and it's incredible. anyway. >> jesse: everyone is talking about hamas releasing hostages. weeks ago we were talking on hamas slaughtering men, women, and children. >> harold: good to be back around the table. hope everyone had a great holiday. i don't think -- i agree with you, any staffer in the white house who disagrees with policy and the white house has every right to quit. >> dana: or they can do their job and accept the president is the president of the united states and yes, sir, mr. president. >> jesse: or they should quit. i wouldn't have met with anybody if i was the president of the united states with staffers who disagree. show the papers of the door. i give the president a lot of credit. although they said what they wanted to say about him and what they are thinking and leak something from the media. i can only tell you with the president is publicly doing. to the most highly sophisticated, highly equipped military assets in the region. it's given the israelis the protection to do it they are doing. greg, i agree. october 7, we cannot lose that essence the sight of what we are doing and why we are doing it. we have to understand if your national security advisor, you're on that team, you have to think about some of these th things. what happens when we went back? because we will win. for those who are active in our country and advocating on behalf of palestinians, you have every right to and i join you and wanting a two-state solution. if you belong so strongly that solution you should understand if hamas would release all the soldiers, the killing it in the gaza and west bank would stop because so many would ask israel to let's now reframe and reset and regroup how we go about trying to find a solution. if you're blaming israel or the united states for palestinian deaths after was happen last few days, the cease-fire came about because israel -- hamas decided to release soldiers from the outset. from the outset, president not now, i don't agree with him all the time but i agree with them here. we have to recover hostages and degrade hamas. we are getting hostages released. if you want the killing to stop in the west bank, if we want the killing to stop in gaza, release all the hostages. then we can have a reasonable, serious conversation. i would say to the president, i wouldn't waste my time entertaining the ideas and thoughts of some of my staff who are against my ideas and against our proposal and against our positions for let them quit. they have every right to. we live in a free country but you shouldn't be wasting your time if that's the position of the country. keep doing what you're doing. we are gaining progress. making progress. >> jesse: you're not saying that that would happen in a ford administration? 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>> jesse: paddle them. paddle the beejeezus out of them. i don't think you're allowed to do that anymore. but it's a confusing time when a teacher can sleep with a stu student. teaching them that white people are bad and two plus two is five and they can transition students. no one says anything. everybody just goes about their day. god forbid a teacher on the weekend goes to a pro-israel rally and holds a sign up. they hunt them down like an animal. that's crazy. you know what they are protesting? they are protesting a disproportionate response by israel. this is what we're doing. they're chasing this woman down like a dog. >> judge jeanine: not only that, it is during the cease-fire. >> jesse: we are having a guest on the show tonight who wants to blow up -- though not blow up the school. wants to shut down the school. blow up, i meant theoretically. totally shut down the school because this is a bad school and this can't go on. >> judge jeanine: you're absolutely right. hillcrest school has had a lot of problems. there are resource officers who are literally assaulted by kids in this school. they not only took turns punching this guy but they had a cop up against the wall and were beating him in the head. these are school resource officers. they know. >> dana: the other thing is you can tell from this. you said in the a block you felt like you are watching a movie. i feel like we are watching a dystopian movie. is this really america? they are feeding off each other. they meet up, they spread the information. there was an editorial that said there's a huge problem of phones being in classrooms and the schools. they were advocating for d.c. public schools to eliminate all phones in the classroom. fine, shut it down but where did they go? there's a fundamental, huge problem. there's nobody in new york seems to be suffering and need consequent is their actions except that i saw two women point on the posters, they were arrested. they were arrested. maybe that will be something that looks like a consequence. that will stop this behavior. you wonder, why do we have a teacher shortage in america? >> judge jeanine: i agree. free speech is one thing. the ability to protest peacefully is one thing but stopping traffic during the holidays and the manhattan bridge. >> harold: they have every right to. i have no problem. as much as it inconvenienced me. i was inconvenienced friday trying to pick my kids and wife up from going ice skating. sixth avenue was blocked. there was something that started, a pro-palestinian rally that started at washington square park. i agree with support they are protesting about. but it inconvenienced me. the violence, threatening a teacher. the three palestinian young men, college students killed in vermont. there is a place for protests and there's the kind of protest. if he inconvenienced us but certainly should not threaten us with violence even when we have protests that some of the school board meetings across the country. when i objected to was the violence and the threats of violence. you said how can you protest and call for a cease-fire when you're going to behave like that? that's a great juxtaposition. i hope it causes everybody to have a little self and understand just because we believe strongly in a point doesn't give us the right to act more feverishly and for that matter violently and about how much you think your point is right. whether you are right, you're wrong or whether i agree or disagree but i agree don't do it on a holiday weekend. >> jesse: i didn't know you can ice skate. he >> judge jeanine: his wife and kids. >> harold: i was going to pick them up. >> greg: i'm not sure it's about belief or attention. feels like this movement is blm with new catchphrases. it seems the only exercise these kids are getting is through protesting. movie that's for them. to those three palestinians die? >> judge jeanine: no. >> greg: i keep -- i wanted to briefly touch on it in the sense that how do you to students? are you capable of talking to them about something like this? the only thing you can do this is take their same hideous, immoral argument and apply it to something else. three palestinian men were shot in vermont. using the same logic by these protesters october 7. how would you frame it? place in the greater context. say that's just a response. to a greater adjustment. it's the same rationalization it was used in dismissing october 7. that's how you explain to a protester how this argument cannot work. it puts you in a cycle of violence. every historical grievance justifies another act therefore you can say these three people being shot is just part of historical justification which obviously is morally wrong but it's what is being used by the protesters. that's what you have to keep it simple. focus completely on not peop