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trump and biden take the stage in ten hours. we've seen them spar. last time around four years ago. a 90-minute contest this time that could have big consequences in november on election day. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." we're looking at the venue live right now in atlanta. and there is already a noticeable difference between the candidates and how they have gotten ready this week. president biden spent seven days doing mock debates with 16 advisors at camp david. we haven't seen him in a week. donald trump used multiple ways to prepare for tonight including very public events as he hit the campaign trail to talk and listen directly to voters. fox news chief political analyst brit hume said biden better be ready after spending a week away from the white house. >> the president, by the very nature of his or her job, his job so far, is cognizant of the details of the major issues. you have to deal with them all the time. so this level of preparation is unusual and obviously trying to get him mega prepared in the hope he can get through this encounter with donald trump and look like a vibrant man. >> harris: trump's 2024 national press secretary carolyn. >> i don't think it's getting enough attention how deeply concerning that is. the fact that the leader of the free world, the president of this country, cannot debate prep and also govern at the same time? we haven't seen joe biden in an entire week. we expect him to be prepared tonight i would hope after a whole week hiding away with advisors he will be ready to go. >> harris: take note of this. a "new york times" poll released yesterday now shows former president trump ahead four points nationally. it is within the margin of error. however, this is significant, as all of the previous polls have shown president biden as the frontrunner or the two of them tied. now trump is ahead by four points. the same poll also shows that voters think trump would do a better job of handling the issues that matter to them most. we'll hear each candidate's plan to tackle the hot topics tonight. americans are ready to tune in. 73% say they are likely to tune in and watch. both campaigns are playing offense off the debate stage. team biden rolled out a blitz that includes a full page print ad in usa today. 50 billboards across atlanta some taking direct shots at trump. trump's campaign will air two ads during the debate with biden tonight. senior white house correspondent jacque heinrich with more. ten hours. a little less than that now. >> a little less. we're all gearing up for that. the trump campaign is predicting interference from cnn's moderators and an energetic biden supported by performance-enhancing drugs. the biden campaign is predicting a slew of lies that they have a fact checked memo before anything is said. they list important trump lies to look out for on abortion, crime, economy, immigration and more. according to reports campaign staffers have been drafting jabs for biden reviewing trump's recent social media posts and appearances to gauge what gets under his skin the most. in recent days biden surrogates have been calling trump a loser during tv interviews. a term he hates and put up billboards welcoming him as a convicted felon. according to one report biden will make an early effort to try to deny the results of the 2020 election. >> he is not going to present the donald trump who has been out at his maga rallies on the stump. the problem for trump he will have to answer for all the things he has been saying at the maga rallies. >> in recent days trump's campaign has tried to reset expectations for biden after attacking his age and mental acuity saying they expect the president tonight will be ready after his week-long study session at camp david. they are not entirely abandoning the age issue with this new ad. >> do you think the guy who was defeated by the stairs makes it four more years in the white house? and you know who is waiting behind him, right? vote joe biden today, get kamala harris tomorrow. >> a new poll shows 16% of voters could change their choice for president based on the performances tonight. the debate will be 90 minutes long with mic's muted and donald trump gets the last word because biden chose the right-hand podium. the president departs for atlanta in the next hour. we haven't seen him for a week and looking forward to that. >> harris: that seems like a high number since we have been told all along most people know who they will vote for and they are watching for entertainment. something has changed that calculus. you put it at 16% according to quinnipiac? >> that's something when you consider all of the talk about they election is opinions are baked in and two people who served as president before and debated before. a shift there, harris. >> harris: thank you very much. let's get started again. fox top debate headline here tonight could change the narrative in a massive way. it comes from matt gorman, former campaign advisor to senator tim scott. he says also to put it simply debates move numbers in a way nothing else does. the narratives formed on thursday night may harden into concrete showing up and performing well in atlanta is crucial. in "focus" now jason chaffetz. former republican congressman of utah and fox news contributor. i was just talking to jacque. 16% of people could change their minds on who they would want to vote for based on what they think they know now. that is a shift. >> yeah, that's a little bigger than i thought it would be. the persuadeable middle is who you are talking with. i think the donald trump base is with donald trump no matter what. joe biden on the other hand has a problem because his base has been shifting from underneath his feet. so when they get into issues like gaza and israel, we'll find out how ire clad that relationship with israel really is. >> harris: the polling as we know it to be is a mix of everybody and people who don't even really check a box. they are independent. recent fox polling shows 50% of voters think former president trump will win tonight's debate. 45% say they believe president biden will win the debate. "new york post" argues the real winner will be whoever manages to avoid looking like and able to paint his opponent as this election cycle's chaos candidate. jason. >> i think there is a lot of truth to that. i think most americans believe that there is a degree of incompetence and cognitive decline with joe biden and why the expectations are low. he is a sitting president of the united states. he has been taking a nap for a week. i don't know why you have to have 16 advisors watch somebody take a nap. that's what he has been doing. the president has no excuse. he better hit it out of the park in order to show that he has got four more vigorous years on the toughest job on the planet. donald trump is like an energy bunny. he never stops. there is an expectation that donald trump will do really well and i'm sure a little quip here and there. joe biden, let's make sure he doesn't drool. but what other excuse does he have? what excuse does he have? he is well rested, he has been the sitting president and he has been there since 1972. if you haven't figured it out, mr. president, since 1972, you are telling us you need four more years? i don't think america is buying that. >> harris: he has been in politics for that long. i would say this, some of the things we're hearing from the trump camp is yes, he is energized and all of those things but there is caution from that first debate when the first two men met years ago that he not be overly that way. i wonder if the muted mic if that makes a difference. >> there is no way -- have you ever seen donald trump get through a debate without making some extra comment in the middle? no. i hope that we see the donald trump who just talks from his heart. you know what? the reason these are so unpredictable, the reason the audience will be so big is it's because the bantier back and forth. that's exactly what america wants to see. >> harris: i hope it is also for the issues. we have serious things going on in the country and the biden border crisis is a full blown disaster. voters are telling fox the issues they want to hear about. let's watch. >> all of the millions that have come across the border. what are you going to do with them? >> financially the country is not being run well right now. >> jobs, everybody needs work. right now they have a whole lot of immigrants out here from different places. immigrants are human and people but it is a lot of favor itism going toward the immigrants. >> entertainment at this point. >> harris: dan henninger says don't hold your breath. we'll likely see a quote trump/biden cage match. jason, you know, it isn't surprising to hear the border and say the top five but it is now when you ask people it is popping and that report about those 400 men who came across our border now from dhs and cbp from the border patrol we now know that over 100 of them they are looking at for ties to isis, an isis smuggling group brought all those people over. they want to know which ones are terrorists. i don't know that isis smuggles people who aren't interested in terrorism. that's fuel some of this. that is headlines today. it is hard to cover up 400 people. >> you start to hear about these murders and vicious rapes and other things. this new story coming out today in upstate new york. i think it will continue. when you have ten to 20 million people that have come here that are here illegally, this is going to be a daily drumbeat. there could not be a wider contrast between joe biden and donald trump than on the issue of immigration. joe biden -- for three years they told us the border was safe and secure and operational control. that was a lie. now the inner cities in particular are really feeling it. when your kids' school has three new students in it and can't speak english and the teacher is having to spend time with them, that impacts everybody. so it is not just crime, it is the total influx of this issue. it should be a tier one issue and a big choice for the voters when they go to the polls. >> harris: jason chaffetz, great to kick things off with you as our first guest. appreciate it. be sure to watch it here. pre-debate coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern and watch the debate here on fox and right after that the best analysis anywhere. 10:30 p.m. eastern. democrats and republicans are courting black voters big time ahead of tonight's debate. the critical voting block could be in play in a tight election. biden is losing them by double digits. people of color. interesting to see if they get into that tonight. critics unloaded on dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas after his comments when he was at the border yesterday. >> mayorkas has no clue what's going on at the border or consequences. they failed every step of the way. jocelyn would be alive today had joe biden implemented a secure border plan. >> harris: the governor is talking about 12-year-old jocelyn nungaray allegedly murdered by two illegal immigrants. some democrat lawmakers say biden's policies bear no responsibility. she is laid to rest today. our prayers with her mom and the rest of her family. sean duffy is here next to me in "focus" next. so i hired body doubles. 30,000 followers tina in a boutique hotel. or 30,000 steps tina in a mountain cabin. ooh! booking.com booking.yeah there's an old saying in the navy that the toughest job in the navy is a navy wife. and if you've made the deployments and you've been the wife at home, or you've been the spouse at home, you understand what i'm talking about. your spouse has earned the right to apply for a va home loan. the newday 100 loan allows you to borrow up to 100% of your home's value. so if you're in a situation where you need some help financially, give us a call. no, my denture's uncomfortable! dracula, let's fight back against discomfort. with new poligrip power max hold & comfort. it has superior hold plus keeps us comfy all day with it's pressure absording layer. time for a bite! if your mouth could talk it would ask for... poligrip. every day, more dog people, and more vets are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. they're quitting the kibble. and kicking the cans. and feeding their dogs dog food that's actually well, food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. get 50% off your first box at thefarmersdog.com/realfood it's pain o'clock! let's do this! sorry, pain. i can't let you in. what? 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>> i think i answered -- i think i answered the questions because i talked about immigration. >> you didn't answer the question. are you politicizing this? >> the biden administration reached an agreement with leader mcconnell to address it. it is not about immigration. >> harris: she got the party started and when she clamped down she wanted the party to go away. some democratic lawmakers aren't even acknowledging jocelyn's murder. >> the research is that undocumented immigrants do fewer crimes than anyone else. >> are these crimes preventable if we didn't parole them into the country. >> i live in pittsburgh. >> there was a child who was killed -- >> i don't know anything about it. >> harris: we live in america and we know who that child victim is. pittsburgh, not a separate part of the country is it? sean duffy sitting next to me. conservative media watchdog. networks mostly silent on the bond killer for jocelyn's killer. the alphabet soup networks, all of them chose not to cover it. "the new york times" has published exactly one story on jocelyn's death. and this is how it's framed. the killing of jocelyn nungaray has become the latest crime seized on by republicans to attack president biden over his immigration policy. biden's border crisis and illegal immigrant crime likely to come up at tonight's debate. i hope so. sean duffy, former republican congressman from wisconsin and co-host of the bottom line on fox business. it's interesting to see what's happening on the left. when you ask them about it, they pretend like their cities are in different countries, pittsburgh, what continent is that on? >> yeah, but also the fact that we have a debate tonight. i hope immigration comes up. the problem is, you have cnn, it's in the bag for joe biden and you also have the two moderators in the bag for joe biden. i hope it comes up in a fair way that the american people want to know what the policy positions of both candidates are. i'm not holding my breath. i think they want to see questions come to joe biden that work for joe biden. that judge, how stupid can a judge be to engage in politics as opposed to dispensing justice. and mayorkas to say the crime belongs on the back of the criminal. that's true. but also the guy who let the criminal into our homes and communities to commit those crimes. joe biden is at fault. not just the criminal himself. >> harris: we expect the border to be a big topic. you and i are hopeful. it has to be a strategy, though. they have got to bring it up. i'm sure donald trump will. >> yes. >> harris: conservative group ad will also air shredding joe biden over illegal immigrant violence. we want to show you a clip now. >> it just keeps happening. lakin riley wasn't the first. in joe biden's america, sadly, she won't be the last. >> harris: effective? >> i think so. it feeds into the narrative that the american people already believe on the southern border. they've seen the mass of people coming across the border and the massive amount of people in their communities and hear about the crime. it plays into a narrative that americans already think is true. how does joe biden address it? it is his problem. trying to put it back on the shoulders of donald trump. the massive flow of 15 million people coming into the country is donald trump's fault? that's not going to work. >> harris: i want to touch on this. it is not just the massive flow of people trying to come here, it is the gaming the system by the drug cartels and actually when trump said this years ago, he got a lot of criticism, but they are coming. some of the worst of their countries. look at the guys from venezuela right now who are illegal immigrants crossed into this country and suspects in murders. it's pretty unbelievable. now this isis report. >> there is no way to vet millions of people who come into the country. it's impossible. when you talk to those with knowledge on the southern border you have renault high school graduates in charge of vetting. no vetting is happening at all which is why you can let the criminals come across the southern border. no one knows who they are. that's the problem. again, i think the cost is a big deal, too. whether the phones, the food, the housing, the transportation, but ron desantis in florida just asking the question if they are an illegal migrant he cut the costs of medicaid by 50%. >> harris: when you talk about the vetting, you know that it's bad when an isis smuggling ring actually side-by-side to the cartels now is in on the game at our border. gaming the system getting people into this country and fanning them out and we don't know where they are. former lieutenant governor mccoy says biden's open border infected america with a plague. it is called the u.n. calls it assault, rape and murder of girls and women due to their gender. rape where women's underwear hangs from tree branches and rape tents dot the route approaching our southern border. do you think the rapes stop when illegals cross into the united states? no. being victimized by migrants bringing it to your neighborhood and she goes on to point out the silence from all the women's groups on this. >> they care more about the democrat party than women's issues and protecting women. this calls them out very loudly on their position in the silence on it. i do think abortion will be an issue in this campaign season. but when you look at women in neighborhoods walking down the street and going for the run, going to a convenience store like jocelyn. when you aren't safe you see moms and dads and daughters across the country freaking out. i think the safety of the american people. when you have rape trees, rape trees, rape tents and those people are being allowed into our country by joe biden? you want to see people get ticked off? >> harris: what did we think was going to happen putting up tents at the southern border. remember now people had broken out of the prison and there was all talk about how many of them would come over. if they had committed those crimes there, what do you think they are going to do and where do you think they'll practice that? i hate to even think of it because these are real women and children who are caught up in this. but they are basically practicing the sex trafficking that they will, you know, perpetrate in our country. >> you and i knew that. what did joe biden think would happen? i think he did know and he thinks letting all of these illegal migrants into the country was worth the cost of these young people and women being abused, violated and raped. >> harris: thank you. documents show a top government health official pressuring medical experts to cut the age limit guidelines on transgender surgery. that means that would make it younger and younger. critics are accusing the biden administration of pushing the democrats' agenda. artificial intelligence making it easier to create and share explicit photographs of children online. many of the victims are teenagers. >> it just felt like our whole four years of high school was all coming down in that moment. seeing that these images were on my phone, i was shocked. i was scared and i couldn't even -- i didn't know what to do. >> harris: so amazing, as they bravely speak out about their experiences and the bipartisan effort now led my senator ted cruz and others to put a stop to it. you will meet the two young girls next. estaurant noise) [announcer] introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. allison! over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing otezla for over a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. ♪ [announcer] with clearer skin girls' day out is a good day out. live in the moment. ask your doctor about otezla. why choose a sleep number smart bed? 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>> a white house spokesperson tells folks the administration does not support surgery for minors. one doctor tells us levine doesn't have the right to endanger american children. >> the puberty blockers and hormones and surgery are permanent, disfiguring, sterilizing and the entire package of transgender care increases the burden of psychiatric disease and mortality. >> the question of whether and when teens should be allowed to go the surgery has sparked a heated debate. >> harris: a disturbing growing online risk. deepfake child pornography. non-consensual videos are being uploaded to social media sites and there are countless victims. many of them are young teenage girls. now lawmakers are fighting to protect girls and women. republican senator ted cruz and democratic senator amy klobuchar introduced the take it down act. it would require internet sites to remove deepfakes within 48 hours. senator cruz held a hearing yesterday with victims and advocates to highlight exactly what has to happen immediately. >> if you are a victim of revenge or a.i. generated explicit imagery in the internet age, your life changes permanently. due to advances in technology, now anyone can become a victim. and it is increasingly affecting a particularly vulnerable population, teenage girls. in each case, this cruel filth was then sent to classmates, further exploiting and embarrassing the victims. >> harris: you are about to meet two of those teenage victims who testified at that hearing with senator cruz. they talked about how it all unfolded. watch. >> well, i had broken up on a monday morning with a bunch of messages from a friend notifying that photos of me as well as her and another one of our friends was going around school. there were these a.i. nude images of us. as the week continued, more and more photos of different friends got released and there was a total of nine girls involved. a student used an a.i. app and removed our clothing off of us and he got these photos from instagram and proceeded to send them out through snapchat. >> harris: so are they still up? >> no, ma'am. we were able to get these images down but after 8 1/2 months of trying to get in contact with snapchat. >> harris: to further this, from reeding about your story the nightmare continues even if the pictures are taken down. first of all, what happened in your case and what are you dealing with now with some of the boys involved? >> yes. well, on october 20th i was a confirmed victim, confirmed a.i. victim. i just wanted to say that my school, you know, schools are supposed to teach students what is right and what's wrong and currently my school is teaching the boys that what they have done is okay and teaching the girls that they have to just deal with it. and they haven't got any serious punishment. only one of the boys from the group got suspended for only one day. i just think that's extremely unfair. >> harris: are you still seeing these boys at your school? >> yes. they are currently attending my school. they are attending classes, attending classes with confirmed a.i. victims, including myself. >> harris: that has to be so tough. i have see you nodding along. that's part of your journey, i would imagine as well. >> yes. it was really frustrating because we were told that the student that did this would be attending school after the semester, after he was suspended for a semester, but then he -- we were told by the school that he would continue to come back to school but his parents had taken him out. >> harris: as you put the onus on the schools it sounds like they are out of touch with technology now and not keeping up. there are states including the largest school district in the country looking at taking phones out of schools. do you think that would help, not having that realtime access to working on those items among themselves as students or would it not even matter? >> so you know what i think that schools should do? i think that schools all around the u.s. should update their school a.i. policies. because i know right now my school policies, they include walkmans and pagers. i don't even know what that is. i think this technology is so advancing and growing that we have to grow alongside of it and learn how to protect ourselves from a.i. >> harris: walkman cassette players with headphones is still in the writing for some of these schools to talk about how to protect you from artificial intelligence. that's rich. real quickly, what has been the toughest part for you throughout all of this and what do you kind of want to tell other girls about? >> well, it has been difficult to jump back into the swing of things. these images had made me and probably all the other victims live in fear they will resurface. i think the most important message is you are not alone and right when these images were released, i felt hopeless and i was scared and i convinced myself my future was ruined. these images could appear when i am applying for jobs or for colleges. but just in eight or nine months i have been able to have so many opportunities able to change any stories and how bills like this get implemented where i'm not only protecting myself but so many other girls and anyone involved. i just wanted to share that you are not alone if this is happening to you. >> harris: god bless you both and glad you are okay. i often will say if it's on the internet it never really dies. senator cruz and other republicans are working it sounds to get stuff taken down as fast as possible. i wish you both the best. the brightest 15-year-olds now and we're so proud of you as i'm going to speak for other moms and i'm sure they would be, too. ladies, thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: after that interview i spent a little more time with the girls. one told me she hopes to become a therapist and the other was inspired by lawmakers and wants to pursue a career-in-law. they are both now just 15. top polling expert nate silver revealed his first presidential election forecast in advance of tonight's debate. he says the race is not a toss-up. plus the far left squad and other liberals are outraged over congressman bowman's primary loss. >> we should all be extremely concerned about the role of big money. that race is everything that is wrong with american politics. >> harris: or your bad rap and dance. democrats are blaming big money for bowman's defeat especially one super pac. and more far left liberals could be on the chopping block. stay close. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. 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"new york times" appeared to quietly change the headline to an article about bowman's loss. the original headline was this. bowman falls in house primary overtaken by a flood of pro-israel money and then a new headline went this. bowman falls to latimer in a loss for progressive democrats. the original, and the truth on the right. he had spewed anti-semitic things and so many problems. bowman was also the man who falsely pulled that fire alarm at the capitol when he was trying to stop a vote on the house floor. another squad member could also be at risk for her seat. missouri congresswoman cori bush faces a august primary challenge. a county prosecutor is leading bush by a point and the same poll had bush up by double digits in january. as the 2024 primary season winds down, one of the biggest losers has been the progressive movement. the israel/hamas conflict created a war in the democratic party and threatened to fracture forever what was once a solid anti-trump voting block. doug schoen is with me now. talk about the split in the party and you've just lost a member of the squad after two of them tried to save his seat on stage over the weekend. he was coupled by the dancing and rapping aoc. >> yeah, i think this is a good outcome for the democratic party. i don't think it fractures the coalition against donald trump. i think it enhances it. israel has been and will remain hopefully our stable democratic ally in the middle east. our most important ally who shares our values. they are in a war and the squad and as we've spoken about before, is far left, they support a terrorist group, many of them, hamas, or certainly the aims of hamas, and frankly i think this is not billionaire big money but an interest supporting american values that achieved a result that's good for the democrats and good for america. >> harris: one more quick question on this. i'm curious to know how it got this far down the road. you and i talked a couple of years ago and it was like the far left are outliers, they are front and center now and now they are eight, no longer nine of them and possibly fewer. we don't know what will happen with the next primary challenge. but how did they get -- how did they amass that much power and attention? >> well, i think during the pandemic, they had an initial burst of success with anti-systemic, anti-police, anti-criminal justice rhetoric and anti-american foreign policy. it had initial success. i think what we're seeing now is something hopeful, a reaction against it and george latimer and wesley bell are mainstream democrats who support values close to mine, hopefully this is a continuation of a trend that will go on. >> harris: look, if the trend continues the way they are going right now and they can scoop up that uncommitted, unconstructed vote in certain states it will hurt joe biden. that very group is inciting people to really believe that the genocide joe signs and all of that. it is interesting that divide in your party this close to an election. >> it is. i would prefer my party trying to reach out to the center to swing voters. and whatever far left voters there are who are not going to accept joe biden, who for all his faults, is a mainstream democrat, you know what? i'm comfortable with that. i would rather fight an election for american values, not to try to capitulate to people who don't share our values and support. >> harris: you better call biden. >> he is failing both ways. >> harris: the polls show that. nate silver is predicting former president donald trump will win more than 65% of the electoral college this november. that is compared with president biden at a bit more than a 33% chance. civil rights quote biden is really not that far behind but the race is in a toss-up. that's at best a white lie, convenient fiction that allows everyone to shirk accountability for their forecasts and decisions. >> my reaction is that is exact will i right. seven swing states. those in the south, nevada, arizona, georgia, perhaps north carolina solidly in trump's camp. minnesota, wisconsin, pennsylvania, toss-ups. basically trump is well ahead. if he wins, say, pennsylvania, it is all over and right now he is either ahead by a little or tied and every indicator, african-americans, hispanics, younger people, are moving to trump suggesting to me that what nate silver says is exactly right. it is not a toss-up. it is advantage trump. >> harris: it is always interesting to talk to you as someone on the left. it was on my show years ago that you said i'm not voting for hillary clinton and that caused a huge ruckus. i wanted to know that you would be okay in the holidays and have a place to eat dinner. all right, good to see you. thank you so much. tune in tonight for the first presidential debate this season. pre-game at 8:00 p.m. eastern. debate watch right here at fox on 9:00 p.m. expert analysis at 10:30 p.m. eastern. don't miss it. 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