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hostages released now up to 99, two more women were freed by hamas in the past couple of hours. today, though, fears that new violence including a deadly shooting in jerusalem could derail the truce in hopes of bringing more hostages home. a single sentence was all it took in appeals court. we've got an update on that case. plus, on what could be his last full day in congress, republican george santos attacking his colleagues for trying to bully him, as he puts it, out of washington. his wild -- and i mean wild -- press conference, and why he's spending what could be his final hours in office trying to get another lawmaker expelled. we want to start, though, with the hour-by-hour, minute by minute negotiations happening to keep a truce between israel and hamas in place. remember, it was a last minute deal just beforeidnight our time that kept the fighting on pause for one more day allowing for the release of more hostages today. hours ago, the israeli government announcing that these two women, 21-year-old nya schem and amit soussana have been released. more than 140 others still being held in gaza. today a potentially troubling setback during the peace talks. hamas claiming responsibility for a deadly shooting that killed three people at a bus stop in jerusalem. hamas says it was in response to an israeli raid in the west bank that killed two palestinian children. in addition, the israeli military saying it intercepted a, quote, suspicious aerial target fired from lebanon. that is the first time there has been cross border fire since this truce began. i want to bring in nbc's erin mclaughlin who's been following all of this for us from tel aviv. good to talk to you. give us the latest, if you will, on the hostages and the negotiations to extend this truce. (. >> reporter: well so far today two hostages have been released, 21-year-old mia schem. she was featured in one of the first hostage videos to be released by hamas following the october attacks and 40-year-old amit soussana. al jazeera broadcasting footage it says was shot in downtown gaza city. you see a large crowd gathered. you see hamas militants taking the women out of their vehicles, transferring them to the red cross, and the reason this is shocking is because just weeks ago the israeli military said that it had control over northern gaza, that hamas was no longer in control of this territory, and yet, we see this scene today, hamas clearly sending a message to the israeli government that it is not going anywhere, seen as a flex. now, we are waiting for ten more hostages to be released today. still no word on when that could happen. the israeli officials say they expect it to happen relatively soon. yasmin. >> erin, talk to me about this shooting in jerusalem in response, as they say, to the raid in the west bank. >> reporter: yeah, there was a terror attack in jerusalem, this morning was caught on camera. footage shows two men getting out of a vehicle and opening fire at a bus stop. the bus stop in a strategic location. it was early morning rush hour. on the main thoroughfare connecting tel aviv to jerusalem, killing three, injuring 13. hamas has claimed responsibility for that attack pointing to a litany of grievances from the siege on gaza to what happened in the west bank yesterday when two palestinian boys, ages 8 and 15 were shot and killed by israeli forces. israeli forces alleging that the boys had been part of a group that had explosives. palestinians denying that, nevertheless, raising tensions in the west bank, and of course all of this happening amidst a backdrop of the u.s. secretary of state visiting jerusalem earlier this morning. we heard from the israeli prime minister saying that pointing to this attack, saying that israel will not stop until hamas is eliminated, and all this as secretary of state is trying to secure an extension for the cease fire as well as more aid into gaza. now, in terms of that extension, this current pause expires at midnight, still no word if or when the cease fire will be extended going forward, once the next tranche, the ten hostage are released. >> we just mentioned mia schem, we just got in the moment in which mia schem's mother found out she was being released, let's watch that. >> relief, happiness, celebration for a family torn apart and now reunited. for the third time since this war began, secretary of state tony blinken is in israel trying to keep the hostage negotiations on track. for more moments like the one we just saw. i want to bring in allie raffa who's been covering the white house to talk more about this. i'm wondering if you can detect really any shift here in the public or private messaging the u.s. is giving israel as they try to extend the cease fire? >> reporter: yeah, there certainly has been a public shift -- at least publicly, a shift in messaging from u.s. officials to their israeli counterparts. you know, since this war began, we've heard u.s. officials say publicly that they fully support what they say is israel's right and responsibility to defend itself. but words of caution that we know had been shared privately in the past week or so have shifted publicly as well. with u.s. officials much more explicitly telling their israeli counterparts to take caution and be careful and try more to protect innocent civilian life in gaza, to be more surgical in their attacks in gaza, and we've seen that become an extremely divisive issue for the president in the united states as we've seen the death toll in gaza surge, as we've seen those horrific images coming out of gaza before this cease fire. and as you mentioned, this is blinken's third trip now to the middle east since this war began. his shule diplomacy before this cease fire has bn credited with even achieving that, and according to a state department spokesperson during his meeting with prime minister nyahu, he said -- blinken assured netanyahu could count on u.s. support, but he add that had requires israel's compliance with international humanitarian law, and he urged israel to take everyble measure to avoid civilian harm. the spokesperson saying that blinken, quote, stressed the imperative of accounting for humanitarian and civilian protection needs in southern gaza before any military operations there. remember, that's where the israelis were telling the palestinians to go before they conducted their military operations, and he also urged immediate steps to hold settler extremists accountable for violence against palestinians in the west bank, blinken also, according to this spokesperson stressed the u.s. remains committed to a peace process in gaza that will eventually lead to the creation of a palestinian state. that's something that we've heard the president echo. he talked about that on sunday after the release of the 4-year-old american hostage abigail idan. much sharper language from u.s. administration officials as we've heard the israelis say now that once the cease fire does eventually end, they fully expect and plan to resume their military operations in gaza, yasmin. >> nbc's allie raffa for us, thank you, appreciate it. i want to bring in a man who dedicated his career to u.s. peacemaking, ambassador dennis ross, served as u.s. special envoy for mideast talks spending more than a decade under president george h.w. bush and president clinton. he also served as special assistant to president obama and is counselor at the washington institute for middle east policy. i want to pick up on where allie left off dh is the kind of shifting in the way in which the biden administration is communicating their policy. there certainly has been a marked shift in the way they're talking about it and talking with israel about it as well. what do you make of that as the prime minister of israel, bibi netanyahu looks to resume this conflict, this war? >> look, i think that the shift in tone reflects, i think, the reality that there is more pressure to try to bring about a cease fire, and the administration understands if you actually have a cease fire, not just the pauses that we're seeing, but if you have a cease fire, it's going to leave hamas in control of gaza. and if hamas is in control of gaza, you can talk about two states, but there's no possibility of it. so on the one hand, it recognizes that. it also needs to create the time and space that is necessary to be able to allow the israelis to do it, and if there isn't more done to reduce the palestinian casualties, the civilian palestinian casualties f there isn't more done to ensure that humanitarian assistance goes in, it becomes increasingly difficult to provide that time and space. so what you're really getting is a message to the israeli, okay, we support your right and even your need to do this, but we also understand that if we're going to -- if we're going to have a day after in which hamas is not there, there needs to be an arab world that is also prepared to embrace that and assume a set of responsibilities, and if there are two many palestinian casualties, it's going to be increasingly difficult to get to that point. so there's a strategic imperative that i think the administration is trying to convey to the israelis that is actually the same strategic imperative we both share, but there's a context which makes this more likely and a context which makes it much harder to achieve. i think that's why you're seeing the shift in tone. in addition, i'd just make one other point. >> yeah. >> i think the administration wants to be seen by the arabs as making a real effort to reduce the palestinian casualties and also to ensure that the needs of the palestinians who were there and who have been asked to move to the south get addressed. that's designed to take some of the heat off of arab governments who are feeling pressure from their own publics. >> do you think there's any chance that this cease fire could be extended considering the raid in the west bank, the shooting in jerusalem, but also to tack onto that obviously there's still many hostages being held inside gaza that netanyahu has said repeatedly he must bring home. >> i don't rule out that we'll see an extension of the pause, you know. will it go on for another week, that would probably at this point not in the cards. but for another couple of days, i think there is -- that still is probably more likely than not, with all the fragility, with everything that's fraught about this, there is a kind of interesting convergence of interest. the israelis, as you just said, they want to get more hostages out. and hamas uses that time to regroup. they were under enormous military pressure. that shot we saw of hamas two women in gaza city, that wouldn't have been possible if there wasn't a pause. and the pause allows them to regroup, move some of their fighters and leaders around, so they have an interest in extending the pause as long as possible, and the israelis have an interest in getting more hostages out. even though it could well break down because you have the events of today, there still is a kind of mutual interest, at least i wouldn't say mutual, but at least there's a converging interest that creates in my mind at least, the potential for this being extended a couple more days at least. >> ambassador, while i have you, i want you to weigh in on the passing of former secretary of state henry kissinger at the age of 100. i know that you knew him. you have spoken with him many times. what should we take away from his legacy? >> you know, he was an extraordinary secretary of state, not only because he knew how to negotiate and he understood the dynamics of international politics, but he was also one of the great conceptualizers about geopolitics generally. this is a guy who at 100 was still writing a book. you know, he had a book that came out last year. i did an interview with him because i'm also going to be doing a biography of him, and i have to say, i did this six weeks ago, and we spent an hour and a half, and i covered a range of issues, and he was remarkably acute. i mean, his insights, even at the age of 100 were still pretty extraordinary, and somehow until the very last moment, he was still extremely active, and that kind of intellectual dynamism really never went away. >> ambassador, thank you, i appreciate it. >> sure. >> coming up next, we're following breaking news out of new york where an appeals court reinstated the gag order against donald trump in his civil fraud trial. we are back in just 60 seconds. s ned's plaque psoriasis. 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