never go away. >> -- kaitlan, your reporting, it's so great that you won a pulitzer. it's so deserved. this is one of the essential stories of our times, and you are a great chronicler of it. thank you for doing that, for all of us to remind ourselves who we are as a country. that is our show for this evening, now it's time for the last word with ali velshi in for lawrence, good evening. >> caitlin is the reporter for the ages on this particular story, which goes in and out of fashion for the right sometimes. it's the biggest story, and then sometimes, we forget for months. what your story tonight told us was that you might forget about this. this might not be the biggest thing on your agenda. you might be thinking about israel or ukraine or inflation or whatever it is. these people don't have places to sleep tonight. it's cold outside in your city. >> in new york city, around the roosevelt hotel down the street from where we work. we need to see them again. >> we have effectively -- it is a dehumanization of sorts. there are things that we talk about. they are pawns, as you describe. you're store humanize it and remind people, whatever you are doing, whatever your real passions are, whatever is important to you, there are many different things going on, there are these people around you who are new to this place, and they don't speak the language, and they are scared for their children. and they are just like you. they just want peace and shelter and health care and food. thank you for doing that, i appreciate it. >> hey, thank, thank, thank the good people doing the hard work. thank you, my friend. have a good show. >> i'll see you next week. -- to give birth despite a risk to her life. and if that sounds hyperbolic, it's not. that's what's happening, right now, tonight to kate cox, at 31-year-old mother of two who was forced to big a texas court for an emergency abortion, ones she discovered that her fetus had a fatal genetic condition. her doctor warned her that her health and ability to have more children would be at risk if she did not terminate the pregnancy. the judge agreed, that she met the medical requirements obtain an abortion, even in texas. even under the states restrictive ban, calling it a miscarriage of justice to force or to continue with a non viable and potentially armful pregnancy but that was not enough for the texas republican attorney general. ken paxton, a man we could talk about at length another night, is threatening in writing to prosecute any hospital form of abortion under this law. the day, accident as the supreme court to intervene. >> before we were in this, i would never imagine that we would be in this position. like i said, i never thought that we would need or want an abortion. i always wanted a big family. i think forcing me to continue the pregnancy but the pain and suffering, put me through the risk of continuing the pregnancy, the risk of childbirth, again, especially given how my last two went, i think it's cool. >> it is cruel. it's a dystopian. this is handmaid's tale stuff. a woman, already a mother, pregnant with a wanted child, dealt with a terrifying and frightening prognosis, as the republican attorney general and republican activists in texas overriding the advice of her doctor. texas's antiabortion laws already being challenged in court who say that the state then puts their lives in danger by denying them medically necessary abortions. this is the post-roe world created by republicans. voters have repeatedly shown, they do not want these extreme near total abortion bans with little or no exceptions for rape, incest or the life of the mother, even in red states. kansas, kentucky, ohio, republicans will not be stopped by mere voters. this week, new hampshire republicans propose a 15-day, you heard that right, a 15-day abortion ban. the new republic reports that a mere one day after medical experts say detection is even possible, via start but tests, close to conception. house bill 12:40 afn would also attack on criminal penalties to any of care providers performing abortions, categorizing the offense as a class b felony and potential fines ranging from 10,000 to $100, 000, and quote. my actually passed by the way. the bill might actually pass, even though an overwhelming majority of new hampshire voters support keeping abortion legal. , as is the case in america. the associated press reports that in missouri, republicans have introduced a bill to be considered and the legislative session that begins next month to apply homicide laws on behalf of a victim who is an unborn child at every stage of development, and quote. every stage of development. consider this a reminder, as we head into 2024. elections have consequences. today, voters in once they are finally getting the protections that they voted for. about initiative to enshrine abortion rights in ohio state constitution is in effect today, after voters recently voted to protect a woman's right to bodily autonomy overriding the states abortion ban. of course, how republicans are still appealing this in court. joining us now is dr. lauren beene, founder and executive director of ohio physicians, for women's productive rights. doctor beene, thank you for being with. this event in ohio, this is no sure thing. it was two votes. there was finally a referendum to get this done. there are two votes, like a tricky vote to start with, and then having not succeeded in that, the antiabortion forces changed the methodology for the actual vote. and yet, and yet, ohioans took to the polls, maybe in some cases, put some of their personal beliefs about abortion aside and held up the fundamental belief, but take my rights away from me as an american. >> absolutely, ali, the people in ohio came out and voted very recently in support of the people making their own reproductive health care decisions. the impact of that goes far beyond issue one. it's really a statement by the people of ohio that medical decisions, including reproductive health care decisions, including those involving abortion, should be made by people, in consultation with their medical provider. and they should not be made by government officials, politicians, extremists, extremists running many of our state governments. because when those extremists try to take over and try to make decisions for people, then people suffer. people get hurt, and people die. and people realize that, right? they know that they want to make their own health care decisions. in ohio, we saw that, just like we did in several states in 2022, where the people came out, and they have come out over and over again now, saying, hey, i want to make my own health care decisions, i don't want my extremist politicians making that for me. >> one of the interesting things here, for some people, when roe felt was an abstraction, the idea that states would be okay, and then we found out that states are very draconian and i want to take that right away. ultimately, in ohio and other places, kansas and other states, there were activists on the ground, making sure that people didn't, but people answered the call. they came out and said, i will vote to protect, not just my rights, your rights. >> yes, more than, that people came out at the beginning, so shortly after roe fell, our organization formed. i am one of the cofounders and executive directors of ohio physicians from reproductive rights, which did not exist before roe fell. but within days after row, over 8000 doctors came together, all with the same belief that our patients need to be able to get the health care that they need when they need to, and it can't be something that they have to call attorneys and ask for permission. we can't go to judges to get permission, like what just happened and texas, and that was the beginning of really a moment this landslide grassroots effect that has continued to build momentum throughout the last year and a half in ohio, and is now continuing into other states across the country. we had such an incredible volunteer enthusiasm. we had a tremendous amount of participation and collecting signatures that were required to get abortion on the ballot in ohio. we submitted over 710,000 signatures, in order to get our petition on the ballot in a record amount of time, and then we had, like a couple million people come out and vote and say, yes, yes, i want to be able to make those decisions from ourselves. absolutely, the people spoke, and i continue to speak in other states as well. >> dr. lauren beene, i appreciate your time. thank you for the work that you have done. dr. lauren beene is the physician and cofounder of executive director for a high of physicians for reproductive rights. with a go to state representative alexis simpson. thank you for being with us this evening. i don't want to insult my viewers intelligence by stating the obvious, but a 15-day abortion, nobody knows that they are pregnant and 15 weeks. >> exactly, exactly. it was shocking when we saw the statement come through on monday, the language. we talk for a minute, 15 weeks but, no, 15 days. we are still shocked today that this bill was not proposed, but, ali, this is part of the republican strategy for restricting abortion rights. this bill, actually builds on the increasingly extreme abortion bans that republicans have tried to enact since they passed the 24 we've been here in new hampshire two years ago. since roe v. wade fell, since it was overturned, in 22 states, they have banned abortion across the country. here in new hampshire, in both the 2022 and the 2023 sessions, a majority of house republicans backed bills to ban abortions at six weeks. those bills were only defeated because house democrats oppose them. this ridiculous attempt to ban abortions a 15 days is sadly what we have come to expect from new hampshire republicans. >> i am puzzled about the possibility that this could pass. a 2022 saint and some college poll found that 71% of respondents in your state identified as pro choice. as this point, as we saw in ohio and kansas, it's not even whether you use the language of pro-choice or pro-life. there are people who are not abortion activists and may not make that choice for themselves, who are coming out to vote to protect abortion rights, because it's a fundamental right. they think it's right. they don't let new hampshire politicians tell you what you and a doctor need to be discussing. why is this even a possibility? why are we having this discussion tonight? >> that's a great question. so, here in new hampshire, in the legislature, we really are a microcosm of the issues of them that we see nationwide from republicans. which is only really escalated over the past few years. in a state where voters overwhelmingly believe, as you say, that reproductive health decisions should be made solely between patients and medical providers. this legislation really is absurd. it's dangerous, it's extreme, and it's out of touch. most women don't even know that they're pregnant f-15es. this alone goes to show that the people who crafted this legislation have absolutely no clue about the realities of women's health care. as you showed, a vast majority of -- agree with our motto, live free or die. >> this is pretty obvious, right? this fits with the license plate. let me ask you this, do they look at these other states. i know that there is a small republican majority in the legislature. there are three independents and for vacant seats. in theory, it's a close match. did they look at ohio, look at kansas, look at these places and say, this is not going to work, if most of the residents of the state do not support banning abortion, they are going to come at us at some point. they are going to come back, the dog has slammed into the car, and this is not good for republicans to continue this. >> well, ali, that is what i would think, but over the past three years, with the republican control of the new hampshire state government, we have seen numerous attempts to restrict access to reproductive health care, and that has not slowed down. house republicans continue to file legislations to restrict further and prohibit abortion rights for instate hers. they may say that they don't want more restrictions, but here, we had this bill, from responders in both chambers, trying to move the ban to 15 days. even one of their most vulnerable republican members, john sellers, who won by only four votes, in 2022, sponsoring the legislation. >> i guess he seems confident that he'll get the four vote again next time. thank you for being with us, i am sorry for having this conversation. -- there are serious consequences, to these things. i think that the work you are doing to uphold democracy. alexis simpson is the new hampshire state democratic representative. thank you for being with us tonight. >> yes, thank you. >> coming up, some news today -- that for the indicted 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>> i did not know that is where you were going to go. why is he not home above first amendment stuff? i think, obviously, it's a serves his political purposes. they really made the right theme. yes, they talked about that, but when push comes to shove, we're not talking about the first amendment. that was his argument. it's a big first amendment case. they are saying that there is a different government interest here in the integrity of the proceedings. of course, he is going to push the first amendment line to its widest berth possible through the things that he wants to say, but they were pretty clear were the first amendment must stand. it must stand in for other criminal defendants, in screwing up the integrity of the trial itself. as to that in that sphere alley, it is as restrained as any criminal defendant must be. >> but they made a point, no more soon than any other criminal. >> they are very aware -- we all need to know what he can say legitimately. for instance, they said, you can talk about witnesses like bill barr but not witnesses as lock witnesses. you cannot disparage their testimony. you can call mike pence a liar on the campaign trail, if you want to. you can't go over the testimony. that is the right line. you've got to protect the trial. that is what she's doing. i think it's important that the court of appeals has her back. i think it augurs very well for going forward in the cases up to and past the actual trial. >> what happens to the supreme court touch this? 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