united states and afghanistan. today the afghan president hamid karzai met with the relatives of some of the 16 civilians who died in sunday's massacre which u.s. officials blame on one u.s. army staff sergeant. president karzai spoke with president obama. he said he doesn't believe the u.s. version of events. and he says he's running out of patience. >> it is by all means the end of the rope here. the end of the rope. the end of the rope. nobody can afford such luxuries anymore. >> choon >> cnn's sarah simon. did president karzai convey that end of the rope atmosphere to president obama? >> reporter: i'm not sure that he did. but he certainly said that mr. obama was upset with him. he talked in talk together people that were there that he was there to listen. to he told them that he was upset with him because mr. karzai had asked for this transition from having nato forces in control of many parts of the country to having afghan forces take control by 2013 as opposed to 2014. and so you can see that there was some frustration there on both sides if indeed mr. obama was upset with him of over that statement that was made. and it seems that maybe they weren't expecting it. the u.s. perhaps not expecting to hear that from mr. karzai when mr. panetta was here visiting and having talks with him at that time, john. >> sarah, we know u.s. officials hoping to tamp down the outrage over this massacre. has shown afghan surveillance video of the alleged gunman. u.s. officials saying this should prove the actions of just one person. what's president karzai's reaction to that? >> reporter: interesting. we asked him about that directly at the presidential palace today as he was about to leave after he had sat for more than an hour listening to villagers tell their stories of what happened on sunday. and he said "i'm not convinced." he said that his investigative team did see that surveillance video, but there's a lot of skepticism surrounding that video. and a lot of people saying that they're not quite sure if that was actually the night it happened, north quite sure if this is actually the soldier. they're not quite sure if there were other soldiers perhaps involved. all of the villagers talked in sentences like "we do not believe one soldier could do this, could pull off this massacre" that was in several homes and in a couple of different villages. it sounds to me like mr. karzai's reiterating that by saying, well, based on what these villagers are telling me, that it was not one soldier. so interesting comments coming there. certainly going to make some tension, at least the tensions will grow between the u.s. and afghanistan if more statements like that are made by mr. karzai. john? >> tensions, distrust and more. sarah simon for news kabul. the still unidentified u.s. army staff sergeant accused of this massacre is being flown to the detention center at fort leavenworth kansas today. that statement coming from his attorney. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence has been working his sources. chris, so because of the suspect here the staff sergeant arriving at fort leavenworth, where does that take news the process? does that mean we're closer to charges or he has a new place for detention? >> reporter: we've been told him coming to fort leavenworth is separate from actual charges being filed. but we are told that it's likely that he will be in fort leavenworth probably within the next few hours or at least by later on tonight. but again, charges we may not see those until possibly tomorrow. however, there is a good chance we may know exactly who this man is by the time he actually lands and is taken into fort leavenworth. >> interesting. that's one of obviously the big questions we're trying answer who is the suspect. chris as we try to get this information, as we watch the transfer a lot of theories floating around out there what might have led to this tragedy. what are your sources telling you? >> reporter: they're all telling me, don't look for that one size fits all explanation to say that's exactly why he did it. they're looking at his medical history, how he was evaluated before he was sent back to deployment. they're looking at what happened to him while he was in afghanistan. he and his unit, members of his unit. they're looking at his personal life. i was told that when you look at something like this it's easy to point to one cause, assign a motive and move on. he said the source that i talked to said that when you really get down to it what i think you're going to see is a set of factors so to speak. a number of things that may have contributed to what happened that night. >> chris lawrence live for us tonight at the pentagon. chris thanks so much. also tonight a fascinating footnote to the death of osama bin laden. new details of what bin laden was plotting before u.s. forces killed him. among other things he wanted to assassinate president obama. according to the "washington post," newly translated documents seized during the raid on the compound in pakistan quoted al qaeda leader as saying "obama is the head of infidelity. killing him will make biden take over the presidency. biden is totally unprepared for that post which will lead the u.s. into a crisis." the documents also revealed bin laden was worried that al qaeda had tarnished its image by killing so many muslims in the midst of its jihad against the united states. a former rutgers university student was found guilty today of using a webcam to spy on and intimidate his roommate, tyler clementi. dharun ravi did not flinch as the jury read off a string of guilty verdicts. tyler clementi his roommate killed himself after his intimate encounter with a male was streamed on the internet. >> to our college, high school and middle school youngsters i would say. this you're going to meet a lot of people in your lifetime. some of these people you may not like. but just because you don't like them does not mean you have to work against them. >> let's analyze this important case. our cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin is with us. the defendant in this case again, dharun ravi guilty of privacy invasion, bias, intimidation, witness tampering and hindering arrest. up to ten years in prison, possibly deportation. the verdict make sense to you? >> well, it does. but this is a very difficult case. it's very unusual to have a criminal case where the facts are not in dispute. the defense and the prosecution agreed what happened here. the only issue really in this case was what was ravi's intent? what was going on in his head? his defense was, look, this is a knuckle-headed kid basically pulling a prank. whereas the prosecution said no, this was no prank, this was a targeted hate crime. and that's what the jury believed. >> and you say targeted hate crime. part of the issue here is obviously tyler clementi killed himself. i want you to listen to prosecutor trying to explain one of the things they wanted to say he was intimidated by this. let's listen to prosecutor. >> the investigation of this case provided very, very unique challenges. such as we did not have tyler to assist us in the investigation. we did not have tyler to tell us in his own words and in person what happened. >> so how then to get to a state of mind question? did he feel intimidated when obviously he was deceased? >> well, this was a case where there were enormous numbers of e-mails, twitter posts. i mean, there was just a tremendous amount of electronic record of what people thought. and some of it was contradictory. there were times that tyler clementi was sort of laughing off what was going on, and there were times when he was obviously heartbroken. and the fact that he killed himself obviously speaks louder than anything. so i mean, it really was a case reconstructed from the electronic records. and those, you know, those didn't lie. everybody -- you could tell what was happening in real time with all of the people involved in the case. >> it was obviously a highly publicized case. received attention all the way up to the president of the united states. set aside for a minute the high profile of the case. anything unique or interesting about the law of this case? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. i mean, whether this is actually a hate crime is something that i think an appeals court is going to take a very hard look at. i mean, hate crimes are the classic ones dragging a gay guy behind a truck because you hate him. i mean, those are what the law was designed to do. whether showing a real-time video is a hate crime is something that i think some courts may say is simply not a hate crime. i mean, this is a -- if this were just a peeping tom case, that would be a misdemeanor. this becomes a ten-year felony because of what the prosecutors said his state of mind was. and may be right. but i don't know if it's right. and i think it's going to be an interesting, tough call for an appeals court. >> well when you say you don't know, it's interesting tough call, take us through that process. what will the questions be when you get to the appeals court level? >> the question will be, did the new jersey state legislature have this kind of conduct in mind when it passed the hate crimes law. because given the -- this was not a traditional crime of violence. in fact, one of the peculiar aspects of this case is the background to the case was what everybody knows and what is so heart-breaking and awful about this case is that tyler clementi kyled himself. but ravi was not charged with participating or causing the suicide. he was just charged with the hate crime. and so whether that activity of show showing the naked or seminaked pictures that were taken from the webcam in his room amounts to a hate crime is something i think an appeals court may have trouble saying it is. >> senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin, fascinating case. we'll watch as it goes forward. jeffrey thanks so much for your help and insights tonight. breaking news we told you at the top of the program. we're still waiting to go identify the army staff sergeant suspected of committing that massacre last week in afghanistan. a military source now confirms he is staff sergeant robert bales. his name has not been officially released by the military. but barbara starr told it was robert bales. chris, now we have the name of the staff sergeant. obviously it's easier to look at his record and all that. >> reporter: we just confirmed with a second pentagon source it was sergeant robert bales. he did a lot of work with the tribal elders there. actually i've been online just in the last minute or two. saw some photos of him working with some of the afghans with some of the work that he was doing there in the short time of the past few months that he was there. the next step is for him to arrive at fort leavenworth. we're told that will likely happen sometime tonight, maybe within the next few hours or so. once he gets to fort leavenworth, the usual procedure is he will be given a lengthy physical and psychological exam to see where best he should be placed at fort leavenworth. and then you start to get into the legal process. first step obviously down the road would be article 32 hearing in which sort of a -- think of probable cause hearing in a civilian court. from there the ball just keeps rolling. the one caveat to this case, this is getting way ahead of ourselves, but if this is referred as a death penalty case, the one caveat is going to be in that sort of case the prosecution cannot use sworn statements or depositions. they have to actually produce the witness. and the defense has the right to look at his accusers and to cross-examine those witnesses. how that would play with these afghan villagers in a very remote part of afghanistan possibly being brought here to the united states, that's something to keep an eye on down the road, john. >> fascinating question. chris lawrence, thank you for reporting live at the pentagon again. just to recap sources telling chris lawrence and barbara starr identifying the army staff sergeant in that massacre that killed 16 afghan civilians is sergeant robert bales. on his way to the detention center at fort leavenworth tonight. coming up here cnn's fareed zakaria explains what this week's massacre in afghanistan means for the future of u.s. troops on the ground there. plus if mitt romney can't seal the deal are republicans ready for a brokered convention? i'll ask the chairman of the republican national committee. >> we'll be prepared for anything. we've got four great candidates running for president. one of these four candidates will be our nominee. 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>> this relationship has always been very tough. and i share the frustration that a lot of people have. i've always felt that we needed a much smaller mission in afghanistan. it was focused on killing bad guys rather than trying to nation build in afghanistan. but in this particular case, let's be clear. we are at fault in the sense that this was a terrible tragedy done by an individual soldier. but let's hope that president karzai is just kind of exaggerating to get attention. but we should be cooperating. and we should be trying to provide whatever assistance we can. >> and so as part of the paulout here, president karzai says he wants the troops out of the villages and bring them back to their bases. as you know a key element of counter snujsy is to get into those villages, to try to build the trust so when the troops eventually do leave those people have enough trust in themselves and the local security forces that the balance dan does not come back. is president karzai right? is it time for us to pull back? >> the president doesn't want us. the local chiefs don't want us. the villagers don't want us. what are we doing that? building trust but that trust is not being built if they don't want us there. we've been in afghanistan for ten years. they're tired of having these foreign troops in their country. it's understandable and we should be moving to a much lower profile mission that is really devoted to trying to attack and destroy al qaeda and associated terrorist groups. this whole task of trying this unending nation building project in afghanistan is just not going to work. you know, we may stabilize kandahar or places, but trust me five years from now after we've left, those places will look a lot like they've looked. they will revert to their historical destiny. >> very sober assessment. let me change the subject. you have a big special coming up this weekend, gps road map for saving healthcare. in the current presidential campaign the obama healthcare is a subject of huge debate. not fully implemented yet. republicans say it's a disaster. too much bureaucracy. takes away personal choice. demes say it will be a great thing in the end. >> the swiss found they had a system much like ours. private doctors, private insurers, private hospitals. but everyone was having the same problems, which was the healthy wouldn't buy insurance. the insurance companies were trying to throw anyone who was sick off their rolls. you were getting into this downward spiral. so they passed an individual mandate. they basically passed obama care 20 years ago. the results have been very positive. lower costs, better quality. so you end up once you look at it from the point of view of facts rather than ideology, you end up recognizing that to make healthcare work it's very difficult to do it if everyone is not insured, if everyone isn't in the system. because otherwise the healthy people don't want to buy insurance and the insurance companies want to take the sick people off their rolls. so i don't know whether obama care is constitutional. that's above my pay grade. at some level i would say it's inevitable looking at healthcare around the world. >> looking forward to learning about that and more, fareed zakaria, thank you. >> a pleasure. >> and fareed's special "global lessons, the gps road map to saving healthcare" airs sunday night at 8:00 eastern. mitt romney is in -- santorum campaign accusing him of pandering. pedestrians crossing the street while texting or listening to music. a group wants to stop it. does that mean you? 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