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might not. >> it was a long and often tedious day for the jury on wednesday, the defense went on for nearly three hours and the prosecution nearly five hours just attorney terry into star witness, michael cohen, telling jurors he's quote, the human embodiment of reasonable doubt, literally, he lied to you repeatedly. >> he lied many, many many times before you even met him. >> have you guys heard of a goat's like goat, the greatest of all time. >> michael cohen is the gloat. he is literally the greatest liar of all time. prosecution getting the last word telling jurors quote, we didn't choose michael cohen to be our witness. we didn't pick him up at the witness store. the defendant chose michael cohen as is fixer because he was willing to lie and cheat on his behalf the prosecution insisting the evidence against donald trump is quite literally overwhelming but also it was what went on outside the courthouse, the turned heads yesterday and underscored just how tense things are in this election year, and how explosive this verdict could be see this guy get on so much bleeding. it is blowing up my ear drums, her pants here. >> elliot williams former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst, new york times white house correspondents olin kano young's and matt gorman, former senior advisor for tim scans presidential campaign gentlemen, wonderful to have you this morning. eliot, quite a scene outside the courthouse was loud or maybe since the volume might have my earpiece, but it was pretty loud. >> no, it was quite a scene outside the courthouse and it's interesting in that it was the first overt time that the biden campaign or the biden camp, if you want to call it that played fought back politically and i leave it to the political folks just sort of unpack the wisdom thereof. it did bring yet another spectacle of chaos to the street outside in front of the courthouse. but that was there already. i don't know if the injection of robert de niro really changed that all that much yeah. >> i mean, like it was a quintessentially new york for exceed. right. i mean, naturally it's all over the front page of the new york post et cetera. but look, i mean, i think my big picture question here as we head into these jury deliberations on a mat, is whether or not it's can change any votes and our garry tuckman went and talked to some voters in georgia i just want to show you it's speaks for itself. watch if donald trump is found guilty to any of you who say you're ready to vote for donald trump, would you consider switching to joe biden? >> raise your hands? no consideration even if he time guilty. >> other hand, if he's found not guilty. >> and have you voting for joe biden, would you then possibly consider donald trump all right. everyone sticking with the candidates they have right now no changes. >> matt gorman, it's entertaining at least but know that that's kind of where expected things didn't to net out. >> and regarding de niro, i mean, i've said this kinda repeatedly when you shot republican members of congress are politicians go up there. that's where the cameras are. and i think the biden campaign essentially admitted this yesterday. so if you want to break through, you want to reach if muhammad can't go to the mountain, the mountain was come to walk mohammed's there you go. right? >> and one of the other things too politically, this tells me that it was a first scrappy move we've seen from the biden campaign in a while, there was a pretty good piece, i believe in the new york times really saying that the biden a couple weeks ago, the same that the biden campaign is acting like its winning, but it's not this was one of the first acknowledgements that's like, you know, we need to do something different. we need to think through. we can't play all conservative with a small c. we have to be a little bit scrappy. this was one of those times yeah. >> i mean, i still i think when you look at at at a focus group light that it's somewhat why you can still expect the biden campaign to focus on abortion and democracy even more so, regardless of what happens what this trial really, there also even with the de niro appearance yesterday, there is this is still really just a cautious approach when it comes to this trial or really any of the legal proceedings for donald trump when it comes to the biden campaign they are very concerned as well as other democrats about sort of pouring fuel on the fire when it comes to donald trump's claims false claims it's that biden has directed prosecutors to investigate donald trump and they fear that sort of comments about the trial will feed into that. i mean, it's interesting. there was even caution, caution yesterday, width to nero's appearance, he what kind of went off script when at the end of those remarks, he said that yes, he did believe that donald trump should go to jail the biden campaign, i think to your point more so was looking for that sort of new york moment of what, you know, it's interesting, you say this caution about being seen as fueling the fire. and this is a long say it's maybe not just your by democrats generally have to respect this system and the norms of government and courts and their integrity and so well, the fire is got a lot of fuel on it to begin with, whether it's outside the courtroom, inside the courtroom, or how people talk and think about this case. and so it's almost a recognition of the reality that depth there is politics swirling all around this, and they're sort of unit the laterally disarming by not campaigning at the scene of the trial of the crime, i guess. >> and you know what that's the double-edged sword up. the golden era. you're going to have those moments where you get to take your piece out because there's so many bleeps. but, you no disrespect to quentin fulks, who's who's deputy campaign manager. one of the main spokespeople. you're not going to get that type of coverage. who quentin fulks can get with de niro so one thing that we keep, you know, kind of going back to over and over and over again is whether or not any of this is going to move anything. i mean, we saw that with the voters there there was a reference in court yesterday to donald trump being able to shoot people on fifth avenue with the prosecutor saying he shouldn't be able to shoot people on fifth avenue this is a poll. >> just just bear with me, but its dennis quaid, who you may remember from a number of well-known at films. i talking appears morgan about why he supports donald trump. and it's i found it telling watch he makes sense. >> i was running not to vote for trump until i what i saw is more than politics. i see a weaponization of our justice system. >> yeah. and challenged or our constitution. >> but trump is the most investigated person probably in the history of the world and they haven't been able to really get him that people might call them but he's my my gorman deadline right there. >> i've last line. yeah. i mean, i can tell you may have heard some version of that with traveled coaching with tim scott, jeb bush, like this is this i could've heard that in 2015 and not been spreads. i'm still might be on a whole, but he's my yeah, i look, i think one of the things you see is there is a large i would say, not as seen in an amount of people who say, look, i don't necessarily like down trump as a person, not the nicest guy. tweets caught on and on but i will get biden and i don't think he can run the government and i also wanted people to afford groceries before gas and have, you know, buy a home. and i think there's a lot of people like that that was not really that surprising to me that line because everybody who watches cnn this morning with kasie hunt watches it every single good morning. people should know that yesterday, we talked about this very point and this notion of the power of celebrity and divorcing the man from the idea of the man and this was in the context of a trump oprah ticket, right? and what you're hearing a little bit from dennis quaid, there is talking about trump's celebrity hey far more than trump the politician. it's just sort of the idea and the aura around this person. and that seems to almost intoxicate people. >> yeah, i found the tribalism of it noteworthy people forget he had, he had the number one show a tie for how many years? think about the context now, it's like jim parsons running for president like that is a well-known thing that you can't really duplicate before you can get a politics. >> yeah. all right. coming up next year, donald trump's family showing you the court to support him a couple of them, one missing plus lawmakers and taiwan nearly coming to blows will tell you why plus sender chris coons live from taiwan on how to best handle china's aggression cnn this morning is brought to you by vip guard and vip guard high truly i've struggled with generalized myasthenia gravis. >> but the pitcher started changing when i started 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you can see we understand. >> that this is a political persecution. they bring in robert de niro, who was shot down, but apparently he needs attention because it's been a while since he's cranked out a good movie they're sitting there, they're laughing. >> they're giggling. this was their moment. this is how they embarrass donald trump, this is the legal lawfare this was never a case about protecting the citizens of the city of new york. this is a case about politics. pure and simple some members of the trump family coming to the defense of the former president after yesterday's closing, arguments, that was donald trump junior, eric and his wife, lara, they have been seen in the courtroom throughout the criminal hush money trial. >> there was of course, it continued notable absence. the former first lady, there has been no sign of melania's standing by her man in public trump's eldest daughter, ivanka, her husband, jared kushner, who played key roles in the trump white house, have not journeyed to lower manhattan for the trial either it's all on i can't say that this is surprising to me. the millennia, not showing up considering the topic at hand do you think it hurts donald trump in any way? does it matter? >> well, i mean, luck. this is legally, this is to the jury at this point, so i'm not sure if it doesn't really matter. but politically look my colleague katie rogers wrote, wrote about this dynamic. a couple of months ago and wrote a book on first lady ship and what she was saying is that melania has always seen this as donald trump's, this trial as donald trump's issue, not hers. that being said, it it obviously has made her angry at times, going back to january 28, contain when reports of this hush money payment we're we're still being revealed one thing that i think you should watch is will this impact the public support melania trump has for donald trump moving forward as the campaign rolls on we've seen at times when there's been tension or its approval that melania has had signs of showing public disapproval of donald trump going back to something completely different, but even with the border and wearing a shirt that it said showed some disapproval. so you know, that could be something to see could the outcome of this trial impact whether or not melania trump shows up at campaign events answer shows up with donald trump moving forward on the campaign trail and shows public support. >> do you think that impacts what i'm interested in? >> what was notable to me was i think this is more a little bit of a preview of what we would see, who we would see, who wouldn't see as active in a trump white house. >> yeah, i know you saw those three folks there layer trump's kinda coat reading the rnc, don junior and erik, i always kind of been out there volga and jared have kinda kept their distance from the campaign and there's tens, we could be the white house two, i also think maybe melania two if who's to go back and watch should be first lady again, maybe it wouldn't be as active as a role as it was the first time around. >> yeah. yeah. i just feel like we get hung up a lot on guilty versus not guilty. what happens if he is convicted? and as it and that's perfectly fine. forgetting that this is a married couple. and whether he's convicted or not there is still this cloud of diddy sleep with a porn star. did he pay what he did pay off a porn star? the question is, did the relationship happened and so on. and i would think setting aside whether he's convicted or not, i would think a spouse would probably not take issue with some of the behavior that's right into question. well, she'll start appearing with them on the campaign trail if he is acquitted, just sort of the underlying problem is still there. anyway. is yes, although it doesn't seem as though voters released seemed to know you don't want an election since 2016 he may be on track to win the next one we will see coming up more of this trump returns to the white house. 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