-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning, everyone. it's friday, october 21st. ali's off today. welcome to "american morning." >> it's been a long week. a big week of news. it's been a very long week. >> i must say, i had a great time in vegas. >> i know. vegas seems like a year ago. doesn't it? all of the gadhafi news yesterday. you can back from the big debate and the gadhafi news. moammar gadhafi killed in his hometown, captured alive. almost 24 hours after reports he was mortally wounded there is still a fog surrounding exactly how it happened. >> right. and new videos popping up all over the web showing his final moments. we want to warn you. these videos obviously are graphic. this one showing a badly wounded extremely bloody confused gadhafi being man handled but is clearly alive here. the statement says he was killed in a crossfire. later pictured show his dead body with a bullet wound to his head add close range suggesting he was executed. >> news of his death spark wild celebrations in the streets of libya. guns blasting. president obama telling the libyan people, you have won your revolution. >> so our coverage begins with chris lawrence live from the pentagon. chris, what do we know about how gadhafi died? >> reporter: the exact way in which he died is still under debate. there is con flicting story, out there, but we are getting a clear picture what led up to those final moments, and it looks to be as chaotic as gadhafi lived his entire life. take you back. what was happening was, nato had aerial surveillance, had eyes on a particular area of sirte, where there was some conflict there. in fact, gadhafi's forces, we're now told, had been sort of boxed into a particular area. there was some fighting there. a convoy left out of that area, and a combination of french fighter jets and a u.s. predator drone hit that convoy. they're not sure where gadhafi was in relation to the convoy but they know fighting broke out after that convoy was hit. gadhafi and some of his men then took refuge, libyan officials say, in a drainage pipe where he was found. at some point during that exchange, there was a long shoot-out between some of gadhafi's loyalists and some of the rebel, and then gadhafi was captured. a senior nato official told me that gadhafi was stl alive after the convoy was struck, and after, you know, they fled on foot, but he's not sure exactly what happened in the circumstances in which gadhafi died. >> what's interesting here, you know, saif, one of gadhafi's sons, is supposedly out there and still alive. one of the analysts here in the united states, i should say, wants saif to be captured and tried. but it's unclear that will happen in light of what happened to moammar gadhafi. >> reporter: exactly. look at all of the conflicting stories. i mean, i think there's been already two instances in which saif was reported dead. earlier we saw huge celebrations, when his death was supported and then he pops out on video live a few hours later. it seems to be a very chaotic situation in libya. we may have to wait to see how it's played out. >> a lot of talk about libya's weapons. we know there are shoulder-fired missiles, an awful lot of handguns and oughtmatic weapons. what happens to securing those weapons? >> reporter: what's happening right now is the state department sent a small team to libya and they have been sort of embedded with the ntc securing some of the chemical weapons sto stock. ied. the stockpiled. old weapons, against a conventional army probably not going to do all that much damage, but they're extremely small and concealable. four feet long, only weigh about 30 pounds. there's a real danger they could try to use them to go after civilian airplanes or a helicopter. the obama administration says that terrorists have already expressed interest in obtaining them. state department is looking for about another $35 million from congress to beef up that team over there to try to get a handle on where those are and to work with the ntc to secure them. >> chris lawrence, thanks so much. >> reporter: you're welcome. the celebrations, of course, continue this morning in libya. the new government says it will officially declare the war over tomorrow, and people who have known nothing but gadhafi they are entire lives are breathing a sigh of relief. >> we are very free and i fae that birthday is today. we're have a good time. i feel 6 years old. really, libya is free without him. >> the greatest moment in all my life. >> reporter: president obama says the death of moammar gadhafi should serve as a warning to other middle east leaders who rule with an iron fist. this time will inevitably come to an end. the president taking a little credit calling gadhafis demise, offering up this message to the citizens of libya. >> the dark shadow of tyranny has been lifted, and we this enormous promise, the libyan people now have a great responsibility, to build and inclusive and tolerant and democratic libya that stands as the ultimate rebuke to gadhafi's dictatorship. >> some republicans are giving credit to the president for the death of the libyan dictator. reluctant, a bit muted, but it is praise. listen to senator john mccain on cnn's "the situation room" after gadha gadhafi's death had been confirmed. >> the obama administration from your perspective deserves a lot of credit for this as well? >> i think they deserve credit. the fact is if we declared a no-fly zone early on, we would have never had -- gadhafi would have fallen at the beginning. the second thing is that, if we had used our capabilities, the a-10 and ac-130 this would have been over a long time, but i think the administration deserves credit but i especially appreciate the leading of the british and french in carrying out this success. >> what he would have done differently and what the role in libya should be moving forward, when senator mccain joins us live in the 8:00 eastern hour of "american morning." and a promise kept, his brother was one of 270 killed when pam am flight 103 exploded over lockerbie, scotland nearly 23 years ago. widely believed gadhafi ordered that bombing. fighting to bring the libyan leader to justice and made a silent promise to his brother he'd keep fighting until gadhafi was gone. >> i was thrilled, and i didn't expect to have that reaction. i'd been dreaming about this more than 20 years, but it was always with the sense that you don't want to be the vengeful one, i want my brother's murderer killed, but in a way you do. >> he went on to thank the libyan people and obama administration for their courage and commitment to taking out gadhafi. just ahead, coverage on moammar gadhafi's death continues and taking you live to tripoli to speak to a member of the national ruling transitional council. we'll ask him what's next for the nation. plus, libya's loaded with money and oil. most frozen during the revolution. what happens now to the billions in gold, oil, cold, hard cash? 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or was it something different? >> no, no. i am convinced that when we, when our martyrs captured him and [ inaudible ] as he was describing the libyan, the brave libyan, they took him. they were taking him to a hospital. he was shot on his feet, and they were driving him from sirte, misurata. they were in an area where there was lots of cross fire. our people firing to the others and vice versa. and just shot him in the side of his head and he was dead. so i cannot tell you whether it was from far or near, but it was unintentional. no one decided to kill him or slaughter him as they were saying. it would have been much better for us libyans and the whole universe to capture him and take him to a court and see how a dictator, a bad guy who did lots of libyan and non-libyan, be judged in front of court. >> one of gadhafi's sons, we're not clear, saif gadhafi. is he dead or alive? >> he is still alive. that man wasn't viewed by our people, and he is still alive. he will be taken to a court, of course. >> so he's been captured and -- >> you're talking about captured yesterday? interviewed by one of the -- >> no. saif. >> saif? yeah. saif, it's not confirmed yet whether he was captured or -- but we're sure, we know the area where he is, and for sure he'll be captured very soon, and it will be declared when he is captured. >> are you worried, you know, that he is still free, because he was the de facto leader. you know, he led libya in place of his father. do you fear there will be more violence because she stillhe is alive and still out there? >> well, you see these guys because they've got lots of money and corrupted lots of people around us, they will do bad things. they will hire professional killers and they will cause lots of problems. so we want to get rid of all this, and we want to start developing our country. we have lots of work to do. we have, you know -- everything is destroyed by this dictator. nothing is here. we have to start from scratch. so we need time. time is very important to us, and we will not be able to get on our feet and start working until we get rid of this dilemma. i mean, these guys hanging around, hiding, hiring professional killers from africa, from serbia -- >> we're just getting something crossing from reuters and i want you to confirm or deny or tell me what you think. reuters is confirms that saif is fleeing south towards libya's border with niger, according to national military officials. your thoughts? >> no, no. i don't think he'd leave libya. he's still around the southern mountain, around this area, and our soldiers are following him, and they're surrounding him. >> okay. i just want to move on to ask you quickly about the weaponry and who will safeguard it, because we know there are a lot of, like, shoulder-fired missiles, for example. the united states and other countries are worried that adequate security won't be provided to keep those weapons in the right hands. >> you see, we have a plan to -- all these young fighters, actually, when you look at it, most of them came from universities, from schools, and others are professionals, like doctors and lawyers. they will have to go back to their job. now libya is liberated. now gadhafi is not here anymore. so most of them will go back to their previous profession, whether student or a doctor or other things. those who are not willing to go -- to keep on the -- they will be taken into the army or security forces. so nothing is worrying is, because we know our guys are very disciplined. our motives are very disciplined. willing to see their country civilized, state of justice and they will follow the procedure that the ntc will plan for them, and it will be followed precisely. >> i think, though, sir, the fact is that the transitional council doesn't have control of all the militias in the country. i mean, this has not been the most orderly rebellion, and that's why some lawmakers here in the united states are concerned about those 20,000 shoulder-fired missiles. they're concerned they could fall into the wrong hands and be used by terrorists, because, you know, the country, your country, is so in flux right now? >> well, you see, i want to assure you that all our militias are disciplined, and they obey the orders of the ntc exactly. but concerning the leak of guns in the southern area or places where there are other islamic groups or anything, well, a minor thing would be [ inaudible ] we are in control. nothing worries us, and you will see how easy and fast all those young fighters will go back to civilian life. >> mohammed sayah, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. all right. also new this morning, frank discussions are under way in islamabad where secretary of state hillary clinton is meeting with pakistani officials at a news conference. earlier clinton stressed a strong pakistan is critical to stability in the middle east and pressure ared pakistan to step up efforts to target terrorists along the afghanistan border. and president obama accusing republicans of obstructing a way in would get the economy going again. criticism coming after the senate didn't take up a portion of president obama's jobs bill that would have provided more money for teachers and first responders. funding for this slimmed down jobs bill would have been paid for by a 0 pa.5% tax increase, some republicans oppose. the placers association president derek fisher accused the league of lying after three days at the table. the nba has already cancelled the first two weeks of the regular season. >> oh, let's talk about something good. the world series. the texas rangers pulling even in dramatic fashion in last night's series game. rallied two runs but waited until the ninth inning to do it. the series tied at one game apiece, heads back to texas. game three tomorrow night. coming up, common mistakes has could cost you a little money. talking thousands of dollars. we're "minding your business" right after the break. it's 22 minutes after the hour. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? 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[ male announcer ] helping people achieve without limits. at the hartford it's what we do... and why we're the founding partner hartford. foshan. . it is 30 minutes paf the hour. welcome back to "american morning." top stories now, libya still cheering the death of former dictator moammar gadhafi. he was killed in the cross fire as they finally took his hometown of sirte. >> showing gruesome final moments. they say they found him hiding in the sewer. the place of the rat gadhafi, painted around the hole after the cap color. nato says it involved a president ter drone. time to start a new libya. the new libyan transitional government saying liberation will be officially announced tomorrow, the end of an uprising that began back in february over gadhafi's 42-year reign possibly over. and exploding into other areas saying, you're next. the presidents of syria and yemen. live in abu dhabi. good morning, mohammed. so how does the fall of gadhafi impact other uprisings in the arab world? >> reporter: good morning, carol. that's