heard a big bang and went to door and my uncle was there, and his name is pat cavanaugh. we both came out and looked up and saw the smoke behind the building. he cut back through the house and he was talking and my uncle was there with him. we saw the pilot and he was laying there. my uncle was right there with him. so i didn't really worry about him too much because my uncle is an emt. retired. i went throughout the building complex, yelling and telling everybody to get out. we've got to get away. thank god, not a lot of people were home. it was crazy. very crazy. >> and i had heard that the pilot may have said to some witnesses on the scene or at least residents on the scene he was sorry he crashed into their home. is that true, did you see anything like that? >> yes, ma'am, i did hear that. he said that to my uncle as i was walking away. but yes, i did hear that. >> i want you to stand by, mr. edwards, matthew edwards, joining us an eyewitness to the scene. barbara starr is standing by. what's the latest at the pentagon on what happened and how this happened? >> well, an incredible scene that we watched unfold during the day happened when the training flight took off from the oceana naval air station. by all accounts it ran into trouble very quickly because it crashed into the apartment building about two miles from the runway. so the working assumption is it did not achieve significant altitude before the pilots realized they were in trouble. leading them -- forces them into an ejection potentially at very low altitude. pilots as we have talked about, very well trained to try and steer their plane away from populated areas. but these two may not have had any choice. we have the witnesses reporting flames under the plane. we have reports that fuel was coming out of the plane and the initial indications from the navy are that was not fuel dumping, but rather part of what this catastrophic malfunction may have been in the plane that led -- that led to the fuel basically flowing out of the plane. so what the navy is saying is that this was a catastrophic mechanical malfunction of some sort. they're looking for the data recorder. they're looking to pick up all the debris from there so they can analyze what happened. >> i want to go back to what you said a moment ago, about the fuel being released from the plane before hand. this is something they're assessing that the fuel is being dumped so the impact wasn't as critical or this could have been the beginning of the breakup of a plane? >> yeah. you know, by all indications right now, they don't seem to think -- and these are very initial reports, they don't seem to think it was necessarily what you and i would call a pilot dumping fuel for safety reasons. but more or less part of the malfunction. i think it's very early on and they're going to be investigating all of this, trying to determine what happened. but, you know, the fact is -- the fact that it crashed less than two miles from the runway is the clearest indication that they ran into trouble very quickly and they were not able to achieve significant altitude. >> and then one of the accounts that the pilot was able to verbalize to one of the residents, i'm sorry i hit your house. you know how early reports come out, but if that's something that they're discussing that's something that indicates his or her condition is good tonight. >> yeah, there were several viewers that said the pilot apologized for hitting the apartment building. it may change through the night still, both of the pilots are okay. one already released. one still being treated. but still, let's be very clear here. emergency services are continuing to search through the wreckage, search through the buildings. there are mixed reports, mixed numbers about whether or not there may still be people on the ground missing. because there are residents of these apartment buildings that clearly may have been away from their homes. they're walking through it all. they're trying to track down apartment by apartment who lived there, how many people lived there. their identities. and try and make sure they know where they are and that they are safe. everyone is very hopeful, but i will tell you that until there's the final count, people are just holding their breath to see what the final situation is on the number of people on the ground, ashley. >> don't go anywhere. i have another question for you, but i want to jump in with someone who does live there, matthew edwards who's an eyewitness. can you still hear me? >> yes, ma'am, i can. >> i want to ask you about those who are unaccounted at this time. emergency services continue to comb through the area, going through the burning embers, going through every spot they can through the residences. do you know who's still left to be found? >> i actually -- i have sort of an idea. you were speaking with our general manager, earl and we were doing a count of all the neighbors. all of my neighbors and the neighbors closest to the crash are pretty much accounted for. there is one older lady that i didn't quite hear about. but i'm pretty sure she's okay, because she was not home at the time. but i believe everybody got out. i think the only people that are really -- the only things that are really hurt are animals and buildings. >> and mr. edwards, also we were looking at some pictures a moment ago of what seemed like civilians and residents running in to help, to pull, you know, water hoses for firefighters. can you tell me a little bit about the effort to join in and to sort of help in this crisis by bystanders? >> absolutely. i personally put my hand on a hose and a firefighter asked me to help out and i personally, you know, carried things over to the scene. i mean, it was amazing to see all the people standing -- and the fire department said one thing and 30 people must have stepped off to help. >> our thoughts are with you and your neighbors as you continue to try to find those i believe six now who may be unaccounted for. certainly better than the 30 who are unaccounted for before. but matthew edwards, thank you for your time tonight and for your perspective on this. >> thank you. and thank you to those pilots. they really did their job. >> sounds like it. certainly, as the investigation continues we'll find out more about how that happened. barbara starr, thank you as well. you'll continue to update us as you find new information as well i hope tonight, right? >> you bet. >> all right. barbara starr joining us live from the pentagon. thanks to both of you. up next james carville on today's tepid job numbers and the fallout that could cause for president obama as he heads into full campaign mode for the fall. raw politics tonight and raw politics tonight and jobs, hiring slowed dramatically in march with employers taking on just 120,000 workers. that's half the job gains compared to the month before. the unemployment rate fell slightly though, 8.2%. all year president obama has been pointing to the monthly figures, suggesting strong growth in the job growth. >> we just learned our economy added 220,000 private sector jobs. after losing more than 8 million jobs in the recession, we have added more than 3 million private sector jobs over the past 22 months. our businesses just added 223,000 jobs last month. for a total of nearly 4 million new jobs over the last two years. more companies are choosing to bring jobs back and invest in america. we have seen signs that our economy is growing stronger and creating jobs at a faster clip. the economy is getting stronger. the economy is growing stronger. we're heading in the right direction. and we're not going to let up. >> well, the republicans are pointing to the monthly jobs report and using today's numbers to slam the president. gop candidate mitt romney saying quote, it is increasingly clear the obama economy is not working and that after three years in the office the president's excuses have quote run out. let's bring in cnn political contributor james carville to answer some tough questions about this, why, mr. carville, is mitt romney wrong when he says that? >> well, look, first of all, to be fair to the president when he took office, they were losing three quarters of the million jobs a month. but, look, i'm not a big believer that this economy is very good. i think when the president goes out and says things it's getting better out there, i don't think people like to hear that. so i don't think these numbers are very good, i didn't think the numbers month were very good either. i think the president needs to talk more about the midled class, talk about how he's not satisfied with the pace and why he has a jobs bill that's sitting there and languishing in congress and things like that. i didn't think 120,000 was a good number or 220,000 was a good number. >> gee, you're the guy who calls himself on the airwaves as a professional democrat. if you can't butt a positive spin on it, how on earth can the campaign can put a positive spin on it? >> i don't know that the campaign can put a positive spin on it. >> really? >> no. when -- look, when the president on the campaign says things are getting better, you have a large number of people in the country that say, no, they're not. if he thinks they are, he doesn't get my life. and by the way, he can easily say, all romney wants to do is double down on the mess that got us here. his program is utterly absurd. i think he can come across that he's unsatisfied that he's proposing things and the republicans are blocking him. that's a much better message than things are getting better. that's not going to work out there. >> if he can harness that message, there was a strident op-ed in "the washington post" saying that the battle will be about the economy. that the republicans are going to say it has not been this bad of a recovery since the great depression. now are they wrong and how does president obama take that message and somehow make it better? it's good, but not good enough. >> it's simple. there's never been a worse recession since the great depression than the one that their policies caused. so why would we would go back to the very policies that caused us this? and the president would be well to argue that he's working day and no it to try to do this, but yes, he is unsatisfied with the pace of this recovery. and it's going to take a long time before people's incomes get back up. the middle class has been hit by a truck. and, you know, that needs to be acknowledged. >> hey, james, when you started this interview with me, i'm going to quote you. when he took office we were losing three quarters of a million jobs a month. >> a month. >> i hear you. gene sperling said this today. he said the economic hole the president inherited is very deep. we're making progress, but nowhere close to satisfied. at what point though do you say this is 2012 -- you get these questions all the time. when do you have to take account for it and say, all right, my job, i can't continue to blame the administration before me. >> well, i don't know -- i don't know that he's blaming the administration by pointing that out. >> i'm going to repeat it, james. he said the president inherited a very -- the hole that the president inherited very deep. that's the hole he's talking about from the bush administration. that's not from day one. >> well, what gino said is very accurate. the other thing that can be pointed out, however bad -- however difficult this economy is, this president created more jobs in three years than president bush in eight. one of things that caused the job numbers to be horrific is we lost 600,000 public sector jobs since this recovery started. my point is we should agree this number is not good enough. that it's a tepid number and it's going to be a while before the middle class can feel this recovery. i think that's what people want to hear. >> you think we'll dip below 8% in the jobless rate before the election? >> i don't know. you know, fewer people that look and people that do that. i have no idea. but, you know, hopefully. >> do you think we have to? if president obama wants to keep his job, do you think we have to dip below 8% unemployment before election day? >> i look in july to create the jobs and then president bush got elected. romney is the most popular -- most unpopular challenger in the history of modern polling. there's somebody to run against president obama. the number -- this recession has been very, very difficult on a lot of families, particularly middle class families this this country. i think that has to be acknowledged and not to acknowledge that tells people you're not in touch with what's going on out in the country. >> james carville, thanks very much. by the way, i'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear what your wife has to say about this. any night. >> take a fly swatter, take a swat at you. we have breaking news to bring you in the trayvon martin case. it's a 360 exclusive interview with an eyewitness to the tragedy. i want to let you know what she has to say about her encounter with the police that night. might surprise you. and also coming up next, george zimmerman's legal team and mark geragos and sunny hostin are going to weigh in. coming up. more breaking news tonight. only on 360. a key witness to the killing of trayvon martin who says police turned down what might have been important information about this case. she also talked about whose voice she heard that night crying for help, martin's or zimmerman's? and more new data in case that's already seemed packed with too much information and too few hard facts. nearly six weeks since george zimmerman and trayvon martin scuffled, we still really don't know what happened in the minute or so before it began. did marketen stalk and sucker punch zimmerman or did zimmerman confront martin? again, no hard facts. was zimmerman being beaten within an inch of permanent brain damage as his brother said, or was it light enough to walk around the police station unharmed? we have grayny medical tape. and no forensic proof yet, as to who was on top when the deadly shot was fired between those two who were scuffling. no clear answers which leaves the case open to interpretation, speculation, accusations. but again, no resolution, which is why 360 and anderson have been doing their level best trying to stick to the facts and trying to expand what we do know. we'll start off with one of the eyewitnesses, an actual eyewitness. we have confirmed through the reporters and producers on the ground that this witness does live in the complex and that she has spoken with police. she broke her silence on this program last week and she hasn't spoken with anyone else. so we're bringing her back because tonight, she's got a lot more to say. we spoke exclusively early this evening and we're showing her in shadow to conceal her identity. when you heard those voices that night, can you characterize what kind of scream you heard? >> well, there was two as i say yelled for help and the first up with was like a very clear, loud yell for help. it really is the second up with that really always will stay with me. it was kind of almost like a yelp. it was like a devastating, dispirit type of yell for help. even to a sense it could have been a cry. >> did it sound like you could determine it was someone who was in his late 20s or someone in his late teens? >> well, from the very beginning and i still do feel that it was the young boy. >> and when you say young boy, do you mean a 17-year-old? >> yes. kind of not knowing either person, i kind think there was the boy and this was the man. well, the person was 17. >> knowing now what you know, go back to that night. at the time you didn't know how would anybody was in that struggle. >> correct. >> when you heard the yell, did you make a determination? >> i definitely could tell that it was a younger, youthful voice than it was the deep voice that i heard when they were argue, and i heard them outside my window. >> tell me more about the argument. >> well, i didn't hear the words, but when i opened my window i could definitely hear someone arguing, someone yelling. it wasn't like someone was out there having a conversation. >> were they both yelling? >> i could still hear the younger -- again, the younger person's voice, but really the other voice was the one that was more dominant and loud. >> the deeper voice was louder? >> yes. >> what was the younger voice saying and what kind of a context can you give me with regard to that part of the argument? >> you could still hear the other person's voice, but just not as much as the person that was being the louder aggressor. >> could you make out anything that was being said between them? >> no, i could not. i knew it was somebody not having a conversation, it was something serious. >> it sounded like a confrontation? >> yes. >> did it sound like one was being confronted or both being confrontational? >> i would say both, but you hear that one louder, dominant voice more than the other one. >> the older person's voice or the deeper voice? >> yes. >> did you ever hear any racial slurs in the confrontation? >> no, because i did not hear any words. just arguing. >> did the argument sound serious enough that you thought someone is going to get hurt here? >> um, i knew there was something definitely wrong. of course, then, when i saw it next it was two men on the ground. so at that point i knew there was something wrong and i needed to call. >> when you called 911, what did you tell them? >> i told them that there was two men on the ground, something really horrible is happening. >> did you talk to the dispatcher at the time that the gunshot went off? >> yes, i did. >> and what did the dispatcher ask you and what did you tell the dispatcher? >> well, i kind of was watching and talking at the same time. and not really ever hearing what a gun sounds like in person, for me, it was more of a popping noise. so i think in my mind i'm thinking okay, that probably is a gunshot, but you're just in such disbelief that this is happening right outside your window. >> did you tell the dispatcher i think i heard a gun shot? >> yes. >> and what did the dispatcher ask? >> um, i think i just said to him, i hear popping noises and i think it's a gunshot. >> did the dispatcher ask for descriptions of what was going on as you were talking? >> i think it was more that i was describing because it was like i'm watching a movie and i'm telling you on the phone, you know, exactly what i'm hearing. in fact, i even thought to myself, why am i telling him on the phone what's going on? let me just take the phone and put it right up to the screen possibly he can even hear it. >> is that what you did? >> yes, i did. >> you held your phone to the screen so the dispatcher could hear everything? >> yes, i did. but i'm not sure at what point i put it up, but i did tell him, i'm putting it up to the screen, maybe you can hear it. >> where were you looking at the point the gun fired? >> i was looking at the two men on the ground. >> could you tell who was on the top, who was on the bottom? >> i know it was very dark, but i thought it was the larger person on top. >> when the gun fire went off, what happened to the larger man who you think might have been on the top? what happened at that moment? >> well, i will say a couple seconds later that larger man was walking closer to where i could see him. >> before those couple of seconds at the moment the gunshot went off, what happened with the larger man? >> well, obviously the other man -- the boy was dead and the other person got up and was walking away from the body. >> when you first saw him coming towards you, could you see any blood on his face? was it light enough for you to be able to see any blood on his face if there was any there? >> it was n