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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront March 2, 2012



good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a shady red line. a red line the whole world is watching. the red line is the line that the obama administration and members of congress say iran cannot cross. listen to this. >> always keep all of our capabilities ready in the event that those red lines are crossed. >> that signaled an intention by iran to cross what we call the red line. >> the fact that they are active here has crossed a red line. >> the problem is, when someone tells you there's a red line you can't cross, or else? two things matter -- where exactly is the line. and what exactly will happen to you if you cross it. defense secretary panetta has stated the obvious -- getting a nuclear weapon crosses the line. and today an obama administration official who would only discuss this sensitive issue anonymously got a little more specific, telling cnn's security blog that iran moved "toward" 90% uranium enrichment, the level required for a weapon, is "potentially" a red line that could trigger american action. but how far "toward"? right now iran is enriching uranium to 20%. now 20% is required to operate nuclear power plants, and iran insists that its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes. nuclear engineer marco caltifan tells cnn that getting to 90% weapons grade uranium enrichment would be much quicker and easier from 20 than getting from 0 to 20 in the first place. but he actually says that iran could do it -- get from 20 from where they are and peaceful purposes it would be 90 and a nuclear weapon months from now and notes anything above 20 isn't really useful for anything but towards building a nuclear weapon. is "toward" 90% enriched uranium anything above what the iranians currently have now? and how would the united states even know what iran is doing since they haven't allowed weapons inspectors in to key facilities? the red line needs to be defined more clearly. oil prices have surged on the uncertainty impacting all americans. and iranians continue to be slammed by crippling u.s. and european sanctions, which would end if the country's leaders prove they're not building a weapon. or have any intent to do so. this is why the eyes of the world will be on a high-stakes, high-pressure meeting on monday between israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and president barack obama in washington. at this hour, netanyahu is on a plane en route to north america ready to make demands. two israeli newspapers are reporting that israel will ask the u.s. to define the red line clearly and deliver an explicit military threat to iran if it crosses the line. the papers say netanyahu wants those answers to be issued in a statement after he meets with president obama. well, how will the united states respond to its important ally, israel? i asked senator robert menendez of the foreign relations committee in just a moment. but first, cnn has gained rare access into tehran. just the day before its first national election since the disputed 2009 presidential election. our ivan watson is there tonight and just before the show i spoke to him and i asked him whether the iranian government's anti-u.s. ret tick and message has been rubbing off on the people he's been speaking to there. >> reporter: well, you know, everybody that i've talked to around iran and every time i've been here is always incredibly friendly. even people who really view the u.s. as a mortal threat to iran tend to be very kind and friendly. here's an example. just tuesday night i was detain here with our camera crew while filming some campaign posters and the guy who detained us, a militia officer, accused me of hurting his government. i bumped into this guy in the bazaar today, surprised him, and he's a shop keeper there. that's his day job. he sells buttons and zippers. and he kissed me on both cheeks and gave me his phone number. that shows some of the contradictions here. there are more restrictions, however, for american journalists and some suspicion here. we weren't allowed to bring satellite telephones in, which we've been able to do in the past to make our broadcasts. and we have come under some pressure on that front for moving around. another example -- tomorrow the friday vote is going to be the first election i've ever covered anywhere in the world where i'm being bussed to the polling station along with other invited journalists. we're not being exactly allowed to move around freely on election day. >> that's a very interesting anecdote. last, but not least, ivan, sanctioned. the government obviously keen to say they're not hurting us or affecting us. but what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: well, there's no question that the country's going through a period of economic hardship. the value of the iranian currency has plummeted over the last four months. nearly 50%, according to some estimates, against the dollar. inflation has grown. iranians are saying that their money goes half as far when it comes to importing foreign goods or if they want to travel outside of the country. it's not clear whether that is a direct consequence of the tougher u.s. and european sanctions against iran. that i have not been able to fathom at this time. but there is no question there is more economic hardship right now. what is remarkable, erin, is to be able to walk around tehran, a country that has seen its currency lose so much of its value in such a short period of time, and not to see chaos or problems in the streets, that is pretty much life as usual, although people are feeling economic pressure right now. >> ivan watson thank you very much, reporting from tehran tonight. a very rare opportunity for a journalist and he was able to get in to iran ahead of the elections. thanks. and now joining me, senator robert menendez, democrat on the foreign relations committee. senator, thanks very much for taking the time. so prime minister netanyahu is on a plane on his way to the united states, attending a crucial conference, he's going to meet with president obama. there are reports that president obama is considering in his speech at the big apec summit to outline the "red lines" that iran cannot cross. do you think he will do so in a very specific bullet-pointed sort of way? >> i don't think it will be bullet pointed. i think what we share in common with our partner, the state of israel, is that we seek to prevent iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, not simply to contain it. i think that the only difference between us and the israelis is the question of timing. >> so let me ask you this question. this is where i get confused. leon panetta said you develop a weapon, that's a red line. but with government sources telling cnn well going toward 09% enrichment, the level required for a weapon, that's crossing the red line but anything above 20 is sort of going in that direction. so how do you define it? how would you define it? >> well, clearly going to beyond the 20% headed to 90% is the march towards nuclear weapons. but that uranium that needs to be enriched is under the international atomic energy agency's supervision so we would have a pretty good sense between our intelligence and the intelligence of our allies that the iranians are headed in that direction. and that would evoke the opportunity for us to act. difference is u.s. military capacity is far beyond those of some of our allies so our time frame is more open. >> so we could wait longer. the united states, to be sure. which of course, anybody would want to do, especially what happened with iraq. >> we want these sanctions to actually continue to bite. you saw the report of your colleague and clearly, there's no other reason for iranian currency to be so devalue waiat except for these biting sanctions. >> weapons inspectors from the iaea were not given access to all the facilities they wanted when they left last week. there was another four now they focused in on. i pulled some figures that they had pulled. this is, as you can see, the building right now. this is how it looks. now just look at it a couple years ago and we'll show you how it looked. what you see there is buildings have been put, anything that was happening is now happening underground. i simply use these pictures to ask you the question of, are you confident that we have the intelligence to know what they're doing, when they're doing it and when they cross the line, if they're going to cross the line? >> well, we've got the greatest intelligence that we have had on our own capabilities, as well as what we are sharing. the greatest cooperation that has existed between the state of israel and the united states in both military and intelligence sharing is taking place right now. we have as good as intelligence as any we'll ever have. >> recently they referred to classified intelligence reports that are at least a year old. you're saying -- >> we're getting the best intelligence that we've ever had and the sharing of that intelligence with our ally, the state of israel, is at the best that it's ever been. >> okay. so i'm going to put all this together and tell me if i'm right. best intelligence you've ever had -- which not everyone has said. i think that's important, first of all. but it is telling you that it is okay right now. >> as we speak, erin, right now we're okay. >> right. >> now of course, iranian action can ultimately accelerate that moment. but as of we speak right now and as the iranians are suffering from the beginning -- by the way, these are just the beginning of crippling sanctions. yesterday was the first day in that actually we had sanctionable items for non-oil transactions. at the end of this month the president is going to have to certify that in fact there is enough oil in the marketplace for us to go through with the rest of the sanctions. that takes place at the end of june. so in the next several months this is just going to constantly ratchet up to a point that the iranian regime has to think do we want to put our entire people through this, and potentially lose control here. >> rudy giuliani said last week on this show that the president needed to talk explicitly about the threat of bombing iran, using the word bomb, and if he did so then he would never actually to do it. mike rogers on the house intelligence committee said this to john king just a couple days ago. >> i think this would be better done with rolled up sanctions, really tighten them up fast, don't wait until july, crank everything down, continue to put pressure on them, and have a real option of military consequence for iran. they don't believe it -- iran, i mean -- and neither does israel. we've got to change that equation if we're going to have an impact on iran backing down from their nuclear weapon program. >> once you know where the red line is, what are the consequences. has the united states and the obama administration been clear enough about the consequences, does iran believe them that military action will happen? >> erin, the positioning of military assets in the gulf, assets that did not exist to the extent they exist today which gives the president all options to pursue is enough of a message to the iranians that we are serious about stopping their march to nuclear weapons. >> senator, thank you very much. we appreciate it. obviously going to be a crucial meeting this weekend. ahead on "outfront," a city devastated by the tornado as you saw last night. we'll go to harrisburg, illinois and talk to a grandmother who literally was picked up and thrown from her home during the storm where winds exceeded 175 miles an hour. then, how much should someone be held responsible when someone commits suicide as a result of something they did or said? this is at the center of the trial going on right now involving the death of rutgers student tyler clemente. two more soldiers killed in afghanistan in response to the burning of those korans at bagram air force base. what will stop the violence? the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ then lead a double life! with new blast flipstick from covergirl. creamy color on one end, shimmery color on the other. so you can flip your look from demure, to daring. new blast flipstick from covergirl. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. 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"outfront" tonight as they try to pick up the pieces. janice, i'm so glad to see you there with your dog because i know the dog was missing for a while. >> oh, yes. yes, she was. they searched for her for probably eight or nine hours and finally found her in the house. a chair had tipped over and she was under the chair. and she, of course -- i don't know if she has a broken leg or if it's sprained or whatever but she has her little cast on. she's getting along really well. i was so worried because she's 11 years old. >> what a miracle that she was protected by the chair. your story is a miracle, too. i know, janice, obviously you're still -- you're still in shock. i mean you have to be in a lot of pain. do you remember how it happened? >> well, all i remember -- it was so quick, but i heard the tornado sirens and then i heard the sounded like a train, or like you're in a wind tunnel. i ran to the pantry, slammed the door and i mean i could not hold the door closed. it just took the door away from me. i think that's what hit my face and my hand and all that. and then i just started flying through the air. it was really, real lly frightening and landed on top of the pile on the top of the house basically. i couldn't get up. i mean i wasn't really hurt but i was kind of in a little hole and it was pouring rain. and it was awful. then all of a sudden my cell phone rang. because it had flown out there with me in my pocket. and it was a friend of mine and she said, are you all right? i said, no. anyway, she called 911 and called my daughter and my daughter called my son-in-law and i guess he flew over there -- or went as fast as he could and he got there -- you may have gotten there before -- probably about the same time the firefighters got there. >> brett, what happened when you got that call? how did you find her? >> well, when i got there, there was already four firemen that were in the process of dragging her out at the time. i couldn't tell where they were dragging her out of. it was just such a mess. wasn't really a hole. it just -- rubble. josh allen and john gunning were there and brent davis, police officer, was there. there was two guys i didn't know. i didn't know the other two. josh pretty much carried her out an they helped her to the ground over there. i had just pulled up and they were already getting her out. >> then they put me in the back of his pick-up truck. >> they carried her to the back of the truck and let her sit there a while. they couldn't get an ambulance over there so i took her to the hospital in the back of the truck. >> janice, are you feeling all right? obviously i can see on your face. you're injured. you're talking about your hand and your arm. but physically and mentally, are you in shock? >> well, i think i was definitely in shock then and i think now -- i don't know that it has sunken in quite -- i don't know how i'll feel in a few days. but, yeah, it just basically injured me on the whole right side of my body for some reason. i've got scratches and scrapes and my foot, just -- but everything on the right side. so i don't know. it was awfully -- it was really, really frightening. and you don't realize the force of the wind that you hear people talk about, the suction and i mean, i'm telling you, it just takes you. there's -- it was awful. >> unbelievable story and you recount it in a way that sort of makes it come aleve. brett, you obviously have the best mother-in-law, most amazing mother-in-law in the country. >> good son-in-law! i have a good son-in-law. he was right there. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. well, 20-year-old daryn rabe is facing prison after his former rutgers university roommate tyler clemente committed suicide in 2010. five days into his trial prosecutors say they have laid out a case which shows he deliberately placed a webcam in their room so he and others could watch clemente having a romantic encounter with another man. days after tyler complement ta lea clemente learned he was being watched he killed himself by jumping a bridge in new york. the case gained widespread attention to bring attention to bullying and hate crimes. but there are questions as to how responsible someone else is for tyler clemente taking his own life. there is the law and then there is what you you think as a person might be the right thing to do. legally can he be held responsible? >> he's technically not charged with homicide here. this is not a reckless homicide or manslaughter. believe me,

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