Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Be

Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman



representative bea nguyen, the first vietnamese-american to be elected to the georgia statehouse. we were speaking to lisa ling. she said too often when there are killings like this, we focus on the suspect, on the shooter. we don't ask what should be the first question which is, tell me about the victims. how are the victims? how are the people targeted? in this case, the six asian women who were killed, but also the asian american community in general. so that's my first question to you. how are you doing? what are the feelings within the community this morning. >> well, thank you for asking about that. i think one of the most important things we should do right now is center the victims and their families and center the asian american commune ity here in georgia but across the country. it's been a hard -- it's been a hard couple of days. we're very overwhelmed. there is increased fear amongst our community but there's also deep pain and anger. as you mentioned before, so often, the centering is around the perpetrator. in this case, it's no different. and so we are trying to focus on prioritizing the victims and their family, but we are also trying to amplify the messaging that, look, this has been going on for the past year. the increase in hate crimes against the aapi community. 150% as you referenced earlier. 68% of the victims are asian women. and as we saw with the shooting, six of those who died are asian women. >> you have heard law enforcement say they are not yet willing to call this a hate crime. they say the suspect called it a sex addiction issue. what are your concerns about that reluctance to label it at this point? >> i think that our country has always been reluctant to admit that systemic racism is a real problem that can be deadly. and it certainly was deadly in this case. and, you know there is no denying that he targeted these three businesses that are asian owned. he drove 40 miles from one location to another, and he passed other adult sex entertainment businesses that he could have also shot up. and he chose not to do that. and the fact that he's even characterizing this as eliminating some sort of sex addition problem is dehumanizing and directed at the women who worked in this industry. even if we take away the racial element, our hate crimes law covers sex and gender. so under the hate crimes law that we passed legislatively that i voted for last year, he could still be prosecuted for targeting women in the sex industry. >> that's a fact. that's a law at this point that has been signed in georgia. we played jay baker, the sheriff's deputy saying the suspect had a bad day. how do you -- given those comments and what else you've seen, what's your level of confidence in the investigation this morning? >> well, the shootings took place in multiple jurisdictions, and it's still unclear how we're going to move forward, if there's going to be any intervention from the fbi. on one hand, we have cherokee county, which, you know, we saw some news about the law enforcement officer who himself used racially charged terms and had t-shirts printed off blaming the covid-19 virus on china. and he was selling those for a profit. and so that is alarming and troubling. on the other hand, we do have the atlanta police department, and they have not ruled it out as a hate crime. so we're going to wait and see what happens, but, you know, i still am very firm in my position that, one, he targeted three asian businesses. six asian women are dead and you simply cannot separate the fact that there's hypersexualization of asian women. it's interlinked to sex working industry and you cannot separate the misogyny, the racism and gender-based violence. >> what would make you feel safe after everything that you have been through the last year and what you have seen in your own community the last few days? what would make you feel safe going forward? >> you know, my first priority is making sure that my family feels safe and that the community feels safe. in my role as a public official, i'm always going to have a targ oat my back for speaking my truth. my concerns are around, how do we protect the asian community as a whole. it begins with calling out xenophobia and holding our elected officials accountable for the language they use and adding fuel to the fire as it pertains to the covid-19 virus. and it also begins with recognizing the longstanding history of violence against asian-americans in this country and telling our story and reminding folks this is not a one-time incident. we've seen brutality against our chinese rail workers. incarceration of japanese americans. the brutality against muslim americans following 9/11. i want to make sure we amplify the voices of asian americans and asian people and do so sew without backing down and calling it out when we need to call out racism and xenophobia. >> thank you for joining us. representative bee nguyen, thank you very much. developing this morning, russia is recalling its ambassador to the u.s. for consultations. this is just after president biden said this about russia's interference. >> he will pay a price. we had a long talk, he and i. i know him relatively well. the conversation started off. i know you, and you know me. if i establish this occurred, then be prepared. >> you know vladimir putin. you think he's a killer? >> uh-huh, i do. >> so what price must he pay? >> the price he's going to pay, well, you'll see shortly. >> cnn's matthew chance live in moscow for us this morning. and more reaction coming this morning from moscow. >> yeah, erica. they have not liked these remarks at all here in moscow from joe biden. in the past few minutes, president putin himself has been asked about his response to joe biden's kind of affirmation that he thinks president putin is a killer. he said what would i answer to him? be healthy. i wish him good health and i say this without irony and without joke he said. he also added that people tend to see others as we see ourselves. when we evaluate people and nations, it's always as if we are looking in a mirror. basically playground sort of war of words speech saying, well, kind of takes one to know one or something like that. the kremlin spokesman, putin's spokesman has been a little less cryptic in his response to these remarks by joe biden saying that these are very bad statements by the president of the united states. he definitely does not want to improve relations with us, and we will continue to work with the united states on that basis. not just words either. there's been actions as well. in fact, last night, in a move that hasn't taken place for several decades, the russians recalled their ambassador to the united states, to moscow for consultations to talk specifically, i'm told by my sources, about the joe biden comments and what they mean for the relationship. and also about the whole range of strains and issues that exist in this relationship that's been so fraught between the two nuclear powers for so many years now. so clearly, that's a sign. that act of recalling the ambassador is a sign of anger, i suppose, that the united states, joe biden stepped over some line from the point of view of moscow, but it's also a sign of how concerned the russians are that this relationship is spiraling out of control. they've already got a whole load of sanctions heaped on them over the past several years by this administration recently, but by the previous one as well. and they want those sanctions lifted. but at the moment, the mood seems to be going in the opposite direction. that's deeply concerning for the russian economy and russian leadership. >> matthew chance, thank you. joining us now, andrew mccabe, cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former deputy director of the fbi. i want to start there if we could. i think it's really interesting when you hear matthew put it in perspective there, the reaction that we're seeing is, in his words, reaction of anger but also one of concern. it's an acknowledgment that this is going to be a much different relationship moving forward. >> that's right, erica. i think we have to -- in these diplomatic matters, we always have to keep in mind -- putin has to show force. he has to show a strong reaction. he has to communicate to the russian public that he's not going to take that sort of treatment. i think a lot of that is what's wrapped up in pulling the ambassador back. >> it's also a reaction to just a wild ly different tone from te administration that existed a few months ago. could not humanly be more different on subjects of substance. it's not just president trump's reluctance to blame putin for anything and joe biden two months into the administration calls biden a killer. it's the intelligence -- the leaders of the intelligence community, like dni john ratcliffe who claimed this about efforts to attack the u.s. election in the fall. listen. >> china's using a massive and sophisticated influence campaign that dwarfs anything that any other country is doing. >> so what's so striking about that, this week, andy, is that this new report that was just published said, uh-uh, said that china did not engage in influence efforts. that they considered it but then decided not to, and that it was russia. it was russia who interfered. it's just such a drastic shift. >> it is, john. it's been a long time coming and desperately needed. let's get one thing off the table right away. president biden is correct. vladimir putin is a killer. this is a guy who leads the country that blatantly pursues a policy of assassinating their perceived political enemies in other countries around the world. so there's no question about whether or not the president was correct here. but this sort of -- i hate to call it a reset because that's typically applied to our relationship with the russians in an incorrect way, but this is essentially a massive reset, right? we're now going to start addressing all of the maligned ways that russia consistently targets this country. let's not forget most of the intelligence community believes the russians were responsible for what we now believe is probably the largest, most pervasive hack of u.s. government and private sector with the solarwinds hack. what the intelligence community told us in the dni report a day or so ago that we have very, very strong intelligence that indicates beyond any question the russians meddled in the last two presidential elections. not just the last one. so i think the president is sending a very clear signal here that the days of coddling russia and looking the other way and blaming russian malfeasance on the chinese are over. we are going to address this head-on in a way that's undoubtedly very comfortable -- uncomfortable for vladimir putin. >> we also want to talk about this report looking at domestic violent extremism. you had some really strong thoughts on this. as we're talking about the misinformation that was put out there, you know, as john just pointed out, with that sound from radcliffe. we're also looking at the misinformation that, according to this report, is fueling attacks like what we saw on january 6th, that that attack itself could, in fact, also inspire further attacks, along with conspiracy theories. it's really laying out quite plainly where we are and how we got here. >> it does, erica. in a very, very direct way. and let's remember, these are the nation's smartest, most professional, most accomplished analysts who have access to the absolute best, broadest intelligence we have. and what they said in that report was that we have racially motivated and militia domestic violent extremist groups pose the greatest threat to our nation, that continue to be driven by their historic motivations like racial animus and fear of government overreach. but that threat has been accelerated by the lies about the 2020 election. and so, you know, it doesn't take much to extrapolate that. those people who did and who continue to perpetuate those mistruths, those lies about a stolen election are actually contributing to the threat we face from domestic violent extremist groups. it's a very clear line of, i think, accountability that the report lays out. >> andrew mccabe, thank you for being with us this morning. millions of americans booking vaccination appointments while others booking trips to crowded beaches. what worries miami's mayor, next. still your best friend. and now your co-pilot. still a father. but now a friend. still an electric car. just more electrifying. still a night out. but everything fits in. still hard work. just a little easier. still a legend. just more legendary. chevrolet. making life's journey, just better. ♪ (car horn) ♪ (splash) ♪ turn today's dreams into tomorrow's trips... with millions of flexible booking options. all in one place. expedia. i'm a verizon engineer. we built our 5g nationwide so millions of people could do what they love in verizon 5g quality. and in parts of many cities, we have ultra wideband, the fastest 5g in the world. this is 5g built right. only from verizon. coronavirus cases on the rise in 17 states now. that's an increase of three states from just yesterday. there's concern about the new fast-spreading variants of the virus, and then there's also concerns about this, spring break. scenes like this we're seeing. florida's beaches crowded, restaurants and bars also. joining me to discuss, the mayor of miami, francis suarez. thanks for being with us. talk to us about spring break. we spoke to the mayor of miami beach. he's worried about people flooding the beaches and restaurants and bars. what are your feelings about spring break? >> no doubt it's a tremendous challenge. he's doing a great job trying to control the crowds as much as possible. they have increased the number of police officers. they've increased arrests dramatically. they are implementing a zero-tolerance policy. the issue is we've been, for months, messaging our community. and our community has done a very good job of trying to respect the rules we've established to get the coronavirus under control. wearing masks in public, distancing, washing our hands. all the restaurants have equipped themselves with either plastic guards or handwashing, sanitation stations all throughout the restaurant. we've spent a lot of time and energy and gotten all of our major indicators down. obviously, spring break brings a flood of tourists and they may not be thinking as conscientiously as the people who stay here and have to deal with other repercussions later. >> the trend lines have been good for you over the last several weeks. what concerns you most, though? one of the reasons -- one of the things that scientists are most worried about are the variants which are very present in florida right now. >> you know, what concerns me is what concerns, i think, every mayor. you're trying to vaccinate as quickly as possible so you can get your immunity level up as much as possible. you want people to be able to return to normal and, obviously, be safe. so every day that goes by, where the entire population hasn't been vaccinated, you worry, obviously. also when you have people that come in from out of town, it's just normal. that happens everywhere. they may not be as careful. they, obviously, want to have a good time. when they're having a good time they may not be as concerned about how their actions are impacting others. and that's something that i think the mayor of miami beach has been messaging very dramatically. the mayor of dade county has been collaborating as well. we've been trying to work together to message it correctly and make sure that people know they need to be safe as they have fun. >> messaging in some cases is the major weapon that you as mayor of miami has because the governor in florida, ron desantis, you can't enforce a mask mandate. you can tell people to wear masks but can't really do much to force them to wear masks. governor desantis is taking something of a victory lap for the florida economy right now and how he's handled the pandemic. florida ranks right about in the middle in terms of death and sickness. has he given you the support that you want? >> look, it's -- this pandemic has been incredibly challenging and there's been this notion that you either have to pick one or the other. i think that's been frustrating for elected officials. the governor has taken some decisions that have been very public about in terms of my disagreements and want to maintain local control, particularly fining people for not wearing masks in public. i've analogized it to not wearing a seat belt and that puts yourself in danger as well as other people in danger. so there are things he and i have respectfully disagreed with, but i also have to commend him in a sense because he did take some decisions that were courageous and the fact of the matter, the economy is relatively open. and it is booming. the city of miami is getting a tremendous amount of migration from places like new york and from silicon valley. and people that come here are extremely excited about the fact that they can enjoy the city. they can be out and about and that they can enjoy the normal things they can't do where they're from. and that is going to have a long-term beneficial consequence for the city. no doubt about it. >> you've been a strong proponent of the state and local aid part of the $1.9 trillion relief law. so what will that money that you're going to get as part of this bill, mean to you? >> well, first of all, most people have to understand that in the first c.a.r.e.s. act, cities that have population of less than 500,000 did not get a direct payment. so we were at the mercy of counties, many of which hoarded the money. in the case of miami-dade county, we only got $15 million of the $80 million we should have gotten based on our population. we're basically making up for the fact we didn't get those funds at the beginning. what did we do with them? we want to make sure our first responders are paid well. they are the ones who have been on the front line. our general employees that support those first responders. also that we get direct aid to those most in need in our community. the economic devastation of this pandemic, you know, we don't even know the extent of it. but we've been helping people pay their rent, their mortgage. we've been feeding them, giving them the basics and essentials. we've been helping small businesses stay hope so they can pay their employees. this emergency aid goes to the most affected, most vulnerable in our community to give them a safety net from today until the time where the vaccine takes complete hold and we're able to go back to normal. >> mayor francis suarez, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. he says he's been cursed, yelled at, even pushed simply because he's asian-american. and he's a congressman. we'll hear from him next. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ excuse me ma'am, did you know that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? 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