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survivors. >> this one guy, he was crawling on all fours and it seemed as if he had been shot in his back and he was just gasping for air, it was terrible. >> the battle wages again over america's gun laws. the shooter bought all four of his weapons legally in the last four months. this is "piers morgan tonight." an act of evil that in seconds left 12 people dead. all the victims wanted was to see the new batman film. a packed theater, nowhere to run or escape from this maniac. police say the killer is james holmes, a 24-year-old ph.d. student. calmly vigil for the victims is being held right now. we're going to have all the latest developments on this tragedy tonight. first, we listen to what new york mayor bloomberg said today about the massacre. >> no matter where you stand on guns, we have a right to hear from both of them concretely. not just in general. specifically, what are they going to do about guns. and maybe every governor should stand up. but in the end, it is really the leadership at a national level, which is whoever's going to be president of the united states starting next january 1. what are they going to do about guns? >> i agree with mayor bloomberg. i fully respect the second amendment and every american's desire to defend themselves in their homes. i simply don't believe the framers of the constitution would have ever envisioned this disturbed young man. specifically to murder fellow americans. there are now almost as many guns in america as there are people and this could only surely lead to more senseless death. something has to be done. and that debate will start tonight. first, we start with our focus on the victims. with me now is a family who was in the theater and survived the massacre. they were at the premiere when the killer opened fire. they join me now for an exclusive interview. welcome to you both. an appalling day for you, for those who lost their lives, for america. tell me what happened. what was the first that you knew that this was going down? >> the first thing that happened is he came in through the exit door, through, you know, what is being said is tear gas. it was thrown across the theater and it popped and you see the smoke coming out. it almost hit somebody. at first you're thinking, oh, it's a prank. and he walks out and comes back in and next thing you know, you just see the flashes just coming out of his gun and that's when it was like this isn't a joke, this is real. as that was happening, jamie yelled -- >> patricia, i'm terribly sorry, i have to hold you for one moment. >> okay. >> the press conference down in aurora is going to start. we'll go live to the press conference and i'll come straight back to you and jamie. >> our governor, governor hickenlooper, makes remarks. governor hickenlooper. >> so this has been a long day and i appreciate how long a day it's been for all of you in the media. we are seeing the community rise up and do the things that great communities do. we're dealing with this. 70 casualties, not 71, there was a double reporting there, but the stories that are going to come out of this of how in a remarkably short time the police force in aurora responded to this situation. their efficiency in making an apprehension. the ability of our hospitals in remarkably short order to take care of all of these casualties, in an incredible system -- not to say -- i'm not saying it was all perfect but as this story is told, it will be remarkable. as of 3:30, we still had 30 patients in hospitals. 11 still in critical condition. you know, this is -- it's an act that defies description. you can't connect emotions that we commonly think of. i mean, everyone i've talked to all day is filled with an anger that can't find focus. and i think the challenge for all of us as a community is to recognize we have to move past that. obviously there's going to be a level of accountability to this. individual is clearly disturbed. either we will or we will not know exactly the roots of that, of how deep that disturbance is. we know how deep it is but where it came from. but we are clear that we are going to rise back and lift ourselves above this. i visited several of the families in the hospital and we're going to have obviously some when you have that many people that have been injured you're going to have people with lifetime disabilities. and we're already as a community beginning to come together givingfirst.org within three hours we had $125,000 of matching gifts so as they raise money this is through one of the hospitals but all the hospitals are going to participate. to make sure the victims of of this senseless act of violence that -- again, there just aren't words. we want to do everything we can to make sure the victims are brought back. in every way. and supported in every way that we can. we're not going to let this community be defined by such a -- you know, if i had more sleep i might have a better vocabulary. anyway, i do think that the first responders were unbelievable, and their ability to work together and coordinate. our support from the federal government has been incredible. secretary napolitano call me from homeland security earlier this morning and wanted to do everything she could. she was a little late because president obama called me before that. but not till after he called mayor hogan. he called the police chief. he called -- the whole country recognizes that this is something we don't accept, we can't explain at this point. but we're not -- we're not going to just let it happen to us. we're going to push back. i also -- mayor hogan's not here. his leadership has been remarkable. and in times like this, you see, you know, what is the true quality of people and how can they deal with situations that, you know, there's no training, there's no way you can prepare for something like this. i think the way he's handled all the integration of the different efforts between the federal and the state, the county and the local, it really is a remarkable skill. he's been able to keep everybody focused together. no one's pointing fingers. everybody's looking forward to the next step. all right, this has happened what do we do next? so in that sense -- and chief hot's unbelievable. i don't think i've ever done this but i think you should all give chief oates a hand. so i'll give it back to chief oates. >> okay, thank you, governor. i want to point out that standing behind me are quite a few of our elected city officials and our state representatives. congressman pearl mutter's also with us. also joining me here is special agent jimmy cone of the fbi and special agent andrew traver of atf. our federal partners have been absolutely tremendous in supporting us. i want to start by saying how proud i am of the men and women of the aurora police department and fire department and mike garcia from the fire department, the chief of the fire department is also here with us. okay. we got to straighten out some numbers. there are a total of 70 injured in this event. as of this time, 12 dead. still the number is 10 in the theater and the last of the bodies were removed from the theater a little after 5:00 this afternoon. i want to correct one thing. i think earlier today i said the others were all hit by gunfire. i now know a handful of the people who were brought to area hospitals were not hit by gunfire but suffered other injured as a result of the chaos and trauma in the theater. and i can't tell you how many that is but it's a small number. nearly everyone was shot. little information about our subject and the weapons he obtained. in the last 60 days, he sured four guns at local metro gun shops and through the internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition. more than 3,000 rounds of 223 ammunition for the assault rifle. 3,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition for the two glocks in his possession. and 300 rounds for the 12 gauge shotgun. also through the internet, he purchased multiple magazines for the 223 caliber assault rifle, including one 100-round drum magazine, which was recovered from the scene. i've been asked, was the weapon automatic or semiautomatic. i can't answer that question now. even if it was semiautomatic, i'm told by experts that with that drum magazine, he could have gotten off 50 to 60 rounds, even if it was semiautomatic, within one minute. and as far as we know, it was a pretty rapid pace of fire in that theater. this evening at 4:00, members of the police department and the many supporting agencies that have provided victim service advocates to support us met with approximately seven family and friends -- 70 members of family and friends who have not had an accounting of their missing loved ones. we met with them for approximately 90 minutes. we discussed all our efforts to identify the 10 bodies in the theater. and did the best we could to deal with their grief and anguish. we are hopeful that sometime in the next hour we will get a confirmed list of the ten deceased and we will begin the agonizing process of meeting with those families and confirming what has happened to their loved ones. i can't emphasize enough the support of all our colleaguings in local law enforcement in handing that extraordinarily difficult task. we're also aided by our own police department psychologists. aurora public schools has made available two high schools for tomorrow beginning at 9:00 a.m. for professional grief counseling and other resources, including the resources of aurora mental health and the red cross. those two schools will open at 9:00 a.m. superen tndant john barry was with us to meet with the families and the support of the superintendent and the aurora public schools has been absolutely tremendous. in addition, i'll talk a little about the paris street location. we evacuated five apartment buildings including the apartment building of the subject. those evacuees have been staying at central high school. again, with the support of aurora public schools. with regard to the paris location, it is a very vexing problem how to enter that apartment safely. i personally have never seen anything like what the pictures show us is in there. i'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. i see an awful lot of wires, trip wires, jars full of ammunition, jars full of liquid. some things that look like mortar rounds. we have a lot of challenge, to get in there safely. we decided this evening to postpone action on that till tomorrow sometime. all our folks were pretty well taxed and we needed a break and we're also bringing in extra resources to consult on exactly how to deal with that problem. we're hopeful we will address and resolve that problem tomorrow. unfortunately, this means that the families that were evacuated have to spend an evening in the evacuation center. we are at this time allowing families, one by one, to go back into four of the five buildings to retrieve necessities like medication and those kinds of things. and, again, our hope is that we'll resolve that tomorrow. with regard to the investigation, i can tell you, we know a little bit more about our subject. we know he recently left the university of colorado medical school neuroscience program -- it was a voluntary separation. we know he originally hails from riverside, california and attended uc riverside california campus. neighbors report to us he lived alone and he kept to himself. i have the same cautions about the social media. one of the things modern investigators do is watch what appears on the internet to see what clues we can find and we know you do that too, okay, and in the era of blogs and everything else, we just caution you that everything you read may not be true. okay. with regard to our theaters in aurora. we are -- there are four theaters in aurora that show this movie. until further notice, we will have some extra security at those theaters out of an abundance of caution. i will tell you, i've been getting phone calls from some colleagues around the country asking about this. i told them i don't know what you should do at your theaters but that's what we're going to do in aurora for a while it we are fully staffed in all our districts. we're on 12-hour shifts because of the demands to support the crime scene. and the new event on paris. and thanks to the arapaho s.w.a.t. team and the denver s.w.a.t. team, if we have any demand over the days for those assets, we will turn to our colleagues to help us. the aurora town centre will be open tomorrow. they've been cooperative with the aurora police department. i have a new tip line. if there are further tips that anyone wants to call, it's the crime stoppers number. 720-913-stop. or 720-913-7867. we're also offering a general information line. for the community. not for the press. i think the press knows how to reach us. this is for the community if they have questions. the general information number is 303-739-1862. our suspect is now in arapaho county jail. i just got a call from the sheriff. he asked me if i wanted his picture released. i i said no. so i won't be releasing his picture. he'll be arraigned or have first court appearance 8:30 a.m. on monday in arapahoe district court. there has been an overwhelming outpouring of support for our families, for or victims, for our community, for our cops, for our firefighters, for our ems people, for our investigators, by this entire community. we've received concern and condolences. just remarkable. our community restaurants started pouring pizzas and food into our station houses here. just to show support for our police department. and it's just absolutely wonderful. on behalf of the city, sunday at 6:30 p.m., there will be a prayer vigil right here in front of the aurora municipal center. we know the governor and the mayor will speak and there will be be an appropriate moment for reflection for our community. finally, i want to offer a huge thanks to our coroner, michael doverson, for all he has done, to help us with the crime scene today and to expedite the recovery and identification of the bodies which is so, so important to our community. and in terms of the next press briefing, we expect to be able to brief you tomorrow afternoon right here at 2:00 p.m. i will take questions. >> any sign of a motive at this point? >> if we have information about a motive, we will not share it with you. we'd let that play out in the course of the criminal prosecution. >> he's talking to you though? >> i won't talk about his admissions. yes? >> -- that quick legal -- >> my understanding is all the weapons he possessed, he possessed legally. and all the clips he possessed, he possessed legally. and all the ammunition he possessed, he possessed legally. yes? [ inaudible ] no, i won't discuss how he got in. that's part of our investigation. as much as i'd like to be cooperative with you folks, the most important thing is there is justice for these victims. and that justice will occur in a courtroom. so whenever i say no here, it's because there's a higher reason and that is to make sure he is prosecuted correctly. yes, ma'am. [ inaudible ] no, i can't. >> describe -- >> i gave a description this morning of his appearance. he was dressed all in black. for those of you who don't have this. entirely in black, wearing a gas mask, a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest. tactical means places to put all kinds of gear and clips. in addition, it was bulletproof. or bullet resistant. he was wearing ballistic legging in case he took a round in the legs. he was wearing throat protection and groin protection and he was wearing black tactical gloves. so that's what he looks like in the theater. >> chief, can you tell us if the devices that -- >> i don't know enough about -- those of you who were here this morning know i reported that he released it appears two devices that set off some sort of smoke and/or chemical irritant. i don't know enough about them right now to answer any questions. yes? [ inaudible ] our cops went through a lot. as i told you this morning, they rushed people out of that theater, into police cars. i've heard some compelling stories. one of the things we're working on is how we're going to deal with our own trauma. and we spent some time today with our three department psychologists and somehow in the next couple of days when this is -- when this has slowed down, one of our highest priorities is to deal with our own officers and how they cope with this event. and that's really all i have to say about this. anything else? yes? >> -- armor -- >> i don't know where he got the armor. >> what about the mask? >> it was a gas mask. >> the families -- >> i apologize, i don't now how many families are evacuated. there are a total of five. they're roughly the same size. three story buildings were anywhere from 6 to 10 units on a floor so you can do the math. >> -- the armor the -- obviously s.w.a.t. was not -- but they got there really quickly -- >> the officers who responded were wearing a regular uniform equipment including ballistic protection. we had a lot of people out last night. because it was a friday night and we have a special summer initiative under way where there's extra officers on th street. we were fortunate we had about 25 officers there like that. as i said earlier, in the end, somewhere between 150 to 200 officers and deputies fairly quickly there after. sorry? [ inaudible ] i have no way to answer that question. if i knew, i wouldn't. [ inaudible ] i was asked if he had an attorney. yes, he has an attorney. and the question was, i'm sorry, was -- [ inaudible ] >> off-duty security at the theater -- >> yes, and we usually work off-duty security at the theater on weekends. this was a thursday night. and we were not there. but we were there within about 90 seconds. [ inaudible ] oh, i'm doing just fine. yes, sir. [ inaudible ] i have some information from my detectives on his demeanor since his arrest but i will not share it with you. one more question. [ inaudible ] i don't know how many bullets went through the adjacent theater. i know enough went through that one person was hit. that concludes this briefing. thank you very much, folks. >> an emotional press conference there with dan oates who's the aurora police chief in colorado. 12 dead. 70 injured. 12 dead, 58 people injured. one less than was first suspended. 30 hospitalized. 11 remain in critical condition. not everybody was hit by gunfire. some were injured in the melee that followed. he also released some extraordinary statistics about the ammunition that he built up. 6,000 rounds of ammunition he got on the internet. including 100-round drum magazine for an assault rifle which he then deployed which could have fired 50 or 60 rounds in one minute. quite extraordinary that he should find this legally obtainable in modern america. we'll come back and discuss that after the break and also talk to some of the victims of this atrocity. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. 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