reason, but then you just get back in the game. it's amazing, amazing we're rooting for her to the lead with jake tapper starts right now a week of historical significance. the lead starts right now the huge decision earlier today from the u.s. supreme court ruling, that former president donald trump has limited immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts. he took his precedent and cooling possibly so i'm related to the effort to overturn the election what this ruling means for pending cases against the former president plus how trump's team intends to use today's opinion to challenge the verdict in the new york hush money cover-up case where trump is set to be sentenced next week. all of this at the same time that official democrats in dc and across the country are panicking stressing freaking out over whether they can continue with president biden at the top of their ticket given his shall we say, troubling behavior during last week's debate? >> there are very honest and serious and rigorous conversations taking place at every level of our party on his conversations with journalists and democrats about biden's abilities coming up on the lead and moment of extreme as steve bannon we're trump chief strategist reports to prison my voice is going to be heard every day and more importantly their voices are going welcome to the lean. >> i'm jake tapper and yes, we're going to start with are 2024 lead are we find two colossal events that could keep donald trump's road back to the white house today on the very last day of its term, the u.s. supreme court ruled that former president trump does have immunity for some official actions during his presidency, possibly including attempts to overturn the 2020 election. but the justices did not specify exactly which actions that includes which sets up another lower court battle in the january 6 case and making it incredibly unlikely that trump will actually face that trial before the november election on the other side of the ballot in just hours, president biden will return to washington, dc. undoubtedly a weaker candidate than he was at this point last week. president biden huddled at camp david over the weekend with his family, which sources say encouraged him to stay in the race his family reportedly blaming biden's stunningly flawed debate performance on his top aides and advisors. today, biden divisors tells cnn's jeff zeleny that the president is considering sitting down for a high-profile interview in the coming days in an attempt to reassure voters about his fitness for office. biden campaign chair jen o'malley, dillon, holding and your car with call with party leaders earlier today telling them this too shall pass there is a pattern discernible pattern of democratic officials seemingly trying to convince you the public to not believe what you saw and what you heard with your eyes and with your ears on thursday night the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with what if we finally beat medicare the total initiative relative to what we didn't do with more border patrol and more asylum officers president trump, i really don't know what he said at the end of this sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either democratic officials have tried to spin this in many ways. they said president biden just had a cold. they said it was just one off night, akin to when president obama in 2012 was rusty and seemed a little huffy but behind the scenes, make no mistake. most democratic officials witnessed the same shocking spectacle that you did the difficulty that the presumptive democratic nominee, the current president of the united states, had just articulating his basic thoughts during the 90 minutes of the debate the spinning is all very reminiscent of the george orwell quote from the book 1984 that i invoked five years ago for a different situation in a different president. it's relevant again today, quote. the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. it was their final most essential command we're not going to do that today on the lead, we're going to talk honestly and frankly lee about all of this with a number of individuals who see it for what it is. we're going to talk to some journalists and some democrats, none of whom wish president biden ill, all of whom apparently are more willing to speak freely honestly and candidly about the candidate than the people running the biden campaign, the people close to president biden. and frankly, most democratic officials it's across the country. let's bring a democratic strategist, james carville, the former lead strategies for bill clinton's 1992 campaign james can president biden win reelection this november it does not the real question here, real question here is a supreme court that's bought and paid for by rvs and efficient life. >> we have a country that 72% want something different if the democratic party can't produce something different at 72% people want why do we exist? what are we here for to country is clamoring for change in what are we going to offer them the same stuff. it doesn't make any sense, jake gift people what they want, box populi. they want something different. let's give it to them i mean, i just don't get the whole thing. i'll be honest with you. i'm from boxing hours, everybody saw what they saw thursday night i don't take any pleasure in this was a year ago. i'm going to be at an october. you can't fight this stuff. it's just there so what happens? >> what do you think the democrats should do? >> something different all right in i don't know. >> it'd be messy it it'll be it'll be a massive you know, that that's where change is. but if the democratic party is so committed to the status quo, and so committed to sticking with something that three quarters of the country doesn't want then we have to say, why do weeds? yes what are we here for and in my and we are here to change civil rights. we will here to bring change in medicare and do great things and family and medical leave and expanded health care. and great things that are part of my party while i love it. but if we can't bring something that people want i have to doubt our rationale for being here. are i really do biden huddled with his family over the weekend at camp david and were told that his family thinks he should stay in the race. what's your response? >> i've been 50 year and people say, james, i my family loves me and people like you and you all just looking for the next scalp, next nosh on your bare to make the next maybe we do in, maybe they love you, but their judgment is clouded by log i mean, i really like christmas. biden man the country want something new when i'm having why, are we fighting inevitable desire on? second deliberate, i mean, trump is going to be sentenced on july 11. supreme court is like commodity. we don't even want to discuss this, but give to people of shot that i'm look at. who's in the party and i believe there's staggering calendar democratic party get out the way and let 1,000 flowers bloom. >> but do you think they should have democrats? do you think democrats should have an open convention? do you think that they should announce? we're having primaries the next four weeks and then we'll take how would you even go about doing this you're now i go about it by fan let everybody decide. >> i have four forums around the country. i don't know, have people address the conviction? but just sit there and do something. people want something different. i mean, you go back and you look at american history and, you know, after pearl harbor, nimitz was the head of the bureau navigation, you know what he did, he wouldn't and he took action martin luther king was comfortable preach at a church in montgomery. he didn't just fit get something in that's our history and people say, well, a process and just in that i don't know but do something to open this process. and all the people are asked i can far is something different and why not give it to them? why did we fight with them in an organ, whether he had a bad night or colder are the stamp over worked him? are all of the ada nonsense that we hearing president biden a great guy, and i'm a great guy too. i don't have any business running campaigns anymore. >> president clinton and president clinton and president obama have both given a statements in support of president biden. >> is that how they really feel? do you think? >> de have i think a reverential view of y, where x pressure should do, and i don't think it's their job to do that. i think it's their job to salute the flag, to salute nominee. i don't expect them to get involved in niche. what i expect is people are elected in office that have influenced and have power to say we're sitting here in letting this country deteriorate right in front of our very eyes. in the only hope for this, for the united states of america is the democratic party. that's it i hate to break the news, everybody but the whole country is looking to us and all they're asking for is something different. let's give it to him. who do you think would be stronger? which democrats which democrat that you think would be strongest? we've heard so many names. governor newsom of california, governor whitmer, governor shapiro, and pennsylvania obviously senator warnock pete buttigieg, vice president harris, who do you think has the best chance of beating trump let, let democrat are side all of these people are marvelously talented people that you and i know about but 99% of the country doesn't know about. >> and you know what people will do. they will pay attention, they will listen to what senator warnock has to say yeah, governor newsom, but vice president harris all or anybody else? i don't want to give names because but let them all go out and make their case. and i think to country is concerned enough engaged enough it's 72% are, i know that that number i'll stick with the hole, this whole interview and let them decide this is our democracy, just how country's future just don't fit their do something man, belbek james carville. thank you for your candor. always good to have you on. appreciate it coming up. what michigan. michigan? i'm going to gretchen whitmer says about her name being floated as a possible replacement for biden plus her colorful choice of words today for people who don't believe her. the other big story of the day, the u.s. supreme court ruling that donald trump is entitled to immunity for official acts as strong leinz from justices who dissented in today's decision will tell you about that. plus the larger impact on cases that trump's still faces were back in a moment five, good things. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts if you were moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks you still laura from the start? and move toward relief after the first dose with injections every two 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not, which means that trump's january 6 case it is unlikely to happen before november's election if at all. cnn's paula reid has more on how we got to today's ruling presidents have to be given total immunity. >> they have to be allowed to do the job the supreme court partially siding with former president donald trump in his ongoing january 6 case ruling that former presidents are entitled to some immunity from prosecution for official actions, but not for private conduct. >> in the 6-3 opinion, chief justice john roberts writing for the majority, at least with respect to the president's exercise of his core constitutional powers. this immunity must be absolute. the president enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts and not everything the president does is official. the president it is not above the law. the high court though, leaving it up to lower courts to determine which actions are official and therefore immune. roberts writing other allegations such as those involving trump's interactions with the vice president, state officials, and certain private parties and his comments to the general public present more difficult questions, meaning district court judge tanya chutkan, who is overseeing trump's january 6 case, will need to decide whether trump's pressure campaign to get vice president pence, the mike pence does the right thing. we win the election. >> georgia state officials, i just want to find 11,780 wow, it's which is one more than we have because we won the state and others to overturn the 2020 election results were official acts. >> trump's celebrating the decision on social media, posting, big win for our constitution and democracy. justice sonia sotomayor dissenting from i'm the majority opinion, writing the relationship between the president and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably in every use of official power. the president is now a king above the law, something she and other liberal justices warned about during oral arguments in april, i'm trying to understand what the disk incentive is from turning the oval office into the seat of criminal activity in this country. >> the decision today likely to hamstrings special counsel jack smith's election subversion case, charging donald j. trump with conspiring to defraud the united states conspiring to disenfranchise voters. and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding roberts making clear in his majority opinion that trump's discussions with justice department officials and his official conversations with the then vice president are immune. >> and in another blow for smith, robert says, trump's official acts cannot be considered even as evidence at trial. a trial in this case so now highly unlikely before the november election but of course the former president has many other legal cases he is facing. and the next event on his legal calendar is next week, a sentencing in the new york criminal case. now sources tell me we can expect trump's legal team who use today's supreme court opinion to attack that can fiction. specifically, they're going to use this opinion to try to get thrown out portions of hope hicks is testimony as well as some tweets that are introduced as evidence. now it's unclear if this opinion will be enough to upend that case, but clearly, jake, today's supreme court opinion giving trump's lawyers a lot to work with over the next few months alright. paula reid outside the court. thank you so much. let's bring in my legal panel, tim parlatore, let me start with you. what was your reaction to today's supreme court ruling it's very similar to what i expected. i wasn't necessarily expect them to cut it into the three pieces as they did of the absolute immunity presumptively immune, and then not immune but i think it does make sense to me based on how it is developed that they were going to find some form of immunity and then define contours and then kick it back down to the district court. actually have a hearing and figure out how does this rule apply to this case, victoria, what did you think? well, i was saddened because they didn't start out the same way they did in the clinton case. so the nixon tapes case with a very powerful statement that no one is above the law. they left that till the end. and the court created a lot of doctrine that is entirely new that's, not judicially restrained in my view, and that the district court's going to have to deal with as to the division between and your, your listeners are going to know about official versus unofficial acts. what is private, what isn't no one thought that he if someone doesn't official statement or if obama sends dropped grounds that he can be criminally prosecuted for that but what about seal team six? right. what about that hypothetical by judge pan in the dc circuit. so he ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival. is that official or is it that private? >> yeah tim, how quickly do you think there could be an evidentiary hearing on this matter about what is official, what is not official, what can trump be prosecuted for? what can he not? how quickly could they call vice president pence or mark meadows or anyone to the stand to get out. this information? ten grand jury testimony and evidence. >> i think they could do it pretty quickly and that's the kind of the interesting thing about this decision debate. setting aside the legal precedent of how this is going to affect future administrations as applied this donald trump both sides are going to get what they want because they can have a pretrial hearing right now and she could do very quickly. they already have all the discovery they just need to get a conference together with the judge and figure out a schedule because it's going to be before the judge instead of a jury, you can do it on non nonconsecutive days, so you could do it three days here, two days there? and also because it's a pretrial hearing, rules of evidence don't apply, so they can bring in