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my team, the florida panthers, not good for that guy. he's a good dad. that was pretty amazing, right wasn't a good dad. jake tapper, the lead with jake tapper? or it's right now we're just two days away from the biggest night of the 2024 campaign, the league starts right now we're covering thursday's debate from all angles. >> the three topics the trump campaign wants to focus on and how team biden could respond also, wikileaks founder set to plead guilty after leaking thousands of classified documents. julian sanchez standoff with the the us is coming to an end. i'll talk to his brother plus dramatic scenes out of kenya. protesters storming parliament building and then setting it on fire. outrage against a finance welcome to lead. >> i'm thematically in for jake tapper we start today with our 2024 leave because of course we're just two days away from the very first presidential debate of this election cycle. thursday night, right here on cnn, president joe biden and former president donald trump will take the stage and trying to sell voters on their visions for the next four years. sources say president biden and his advisers have started mock debates at camp david while the trump team is narrowing in on a few specific topics, they want to bring up during the debate. we start things off. cnn's kayla tausche at the white house and cnn's kristen holmes down in west palm beach, florida near trump's mar-a-lago home. kayla, let's start with you. walk us through these mock debates house everything unfolding for a very, very leak-proof operation at this point yes at least that is the goal fill the bind team has now been hunkered down at the rural mountainside retreat for nearly five days, going through the motions of going through material surreal culminating in those mock debates that i'm told began yesterday where the team felt like they had enough of a sense of how to run those practice debates of what i'm i told we're varying lengths to practice what they think will come up in the debate and what they want. president biden to be both reacting to and pro who actively bringing up on his own, i'm told that at camp david, the team is undergoing long working days as the preparation is geared toward both of this substance on stage as well. well as the stamina required for a pretty busy stretch with the 9:00 p.m. debate going late into the evening, followed by at traveled to north carolina and a rally taking place. the next day. they'd been talking about a number of things that could come up. notably, what the biden campaign expects to be a focus for the president and two, on abortion, democracy, and what they see as the danger of the trump economy. the campaign released an ad to that effect earlier, this morning. that's going to be running in battleground states as part of $50 in ad spend in the month of june where they say that donald trump is in it for himself and joe biden is. in it for voters, for their families. now that message has been crafted in recent weeks and it comes after weeks of top democrats telling the campaign that they're needed to be shifted messaging that biden touting his accomplishments on the economy just simply wasn't moving voters that he needed to take a tougher line of attack, fill kristen over you. >> obviously, the biden okay, i'm paying very structured and some level normal in terms of a tape of eight process that's not how trump operates, nor his team. once you've been doing over the course of that last two days, i guess was i just got off the phone with the number of trump's senior advisers. they held a call with a border has kind of just walking through the debate. a lot of it was levels settings saying that joe biden has shown up and performed before, but they also talked about what they want to focus on are what they hope that donald trump will be focusing on talking about the economy, specifically, inflation, talking about crime rates talking about immigration. in particular, they say that he will be comparing and contrasting his administration to that of president joe biden. now when you talk about those issues, the economy let me particularly inflation immigration, crime. these are all issues that donald trump polls ahead of biden on. and that is part of the reason why his team wants him to focus on this. they know that biden is going to bring up things like abortion. democracy is going to bring up what happened on january 6, or at least they are preparing for that. but what they are hoping and talk seem to trump about doing is pivoting to the things that the voters have shown through these various polls that they care about, but they believe that donald trump is quote, unquote better at now one thing i want to point out here is pretty interesting. donald trump is not usually a candid person. he often says, things are easy. he doesn't have to do any work, but he did give an interview with the washington examiner in which he talked about debate prep and one of the lines he said, again, particularly candid when it comes to donald trump. he said it's very hard to prepare for debates, adding debating is an attitude more than anything else. but if you talk to donald trump's team is visor, they don't want much of the attitude. they don't want much of the attacks on biden. they are hoping that he can and stick to the actual messaging. again immigration crime, the economy particularly inflation, when he gets up there on that stage, fill all right. >> tausche, kristen holmes. thanks. so much. well, a federal judge just rolled back. parts or former president trump's gag order. that's ahead of his sentencing in the new york hush money case. cnn's paula reid joins me now. what does this actually mean for the former president will fill? >> it means the former president can now speak freely about stormy daniels, michael cohen, and anyone else who testified in his new york criminal trial. he is also now a free to speak about the jury. this was a little surprising and even the judge said he was quote reluctant to lift this portion of the gag order because he said that there were still ample evidence to justify continued concern for jurors, but no one who served on that jury has come out publicly and trump is still prohibited from identifying any of them. in a public arena. now, large parts of the gag orders are still in place because prosecutors, for example, they're still working on his sentencing, which is currently scheduled for july 11. so he's still cannot talk about prosecutors, court staff, or their family. they might be wondering why is the judge doing this now? well, the judge said et quote, circumstances have changed. he said that he crafted this gag order narrowly around the time of the trial to protect against certain extra judicial statements that trump would make. but of course, this move comes just two days before the cnn debate were trump's conviction will likely come up now the trump team tells me they are still unsatisfied with this and call what's left of the gag order, quote un-american. and they avowed two once again challenge this gag order in court. fill timing is everything. paula reid, thanks so much. my panel joins me now to discuss first trump saying that debating is an ads. it's like it's a vibe, right? like essentially like debating is a vibe. you should, that's what you were talking to biden about back in service and actually prep was just all vibes does this all it's just all it's all about five hours per day of box. >> we know donald trump and his team are going to attack biden on immigration. >> here's what trump said about it during his most recent rally. >> you know, we had the safest border and the history of our country. now we have the unsafe is border in the history of the world i've been how stupid is an open border. >> but equally and to be honest with you have much more importantly, open borders because you have millions of people coming in. they're coming from all of these places deserve causing tremendous death the kate for all of the unpredictability of people attributes to donald trump, you know, this is coming from the biden team. >> what are you telling the president if you're in that room? >> go right back at him say, we had solutions on the table you through them aside, you said you'd rather have this as a political issue. i think there is a lot of purchase for biden in that argument. i don't think he should be feel like he needs to be back on his heels on this. i think he can certainly and should talk about what he's done, those steps that he's taken over the last few months in particular, he can talk about the fact that on day one, the oval office, he puts fourth a comprehensive plans, sent it to congress that he is consistently worked on this issue. but i think the big weakness for trump on this issue is the fact that he scuttled a deal that he essentially said, i want this as a political issue. people don't like that. the other thing i would say about this i think is maybe a little counter-intuitive people like the tougher measures, no question, but they don't like a lot of trump's rhetoric around this issue when he says that immigrants poison the blood of our country and they didn't like family separation. so there can also be some benefit, i think for biden and getting trump going on this issue because trump has a tendency to say things that really turn off those moderate voters who are going to be decisive in this election, madhok you back woman, how are you it's your, the trump team framing this issue. >> they're up on double-digit points on this. if you pull absolutely think it's one of the best issues have not be best issue. >> but do they need to be careful about how they approach it? i think in some respects, but look, the overton window has shifted on this issue just in the last five years. i mean, always been doing this for a long time. always we'd always talked about when it came to immigration, there was border security but there's also some sort of legal status, citizenship conversation that has been pushed aside because it's issue is so potent on the border security part. and i think one thing also speaks to the potency of the issue is the biden team felt the need to not only rely on that attack about scuttling the deal, they felt they needed to do something on the decorative or do you feel that need to go further if that wasn't the case, i thought they're winning on that issue. they would need to go on the executive order. and so i feel like again, bring it back to immigration much as possible. crime, safety, immigration, those are his no pun intended safe grounds. he can pivot back to you. >> i think gorman just call me old it's fair covered immigration as closely and more deeply than probably most people in this town over the course last several years to matt's point, the overton window has shifted the debate is in a different place than it has ever been before kind of what ask, hey, how does the biden team counter that is the legislative issues a way to actually connect because it's a debate. it's a challenge and share right? i mean, i do think that the pendulum has completely swung to the right here on the politics of immigration in the past few years years ago, we might be talking about one the democratic nominee, talking about the need for legalization in exchange for border security while there public and nominee emphasizes the need for border security. now you're going to have two people almost trying to flex their border security bona fides on stage i do know that the biden administration is crafting a strategy here where they point at both executive actions taken recently that providing relief to undocumented spouses and the united states flipping that to say we united families, you separated families as well as the previous executive action that limited asylum at the southwest border. they'll also highlight numbers and say, look, i mean may 2019, the trump administration also struggled with a record number of monthly border crossing. now those encounters have more than doubled under the biden administration. i think the central question here is, can a sort of sophisticated argument around, we worked with you in congress? you opposed it, then former president trump said to tank a bill that would have invested in board security. can that match up against spotlighting a crime committed by individuals out of those millions, we can stoking division, square up against sort of a, a bit more of a complicated argument get around the policies you attempted to implement. yeah. there's sort of a compassionate conservatism in some ways that i think biden is attempting with the executive orders in this more comprehensive bill, it certainly has shifted to the right. >> it's not even trump. i think that has made it shift to the right. i think it was greg abbott sending my roots to these different aisle blue states. so now folks who are in blue states or are now experiencing a lot of these issues. and it's not even crime, it's like overcrowding in some of these areas and just the sight of people who are unhoused has made this an issue. i think that's front and center for a lot of folks. what i do think the sort of nuances there's nuance work against trump's hammer. right? >> and i think but the key for biden is to make the hammer seen terrible in inhumane, right? one of the policies he wants is to deport all these folks, right? what is the impact on the economy of that? something vicious and terrible that he said was this idea of a fight club of migraines, which is a terrible ideas. i think that's going to be a trick i think for the biden team to try to inject into this conversation running out of time. but i want you both to have a quick answer to this. >> it's that point is nuanced possible in this moment, you've both been in the room with these candidate, with candidates before these big moments trying to explain closure is probably not i'm going to work. not gonna do it right? >> well, no one's well, no i got i hope no one's arguing that. no. it trying to flint closure would be losing strategy. i disagree a little bit that saying the republicans and donald trump wouldn't come to the table and play ball is complicated. i think people fundamentally get that however a complicated argument, broadly speaking, no does it land well innovate? it does not. what people respond two and debates is emotion a sense of authenticity, a sense of control? and so in that i can't believe i'm going to say this, but in that sense, i sort of agree with donald trump abating is a lot about attitude. you also have to have the facts. you have to have an argument. you have to know what you want to say. gdn humanizing issue humanizes families easier than nuancing something, but they can go to the same effect no matter what part of your talking about matt gorman is a permanent five. thank you. >> appreciate and coming up. now that julian 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