might— contacting you because i think i might be — contacting you because i think i might be among _ contacting you because i think i might be among the _ contacting you because i think i might be among the farthest i might be among the farthest flung postal— might be among the farthest flung postal voters _ might be among the farthest flung postal voters. i've _ might be among the farthest flung postal voters. i've got— might be among the farthest flung postal voters. i've got a _ might be among the farthest flung postal voters. i've got a postal- postal voters. i've got a postal vote _ postal voters. i've got a postal vote because _ postal voters. i've got a postal vote because i'm _ postal voters. i've got a postal vote because i'm leaving - postal voters. i've got a postal. vote because i'm leaving england postal voters. i've got a postal- vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd _ vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd of— vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd ofjuty— vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd ofjuty to _ vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd ofjuly to fly _ vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd ofjuly to fly to _ vote because i'm leaving england on the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, - the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i11— the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i'll be _ the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i'll be working _ the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i'll be working as - the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i'll be working as a - the 3rd ofjuly to fly to malaysia, where i'll be working as a musici where i'll be working as a music teacher— where i'll be working as a music teacher in— where i'll be working as a music teacher in penning _ where i'll be working as a music teacher in penning for— where i'll be working as a music teacher in penning for a - where i'll be working as a music teacher in penning for a couple i where i'll be working as a music. teacher in penning for a couple of weeks _ teacher in penning for a couple of weeks thanks _ teacher in penning for a couple of weeks. thanks for— teacher in penning for a couple of weeks. thanks for a _ teacher in penning for a couple of weeks. thanks for a great - teacher in penning for a couple of. weeks. thanks for a great podcast, by. weeks. thanks for a great podcast, b . ~ weeks. thanks for a great podcast, b . . g ., �* weeks. thanks for a great podcast, by. welljulian, i've got a handy pocket-sized — by. welljulian, i've got a handy pocket-sized map _ by. welljulian, i've got a handy pocket-sized map here - by. welljulian, i've got a handy pocket-sized map here so - by. welljulian, i've got a handy pocket-sized map here so we . by. welljulian, i've got a handy i pocket-sized map here so we can pocket—sized map here so we can work it out. so he's going to malaysia. we've got it. it out. so he's going to malaysia. we've got it— it out. so he's going to malaysia. we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east _ we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east - _ we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east - not _ we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east - not as _ we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east - not as far _ we've got it. sean will be in japan. further east - not as far south, - we've got it. sean will be in japan. | further east - not as far south, may further east — not as far south, may be equidistant. further east - not as far south, may be equidistant-— further east - not as far south, may be equidistant._ japan, | be equidistant. where is it? japan, where stepanek_ be equidistant. where is it? japan, where stepanek was _ be equidistant. where is it? japan, where stepanek was yellow - be equidistant. where is it? japan, where stepanek was yellow i - be equidistant. where is it? japan, where stepanek was yellow i can . be equidistant. where is it? japan, i where stepanek was yellow i can see malaysia immediately. laura, without you in the studio, we are lost. this is a treat you in the studio, we are lost. this is a great future _ you in the studio, we are lost. this is a great future for _ you in the studio, we are lost. this is a great future for people who are only hearing it, so are you guys looking — only hearing it, so are you guys looking at — only hearing it, so are you guys looking at a big map? do we have pens? _ looking at a big map? do we have pens? we — looking at a big map? do we have ens? ~ ., , looking at a big map? do we have pens?—joe's i pens? we have my finger. joe's finer is pens? we have my finger. joe's finger is the _ pens? we have my finger. joe's finger is the pen. _ pens? we have my finger. joe's finger is the pen. justin - pens? we have my finger. joe's finger is the pen. justin will- pens? we have my finger. joe's finger is the pen. justin will be l pens? we have my finger. joe'sl finger is the pen. justin will be in somalia ——jo's finger is the pen. justin will be in somalia —— jo's finger. finger is the pen. justin will be in somalia -- jo's finger.— somalia -- jo's finger. while you cu s somalia -- jo's finger. while you au s do somalia -- jo's finger. while you guys do gcses — somalia -- jo's finger. while you guys do gcses geography, - somalia -- jo's finger. while you guys do gcses geography, i'll . somalia -- jo's finger. while you - guys do gcses geography, i'll plumb for remoter voter, just because i think— for remoter voter, just because i think that — for remoter voter, just because i think that sounds amazing. i quite like it. we will— think that sounds amazing. i quite like it. we will go _ think that sounds amazing. i quite like it. we will go for _ think that sounds amazing. i quite like it. we will go for remoter- like it. we will go for remoter voter, because _ like it. we will go for remoter voter, because it _ like it. we will go for remoter voter, because it sounds - voter, because it sounds motivational. that's all we've got because i've not got all the e—mails because i've not got all the e—mails because we have loads of them, hundreds of e—mails about this, those are just the highlights. sean injapan, julian and malaysia, in japan, julian and malaysia, justin injapan, julian and malaysia, justin in somalia. justin isjust in rowlett, our climate editor, who knows about this because his daughter listens to our podcast. what's the price for the furthest rernoter— what's the price for the furthest remoter voter?— what's the price for the furthest remoter voter? they can be one of the less people — remoter voter? they can be one of the less people that _ remoter voter? they can be one of the less people that anyone - remoter voter? they can be one of the less people that anyone hears| the less people that anyone hears before the election.— before the election. have you “ust made that up? i before the election. have you “ust made that up? yes. i before the election. have you “ust made that up? yes. shall i before the election. have you “ust made that up? yes. shall we h before the election. have you just l made that up? yes. shall we get on with it? let's _ made that up? yes. shall we get on with it? let's get _ made that up? yes. shall we get on with it? let's get on _ made that up? yes. shall we get on with it? let's get on with _ made that up? yes. shall we get on with it? let's get on with this - with it? let's get on with this e - isode with it? let's get on with this episode of— with it? let's get on with this episode of newscast. - with it? let's get on with this episode of newscast. this . with it? let's get on with this i episode of newscast. this is not like you geography skills programme. i could've gone to somalia and back by now _ i could've gone to somalia and back by now fin — i could've gone to somalia and back b now. ., , , , i could've gone to somalia and back b now. . , , , ., by now. on with a subset of newscast. newscast - by now. on with a subset of newscast. newscast from i by now. on with a subset of i newscast. newscast from the by now. on with a subset of - newscast. newscast from the bbc. by now. on with a subset of _ newscast. newscast from the bbc. -- on with this — newscast. newscast from the bbc. -- on with this episode _ newscast. newscast from the bbc. -- on with this episode of— newscast. newscast from the bbc. -- on with this episode of newscast. - on with this episode of newscast. hello, it's adam in the studio. it’s hello, it's adam in the studio. it's jo with him _ hello, it's adam in the studio. it�*s jo with him in the studio. hello, it's adam in the studio. it's jo with him in the studio. in - hello, it's adam in the studio. it's jo with him in the studio. in its . jo with him in the studio. in its laura in another _ jo with him in the studio. in its laura in another studio - jo with him in the studio. in its| laura in another studio without jo with him in the studio. in its laura in another studio without a map— laura in another studio without a map looking at a watch. if laura in another studio without a map looking at a watch.- laura in another studio without a map looking at a watch. if you want to net in map looking at a watch. if you want to get in contact _ map looking at a watch. if you want to get in contact about _ map looking at a watch. if you want to get in contact about remoter- to get in contact about remoter voter, the e—mail is... and just to reassure laura, everyone who's consuming this episode of newscast will be consuming it visually because this is on tv, and if you want to consume newscast hourly, with your ears, then you'll be doing a podcast available on bbc sounds on thursday night after the main party leaders have been on question time on bbc one, because we are recording this tv version before they've been on tv life, so they were live before us and be prerecorded afterward. if you weren't confused beforehand, you might be now. you weren't confused beforehand, you might be now-— might be now. laura, have you seen a sto two might be now. laura, have you seen a story two weeks _ might be now. laura, have you seen a story two weeks before _ might be now. laura, have you seen a story two weeks before election - might be now. laura, have you seen a story two weeks before election day l story two weeks before election day like the story that's emerged over the last few days about people related to the tory party, including some candidates, betting on the fact that the election would be on the 4th that the election would be on the lath ofjuly? that the election would be on the ltth ofjuly?— that the election would be on the lath ofjuly? ha. that's the end 4th ofjuly? no. that's the end of that. 4th ofjuly? no. that's the end of that- these _ 4th ofjuly? no. that's the end of that. these allegations _ 4th ofjuly? no. that's the end of that. these allegations are - that. these allegations are absolutely _ that. these allegations are absolutely mind-bogglingl that. these allegations are i absolutely mind-boggling and absolutely mind—boggling and astonishing, and extra ordinary, and all the _ astonishing, and extra ordinary, and all the rest, — astonishing, and extra ordinary, and all the rest, and what i ended up writing _ all the rest, and what i ended up writing out— all the rest, and what i ended up writing out today was, i've run out of adjectives. having done politics in this— of adjectives. having done politics in this country for some years, i've run out _ in this country for some years, i've run out of— in this country for some years, i've run out of adjectives. this story is something — run out of adjectives. this story is something that you could not make up. something that you could not make up some _ something that you could not make up. some conservative sources told to meet _ up. some conservative sources told to meet this afternoon, after all the risks— to meet this afternoon, after all the risks they had been scanning for, the risks they had been scanning for. this— the risks they had been scanning for, this was not something they could've — for, this was not something they could've ever thought of. and it was funny, _ could've ever thought of. and it was funny, i— could've ever thought of. and it was funny, i asked a different person, an old _ funny, i asked a different person, an old campaign hand if you like who iwas— an old campaign hand if you like who i was speaking to about it this morning. _ i was speaking to about it this morning. i_ i was speaking to about it this morning, i said," am i naive to morning, isaid," am i naive to think— morning, i said," am i naive to think this — morning, i said," am i naive to think this is _ morning, i said," am i naive to think this is kind of incredible, that— think this is kind of incredible, that the — think this is kind of incredible, that the tory director of campaigning and just make party candidates, and a police officer are all being _ candidates, and a police officer are all being looked into for allegedly having _ all being looked into for allegedly having put bets on the timing of the election?" _ having put bets on the timing of the election?" and they said, "no, you're — election?" and they said, "no, you're not. _ election?" and they said, "no, you're not. i_ election?" and they said, "no, you're not, i can't believe it either. _ you're not, i can't believe it either. i'm _ you're not, i can't believe it either, i'm100% you're not, i can't believe it either, i'm 100% gob smacked." so if you've _ either, i'm 100% gob smacked." so if you've lived _ either, i'm 100% gob smacked." so if you've lived under a rock, you've probably— you've lived under a rock, you've probably seen the story today — if you haven't — probably seen the story today — if you haven't seen the story, there are allegations that the tory director— are allegations that the tory director of campaigning and his wife, _ director of campaigning and his wife, who— director of campaigning and his wife, who is a candidate in this election. — wife, who is a candidate in this election, both put bets on the timing — election, both put bets on the timing of— election, both put bets on the timing of this election. he's taken a leave _ timing of this election. he's taken a leave of— timing of this election. he's taken a leave of absence, leaving the tories — a leave of absence, leaving the tories without the person who's been in charge _ tories without the person who's been in charge of— tories without the person who's been in charge of running their field operation. not the director of the whole _ operation. not the director of the whole campaign, isaac libido, australian elections guru orjames forsyth, _ australian elections guru orjames forsyth, the conservative prime minister's — forsyth, the conservative prime minister's political secretary, but the party— minister's political secretary, but the party senior staffer is out of the party senior staffer is out of the building on a leave of absence. with two— the building on a leave of absence. with two weeks to go, that his jaw on the _ with two weeks to go, that his jaw on the floor time. with two weeks to go, that his “aw on the floor time.�* on the floor time. yes, critically important. _ on the floor time. yes, critically important. i _ on the floor time. yes, critically important, i would _ on the floor time. yes, critically important, i would say, - on the floor time. yes, critically important, i would say, and - on the floor time. yes, critically i important, i would say, and there was already another conservative candidate that had, in answering questions, let's put it that way, whether or not he had insider information about a bet that had been placed. but let mejust information about a bet that had been placed. but let me just posit this from today's programme, politics life, early on, with sir charles walker, who is standing down at this election but has been campaigning and was a senior tory, part of what we call the 1922 committee of backbench conservative mps. his response was, "i thought it was interesting, let's put it that way," he said, "i don't want to diminish this but outside the constituency where this young woman is standing, it will not make a job's worth of difference to the general election result, it really won't. this is a good knock—about stuff, but on the lath ofjuly, nobody will change their vote on the back of this. they really aren't, that's not to diminish the importance of it today in the general election news cycle, but we are here to talk about really serious things." it wasn't the response i was expecting, we'd already heard from michael gove... let's hear what he had to say, which was a lot sterner stuff than what charles walker said to you. it was dee -l charles walker said to you. it was deeply regrettable, _ charles walker said to you. it was deeply regrettable, but _ charles walker said to you. it was deeply regrettable, but while - deeply regrettable, but while there's— deeply regrettable, but while there's a _ deeply regrettable, but while there's a investigation - deeply regrettable, but while there's a investigation going i deeply regrettable, but while i there's a investigation going on, i can't _ there's a investigation going on, i can't say— there's a investigation going on, i can't say anything _ there's a investigation going on, i can't say anything definitive. ii can't say anything definitive. i can tell you _ can't say anything definitive. i can tell you how— can't say anything definitive. i can tell you how unhappy— can't say anything definitive. i can tell you how unhappy i— can't say anything definitive. i can tell you how unhappy i am, i can't say anything definitive. i can tell you how unhappy i am, and ii tell you how unhappy i am, and i know— tell you how unhappy i am, and i know there — tell you how unhappy i am, and i know there are _ tell you how unhappy i am, and i know there are lots of— tell you how unhappy i am, and i| know there are lots of candidates out there — know there are lots of candidates out there who _ know there are lots of candidates out there who are _ know there are lots of candidates out there who are deeply - know there are lots of candidatesl out there who are deeply unhappy know there are lots of candidates i out there who are deeply unhappy at this. out there who are deeply unhappy at this and _ out there who are deeply unhappy at this and of— out there who are deeply unhappy at this. and of course, _ out there who are deeply unhappy at this. and of course, there'll- this. and of course, there'll members _ this. and of course, there'll members of— this. and of course, there'll members of the _ this. and of course, there'll members of the public i this. and of course, there'll. members of the public looking this. and of course, there'll- members of the public looking on with a _ members of the public looking on with a mixture _ members of the public looking on with a mixture of _ members of the public looking on with a mixture of surprise - members of the public looking on with a mixture of surprise and i with a mixture of surprise and consternation. _ with a mixture of surprise and consternation. but _ with a mixture of surprise and consternation. but there's i with a mixture of surprise and consternation. but there's a l with a mixture of surprise and i consternation. but there's a process and we _ consternation. but there's a process and we have — consternation. but there's a process and we have to _ consternation. but there's a process and we have to allow _ consternation. but there's a process and we have to allow that _ consternation. but there's a process and we have to allow that process . consternation. but there's a processj and we have to allow that process to conclude _ and we have to allow that process to conclude. ., ., , ,., ., conclude. now that is the sort of response l _ conclude. now that is the sort of response l was — conclude. now that is the sort of response i was expecting i conclude. now that is the sort of response i was expecting from . conclude. now that is the sort of| response i was expecting from sir charles walker. he gave a very different sort of perspective on it, if you like — but i can absolutely understand, having spoken to tory candidates who are out on the campaign trail, and i'm talking about 1's standing again, not newbies, whojust about 1's standing again, not newbies, who just can't believe it, in terms of the morale and the questions that they are already getting because of what the polls are saying, and the record, and so on, as laura said, this has come out of the blue in the middle of the campaign. so i can completely understand why understatement of the year, michael gove saying this is very unhelpful, and i can imagine candidates out on the road will be thinking, "i need this like a hole in the head." thinking, "i need this like a hole in the head-"— thinking, "i need this like a hole in the head.�* ., ., in the head." the other thing about it is it allows _ in the head." the other thing about it is it allows the _ in the head." the other thing about it is it allows the opposition i it is it allows the opposition parties _ it is it allows the opposition parties to immediately get out the megaphone and start shouting again about— megaphone and start shouting again about what they would say he has been _ about what they would say he has been years of tory misbehavior, years— been years of tory misbehavior, years of— been years of tory misbehavior, years of one rule for you, one rule for everybody else.— years of one rule for you, one rule i for everybody else._ and for everybody else. absolutely. and it allows them _ for everybody else. absolutely. and it allows them to _ for everybody else. absolutely. and it allows them to bring _ for everybody else. absolutely. and it allows them to bring back i for everybody else. absolutely. and it allows them to bring back all i it allows them to bring back all those — it allows them to bring back all those kinds of charges — again, whether— those kinds of charges — again, whether it's partygate, wasted cash over ppe, _ whether it's partygate, wasted cash over ppe, allegations about contracts for cronies — for the opposition— contracts for cronies — for the opposition parties, this is an absolute _ opposition parties, this is an absolute gift. don't forget, keir starmer— absolute gift. don't forget, keir starmer will be standing alongside rishi sunak tonight in the question time debate, john swinney and ed davey— time debate, john swinney and ed davey is _ time debate, john swinney and ed davey is there, it'll be at a moment when _ davey is there, it'll be at a moment when rishi — davey is there, it'll be at a moment when rishi sunak is in front of his rivals— when rishi sunak is in front of his rivals and — when rishi sunak is in front of his rivals and audience, and he already has so _ rivals and audience, and he already has so many— rivals and audience, and he already has so many things he can be attacked _ has so many things he can be attacked on from the conservatives's record _ attacked on from the conservatives's record and _ attacked on from the conservatives's record and things that have gone on durihg _ record and things that have gone on durihg the _ record and things that have gone on during the campaign. this isjust another— during the campaign. this isjust another one. so whether it shifts any individual votes, who knows? but does it— any individual votes, who knows? but does it make — any individual votes, who knows? but does it make a difference to morale in this— does it make a difference to morale in this campaign and an opportunity for labour? — in this campaign and an opportunity for labour? sure does. rishi in this campaign and an opportunity for labour? sure does.— for labour? sure does. rishi sunak personality — for labour? sure does. rishi sunak personality wise. — for labour? sure does. rishi sunak personality wise, his _ for labour? sure does. rishi sunak personality wise, his character i for labour? sure does. rishi sunak personality wise, his character and | personality wise, his character and people's view of him, he doesn't seem like a gambling kind of guy, it'll be an easy one for him... but this is the — it'll be an easy one for him... but this is the thing _ it'll be an easy one for him... but this is the thing — the police officer— this is the thing — the police officer is— this is the thing — the police officer is actually being investigated and has been arrested, so that's— investigated and has been arrested, so that's one thing. but you have two candidates who still, as things stand. _ two candidates who still, as things stand. as — two candidates who still, as things stand, as we record at 5:20pm on thursday— stand, as we record at 5:20pm on thursday afternoon, those candidates are still— thursday afternoon, those candidates are still seeking election, and sunak— are still seeking election, and sunak also stood outside downing street _ sunak also stood outside downing street and said, "i promise you the public— street and said, "i promise you the public the — street and said, "i promise you the public the high standards of accountability," he was meant to be the new_ accountability," he was meant to be the new broom after what people would _ the new broom after what people would say — the new broom after what people would say was the bad behaviour under— would say was the bad behaviour under borisjohnson. so would say was the bad behaviour under boris johnson. so there will be tough — under boris johnson. so there will be tough questions for him about why these _ be tough questions for him about why these candidates should still be allowed — these candidates should still be allowed to stand. i'm not expressing allowed to stand. i'm not expressing a view— allowed to stand. i'm not expressing a view over— allowed to stand. i'm not expressing a view over whether they should be or not. _ a view over whether they should be or not. of— a view over whether they should be or not, of course, but these are seen _ or not, of course, but these are seen by— or not, of course, but these are seen by people in the conservative party— seen by people in the conservative party as _ seen by people in the conservative party as big, serious mood adjustments to have made. —— misjudgments. adjustments to have made. -- misjudgments.— adjustments to have made. -- mis'uduments. ., ., , misjudgments. one candidate raise the issue about _ misjudgments. one candidate raise the issue about whether _ misjudgments. one candidate raise the issue about whether or i misjudgments. one candidate raise the issue about whether or rishi i the issue about whether or rishi sunak comes across or appears to be a betting man... ithink they sunak comes across or appears to be a betting man... i think they shook hand on it, and then, it was slightly embarrassing because it became a thing, and there was also a little bit of historic, and terms of recording or broadcasting of him talking about test match special — have i got the programme right? in the past, he said, "i'm not really a betting man," but he had been interested... edi betting man," but he had been interested. . ._ betting man," but he had been interested... ., ., , , interested... of fallen for the spin that rick rishi — interested. .. of fallen for the spin that rick rishi sunak— interested... of fallen for the spin that rick rishi sunak is _ interested... of fallen for the spin that rick rishi sunak is mr i interested... of fallen for the spin that rick rishi sunak is mr whiterl that rick rishi sunak is mr whiter than white. let's have a listen to how keir starmer reacted to that, but you can guess how he reacted. this candidate should be suspended, and its— this candidate should be suspended, and it's very— this candidate should be suspended, and it's very telling _ this candidate should be suspended, and it's very telling that _ this candidate should be suspended, and it's very telling that rishi - and it's very telling that rishi sunak— and it's very telling that rishi sunak has— and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not— and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not already - and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not already done i and it's very telling that rishi i sunak has not already done that. if it was— sunak has not already done that. if it was one — sunak has not already done that. if it was one of— sunak has not already done that. if it was one of my— sunak has not already done that. if it was one of my candidates, i sunak has not already done that. if it was one of my candidates, theirl it was one of my candidates, their feet would — it was one of my candidates, their feet would not— it was one of my candidates, their feet would not of— it was one of my candidates, their feet would not of touched - it was one of my candidates, their feet would not of touched on i feet would not of touched on the floor~ _ feet would not of touched on the floor~ there _ feet would not of touched on the floor. there is— feet would not of touched on the floor. there is a _ feet would not of touched on the floor. there is a wider— feet would not of touched on the j floor. there is a wider point here that you — floor. there is a wider point here that you touch _ floor. there is a wider point here that you touch on, _ floor. there is a wider point here that you touch on, which - floor. there is a wider point here that you touch on, which is i floor. there is a wider point here that you touch on, which is now. floor. there is a wider point here . that you touch on, which is now we have _ that you touch on, which is now we have 14 _ that you touch on, which is now we have 14 years — that you touch on, which is now we have 14 years of— that you touch on, which is now we have 14 years of chaos, _ that you touch on, which is now we have 14 years of chaos, division i that you touch on, which is now we have 14 years of chaos, division of| have 14 years of chaos, division of politics. _ have14 years of chaos, division of politics. of— have 14 years of chaos, division of politics, of self _ have 14 years of chaos, division of politics, of self entitlement i have 14 years of chaos, division of politics, of self entitlement — i politics, of self entitlement — politics — politics, of self entitlement — politics needs _ politics, of self entitlement — politics needs to _ politics, of self entitlement — politics needs to be - politics needs to be about public service — politics needs to be about public service. �* , , ., service. and ed davey, the liberal democrat leader, _ service. and ed davey, the liberal democrat leader, also _ service. and ed davey, the liberal democrat leader, also called i service. and ed davey, the liberal democrat leader, also called for l democrat leader, also called for laura saunders, the candidate at the centre of the latest claims, to be suspended. then we had a statement from solicitors claiming to act for laura saunders, saying... of "she will be cooperating with the gambling commission and nothing further to add. it is inappropriate to be... itjeopardises the work of the gambling commission and the integrity of its investigation. the publication of the bbc�*s story is premature in a clear and french and of her privacy rights. she's considering legal action against the bbc and any publishers who infringe upon her privacy rights." that's that, now nigel farage was in action this week launching not reform's manifesto, but it's contract with the british people, because nigel farage thinks the manifesto is associated in most people's heads with lying, not telling the truth. and that symbolises what they're trying _ and that symbolises what they're trying to — and that symbolises what they're trying to do here, to present themselves as a completely alternative for us, as a group of people — alternative for us, as a group of people telling the public what many of the _ people telling the public what many of the public might believe, which is not _ of the public might believe, which is not all— of the public might believe, which is not all politicians are out for themselves, no politicians are really — themselves, no politicians are really interested in what the public's _ really interested in what the public's real concerns are. as you might— public's real concerns are. as you might expect, their big promises there _ might expect, their big promises there on— might expect, their big promises there on immigration — he said a freeze _ there on immigration — he said a freeze on — there on immigration — he said a freeze on all nonessential immigration, they said they would take people from small boats back to france _ take people from small boats back to france. when you press for details about— france. when you press for details about how— france. when you press for details about how those promises might be enacted. _ about how those promises might be enacted, what they really mean, the answers— enacted, what they really mean, the answers get a bit less clear than that _ answers get a bit less clear than that but — answers get a bit less clear than that. but there are big promises of tax cuts _ that. but there are big promises of tax cuts - — that. but there are big promises of tax cuts - so— that. but there are big promises of tax cuts — so if you like, these are exactly _ tax cuts — so if you like, these are exactly the — tax cuts — so if you like, these are exactly the kinds of ideas being put forward _ exactly the kinds of ideas being put forward in — exactly the kinds of ideas being put forward in that contract, as you say, _ forward in that contract, as you say, that— forward in that contract, as you say, that match up to what nigel farage _ say, that match up to what nigel farage is — say, that match up to what nigel farage is trying to say to the public, — farage is trying to say to the public, particularly to disaffected conservative voters, that the tories have let _ conservative voters, that the tories have let you — conservative voters, that the tories have let you down, they haven't been proper _ have let you down, they haven't been proper conservatives, blue and red, tooth— proper conservatives, blue and red, tooth and _ proper conservatives, blue and red, tooth and claw, they've been phoney tories, _ tooth and claw, they've been phoney tories, too _ tooth and claw, they've been phoney tories, too much of the mushy middle. — tories, too much of the mushy middle, and here are the policies that are — middle, and here are the policies that are strong enough to deal with the country's problems you'd expect. that said. _ the country's problems you'd expect. that said, there are big problems with other— that said, there are big problems with other or not they are deliverable, and i thought it was interesting that he almost admitted, to colleagues asking him at press conferences, these are things he believes— conferences, these are things he believes he will campaign for if they manage to get mps in parliament, ratherthan him they manage to get mps in parliament, rather than him claiming these _ parliament, rather than him claiming these are _ parliament, rather than him claiming these are things he could actually deliver— these are things he could actually deliver overnight.— deliver overnight. exactly, it's a not the prospective _ deliver overnight. exactly, it's a | not the prospective government, deliver overnight. exactly, it's a i not the prospective government, and it was presented as a contract. but there were two things that struck me about the presentation, if you like it, tojournalists — first about the presentation, if you like it, to journalists — first of all, nigel farage, and one of these debates in the campaign, talked about a social insurance model like france for funding the health service, because he used the word, "the funding formula is wrong," the funding of the nhs is broken — he said we should look to france. and as the clue is in the title, it's an insurance system. you pay upfront and claim it back there is a insurance scheme, and there are various levels. but on the day of the contract being announced and published, we interviewed doctor david boll, who i think is a deputy leader of reform, and he said, "that isn't in the contract, the funding formula for nhs will stay exactly the same for now." i think he said a sort of "for now," not in a sinister way, but this is not a prospective for government. so nigel farage perhaps in the debate was going a stage further, because we now know what he's talking about is the election after this one in the future. and on immigration, particularly on what we call it illegal immigration, though small boats, on that day, we had the former and short—lived finance minister from greece during the time post the financial crash, and it was the day greek coastguard had been accused because of a bbc programme of manslaughter. that was rejected by the coastguard because of push backs, what they call push backs in the sea of those small boats. we put it to david boll, "is that something you support in reform was my" he said, "push backs are absolutely fine, and there was a row about it," clearly because some people on the panel felt it was illegal, you do that and people drowned. there were two interesting parts of their contract under scrutiny. fiend two interesting parts of their contract under scrutiny. and one of the other bits _ contract under scrutiny. and one of the other bits of _ contract under scrutiny. and one of the other bits of the _ contract under scrutiny. and one of the other bits of the contract i contract under scrutiny. and one of the other bits of the contract that i the other bits of the contract that farage presented was the government saving loads of money, like £50 billion worth of money from efficiency savings, and frost made the point that businesses could do that when all the time, and he was quizzed on this by alex forsyth who was there at launch.— was there at launch. you accuse other parties — was there at launch. you accuse other parties of _ was there at launch. you accuse other parties of broken - was there at launch. you accuse i other parties of broken promises, but isn't _ other parties of broken promises, but isn't this really a list of unrealistic promises, a wish list rather— unrealistic promises, a wish list rather than _ unrealistic promises, a wish list rather than a serious plan? it is a romise, rather than a serious plan? it is a promise. this _ rather than a serious plan? it is a promise, this is _ rather than a serious plan? it is a promise, this is what we - rather than a serious plan? it is a promise, this is what we will i promise, this is what we will campaign _ promise, this is what we will campaign for— promise, this is what we will campaign for over— promise, this is what we will campaign for overthe- promise, this is what we will| campaign for over the course promise, this is what we will. campaign for over the course of promise, this is what we will- campaign for over the course of the next five _ campaign for over the course of the next five years _ campaign for over the course of the next five years. i _ campaign for over the course of the next five years. i sit _ campaign for over the course of the next five years. i sit at _ campaign for over the course of the next five years. i sit at the - next five years. i sit at the very start, _ next five years. i sit at the very start, we — next five years. i sit at the very start, we will— next five years. i sit at the very start, we will not _ next five years. i sit at the very start, we will not be _ next five years. i sit at the very start, we will not be a - next five years. i sit at the very. start, we will not be a government this time, — start, we will not be a government this time, but— start, we will not be a government this time, but we _ start, we will not be a government this time, but we will— start, we will not be a government this time, but we will provide i start, we will not be a government this time, but we will provide a - this time, but we will provide a voice _ this time, but we will provide a voice of— this time, but we will provide a voice of opposition. _ this time, but we will provide a voice of opposition. i’ll- this time, but we will provide a voice of opposition.— this time, but we will provide a voice of opposition. i'll make an incredibly nerdy _ voice of opposition. i'll make an incredibly nerdy point _ voice of opposition. i'll make an incredibly nerdy point about - voice of opposition. i'll make an incredibly nerdy point about the i incredibly nerdy point about the contract — they've pinpointed this thing where, when banks are obliged to hold money at the bank of england, and the bank of england is obliged to pay them interest on those reserves, and some countries and central banks don't do that, and nigel farage and his pals say if you stop doing that, that would be free money. i stop doing that, that would be free mone . t, y stop doing that, that would be free mone . t, , t, money. i thought they said to the tune of about _ money. i thought they said to the tune of about £35 _ money. i thought they said to the tune of about £35 billion, - money. i thought they said to the tune of about £35 billion, which l tune of about £35 billion, which was contested anyway. find tune of about £35 billion, which was contested anyway.— contested anyway. and there's this other technical _ contested anyway. and there's this other technical thing _ contested anyway. and there's this other technical thing going - contested anyway. and there's this other technical thing going on - contested anyway. and there's this other technical thing going on with| other technical thing going on with the bank of england where the treasury pays them interest because they are now doing the opposite of quantitive easing, which they did during the financial crisis, and i just wonder, maybe a future transfer will be looking at those ideas and thinking, "free money," one will be looking at those ideas and thinking, "free money,"- will be looking at those ideas and thinking, "free money," one of our viewers, thinking, "free money," one of our viewers. but _ thinking, "free money," one of our viewers, but somebody _ thinking, "free money," one of our viewers, but somebody who - thinking, "free money," one of our viewers, but somebody who runs . thinking, "free money," one of our viewers, but somebody who runs a | viewers, but somebody who runs a micro—business that we interviewed said that for small businesses like hers, some of the stuff in that reform contract was interested, and they were looking at things like vat thresholds, which would make a big difference. , ., �* thresholds, which would make a big difference. , . �* ., difference. sorry, that wasn't a manifesto. _ difference. sorry, that wasn't a manifesto, that _ difference. sorry, that wasn't a manifesto, that was _ difference. sorry, that wasn't a manifesto, that was a - difference. sorry, that wasn't a | manifesto, that was a contract. difference. sorry, that wasn't a - manifesto, that was a contract. he used the umbrella term! exactly, i used the umbrella term! exactly, i'll do it used the umbrella term! exactly, “1 do it in _ used the umbrella term! exactly, i'll do it in air— used the umbrella term! exactly, i'll do it in air quotes, _ used the umbrella term! exactly, i'll do it in air quotes, which - used the umbrella term! exactly, i'll do it in air quotes, which you | i'll do it in air quotes, which you can't see, laura. we got a manifesto from the snp, they launch that in edinburgh. laura, give us your take on that. ~ .. .. . edinburgh. laura, give us your take on that. ~ .. .,, , edinburgh. laura, give us your take on that. . ., .,, , , on that. what was very interesting is it's no secret _ on that. what was very interesting is it's no secret the _ on that. what was very interesting is it's no secret the snp _ on that. what was very interesting is it's no secret the snp overall. is it's no secret the snp overall have _ is it's no secret the snp overall have ilee“— is it's no secret the snp overall have been in a lot of trouble, and because _ have been in a lot of trouble, and because they've been in trouble, they've _ because they've been in trouble, they've been able to talk less about independence, which of course as their— independence, which of course as their rallying cry, why most members are attracted to the party. it's the reason _ are attracted to the party. it's the reason why— are attracted to the party. it's the reason why some voters have backed them _ reason why some voters have backed them over— reason why some voters have backed them over the years, but not exclusively so. it was interesting thatjohn — exclusively so. it was interesting thatjohn swinney, along exclusively so. it was interesting that john swinney, along with things like we _ that john swinney, along with things like we want more public spending, people _ like we want more public spending, people should pay more tax, he decided — people should pay more tax, he decided to put independence back up at the _ decided to put independence back up at the top _ decided to put independence back up at the top of the list. now of course, _ at the top of the list. now of course, it's not surprising the snp have _ course, it's not surprising the snp have got— course, it's not surprising the snp have got independence and a party manifesto. however, it is a change of tack— manifesto. however, it is a change of tack to— manifesto. however, it is a change of tack to make it so prominent again. — of tack to make it so prominent again. and _ of tack to make it so prominent again, and essentially what he was saying _ again, and essentially what he was saying on— again, and essentially what he was saying on that was, "if the snp still has — saying on that was, "if the snp still has a — saying on that was, "if the snp still has a majority of mps in scotland _ still has a majority of mps in scotland after the general election," which they do overwhelmingly at the moment, he will see _ overwhelmingly at the moment, he will see that they still have a mandate _ will see that they still have a mandate for independence and to have another _ mandate for independence and to have another independence referendum. if another independence referendum. if the another independence referendum. the snp another independence referendum. if the snp wins a majority of seats in this election — the snp wins a majority of seats in this election in _ the snp wins a majority of seats in this election in scotland, - the snp wins a majority of seats in this election in scotland, the - this election in scotland, the scottish— this election in scotland, the scottish government - this election in scotland, the scottish government will - this election in scotland, the - scottish government will embark on negotiations— scottish government will embark on negotiations with _ scottish government will embark on negotiations with the _ scottish government will embark on negotiations with the uk _ scottish government will embark on i negotiations with the uk government to turn— negotiations with the uk government to turn the _ negotiations with the uk government to turn the democratic— negotiations with the uk government to turn the democratic wishes - negotiations with the uk government to turn the democratic wishes of- negotiations with the uk government to turn the democratic wishes of the i to turn the democratic wishes of the people _ to turn the democratic wishes of the people of— to turn the democratic wishes of the people of scotland _ to turn the democratic wishes of the people of scotland into _ to turn the democratic wishes of the people of scotland into a _ to turn the democratic wishes of the people of scotland into a reality. - people of scotland into a reality. the very— people of scotland into a reality. the very heart _ people of scotland into a reality. the very heart of— people of scotland into a reality. the very heart of our— people of scotland into a reality. the very heart of our beliefs - people of scotland into a reality. the very heart of our beliefs is l people of scotland into a reality. i the very heart of our beliefs is the principle _ the very heart of our beliefs is the principle that _ the very heart of our beliefs is the principle that decisions _ the very heart of our beliefs is the principle that decisions about - principle that decisions about scotland _ principle that decisions about scotland should _ principle that decisions about scotland should be _ principle that decisions about scotland should be made - principle that decisions about scotland should be made by. principle that decisions about. scotland should be made by the people — scotland should be made by the people who _ scotland should be made by the people who live _ scotland should be made by the people who live in _ scotland should be made by the people who live in scotland. - scotland should be made by thei people who live in scotland. new scotland should be made by the people who live in scotland. now the wa the people who live in scotland. now the way the polls — people who live in scotland. now the way the polls are _ people who live in scotland. now the way the polls are at _ people who live in scotland. now the way the polls are at the _ people who live in scotland. now the way the polls are at the moment, - way the polls are at the moment, which _ way the polls are at the moment, which is _ way the polls are at the moment, which is in — way the polls are at the moment, which is in the main thing, but it's important — which is in the main thing, but it's important for context, suggests the snp witt— important for context, suggests the snp will drop a lot of seats in scotland, and therefore they would be a scotland, and therefore they would he a week— scotland, and therefore they would be a week and a political force. but the test _ be a week and a political force. but the test thatjohn be a week and a political force. but the test that john swinney is sitting — the test that john swinney is sitting out, "look, if we have a majority. — sitting out, "look, if we have a majority, we will keep having this conversation," even though he knows prime _ conversation," even though he knows prime minister —— keir starmer and rishi _ prime minister —— keir starmer and rishi sunak— prime minister —— keir starmer and rishi sunak are not interested at all in _ rishi sunak are not interested at all in terms of granting scotland and other— all in terms of granting scotland and other vote on independence. thats— and other vote on independence. that's interesting to me that he's put that's interesting to me that he's out that— that's interesting to me that he's out that at— that's interesting to me that he's put that at the four of the discussion when in recent times, the snp has _ discussion when in recent times, the snp has really tried to edge away from that — snp has really tried to edge away from that. they would deny that, they would say it's always been there. — they would say it's always been there. but— they would say it's always been there, but that was always interesting that he put it so prominently. it�*s interesting that he put it so prominently-— interesting that he put it so prominently. interesting that he put it so rominentl. �*, ., . ., ., prominently. it's a change of tack, there's no — prominently. it's a change of tack, there's no doubt _ prominently. it's a change of tack, there's no doubt about _ prominently. it's a change of tack, there's no doubt about it. - prominently. it's a change of tack, there's no doubt about it. and - there's no doubt about it. and actually, one of the other things that was made very prominent byjohn swinney was this idea of protecting the nhs. i swinney was this idea of protecting the nhs. 4' , the nhs. i think the truth is also, it's the the nhs. i think the truth is also, its the kind _ the nhs. i think the truth is also, it's the kind of _ the nhs. i think the truth is also, it's the kind of thing _ the nhs. i think the truth is also, it's the kind of thing that - the nhs. i think the truth is also, it's the kind of thing that works . it's the kind of thing that works well for— it's the kind of thing that works well for voters on the left. jeremy corhyn _ well for voters on the left. jeremy corhyn did — well for voters on the left. jeremy corbyn did it into a19 because it works— corbyn did it into a19 because it works well— corbyn did it into a19 because it works well to rally voters on the left, _ works well to rally voters on the left, and — works well to rally voters on the left, and that suspicion on the left has been — left, and that suspicion on the left has been there for as long as i can remember— has been there for as long as i can remember that there's a secret plan either— remember that there's a secret plan either by— remember that there's a secret plan either by playwrights or conservatives to sell off the nhs —— did in— conservatives to sell off the nhs —— did in 2019 — conservatives to sell off the nhs —— did in 2019. and that there is up an image _ did in 2019. and that there is up an image we _ did in 2019. and that there is up an image we would all have to hand over our money— image we would all have to hand over our money to some big giant health corporation using the private sector getting _ corporation using the private sector getting the waiting list down, for example. — getting the waiting list down, for example, which already happens, it's not something that matches up that sense _ not something that matches up that sense of— not something that matches up that sense of privatisation. but it's also _ sense of privatisation. but it's also the — sense of privatisation. but it's also the kind of thing the snp is doing _ also the kind of thing the snp is doing in— also the kind of thing the snp is doing in various different parts of its manifesto to appeal to people on the left _ its manifesto to appeal to people on the left. so whether they are on the left in _ the left. so whether they are on the left in terms of labour, over gaza, for example. — left in terms of labour, over gaza, for example, they are on the left in terms _ for example, they are on the left in terms of— for example, they are on the left in terms of labour in terms of all sorts— terms of labour in terms of all sorts of— terms of labour in terms of all sorts of things — they are pitching themselves, as are the lib dems, as are the _ themselves, as are the lib dems, as are the greens, of being a kind of force _ are the greens, of being a kind of force for— are the greens, of being a kind of force for essentially trying to keep pushing _ force for essentially trying to keep pushing a — force for essentially trying to keep pushing a hypothetical keir starmer government with a big majority to the left _ government with a big majority to the left. and i think that's one of the left. and i think that's one of the realty— the left. and i think that's one of the really interesting things about this whole campaign — essentially apart— this whole campaign — essentially apart from — this whole campaign — essentially apart from reform and the tories, all the _ apart from reform and the tories, all the other parties, apart from labour, — all the other parties, apart from labour, or— all the other parties, apart from labour, or saying, "we will be the people _ labour, or saying, "we will be the people to — labour, or saying, "we will be the people to keep keir starmer honest and may— people to keep keir starmer honest and may can be a proper leaper prime minister— and may can be a proper leaper prime minister if— and may can be a proper leaper prime minister if the polls turn out to be right," _ minister if the polls turn out to be right," so— minister if the polls turn out to be right," so there is a field that all are trying — right," so there is a field that all are trying to do the same trick —— and keep— are trying to do the same trick —— and keep him just make are trying to do the same trick —— and keep himjust make him be a proper— and keep himjust make him be a proper labour prime minister. i'm generalising before the newscasters, you're _ generalising before the newscasters, you're a _ generalising before the newscasters, you're a clever bunch, probably speaking, — you're a clever bunch, probably speaking, the compass is a little bit to— speaking, the compass is a little bit to the — speaking, the compass is a little bit to the left of politics in england, so it's natural for the snp in this— england, so it's natural for the snp in this day— england, so it's natural for the snp in this day and age to want to come at labour— in this day and age to want to come at labour from the left and try to say that — at labour from the left and try to say that they are the ones who are anti—austerity, not the labour party. — anti—austerity, not the labour party. to _ anti—austerity, not the labour party, to try to say that they are the ones — party, to try to say that they are the ones willing to stand up for people — the ones willing to stand up for people in— the ones willing to stand up for people in gaza, for example, and that they— people in gaza, for example, and that they are the ones who, on the point _ that they are the ones who, on the point you _ that they are the ones who, on the point you raise about nhs privatisation, are really the ones who could — privatisation, are really the ones who could be the saviours of the nhs - even— who could be the saviours of the nhs — even though health is devolved, so for the _ — even though health is devolved, so for the snp _ — even though health is devolved, so for the snp to try to get votes for accusing labour of doing something to the _ accusing labour of doing something to the nhs and england hypothetically is one of the mind—bending things about election campaigns. that mind-bending things about election camaians. . . , mind-bending things about election camaians. .. . , ., , campaigns. that leaves me neatly onto a plug _ campaigns. that leaves me neatly onto a plug for — campaigns. that leaves me neatly onto a plug for newscast, - campaigns. that leaves me neatly onto a plug for newscast, i've - campaigns. that leaves me neatly. onto a plug for newscast, i've been recording profiles on the party leaders, the box that is now available on bbc sounds, they are really fun. —— box set. i pride myself on being a biographical geek but even i 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who i think it is? because i'm pretty sure... hang on a minute, ijust want to do a little check here, because i... i'm kind of blushing at this because... i'm actually lost for words here, and i'm doing a little check. yes, it is! unbelievable! shania twain! lett this is unbelievable! as the message started, i thought, "hang on a minute," is there something going on here in the air of fake videos and ai, and all the rest of it? so i wanted to be certain, and ijust checked, and it is. oh blimey, this is like a collection moment, it? that does impress me much! he was starstruck by — that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the _ that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the idea! _ that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the idea! i _ that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the idea! i want - that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the idea! i want to - that does impress me much! he was starstruck by the idea! i want to be l starstruck by the idea! i want to be a fly on the wallman mason takes shania twain to downing street. chris takes shania twain to downing street and makes her stand for six hours in the rain live secular or saying, ratherthan hours in the rain live secular or saying, rather than "things can only get better gall, perhaps she can sing something. thank you very much to call in patterson and shania twain for that, you can see the full interview on bbc breakfast on 26 june. laura? j interview on bbc breakfast on 26 june- laura?— interview on bbc breakfast on 26 june. laura? i don't know what to sa ! i june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't _ june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't seen _ june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't seen this, - june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't seen this, so - june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't seen this, so i - june. laura? i don't know what to say! i haven't seen this, so i only| say! i haven't seen this, so i only heard in— say! i haven't seen this, so i only heard in my— say! i haven't seen this, so i only heard in my ear, but hearing it in my ear. — heard in my ear, but hearing it in my ear. i— heard in my ear, but hearing it in my ear. hust— heard in my ear, but hearing it in my ear, ijust thought the best thing _ my ear, ijust thought the best thing is — my ear, ijust thought the best thing is he wasn't sure it was her! picture _ thing is he wasn't sure it was her! picture the — thing is he wasn't sure it was her! picture the scene, think about in the old days, laura, writing the editor's blog, who's calling me? all i'm saying is, taylor swift is in the uk at the moment, so if you wanted to raise the bar for me the uk at the moment, so if you wanted to raise the barfor me — i don't work as hard as chris, i don't deserve it. don't work as hard as chris, i don't deserve it— deserve it. are you asking me if i can arrange _ deserve it. are you asking me if i can arrange that? _ deserve it. are you asking me if i can arrange that? laura, - deserve it. are you asking me if i can arrange that? laura, great i deserve it. are you asking me if i j can arrange that? laura, great to hanu out can arrange that? laura, great to hang out with — can arrange that? laura, great to hang out with you, _ can arrange that? laura, great to hang out with you, see _ can arrange that? laura, great to hang out with you, see you - can arrange that? laura, great to hang out with you, see you soon. always, see you soon. find hang out with you, see you soon. always, see you soon.— hang out with you, see you soon. always, see you soon. and jo, thanks for -o- -|n~ always, see you soon. and jo, thanks for popping into _ always, see you soon. and jo, thanks for popping into the — always, see you soon. and jo, thanks for popping into the studio _ always, see you soon. and jo, thanks for popping into the studio from - for popping into the studio from your studio. for popping into the studio from your studio-— for popping into the studio from our studio. ., �* , .., your studio. you're very welcome, i've your studio. you're very welcome, we learned _ your studio. you're very welcome, i've learned of— your studio. you're very welcome, i've learned of the _ your studio. you're very welcome, i've learned of the quickest - your studio. you're very welcome, i've learned of the quickest route. | i've learned of the quickest route. and there'll be another newscast coming your way soon, bye—bye. newscast from the bbc. welcome to newsday, reporting live from singapore, i'm arunoday mukharji. lets get you the headlines.. legendary canadian actor donald sutherland dies at the age of 88 russian president vladimir putin says he won't rule out supplying weapons to north korea — during an asia visit which included stops in pyongyang and vietnam. extreme heat, storms and wildfires are affecting millions of people around the world — including asia, the us and the middle east. and the longest day of the year is upon us — the summer solstice being marked across the northern hemisphere. you're watching bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in the uk and around the world. beginning with news that came in thursday evening. the legendary hollywood actor donald sutherland has died at the age of 88. in a career which spanned six decades he became one of the most recognisable and most respected actors in hollywood. his son, the actor kiefer sutherland, announced his death calling him one of the most important actors in the history of film. ourarts and media correspondent david sillito