Two against one. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in
washington. President obama doesnt like donald trump. If you didnt know that yesterday, you know it today. The president launched a blistering take down of trump condemning his rhetoric and his proposed muslim ban. Trump is on stage and talking about the orlando massacre and responding to what president obama said about him today. Lets listen to trump. Again, north carolina, special place. We went through a weekend, the likes of which we should never have to see again. I wrote a few things down that i want to read because we cant let this happen anymore. We cant. We have to be so tough. We have to be so strong. We have to be so vigilant. We cant be led by weak, ineffective people. We cant. Theyre weak and ineffective. Believe me, Hillary Clinton, weak, ineffective. You listen to her, i dont know
if you know, she has 550 more people she wants to come in than obama from a certain area. We just dont know whats going on. We dont know who they are. Where theyre coming from. Theres no documentation. I just left a great governor, including pat, your governor. Hes doing a fantastic job. I just left a whole group of governors and they say these people are being put in their communities. They dont even know who they are. They dont know where they are being put. They are snuck into certain communities and governors dont know who is coming in. What a mess we have. What a mess we have. I just wrote some of this down. We got to do it. Normally, i talk about jobs,
which nobody can compete with us on jobs. Were going to bring them back from all these countries that have ripped us off like nobody has ever been ripped off before. Were going to bring our jobs back. Guess what, were not going to let our companies leave anymore. Theres going to be a little bit of a repercussion when they start to lee. Theres going to be repercussions. As we all know in orlando, over the weekend, a radical islamic terrorist killed 49 people, at least and wounded donzs more, doze dozens. It was the worst terrorist attack since september 11 and the worst mass shooting in our countrys history. We want to live if a country where gay and lesbian americans and all americans are safe from radical islam. [ cheers and applause ] which, by the way, wants to murder and has murdered gays and they enslave women. Hillary clinton talks about women, and she talks about how shes going to do. She plays the woman card more than any human being ive ever seen in my life. Frankly, i dont even think women like her from everything i see. Shes taken 25 million from certain countries and much more than that when you add it up. That treat women horrendously, that kill gays. You know what will happen, folks, lets call for hillary and bill clinton to give back the 25 plus Million Dollars to the countries that were talking
about. [ cheers and applause ] usa, usa, usa, usa the killers parents immigrated from afghanistan as the Washington Times reported. The children of muslim immigrant parents. Theyre responsible for a growing number for whatever reason, a growing number of terrorist attacks. Were not talking anything else. Weve seen that Political Correctness is deadly. They dont want to talk about the problem. I watched president obama today and he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter and many people said that. One of the folks on television said has trump gotten under his skin. He was more angry and a lot of people have said this. The level of anger, thats the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldnt be here. Now there are reports that the wife knew about the attack. The second wife. Knew about the attack but may have not told the authorities, nobody really knows. Her family reportedly is from afghanistan. According to pugh, 99 of the people in afghanistan support oppressive sharia law. Immigration from afghanistan has increased fivefold. We dont know what were doing, folks. Every year we bring in more than 100,000 lifetime immigrants from the middle east and many more from muslim countries outside of the middle east. A number of these immigrants have hostile attitudes. Look at this one whack. This one horrible savage. Look what he did in a short period of time to great, young people. Look what he did and look at the
carnage and devastation and destroyed families that hes caused. Theyre hostile. If youre not with them, its like forget it. Hillary clintons immigration plan would bring in millions of unvetted immigrants or very poorly vetted. How can you vet somebody when you have no idea where they come from, you have no idea about the paper work. Frankly, they have better passports than we do because they stole our passport machines. How that happened is pretty amazing. Including those who hate gays, women, jews, everybody. Thats donald trump in north carolina. Lets listen to president obamas blistering takedown of trump earlier today. The president strongly condemning trumps rhetoric and proposed muslim ban. If we fall into the trap of painting of all muslims with a broad brush and imply were at war with an entire religion, then were going the terrorists work for them. We now have proposals from the Presumptive Republican nominee for president of the United States to bar all muslims from immigrating to america. We hear language that singles out immigrants and suggest entire religious communities are complicit in violence. Where does this stop . Do republican officials actually agree with this . Thats not the america we want. We dont have religious tests
here. Our founders, our constitution, our bill of rights are clear about that. If we ever abandon those values, we would not only make it a lot easier to radicalize people here and around the world, but we would have betrayed the very things were trying to protect. Im joined by conservative radio host and nbc political analyst, hugh hewitt. Thank you for joining us. The big decision of the president to jump into this fight. Its now two on one. The president must see some opening on the issue of the muslim ban in the aftermath of the orlando horror. He still must think that most americans will rally to a side that says lets not discriminate
on religion even in this environment. I think its a disaster for the president to have done this. Not only are people in Critical Care and wounded by the terrorist, the actual talk that i thought out when the president attacked donald trump today comes in threefold is his leading from behind comments in august 2011 is red lined the next year and most obviously the j. D. s talk from august of 2014. Thats the dangerous mind set that they are not dangerous. We dont have to be alert. We dont have to be aware and you look at his Foreign Policy whether its the disaster in libya to create a second isis what about the ban, the muslim bin. Thats the line he wants to fight on. He wants to talk about strong men. He wants to talk about bans that donald trump is not pushing as
of monday. I think when he brings up this, they will remember red lines and leading from behind. Thats ha what he opened up tod. I think the president saw an opportunity here. I think the president must believe he can run on this line. The president did a version of what george w. Bush did after september 11. Also by focusing this on the semantics, it puts it on republicans to explain in terms of policy, what would you do differently because we are having this debate about se manma
semantics. Now the republicans have to explain what they would do differently. Even paul ryans plan today, its nickel and dime stuff. Its not materially different than a lot of stuff that the president s already doing and that Hillary Clinton is also talking about in her detailed plan. Just to get this straight, if the fight is over the ban, hugh, who wins . Down to immigration policy, it relates to terrorism, who wins . The people who say hes widening it to a geographic target. The more theyre talking about the war gagainst isis, republicans win because this president who did i have on in the last hour . I didnt have anybody on. He had joby. All right. Fine. Now about geography is a cute way of getting around the question. The places hes talking about putting ban on is muslim countries. Were going to say all the places they come from in the world will be banned. Its not much of a theres no real change. At least you can tell where they are coming from because its their passport. You cant tell their religion unless they tell you. Paul ryan echoes trumps critics speaking out against his proposed muslim ban. The vast, vast majority of muslims in this country and around the world, are moderate. Theyre peaceful. Theyre tolerant. And, so, theyre among our best allies. I do not think a muslim ban is in our countrys interest. I do not think its reflective of our principles. Not just as a party but a
country. The smarter way to go is have a security test and not a religious test. Security test. Bob corker of tennessee who strongly supported trump after his first Foreign Policy speech spoke to reporters about trumps comments today. Here is what the senator had to say . I continue to be discouraged by the direction of the campaign and comments that are made. And i did not think yesterdays speech was the type of speech that one would give who wants to lead the country through difficult times. You know, its interesting to try to figure out who is looking out for trump on the republican side. Theres a lot of scaring away from him. Thats whats going on now. I look at the latest poll that has hillary dramatically above him. Well get to the numbers in a minute. He made a mistake with the Mexican American judge and now it seems like he may be doing it again. Here is bloomberg again. Hillary is up 12. Thats pretty dramatic. Another poll has about seven up. These polls come after the mistake, i believe, he made of the mexicanamerican judge. Doesnt this double down on his ethnic focus . You can be a judge first generation from immigrant parents, youre still a mexican. He says assimilation doesnt occur. They continue to hold the identity of their ancestors who came here. I dont think that clicks with most peoples experience. Whatever accent or look they come with eventually is like the person next door. I think they vote for the future of their children. They will be looking at whether secretary clinton after all her mistakes in egypt, libya, syria is fit to run the Foreign Policyof the country. They will look at the server out at the news today was hijacked by russians. People have to believe her server was totally compromised. Its a binary choice. Who will protect children more . Donald trump or Hillary Clinton. Hillary clinton is compromised and disqualified. Every time trump has a problem, well talk about hillary. You shifted the topic. Youre talking about trump. You want to talk about hillary. Im talking about the Foreign Policy debate that will frame this election. In future, i might as well only ask you about hillary because that will be your focus . I will talk about the election every single night. The fall position taken by hugh hewitt is that hillary sucks . Not hillary successes but her server was compromise and shes
disqualified from being president. Today the president and clintonercli clinton countered trump. Here is secretary clinton. Is donald trump suggesting that once the magic words are uttered it will stop terrorists from coming after us. Trump is obsessed with name calling. From my perspective, it matters what we do. Not just what we say. What do you think of that . Magic words that trump wants used. I think it was a mistake for the president to have this argument over semantics. Buckled. It lays the fact that there are substantive policy differences in terms of what we would do. If you have adversaries they will take everything you say and twist it. Two years when ted cruz started to push this radical islamic terrorism, the white house is like were going to ignore him. Americans assume theres something going on. Sort of spooky thing he put out that they have different views. It does point it out. That comment, even republicans are widely pinning. You thought Lindsey Graham was so out raged but he put out a
statement. Something sinister. Hes not one of us. I understand you dont agree with that thinking. I want to give you a minute to respond. When he talks about the possibility, theres Something Else going on here. I dont know what it is. Theres something in the president s motive thats a bit murky here. What do you think hes doing . I reject any insinuation of that. I hope he does not return to that line of argument. He ought to think to the president s record. You got to stick to the server and stick to the script like Mitch Mcconnell said. Stay on the script. Its a comment like that that makes it hard for people like me to return to the fact that syria is a nightmare because he did not enforce the red line and libya is a branch of syria and
isis. We didnt stay. Trump needs to stay focused on the president s fiascos not on these intimations. I got a hit list like that. Its why did we go into iraq . Why did we get involved with overthrowing a government without any idea of the bedlam to come. What side are we on in syria . I dont get it. We all have our list. Thank you for coming on. Isnt your organization one of those bans by trump . What does that feel like . Is it like nixons list . When we come back, the latest on the investigation into the orlando killer and new details about the wife of the shooter and what she knew and when she knew it. This is a horrible wrinkle coming here. A lot of people will be
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we heard Hillary Clinton use the term radical islam. Today president obama addressed his critics who demand he use it as well. If theres anyone out there that thinks were confused about who our enemies are, that would come as a surprise to the thousands of terrorist who is we have taken off the battlefield. Theres no magic to the phrase radical islam. Its a political talking point. Its not a strategy. Well be back with the latest on that investigation down in orlando now focused on the killers wife, when we come back. Youreonna wanna try. Every last one. Like the new coastal lobster shrimp. With a woodgrilled lobster tail,. Wildcaught red simp crusted with panko,. And shrimp fresh off the grill and brushed with. Summer ale bbq sauc or try the new lobster shrimp overboard,. Because when a dish can wow you like this,. Overboards the only way to describe it. But hurry, this ends soon. [we know a thing two becauseed weve seen ahing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum,b trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax constipated . Use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief
welcome back. We have new details on the investigation into the orlando
shooting massacre. Pete williams is here with the latest. The wife, this is fascinating, staggering information were getting. Heres what were told by authorities. These are people who are familiar with what she has told the fbi. They say shes told them she was with him when he bought ammunition and a holster a couple of weeks ago. She drove him around to a couple of spots, including the pulse nightclub. He expressed some interest in carrying out some kind of terror attack. She says that she tried to talk him out of doing anything. That one of the reasons she drove him around was to have the opportunity to talk him out of doing anything that would harm people or be a criminal or terrorist act. She, of course, was unable to do so. Now, the problem for her is, well, a couple of points. The fbi doesnt know whether what she is saying is true. They know the two of them were
driving around to various spots and the question is whether they were conducting surveillance or casing them. The second thing is, they dont know whether its true that she says she tried to talk him out of these things. Thats going to be something they will have to sift through. If it is true, if she did try to talk him out of it. If she had some sense he would carry out a terror attack and failed to tell anybody, then she could face criminal charges. Its against the law not to tell the police. They are considering charges against her. Theyre a long way of considering whether to file them. They are a long way from knowing what happened here. Its the subject of great interest to them. I would say its the most active part of the investigation. Just in general terms, if someone tells someone, im interested in doing something, like im going to kill a bunch of people but its not a detailed commitment. Its just an attitude i have, is
that an accessory position to be in to know that without be the person doesnt tell you what theyre going to do, go to the pulse nightclub and shoot some people . Probably not. Heres the distinction. Under federal law, this gets a little technical. Its illegal not to tell the police when a crime has been committed. You may say to yourself, what crime was committed here . The answer is that the government lawyers are looking at is the act of preparing for the attack. Buying ammunition, buying holsters, driving around looking at sites. Thats preparation. Thats a crime. If she failed to tell the police, they could charge her with this statute of failing to tell the police. Thats the federal side. The authorities in florida will have their own interest in potentially filing charges. They have a whole different set
of statutes that may or may not have as high a bar. She could face state charges. Who knows what shell say after shes lawyered up. Up next, the massacre in orlando has reignited the political debate over gun safety reform. Ill talk to a democratic member of congress who protested the lack of action. He did so on the house floor last night. A real protest against not doing anything. This is hardball, the place for politics. This is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. This is humira helping me go further. Humira works for many adults. It targets and helps to bloca specif source of inflammation that contributes to ra sptoms. Doctors have been prescribing humira for over 13 years. Humira