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couple in iran's protest movement. he spent years in prison before fleeing into exile. soon their two children joined him. since the green movement protests of 2009, iran has been roiled by sporadic mass protest. narges has spent much of the last decade either in court or in prison for her campaigns against political repression, the death penalty and present abuses. one of her fellow inmates in evin prison was the british—iranian woman. she is a very lively, very kind and generous woman, who would make sure that everyone who comes into that ward feels comfortable.— comes into that ward feels comfortable. ~ , ., ., comfortable. when 22-year-old massa harmony _ comfortable. when 22-year-old massa harmony died _ comfortable. when 22-year-old massa harmony died in - comfortable. when 22-year-old massa harmony died in police i massa harmony died in police custody and 2022, having been detained for violating the islamic dress code, a new protest movement led by women and girls confronted the regime. the slogan — woman, life, freedom — swept through iran and across the world. from her prison cell, narges mohammadi smuggled out messages of support and defiance. narges mohammadi has not seen her teenage daughter and son for eight years. she calls that a pain that reaches to the marrow of her bones. they will accept the nobel peace prize on her behalf. a moment that will bring home the price narges mohammadi has paid to continue her struggle. targeting rock money, welcome to hardtalk. it is a great pleasure to meet you and talk to you and i must begin by wishing you many congratulations, of course, on behalf of your wife, who has won this amazing award, the nobel peace prize. but i imagine you being here and her unable to be here, your emotions must feel very mixed today. as you say, this is an award based on a lot of campaigning work that your wife narges has done over many years. i want to ask you a few personal questions, if i make? the first is a very basic ones. she is in evin prison, are you and your children able to communicate with her right now? can you literally dashcam you talk to her at the moment, on the telephone? is it possible? ijust wonder i just wonder whether you have a sense of how she is feeling right now, because i know she is aware that you and your children ali and kiana have come to oslo to receive the prize on her behalf but are you able to tell me how she is right now? you and narges have made extraordinary sacrifices to continue your human rights campaigning work. i know you have been in prison i think for more than 1a years inside iran, before you took the decision to leave the country and you now live in france. you and narges have had very little opportunity to actually enjoy married life together, because of course in recent years you have been completely separated and she has spent most of the recent years in prison. have you and she talked about the price you have had to pay to continue this work of yours? what does she say about it? it is very difficult for me to imagine what it has been like, both are you and for narges, as a family. because of one thinks about the amount of time she has spent in time the reality is that for more than half of your two children's lives, ali and kiana, she has been completely separated from them. she has not been able to see them at all. it is a huge sacrifice. she has talked about it, she has talked about how the pain of separation reaches to the marrow of her bones. try to the marrow of her bones. try to explain to me what it is — what is the strength, the determination, inside your wife that makes her able to withstand that kind of pain. you talk about iran being a land in crisis, and, of course, the crisis has intensified since the killing in detention of the 1—woman, muster a of the 1—woman, mustera mini who was picked up by the rowdy police because they said she was violating the rules on proper dress in iran mark. —— morality police sense and we have seen waves of protests across the country, particularly women shouting woman, life, freedom! does narges, who was watching this from evin prison, does she believe that this protest movement can fundamentally change iran? on the specific question of the compulsory hijab, which was obviously the spark for this protest movement, and the freedom of this woman, narges has written from prison on words which have been smuggled out, she said the compulsory hijab is an instrument of the domination, it is one way in which the regime, she says, has legalised and systemised the tyranny and oppression of women. ward it therefore be fair to say that narges believes that there cannot be freedom, democracy, equality in iran under the current islamic theocratic regime? your wife knows better than anybody the determination of the islamic republic leadership to suppress the current protest movement, and to repress the freedom of movement that you and your wife are a part of. she wrote this extraordinary book, white torture, the treatment of women's prisoners, the way in which solitary confinement and cruelty as systemised in this present. given that determination on the part of the regime, how can narges continue to believe, as she seems to, that victory will come for those who are campaigning forfreedom come for those who are campaigning for freedom and democracy? ifi if i may interact for a moment, look at the reality. hundreds of people killed during the protest. the death penalty is being used against some of those who were part of the protest movement. everything suggests the regime is actually cracking down harder, and many of the protests are being reduced in size and scale. to the outsider, it looked as though the regime believes it can outlast the protest movement. i need to and, if i may, asking you another difficult and personal question. narges has suffered terribly in prison, her health has been very poor at times, she almost died on one occasion in prison. she still faces years in prison, she still faces in theory, 100 lashes as part of her punishment. do you believe that you and your children are going to be reunited with narges one day? do you think winning their surprise might make a big difference to the causes that narges has devoted her life to? —— winning this prize. taghi rahmani, we must and there but i must congratulate both you and your children for being here in oslo to receive the nobel peace prize in behalf of your wife and thank you also very much for being on cards talk. —— very much for being on cards talk. -- hardtalk. hello. for the second evening in a row, we've seen gusts over 70mph hit wales. of course, on saturday evening, it was storm elin that brought the very strong winds whereas sunday evening, it was storm fergus with a top gust of 74mph recorded at aberdaron. now, those very blustery conditions will tend to ease over the next few hours but the winds picking up for a time across the midlands, east anglia and southern counties of england. might be strong enough to wake you from your slumbers. further north, the winds will be that bit lighter and it's here where we'll see the lowest temperatures. in scotland, 2—5 degrees. otherwise, the winds keeping those temperatures up for northern ireland, england and wales, so between 6 and 9 degrees, so quite a mild start to the day on monday. now, monday, any rain left over across eastern england clearing pretty quickly but there will be some patches of light rain coming and going for the day across eastern scotland. some showers work in across merseyside, greater manchester, and north—west midlands but otherwise, it's a day where the weather will continue to get brighter and brighter with sunny spells breaking out widely and those temperatures lifting in places into double figures. make the most of that relatively quiet spell because on tuesday, we're back to another area of low pressure. this one slowly rolling in off the atlantic, bringing with it some persistent rain in scotland. aberdeen's already had over a months worth of rain, so we could see some localised flooding impacts. bit of snow over the higher scottish mountains but nothing to get excited about — it's really high up. blustery conditions in the southwest with plenty of showers, some of them turning quite heavy with an odd rumble of thunder. temperatures again quite widely into double figures but again, scotland seeing temperatures around 6 or 7. now, that low pressure starts to pull away during wednesday. as it does so, the winds go round to a northeasterly direction, bringing some damp weather to eastern areas of england but also dropping the temperatures progressively through the day such that by the time we get to the afternoon, we're looking at temperatures typically around 6 or 7 degrees — feeling quite a bit cooler — but in scotland, around 3—4 for some. and then, we have a weather front moving into that cold air wednesday night. could turn to snow for a time over the hills above 300m elevation. the snow is short—lived — it will turn back to rain as slightly milder air begins to push in off the atlantic once again. that damp weather, then, continues eastwards on thursday. high pressure then takes over, giving us quite a long spell of dry and sunny weather but you have to wait until friday to see the best of that. the you are live from london. this is bbc news. diplomats at the united nations say another vote to call for a ceasefire in gaza is likely on tuesday — as the israeli bombardment continues. rishi sunak will appear at the uk covid inquiry later to answer questions about his decisions as chancellor during the pandemic. the conspiracy theorist alex jones returns to x after his account was reinstated by elon musk. and as panto season kicks off in the uk, we look at how venues are toning down their shows for people with additional needs. hello and welcome — i'm sally bundock. diplomats at the united nations say the general assembly is likely to vote on tuesday on another call for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. although, the outcome would not be binding. according to the prime minister of qatar — which helped to negotiate a week—long pause in the fighting in gaza last month — the opportunity for a renewed ceasefire is narrowing. a senior figure in the hamas movement has issued a threat to israel that not a single hostage will be allowed to leave gaza alive unless the group's demands are met. but the israeli prime minister, called on hamas to lay down its arms, saying that after two months' fighting, the end was near for the palestinian islamist group. the world health organization has adopted a resolution calling for immediate humanitarian aid for gaza.

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