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[applause] >> near record unemployment. for too many decades, we have export jobs. now thanks to what you have done, we are exporting and creating new american jobs >> part of that approach last night was the president also promoting an anti corporate populism. time and time again, taking the opportunity to show that he's on the side of regular, folks getting screwed by everything from credit card companies to hotels, to air lines. >> i know how one feels when a company over charges you and gets away with it. not anymore. we have written a bill to stop it all, it's called the junk fee prevention act. we are going to ban surprise resort fees that hotels charge on the bill, those fees can cost up to $90 a night at hotels that aren't even resorts. it will prohibit airlines and charge 50 dollar round trips for families just to be able to sit together. baggage fees are bad enough, airlines cannot treat your child like a piece of baggage. >> clearly, all of this was directed at the kinds of voters who joe biden and democrats need to win at the margin, in order to win statewide races, senate races, national elections, to govern the country. that was the biden democratic approach. progressive agenda, delivered in this populist, folksy, common sense broadly appealing manner. they're trying to get the people they think are persuadable towards their vision, and not the vision of the republican party in donald trump. then you have the republican party. they are enduring the image from last night, georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, booing and hollering, heckling from the back row. the parties official response, delivered by former trump press secretary, now governor of arkansas, a daughter of former governor of arkansas, sarah huckabee sanders, she sounded like a mega fox news fever dream. >> the biden administration seems more interested in woke fantasies than the hard reality that americans face every day. he is the first man to surrender his presidency to a woke mob that cannot even tell you what a woman is. his administration has been completely hijacked by the radical left. i have signed executive orders to ban crt, racism, and indoctrination in our schools. eliminates the use of derogatory term latin ex-in our government. we are under attack in a left-wing culture war. we did not start, and never wanted to fight. >> every day, we are told that we must partake in their rituals, salute their flags, and warship their false idols. >> what are you talking about? what are you talking about? literally, in a real sense, what flex? this is not an aberration, this is actually the way that the republican party is running the part of the government that they now control. just look at what they were up to today. it is a typical day in the maga caucus, rather than working on something material, tangible like, for instance, bringing down inflation, the cost of living, you could have a hearing on that. they held a hearing, and i quote, twitter's role in suppressing the hunter biden laptop story. the front of the mind for most americans, republicans on the oversight committee, devoting a lot of time rambling questions, which posts did twitter sensor, and why did you take my account down, why did you take down the images of the president son's genitals, which they obviously want to see. i wish i was making that up, but that was an exchange, a real one. between congressman byron donalds and twitter's former trustee. >> do you know how many tweets were actually flagged and taken down at the behest of the biden team? >> i would not agree with the characterization of it being at the behest of them. these tweets were reported, and twitter independently evaluated them. >> the email is very clear. more to review, from biden team. the response three hours later, roll so we can see. they request at the bottom, handled these. what does handle mean? >> my understanding is that these tweets contained non consensual nude photos of hunter biden, and they were removed by the company. >> really quick, how could you know so much about the concept of these tweets -- as far as i'm concerned, these are just web addresses. i don't know what's in these tweets. you don't the content, but you don't know who you're talking to the biden team? >> sir, i did not meet with the biden team. there was extensive public reporting about these tweets specifically, which uncovered what they were. >> take a step back. this is a congressional hearing. byron donalds, elected member of congress, why did you take down the pictures of the presidents sons genitals? why, sir? who did you talk about? why are they not up there? why can't i look at them right now, sir? what on earth. of course, the hearing also featured along ramp up complaining about, of course, her suspension from twitter, for repeatedly spreading lies about covid. >> you can consider your speech canceled during my time, because you canceled line. you permanently banned my personal twitter account, which was my campaign account as well. are you you coordinated with dhs, the fbi, the cia, our government, and outside groups, to permanently banned, shadow ban, conservative americans and candidates like me and the former president of the united states. president donald j trump, you were censoring and wrongfully violating our first amendment free speech right. >> well, mr. woke twitter, it looks like the cancel or, has become the cancel. the tables have turned, and now you're sitting on legs. all of this posturing is designed to feed the maga base is to create content for the fox news extent of the universe. it's a big chunk of people, but a relatively small percentage of the populace in total. but look, i'm not the audience for this. i'll be the first to say it. i do get that. and i don't know, maybe this stuff is effective, maybe what the median voter wants to hear is, why did you take down that marjorie taylor tweet? why can't i look at hunter biden's news. why not? that's what people are really into, maybe that's what people can't really care about. but we have already tested this general republican message on a broader scale, in the midterm elections. they tried to persuade swing voters with this kind of thing, and it mostly bombed. most republicans seemed intent on not learning that lesson. have to imagine the white house is happy with them not to. >> david plouffe, former campaign manager for barack obama's 2008 presidential campaign. also served as the senior adviser as president about. jen psaki, former press secretary for president biden, and msnbc host. they both join me now. david, let me go to you first, just on the kind of split effect here of the state of the union and the hunter biden twitter laptop hearing. as two examples, approaches of political speech and persuasion. i felt that the president, he just kind of dunked on them all night last night, and it didn't really seem like today it made me realize or understand it of course, correction might be an order. >> of course not, chris. if you are democrat, it's clear that the republicans and are intent to play their role as basically the weakest, most out of touch opposition. this is what we are going to see for the next two years, and by the way the presidential campaign has not really begun. once that starts, you're going to see this even accelerate, as those candidates all try to appeal to qanon, and the steve bannon audiences of the world. i did think that joe biden last night, obviously he did a great job of talking about the debt ceiling, medicare, social security, but he laid out a blueprint for democrats for the next two years, about the kind of language to use. it was not washington post, see like, but it was language that would be at home in washington, pennsylvania, outside of pittsburgh. talking about no class, people trying to get middle class jobs, the trades, and also understanding that people were still dealing with high prices. wage is not going fast enough. it is the tale of two parties. i would think that one party certainly respected joe biden last night. he's focused on talking to the entire country. generally, swing voters, and specifically moderate voters. the republicans in congress seem incapable of doing that. that is not going to change. mccarthy doesn't have the ability, he's like a bowl of jell-o, he's got no more margin. i think that's what we are going to see. when you're a democrat, thinking about 2024, you've got a long way, a lot of political lifetimes, who's going to happen? that to me is a truism. you can't control what you're putting in this. you can make mistakes on politics, but you can control what you do. joe biden put out a great blueprint, not just for his administration and potential, likely presidential candidacy, but for the entire party. >> jen, both president bill clinton and president barack obama, the two previous democratic presidents, saw the house change hands in the first democratic election, huge, massive, shall lacked. but in both cases, i think that the republican house for both of those presidents ended up politically being useful. it can do substantive damage. even by those terms, there are effective ways to prosecute culture war, glenn young did it on virginia schools when he ran for governor. you took down my twitter post, that strikes me as the worst type of this. >> the fact of the hills that they want to die on, or the hill, is that we want you to spread covid misinformation, and we want to see the genitalia of the president son. if you're sitting at home, you're thinking what the heck, not just progressives and liberals, or active democrats, but 29 people, -- 29 million people, or whatever the final number is watched the speech last night. they watched joe biden say that i want to lower prescription drugs. you know those hotel fees, that's crap, i want to get rid of that. i don't think that you should be able to sit next year thing -- that all sounds fine. my friends from college or texting me about it. and you have sarah huckabee sanders saying that there is a mad mob coming at you, and it's not woke policies. i just think that if they're going to continue, and i totally agree, to run for this, pursuing 11, 12% of the public and population, these are the hills were going to die on. for the white house, if you're sitting there, you're thinking great, we will go appeal to what the rest of the country cares about. >> part of this is the incentive structure. in terms of -- you're seeing, david, in the primary. in case there is an emerging one. you're going to quote each other on, should trans folks be rendered illegal, full stop? should it be made criminally illegal for any gender affirming care anywhere? who is the most anti vax? we are early, they haven't really started to go at each other, desantis and trump, but the incentive structure is the incentive structure, they will go to that because that's where the fight is going to be. >> there's no question. and historically, if you look at presidential elections, it tends to be the party that is base farthest away from the center of the electors, swing voters in the general election who lose. i think that the one thing we're guaranteed is this is going to be a race to the, right race to the bottom, a race for qanon supporters between trump and desantis. and everybody else. that is a hard thing to come back from. remember in 2012, you mentioned obama's reelection. obama was a very tough candidate, so as mitt romney. he had to do some things in that primary that he was never going to recover from. it seemed like a gentle tide in the past, compared to what these folks are going to do. i think that's one thing the democrats have to do a good job of, making sure that these candidates, and whoever come down that republican cesspool of a primary, pays a price for the things that they have to do along the way, in order to secure that nomination. >> personal question about joe biden. but he's a fascinating figure in many ways. one of the things that i think is interesting about him is that he has been often underestimated. i think that particularly recently, the sense is being written off. he's actually 80 years old. that's not a made-up thing about him. it does seem to have a lot of energy and vitality last night at a time when he is going to have the biggest audience that he probably will have all year. >> that's right. it was a 73-minute speech. that is an exhausting thing to deliver. watching the speech, the beginning felt like he was talking about fast, a lot of data and numbers. he got a little extra energy around the time that he had heckling, in the back and forth of the republicans. there's no question that the advantage of it not being a quaint time of what joe wilson yielded barack obama, and everyone was like, oh my god, how could that happen? he fully expected that. they totally expected it. and so you prepare for those moments, but the intangible value for him last night's even beyond even all of these progressive policies that his candidates can be running on, and the agenda which will be valuable moving forward. maybe people will question less whether it's him for the job. that's exactly the point i'm making. , people do question that. and again, it's this calculation, he's 80 years old. that's a lot of years. even more than what is said, the way that you said it, and the way that he performed, you're, there you're in command. >> and he spent an hour in the chamber shaking hands, which would be exhausting for us, and we are young bucks. >> jen psaki, whose new show is coming soon to the msnbc family on peacock, and david plouffe, thank you both very much, that was great. coming up, republicans trying to pretended they never ever wanted additional security, or reforming, or cut it. even though that is obviously always been the plan. president biden successful mid speech negotiation, next. on, next