belief in why they are fighting, but in others there is a deep resentment. why can't the un do more to get the kind of world peace that most of us long to see? you've got a structure here in the united nations that reflects a post—second world war order. the new order, the new balances of power, are not reflected in it. and what are meteorites made of? for that matter, what's space made of? when scientists add up all the matter, all the stuff we can see in the galaxy, that matter doesn't create enough gravity to hold that galaxy together, so there has to be something else there. on the battlefields of eastern and southern ukraine at the moment, the temperatures are bitter and the fighting is inevitably limited. but as the russian invasion approaches its second anniversary, things aren't going particularly well for ukraine. there's political infighting in kyiv, with angry arguments about the way forward and criticism of president zelensky�*s decision—making. millions of innocents suffering... the biden administration in washington is getting worried about the level of support the us can give ukraine. and anyway, a lot of its attention is directed towards israel and gaza, which will probably turn out to define the limits of american influence even more than ukraine will. we've heard outgoing mortar fire... the bbc ukraine correspondent james waterhouse has just got back to london after touring the front lines, so i asked him about the situation as he had found it. there's a tension for the first time. i think you remember early on in the invasion, when it was a simpler story — it was a story of the oppressor versus the oppressed. you had a wartime leader, president zelensky, who stayed, despite the very real risk to his life, and ukraine has mounted the extraordinary defence that it did and continues to do. and here we are now, where president zelensky is starting to receive the political scrutiny that you would expect in a political period of peacetime. there seems to be a frustration between the ukrainian government, president zelensky, who handles the political side of things, where he has to talk up whatever gains have happened for his side on the battlefield to appease western allies and western critics. but there's also a change of view, really, from his generals, notably the head of his armed forces, valery zaluzhny, who has described the war as being in a stalemate. we've spoken to soldiers across the 700—mile front line, and the view really does vary. there are some areas where morale is higher, where there have been some gains, and there's a strong belief in why they are fighting. but in others, there is a deep resentment at being ordered to throw themselves forward where they are suffering losses, notably in the east and north—eastern parts of the front line, and where they describe the orders as being politically influenced, where ukraine is trying to push where it can, regardless of the military logic to it. so we are starting to see a growing tension, and ukraine's position hasn't changed. it still wants to defend itself no matter what and ultimately liberate all of its territory. that doesn't seem quite so likely now, though, does it, the liberation business? well, it's a tall order. there is a possibility still that crimea could be retaken, and i know that sounds extraordinary, cos crimea, the southern peninsula, is seen as the cornerstone of russia's occupation. it's somewhere that vladimir putin has framed as being part of russia, unlike other parts of ukraine, where he formed that false justification of trying to "de—nazify the country", in his words. because there are so few entry points into crimea, it is possible that russian troops could be isolated, like we saw with the liberations of last year. and to me, that is still the most likely avenue to some kind of ukrainian victory. if crimea were to fall back to the ukrainians, that makes it very difficult for vladimir putin to continue to justify this war to his people and the families, the countless families who have lost sons to the fighting. do you find the old mood of determination to throw the russians out, is that fading? we've spoken to soldiers whose daily priority is to stay alive. and, of course, there are other areas where there are soldiers who are "prepared to die", in their own words, because of the cause they believe in and the fact that they are fighting forfreedom, and ukraine still has a clearer motivator than the russians. all the recent polling suggests that there is still an overwhelming appetite for ukraine to fight this war. when you hear talk or proposals of a negotiation or concession, that would allude to some kind of middle ground, but for ukraine, that doesn't exist in their eyes. because a middle ground could be territorial concession, it could be some kind of ceasefire, but what president zelenskyy and people tell you all the time is, over the past nine—and—a—bit years, russia never recognised ceasefires in the east. they never recognised those early ceasefires in the full—scale invasion. and even if ukraine was to agree to some kind of deal and the western help was to wane, russia, because it can, would stay on a war footing. they would mobilise once more, and in maybe two, three, four, five years�* time, they would simply have another go on kyiv and to try and take what they wanted to in the first place. so it suits russia, i think, to hold out for that pause, that ceasefire. and for ukraine, as ever, it's a nonstarter. in a war of attrition, when you're the smaller boxer in the ring, it suits the bigger beast in this fight. you'll be spending christmas in ukraine. what's it like for you personally? it's... it's poignant, really, ithink, em... i think when you speak to people and hear and share stories, there is a fatigue. but i think also this christmas is interesting, because, for the first time, ukraine is having christmas on the 25th of december to further distance itself from moscow and the russian orthodox church, which has its christmas in early january. and so it feeds into that hardening of ukrainian identity as it tries to pull away from russia by any means possible. archive: now the final| signing of the charter... there was a time when people still had the feeling that the world's leaders had a duty to step in and bring wars like the one in ukraine to a stop. the time for action is here now! - that is, after all, what the united nations was intended to do when it was first planned by america and britain, while the second world war was at its height. but, of course, the political divisions in the world have made that impossible. and recently un peacekeepers have been thrown out of several countries in africa, sometimes on the grounds that they were making things worse. is there any serious future for the united nations, or has itjust become a powerless talking shop? james landale is the bbc diplomatic correspondent. on the one hand, at the top, politically, strategically, as a venue for collective security, a place where peace can be agreed, where conflicts can be sorted out, that is much diminished. but there's still, on the other hand, a very large part of the un machinery delivering humanitarian aid, whether it is short—term or long—term development — that still carries on, and, you know, the un is having a real impact on the ground whenever aid is allowed in. well, i remember being in afghanistan and having a taliban government minister saying that, without the un world food programme, the entire country would collapse, so that is true. but these are sticking plasters, and the un seems incapable of stopping the problem in the first place, isn't it? well, the un very rarely stops problems. it quite often comes in to try and resolve them when they come, and the problem it's got at the moment is that, for a variety of reasons, it's either being ignored by world powers that just make decisions — so, for example, you know russia invades ukraine. russia is a permanent member of the security council, the p5, as they're known, and just against all the precepts and rules of the united nations, the un charter, it invades territorially another country. this is what the un was set up to do, was to try and prevent that sort of thing happening. it clearly isn't working now. and this is because russia, china, france, britain and the united states each have a veto. yeah. sometimes the un has worked, particularly at the end of the cold war, there was a period where, um... there were events, conflicts, where the un could play a role, where it wasn't seen as part of sort of big—power politics. but then, you know, iraq happened without the permission of the un. there's been a trend for, whenever people wanted to make peace, they've done it in a different way. governments like sudan, mali just say to the united nations, "we don't want your troops here as peacekeepers any more. "get out." yeah, because they think that either the un will be a threat, or they think that it won't actually help. the fundamental problem is that you've got a structure here in the united nations that reflects a post—second world war order and the new... the new order, the new balances of power, are not reflected in it. so what that means is that people don't trust it, they don't want to go to it, and, um, er... they don't feel that it's going to have an impact for them. and what's been really interesting, particularly as a result of russia's invasion of ukraine, is that the role of the security council, which used to be the sort of the peak of it, has diminished, but the general assembly, which is the un body that encompasses all i90—plus members, has become much more influential. that's where the key votes took place about whether or not russia's invasion of ukraine was legal. that's where a lot of the politics is going on, the jockeying for position, people trying to get onto... chairman of that committee and that commission and things like that, because they know that's where there is at least a little bit of influence to be leveraged. there's no possibility of changing it, is there? everybody pays lip service to reform to varying lesser degrees. they all have their own pet plans for who they think should be on the security council and what powers they should have. but ultimately, whenever there's an attempt to get this going, it very rarely gets beyond the first base, which is why people now fear that what's going to happen is the un is just going to tail off and become more and more... i wouldn't say illegitimate, but lacking legitimacy in the eyes of the rest of the world. there is, of course, that awful precedent of what happened to the league of nations, isn't there? i mean, do you think that the united nations is now starting to go down that slope? i think there is a desire out there to have some kind of organisation that has some kind of supranational authority, that can be an area and a forum and a vehicle to discuss collective security, because i think most countries accept the idea that some form of collective security where you pool a bit of sovereignty and say, "look, we're going to allow you "to discuss, collectively, issues", there is benefit to that. whether it remains to be done in the form of the un, i think, remains to be seen. but at the moment, if you think about it, the uk sees reform of the un as a way of currying favour with middle powers. so the big new trend and theme in sort of geopolitics at the moment is for the big countries to talk to the "middle powers". they haven't come up with a better phrase for it. a lot of them don't like being called middle powers, but that's the name they've got at the moment. and it's essentially saying, ok, we the big powers, you know, the big european powers, the americans, the russians, the chinese have to engage with the global south, other countries around the world, because they're becoming more important, because old alliances are breaking down. but in terms of 1945, when the united nations was going to be the policeman that stopped wars in the future, i mean, that's all long gone. yeah. as we have seen in recent years, that has all gone. russia has been, you know, repeatedly denounced on the floor of the un security council for its invasion of ukraine. nothing. it hasn't changed anything. and whenever there have been discussions involving the ukrainians and the russians, by and large, it's been hosted by the turks and outside the forum of the un. so i think the challenge for the un is to prove its relevance once again. while we're obsessing about what's going on down here on earth, all sorts of exciting and interesting things are happening in space. we have liftoff. elon musk�*s organisation has sent up a rocket as part of a plan to build a base on the moon. the european space agency's euclid telescope is producing extraordinary data which may give us clues about the nature of dark matter and dark energy. and nasa hasjust handed british universities and museums a teaspoon full of dust and rock, which it's extracted from a potentially dangerous asteroid, 500 metres across, called bennu, that's spinning rather dangerously towards us in space. i spoke to rebecca morrell, the bbc�*s science editor, about these things. i first asked her for more details about bennu. it has been a really quite an audacious mission in some ways. so a few years ago, they sent this spacecraft, osiris—rex, up into space. it spent a couple of years travelling to bennu, spent some time orbiting around it, and then in this kind of smash—and—grab manoeuvre, it unfurled a robotic arm down to the surface of the asteroid and grabbed sort of a handful... i mean, it kind of was a handful, about 200g of material, from the surface. oh, yeah, that is.... yeah, so not that much. and it's precious for a couple of reasons. so, first of all, the most dangerous space rock, that's a good reason to study it. should we ever need to try and bat away a bit of asteroid, it's kind of a good idea to know what it's made of. but there's another really good reason. asteroids are geological remnants from the very beginnings of our solar system four—and—a—half billion years ago. so they're bits of rock that have been... bits of rock that didn't turn into planet. exactly, they're the leftovers. so studying one of these pristine bits of space rocks gives you an idea of what was going on four—and—a—half billion years ago. one theory is that, early on in the earth's history, asteroids like bennu crashed into our planet, and they delivered these essential compounds. they delivered water, they delivered carbon — so all of the stuff we needed to make our own planet habitable. and the only way you can really test this theory is by actually studying the pristine material grabbed from a space rock. elon musk�*s rocket — what's it, starship? starship. that...didn�*t go as planned, did it? so spacex is elon musk�*s rocket company. spacex do do things in a slightly different way. they like to test their stuff, they like to break it. they like to look at it to see what went wrong, how they can make it better, and then they have another go. so, for spacex, the fact that they got a bit further this time with the test, for them, that would have been seen as a success. why does nasa need spacex? why can't itjust do it itself and just carry on doing what it was doing in the �*60s and �*70s? before, it was all kind of pretty much done in—house. now they're outsourcing a lot of the technology to different companies. america would say, you know, this is to kind of boost the space economy in the country, too, so that's playing a role. i mean, it's different as well from the apollo missions. nasa don'tjust want this to be sort of a one—off visit or where astronauts kind of go down, they walk on the surface for a few days and then they come back again. they want to start looking at building a permanent base there so that astronauts can go to the moon, stay on the moon, study what's on the moon, but it's also with an eye to going further as well. so, ultimately, they're looking to get to mars and even... from the moon? from the moon. but is the reason they're bringing in big corporations that nasa can't afford it, or is itjust they want a wider kind of pool to draw from? it's a bit of both in some ways. you know, it's really expensive building your own rockets. they would say as well, you know, working with different companies helps them to move a bit faster as well. i suppose you've got kind of multiple places doing multiple things all at the same time. and the third thing i wanted to ask you about was europe's euclid telescope. how can they look for dark matter when it can't be seen? i mean, it's tricky, isn't it? the concepts behind this arejust mind—blowing, really. the idea is that, as we're talking to each other, trillions of dark—matter particles, if they are particles, are thought to be streaming through us, but they don't interact... what, now? now, yeah, now. now they're almost like these ghost—like particles, but we know they're there because when scientists look out in space at the bigger picture, and they look at, say, a galaxy, and they add up all the matter, all the stuff we can see in the galaxy, that matter doesn't create enough gravity to hold that galaxy together, so there has to be something else there. so they think there's this dark matter, this matter that we can't see, that's kind of acting a bit like the glue that's holding things together. so they're going to be trying to find that. but how does a telescope find it? they're not going to see the dark matter, but by looking at the sky... so they're going to be mapping, creating a 3d map of about a third of the heavens. they'll be looking for these tiny distortions in the galaxies and stars, little wobbles, which infers that it's there. the other thing is dark energy, and dark energy is really cool, so when the big bang happened, everything started kind of hurtling outwards over time. you know, it started from a single point, everything kind of started spewing out, the universe started to grow. so they think there's this force called dark energy, which is creating a kind of pushing force which is causing the universe to sort of speed up in its growth. now, if you know what dark energy is, it helps you to understand kind of what was going on at the beginnings of time. but it also gives you an idea as to what's going to happen in ourfuture. is our universe going to keep on sort of speeding up and just stretching, stretching, stretching? is it going to pull itself apart, or is it going to reach a certain point and then start collapsing back in on itself at the end, too? so it has consequences for our beginnings and perhaps our end also. so, again, they're not going to be able to see dark energy, but by looking at these very small distortions in the billions of galaxies that they're going to see, they should be able to get an idea of what this stuff must be like. so three quite sort of positive things. it does say something rather good about humankind, doesn't it? for me, covering these stories, it's about sort of, you know, it's the human imagination, the kind of, you know, the endeavour. it shows us what's possible, i guess, and, you know, that the extraordinary is possible sometimes with some of these space stories. becky morrell, science editor, helping to raise our heads above the mess we're making on this planet of ours. but down here, as we get close to the end of a difficult and violent year, three things seem to be happening. ukraine certainly isn't winning the war that russia unleashed on it. israel, even if its war with hamas succeeds, is in serious danger of losing the peace. and the way things are going, it looks perfectly possible that, a yearfrom now, donald trump will become us president again. as a result of these things, the entire world order could be turned on its head in 202a. of course, events can change very fast. it's only six months since yevgeny prigozhin, head of the wagner mercenary group, was threatening to capture moscow. then he abandoned his coup, and a few months later, his plane crashed and he was dead. vladimir putin, who had looked as though he was on the ropes, emerged triumphant. and since then, ukraine's long—planned counteroffensive has spluttered to a halt, and russia, with 170,000 new recruits in training, is starting to push back at the increasingly exhausted ukrainians. some, at least, of the western weaponry which helped ukraine score its major successes, is now being diverted to israel for use in the war on hamas. if donald trump wins the us election in just under a year, he could well shut off american weapons to ukraine altogether. and europe — as ever, nervous and disorganised — will have to decide if it'll go alone in resisting russia. russia's survived, thanks in part to the help its had from china and from what the west regards as an unsavoury collection of countries, especially iran and north korea. and much of the developing world doesn't seem too worried that russia has broken international treaties and invaded the country next door. vladimir putin doesn't seem to have altogether persuaded his own people, though. a recent opinion poll showed that three quarters of russians want peace now, and an expensive propaganda feature film all about heroic russians crushing the evil neo—nazis of ukraine has been a complete flop at the box office. still, as i say, things can change fast. so what seems like a pretty worrying future this december may look quite different by the spring. yet even though, as the old song says, there may be trouble ahead, enjoy the christmas holidays, and unspun world will be back in early january. so from the unspun team and from me, every good wish until we meet again. hello there. it's going to be quite a mixed bag for us this weekend. not a wash—out. there will be some sunshine at times, but that's going to come in between two spells of rain that are coming in from the atlantic. atlantic, that means it's going to be mild, but saturday looks like it could be quite windy for many places. now, one part of the country sensitive to more rain is dorset, where we've got a number of flood warnings already and there could be 20—30 millimetres of rain here. you can keep up to date with the flood warnings online. we could see the risk of flooding increasing this weekend with more rain moving in. and this is the rain that's heading in at the moment from the southwest. we've got this rain still across scotland leftover from earlier on that is moving northwards. allowing that rain to come in from the southwest and usher in some milderair as well as some stronger winds as well. so for many parts, it's going to be a wet start. and because of that, we're looking at a mild start to saturday, no frost this time. you can see the extent of the rain across england and wales and northern ireland. it's going to move northwards and eastwards. could be quite heavy for a while. for england and wales, we should eventually see some sunshine coming in from the west. the odd shower but rain could return to northern ireland, and it looks quite cloudy for scotland with some rain from time to time. mild though temperatures 8—9 in scotland to a high of 14 in the southeast with some late sunshine. it's going to turn quite windy through the day, though, across england and wales and northern ireland, gales quite widely, and around some irish sea coasts the winds could be gusting 60—70 miles an hour. now, those winds will tend to ease overnight and the rain will continue for a while across scotland and northern england. and then as that move through, we've got the next band of rain just approaching the far southwest by sunday morning. again, it should be frost free temperatures, six oi’ seven degrees. and it's almost a repeat performance, really, on sunday. this band of rain moves in a little later, but it's not going to be quite as heavy. shouldn't last as long. and again, we'll get some sunshine coming in after the rain for england and wales. more rain returns to northern ireland and still cloud and patchy rain left over in scotland. temperatures not quite so high, but it's probably not going to be quite as windy. should be a reasonably mild start to next week. there's still some rain around from time to time. it does turn drier as the week goes on, but it does turn a little chillier. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: the us vetoes calls for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. israel says a united nations resolution would have allowed hamas to regroup, but the head of the un warns of a humanitarian catastrophe. former immigration minister robertjenrick warns the government will face the "red—hot fury of voters" over rwanda legislation which he says will fail. good morning. chelsea manager emma hayes hits back, saying women are used to systemic misogyny in football following, the comments from ex—player joey barton that women shouldn't be allowed to commentate on men's football games. a dinosaur�*s final meal revealed. the 75—million—year—old fossil that sheds new light onto what dinosaurs ate, and how they hunted. and there is more rain in the forecast today, with a risk of flooding in some areas. but today won't be a washout for some of you, as sunshine will develop. but as it does, the wind strengthened to gales. i will have the full forecast later. it's saturday the 9th of december. our main story: the united states has blocked a un security council resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza.

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