times" that he's losing support amongst groups that he must wip. he cannot just win voters of color. he must win big. and right now, he's running even with trump in one crucial group. today why more men of color are backing trump and the states where those votes could be decisive. plus the white house hosted an event this week, but some guests rejected the invitation because of the handling of israel's war. we'll talk to one of them. and it's veterans day. we'll look at the push to further recognize the contributions of black veterans. i'm victor black well. let's start the show. there's a new cnn poll of recommegistered voters this wee the news is not good for the president. he's running nearly even with donald trump among men of color. 49 and 46 with trump at 49. that's within the margin of error, but that's remarkable. in 2020 biden won men of color by 34 pointings. he won black men by 60 points. la tee know men, 23. and sure the election is not going to be held today. it's about a year away. and is biden ultimately expected to win with minority voters, men and women, yes. but the margins are crucial. i got numbers coming to you now. stick with me. 4.9 million votes were cast for president in 2020. according to our exit polls, 11% of them were black men. biden won georgia by fewer than 12,000 votes. in arizona, 3.3 million votes cast. 9% of them were latino men. biden won there by fewer than 11,000 votes. and the president dismisses the new polling numbers from cnn and similar numbers from "the new york times," but they are consistent with the reporting on biden's softening support among non-white voters. and it all suggests that team biden has a lot of work to do. and it's against the likely opponent who performed better with men of color than any republican presidential candidate of the last 50 years. democrats have started the outreach. the biden campaign targeted latinos wednesday, and its first ad of the campaign targeting asian american voters dropped this week too. >>. >> my participants escaped vietnam during the vietnam war. they started a small restaurant just before i was born. pretty much grew up and learned what it takes to build a business and raise a family. joe biden ask kamala harris is like ours. >> getting ahead means getting the same chance to succeed as everyone else. it's why on this first day, president biden signed an executive order to address racial inequity looking to lessen the racial gap and more funding for black businesses. get getting ahead of the president, joe biden is putting in the work of black many america. they launched the reelection. here's where they the conversation where so many men of color appear to choose trump over biden and can he win them back. with me in studio is a polling expert and an associate professor at emery university and cliff albright, found of the black voters matter fund. welcome to you both. let me start with you. i don't know that anybody expects these numbers to be the same in november of 2024 when the president and former president are running even with men of color, but what does this poll mean? >> it means a couple things. the biden campaign is looking at the sample size. it's also looking at people of color being grouped together. it's important to keep in mind while blacks are very democratic, latinos and asian americans are the democratic, but not as democratic as that. what this suggests in the long-term is there's work to do. i expect these numbers are going to stabilize. i expect when the polling are looking at likely voters, we're going to see some improvement for biden, but if i were the biden campaign, i would be more concerned about making sure those voters turn out to vote as i would be paying attention to one of the horse races. >> you are working with voters trying to get folks registered, protect their rights. what are you hearing about voters' thoughts on the administration and the president's work? >> there's some frustrations there. i think you mentioned it, but i have to reiterate we're talking about a year out. i don't have confidence that the folks that were wrong about the red wave one day before the election can be right about this one year before the election. second point is that we have heard these polls before. we were told trump was going to get 20% of the black vote in '20. he didn't. we were told herschel walker was going to get 20%. daniel cameron would get 20%. he certainly didn't. so we have to keep that in perspective. but thirdly and more specific to the point about black men, what we're hearing is that there are at least efforts from republicans to communicate. a lot of it is disinformation and they are trying to take advantage of genderer differences. they are trying to cater to black men in terms of grievances. they are trying to talk about religious conservatism, some economic issues, not matched by policies, just messaging that they are using disinformation to target so the real question isn't so much why there's been a marginal change, it's why is it with that attention and thats disinformation is actually amazing that there haven't been bigger changes in the way that black men are voting. it hasn't happened yet. i don't think it will. >> i mentioned georgia. i mentioned arizona as well. where else could these votes be desites i-ive in flipping a state one way or another. >> i think it's important to point out that among black voters that gender gap has been present. if you look at gender gaps that we think about broadly, they were bigger amongst blacks and latin folks in 2020 and it's pretty consistent that black men vote more republican than black women do. what these numbers mean and what the turnout numbers mean, because turnout is more important here. it's that in states where the margin is going to be 100,000 votes, it could be in pennsylvania or the margin could be 50,000 votes or 10,000 votes like it was here in georgia, that if you don't have people turning out, that could be the difference between winning and losing an election. >> when you say there are some issues, there's some concerns, what are you hearing from voters who beyond what you say are coming for republican, what they think about the first couple years of the biden administration? >> some people recognize that in terms of legislation, this is actually been ans historic administration. we're talking about the margins. the vast majority are supportive. but there are some issues in terms of younger voters that are frustrated about student debt cancellation. frustrated about voting rights. frustrated that there's not more action on gun violence. and right now because one of these polls that we're talking about came out in the past three or four weeks if the middle of the gaza conflict. there's a lot of younger black voters that are very frustrating with the administration's response. you touched on it in your opening. >> we need to pull that thread a bit more. the third option here between trump and biden is just staying home. and that could be an option that for people who don't think the ulttive is better that you're staying out of it potentially is what they choose. >> i think particularly for democratic-leaning voters, the biden message has to be don't let the enemy be the good. part is who does what in government. so president biden can try to cancel student debt, but if the supreme court says he can't, we have seen separation of powers and checks and balances get in the way. there are things that congress has not passed. so the president can't implement what congress doesn't actually put into law. so there's the big education process so that people can understand and are patient and actually measure their ex expectations p. but another thing that's important that a lot of young black people are saying here is they don't want to feel neglt glegted because of the assumption that they are the democratic so you don't have to do nugget to earn their vote. some of this is a battle cry and a clearing call for the democrats to not ignore black communities. >> is there a generational difference on what you're hearing that we talked about young black voters? are you hearing something different froms older voters than the younger ones? >> definitely generational difference. you definitely have older voters that are super voters. they are going to stay reliable voters. they are going to come out. but with younger voters, young folks talk about you have to have the receipts. you have to show the tangibles. and if they are not seeing it, not so much switching over to trump because not loving him or republicans in general, but there is that option of staying home. there is that option i think you talked about the third party candidates coming out. there is an option that people might look at a cornel west. >> are you hearing people entertaining cornel west or kennedy or any of the others? >> definitely. it's not a huge amount, but you have some people and especially over the past three or four weeks who are so upset about the president's response to gaza that they are like i will never vote for him again. we have to keep in mind that really the black enthusiasm wasn't really there in 2020. he got a lot of the black vote, but black voters recognize he was the best option to the beat trump. but it wasn't out of the deep connection and deep enthusiasm, so some of what the polls are showing is the flaw there from the beginning, we talk about the polls, but the sky is not falling. but there are some issues. they just might be drizzling. you have to pay attention to that. you better get an umbrella and start talking to folks more and look at some of the policies that younger voters want to see. >> it's drizzling. there's no downpour yet. >> you're going to hear directly from the biden campaign. how are they working to bridge the gap heading into 2024? thatat's next. the biden campaign has some trouble with men of color and other groups they need to win and big to be reelected in 2024. what is the came pain going to do now. the communication director it's good to have you this morning. >> it's great to be on. >> let's start here. the president has discounted this numbers from cnn and the times. do you see this there is a problem? >> i think as it relates to polls, we have had a lot of hammering over polls to begin this week. we had folks speculating over how voters might behave. we saw that on monday. we saw it on tuesday. but then we the got real data on tuesday night. you had a bunch of headlines to start the day saying if democrats lost in places like virginia or ohio or bad news for joe biden. but then polls closed and we won in kentucky. we won in ohio. we won in virginia. and the reason we did so was because we had incredible candidates and incredible organizers putting in the work on the ground that the common denominator is they were running on the same vision, the same message, the same policies that joe biden and kamala harris won on in 2024. the same message ing, the same policies that democrats ran on in 2022. so if we keep our heads down, we're going to be successful in november of 2024. because matters are results. not polls over a year out from election day. >> i'll say two things about that. the president himself was not on the ballot on tuesday, but also some of these candidates, especially governmor beshear in kentucky, other democrats were not running on close to biden. they were running as the local guy, i am for kentucky. they weren't running on the biden message because the polls show the president is unpopular. let me ask you about the tragedy though. i had congressman clyburn on, a national cochair for the campaign. the president doesn't need to do anything different. they just need the campaign needs to craft a message. it's about telling people what's done. are you satisfied with the accomplishments that nothing new needs to happen, you just need to sell him better? >> what congressman clyburn is saying is that we have an incredible story to tell. when this president came in to office, we faced historic crises. we had the worst public health crisis in our lifetimes. we had the greatest economic crisis since the great recession and we took action. he was able to get things done and talk about black america. he was able to help us achieve record low unemployment. he was able the to deliver historic investment. he's been able to deliver the fastest rate of black-owned small business growth in a generation. so we have to talk about that. we also have to talk about the stakes as well. we have to talk about the maga extremists who want to roll back the progress we have bye-bye able to achieve. so our focus on a campaign has to be on telling this message over the course of the next 12 months. that's why we have gone up with the earliest investment in black and his panic media. we have a $25 million ad campaign to tell our story, communicate with the constituencies over the course of the next 12 months in order to get the job done on election day. >> you mentioned jobs. and the white house touts 14 million jobs created since the start of the biden min administration. i want to talk about an element of jobs. this is president biden then candidate biden in october of 2020 here in georgia. here's the promise he made. >> we're going to pass a national $15 an hour minimum wage. nobody should have to work two jobs to be above the poverty level. it's wrong. we're going to change it. >> so that's the promise. didn't get $15 an hour. everybody knows you need congress to do that. i want you to listen to gabrielle martinez. this is a latina here in georgia this week in the context of the president's promise there. >> are you happy with your vote for joe biden? >> well, i didn't see something really change, but i didn't see change. right now, i work three jobs because you have to pay more things like my house is more expensive. >> the president said nobody should have to work two jobs to stay out of poverty. this woman has three. how many people have to work two of them to stay afloat? the labor department numbers came out for the third quarter. nearly 8.4 million people in this country are working at least two jobs. that's the highest number since 2019. so when people are looking for that economic shift, they don't feel it. so that woman, you say what? >> i'd say that's precisely why we need another four years to fellowshipish the job. i think it's important that the president wants to get all this done, but we have to be honest about the brick wall of maga extremism that we continue to run into. those are precisely the stake when is it comes to what's going to be on the ballot in 2024. are we going to continue the work to build an economy that grows or do we want to return to the build trickle down economic policies that donald trump and maga republicans put in place for generations? this is the work we have to do over the next four heerz years. the president understands the challenges. he understands people's concerns and he's doing the work to solve it. we have to make sure that everybody gets out and vote november 2024 so we can get the work done. >> it is not -- you suggest you need another four years to finish the job. this is the highest americans have to work two jobs who are working two jobs since before the president got into office. it seems like those numbers are going in the wrong dex. but you keep mentioning maga extr extremists, the former president's party or supporters. president biden often says don't compare me to the almighty. compare me to the alternative. there is a third option of people just staying home. how do you excite people who may w not want trump but aren't sold what they have gotten out of biden. >> we have to put in the work. we have 12 months to go here. >> but what's the work? is it just ads? >> no, it's obviously inclusive of ads, but it's good old fashioned organizing on the ground. we have launched a couple pilot programs, both up in the blue wall and the expansion states. so we are directly communicating with core constituencies on the ground. we are doing things that are focused again on in milwaukee. we have folks on the ground organizing. we have organizers opt the ground talking with hispanic americans. sos that's the work has to take place right now so when we turn the page into 2024, we have a clear choice between joe biden and whoever emerges from the maga republican primary that we have done the job of communicating with people about what this administration has done for them and their families and what our opponents. the to do to roll back the progress we have made. this is what a campaign is all about. it is a marathon, not a sprint. we're putting in the work to get it done. >> communications director with the biden campaign, thank you so much. the red cross stays the health care system in gaza has passed the point of no return. the palestine red credit september says a hospital in gaza just hours away now from closing. the hospital will soon run out of fuel. one humanitarian group says that 500 patients could lose vital medical care and babies, people in the icu will likely die. this morning we're seeing protests around the world calling for a cease-fire in gaza. this is video from london where protests kicked off a little more than an hour ago. and last night, protesters marched through the streets of new york city, snarling traffic, blocking roads, demanding a cease-fire as well. now we saw the frustration with the white house play out this week. a canadian poet, said she declined an invitation from the white house to aan hosted by kamala harris. she was joined by a number of prominent south asian business leaders and artists and social media influencers in declining the invitation. our next guest told "the wall street journal" this. at is this very moment at a time of war, i find there's specifically one-sided stances creating even more devastation. the fact that there's little or no support or acknowledgment of the pain that palestinians and muslims are facing at this moment is really bye-bye disappointing. joining me now is film maker who was on president obama's committee of 30 entertainment leaders chair ed and chaired it asian caucus. talk more about why you decline this invitation in the context of what's happening in gaza. >> thank you so much for having me. i respected this madministratio in many ways, especially kamala harris, who has done a lot to increase the visibility of south asian community. and i went to celebrate diwali with her last year, but at this moment while i could support this administration in many ways, simultaneously, i'm absolutely disheartened by its failure to do something about the suffering that is happening on all sides of this incredible tragedy you can situation. they need to take more humane stance in their policies. more people are dying. >> we read from a statement that she was surprised that the white house would celebrate diwali considering it's a celebration of the victory of goodness over evil, light over darkness. is it a direct conflict for people who don't know much about the holiday, do you see it as a direct conflict of the principles of this celebration? >> as outlined, that's really what diwali is about. it's about finding the light through the dark times. and right now, we are continuing to be in dark times. i don't think this administration is bringing us through the light any time soon. and i think this was a very personal choice for me. i also do think that the south asian community needs to not only be defined by the s celebration, we are incredibly diverse. we celebrate a range of religions and come from a range of backgrounds, and it's important for us to keep holding this administration accountable to where it's fighting against injustice. >> has there been any response to the white house? >> no. >> do you expect one? >> no, not at all. when the vice president also had a luncheon for the indian prime minister, i chose to not attend that either. and at the same time, i can support the administration in different ways and community building, but in times of crisis, when it comes to either upholding people who don't follow democratic principles or are furthering a war and the murder of innocent people or the prolonging of people returning home to their families, it's really hard to celebrate. >> there was another invited guest, i should say there are several who decided to boycott the event after being invited, but there's one who agrees with you. she told "the wall street journal" this. the lodgical side of my brynn tells me not to attend the event and join my peers in the boycott. but the activist in me knows if i don't go, i would not be be leveraging my strength and experience in navigating the american government what about going to the event, telling the vice president exactly how you feel, and bringing it to the administration instead of the boycott? and potentially coming out here and talking to us too, did you consider that an option? >> i mean, i think that everyone can react to an invitation in a different way. and i think if there was an opportunity to actually have a meaningful conversation, if there seems to be a window where there was a possibility of a discussion that could change the opinion and the stance, but when there have been no public declarations of no cease-fire or in this case like a four-hour window of gazans leaving their homes, i don't think from my case that it was going to be the space for a conversation where my voice could be heard in that capacity. >> i thank you for your time and sharing your thoughts with us. thank you. so what will the u.s. population look like in the next decades to come? what a new projection reveals. plus rap lyrics allowed to be evidence. why some critics are calling it a racist double standard. cnn has learned that federal agents seized electronic devices belonging to eric adams. sources tell cnn that the fbi agents approached the mayor in public on monday evening. it happened a few days after federal agents raided the home of the chief fundraiser. this is part of an ongoing investigation into allegations of illegal donations from the turkish government. house republicans are scheduled to meet this morning to reveal details of a government funding bill. that would set up a potential for a vote on the plan as soon as tuesday. but a source tells cnn that things are still fluid and that timeline could change. >> i don't know yet exactly what the speaker is going to put forth. my advice and opinion on this is to do a clean cr. so we can move the ball town the field here and give ourselves more time to finish the work. >> it's still not clear what direction the house speaker is deciding to go, but the government runs out of money in just a couple days at midnight. the big ten conference is sanctioning the university of michigan football team over sign stealing violations. now as part of those sanctions, wolverines head coach jim harbaugh is suspended for the last three games of the regular season, but steven smith called it a slap on the wrist. >> why should they be allowed to go to the college football playoffs. by the way, he can still coach the players during the week. he just can't be on the sideline for the day of the game and come back for the playoffs. how in god's name is that a viable punishment. that's nonsense. i stated it then. i'm stating it now. >> previously denied his program illegally stole signals and said he was fully cooperate ing with the investigation. so this caught my attention this week. let's take a look at america's future. the u.s. population is ageing and will soon start to decline. that's according to the u.s. cent us is bureau that put out a new analysis this week. the latest projections show the major role immigration will play. look at this. right now, roughly 1 in 5 people in the u.s. are hispanic. according to the census, it could grow to 1 is in 4 people by 2060. they call that the most likely scenario. but the projections vary with his pabices being as much as really 28% of the population in this high immigration scenario. so what does that mean and why does it matter? immigration could mean the difference between whether the u.s. has a population of 435 million people at the turn of the century or if it drops to 227 million. that's according to the census bureau. william fry at brookings says this. these emphasize that immigration is an even bigger contributor long-term to our demographic, growth, and stability than perhaps it was in the past. the census says that higher immigration levels would make the country more racially and ethnically diverse, but also young er on average. so we'll have to wait and see. coming up, it's been 25 years since a black woman won album of the year. you should be glad she's even s showing up on stage. that's your hint. the artist with the most grammy nominations this year is sza. she'll have competition from my favorite of the year, janelle monet. ♪ sda leading the grammy nominees with nine nominations. female artists are running song of the year, album of the year, all those categories. joule wicker is here. good to have you in studio. so let's first talk about these women are doing some fan ttasti work getting acknowledged ask recognized. let's put up record of the year first. because some of what we have seen i have been listened to all year. >> it's exciting. a record of the year nomination. and to think a few months ago she said that the mtv said she wasn't ready to perform at the vmas. now she has seven nominations, the second leading nominations for this year. it's incredible. >> sza, she had a really good tour. she was at number one for how many weeks. >> she ran the chart this is year. it's funny. i talked to her in december and she was so nervous. to see her leading the grammy pack is incredible. i'm so happy for her. >> let's talk about al bull of the year. i have a favorite. the age of pleasure had me in a chokehold all summer. and i turned 42 this year. it's just lush. >> it's a fun album. you can play it front to back. it's such a good album. >> let's put those nominees back up. as i say, the ladies are running all of these categories. you have miley cyrus there, and taylor swift, she now has a record for the most nominations as a song writer. we know how great her year has been. for people looking for beyonce, the renaissance year was last year. so please we can't do it this year. there's also a new category. african music performance. it's really hit in the u.s. and so this is a moment of inclusion. >> i think we always have these discussions with the r&b cat the goirs that people get relegated. tu it's great to see that category. >> you have been watching another angle of music. the young thug trial. and a judge has decided that the 17 rap lyrics will be included because prosecutors say that they were talking about committing crimes. what did you learn? >> the judge said they would be conditionally admitted. so they have to show that there's a reason for these lyrics to be brought up in court before they can be brought up. but prosecutors say, if you have a lyric that says i shot at his mommy and now no longer mentions me and you can prove that's a rival, we should be able to use that lyric. so that's really the debate they are having here. >> i said trial, we should say pretrial. we have been watching pretrial for how long now. >> the indictment came down in may we started to see the jury in may of 202 2. we saw that in january of this year, so nine months. >> what's the defense saying? >> the defense is saying that is a complete violation of the first amendment and it also will likely prejudice the juror against their clients unfairly that rap lyrics are the only ones that have their lyrics brought up in court. >> good to have you. thank you stoch. there are more than 2.3 million black vet is rans in the united states. i'm going to speak to a man who says they do not get the recognition they deserve and he did something this week changing that. we'll tell you what it is. today is veterans day. we celebrate the service of men and women in our armed forces. but on tuesday this week, local leaders in buffalo, new york, celebrated the first black veterans day. it focuses on the often forgotten sacrifices and contributions of african-american patriots. joining me now is the chairman of the black veterans day, d dewit lee. i realized i said african-americans, but the first black people who fought for this country when they did it weren't considered americans. they were not still citizens at the time. tell us why you created this day. >> that's an amazing point. if you give me a moment to give me thank his heavenly father, who i pray for protection of our troops around a the world and thank ing all our troops for their service and sacrifice, including my children's grandfather, my black veterans day cofound er, that's ab amazig question. i think we felt differently. we felt there was those who decided to fight for the american side, they felt like this was a way that they can establish their citizenship. there was ed aadvocacy done prio the proclamations being put out by the british who were president america, who offered citizenship this their country. and hungry for freedom and hungry for opportunity. we had a very tough decision to make. >> this was celebrated in canada before now. this was the first time it's been celebrated in the u.s. talk about the significance of november 7th. >> it is historically significant. 1775, the first of two proclamations went out by the british army to entice those who enslaved and freed to fight for freedom. there was a couple years prior to that, there was a court ruling in britain where a black man was able to negotiate for his freedom. so people were really inspired to join that force to support and fight for their freedom. but canada is a place that we have always known as freedom. with november 7th being the first day, we were able to find for our freedom, it made sense to celebrate the day where we were able to actually be in control of our emancipation and not necessarily wait on a bill to be passed. but canada is first. particularly has been supportive of a lot of different initiatives. >> when they created almost a century ago now, it's now black history month, the way i understand it was the goal was to infuse the contributions of black people in this country to the broader american narrative. not to isolate it to a week, which has become a month. how does that happen with black veterans? isolating or saying there's a day for black veterans that we celebrate the contributions, but how do we greater include the narrative of those contributions into the larger story of service? >> that's an amazing question. i think we actually see this as an opportunity to appreciate the growth of this country. seeing the transition, seeing where we have come, how far we have come, obviously, veterans see themselves as comrades, but it wasn't always like that it's very important for us to dig back in history and actually take advantage of all of the research that researchers have dedicated their lives to to produce and make available online. so now we can actually peer deeper into what it means to what it was like to fight for a country that wasn't essentially fighting for them. is and speak ing of the haddist ri is important, canada is a place since 1994, they have had their own veterans day. so they are used to the creating space and room to talk about the growth of the country and the depth of the sacrifice of people of color. and veterans day is the day we celebrate those going to war. and we all support those families and those individuals, but black veterans day is an opportunity to talk about what happened when we came home from the war and all the broken promises to more. >> cofounder of black veterans day, now celebrated for the first time in the united states, i thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. i acknowledge it has to be hard to be the editor of "people" magazine, but we have a few picks, some that you should consider. that's next. this week "people" announced the 2023 sexiest man alive. and it is patrick dempsey. you remember him from "g"grey's anatomy."" another magazine said, hold up. have you seen method man? 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