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candle factory destroyed by this tornado. brian, we just heard from the kentucky governor, what is the latest from him. >> reporter: as you heard, this is still a dynamic rescue situation going on in this part of mayfield also where you are. but here near the candle factory, they are still trying to sift through debris there. this scene behind me is not the candle factory, this is a complex not far from it. we are not allowed to gets a close to the candle factory as we want. but this is a warehouse, a company that manufactures cellphone towers. look at how it got leveled. they have a large shovel there trying to pick through some rubble, two shovels actually now. and this is kind of what these teams are up against. they have to move huge amounts of heavy debris and rubble just to try to get to possibly some people who could be trapped inside these buildings. this is the check point where resources have been coming in all morning to try to get to that candle factory which is just over that ridge. we've had heavy movers come through, response teams coming through all morning. again, a very dynamic rescue situation. governor beshear when he was talking about the complete devastation really struggled with his emotions as he talked about the age range of some of the victims. take a listen. >> just a few more facts about those we've lost. 18 are still unidentified. of the ones that we nknow, the age -- the age range is five months to 86 years. and six are younger than 18. >> reporter: so just devastating dynamics there and information about the age range of the victims, five months to 86 years old. just morehorrible news there. and the governor confirmed eight confirmed dead from the candle factory collapse, eight remain unaccounted for from that incident. there were a total of 110 people, roughly, inside the factory when it collapsed. good news is that 94 people made it out alive. that is much better news than they expected early on. but again, this rescue operation is ongoing and we may get additional information later. >> yeah, if 94 people made it out alive, that is remarkable given what we feared. and to hear from governor beshear there, he has family roots in this part of the state. i don't think the governor excellent very much since friday night. you can see the strain that this is putting on everyone as they continue to try to work through this. brian todd, thank you so much. so six people were killed in illinois as well after a powerful tornado leveled an amazon warehouse. employees there busy trying to get holiday packages out when the tornado hit. polo sandoval is there. what is the latest on the search? >> reporter: that search recovery at this point, all of that seems to be complete here according to authorities. right now the big focus is on cleanup and authorities saying that they plan to wrap that up possibly by the end of today. behind me that warehouse that the tornado basically zeroed in on just this facility here, an ef-3 basically cutting right through a garage portion of that facility causing that partial collapse leading to the death of six of the employees that were working inside. we caught up with the family of one of those, a 29 why would navy veteran by the name of clayton cope. his family telling us a little bit about who he was, working as a main thanks hmechanic, and hi mother telling me last night that the last conversation that she had with her son over the phone, she could hear him urging some of the employees that were inside the building to seek shelter. >> in my heart i know that he went to try to warn other people to get where they needed to be. between his military training and just who he was, he would have done that no matter whether, you know, he was told to or not. so that is the only thing that i can hold on to, i feel like he must have been trying to help someone else. >> reporter: clayton was one of 46 people who was inside of that warehouse an amazon spokesperson telling me that total of 46 people were inside, seven full-time amazon employees and the rest, 39 would were considered partners, contractors like clayton. >> just one family trying to pull through this. so many now in this state. polo sandoval in illinois. illinois, kentucky, arkansas, people suffering across the region. so very soon president biden will be briefed by fema and homeland security officials on the federal response to this deadly tornado outbreak. and jeremy diamond is live at the white house with the latest on the federal response. >> reporter: yeah, we're expecting president biden any moment now to walk into the oval office where he will get hit lahis latest briefing on the deadly tornados from the response team. the president will sit down with the secretary of homeland security, fema administrator and as well as his homeland security adviser. this is the latest update that the president will be getting on the situation, this coming after he signed overnight an emergency disaster declaration approving that for the state of kentucky. earlier this morning you spoke with the homeland security secretary who insisted that he is not only focused on the medium and long temp, but the short term and promising that fema will stay to help until the end. >> i can assure the people of mayfield, the people of benton, the people in the eight counties that were devastated by the tornado that we're not there just temporarily. we're there with them the whole way. and the president has made that commitment. he has directed us accordingly and i can assure the people that will indeed be the case. >> reporter: president biden over the weekend also saying himself that the federal government will do everything in its power to help the people of mayfield and the other areas affected. he also talked about the potential impact of climate change, making clear that these storms in general are getting more intense and that is something that the federal government will look into as it relates to these tornadoes specifically as well. >> all right, jeremy diamond live at the white house. we'll come back to you as soon as we get word that this briefing has begun. our thanks to jeremy. joining me now, suzanne and wayne who own a restaurant here, their business was just destroyed by this tornado. this restaurant has been in your family for how long? >> 75 years. >> 75 years. >> hmy grandparents started it. >> you sent us a photo of what it looks like. can you describe it for us? >> just rubble now. there is nothing left. >> so only about two blocks behind us. >> it is just beyond this bus. in the pile of rubble, that is it. >> what was it like when you saw it for the first time? >> i guess just shocking. you know, we knew something probably happened. we saw it friday night, we walked up here and saw it laying on the ground. i didn't even look, i just went back. >> what is it like to have something that is in your family for 75 years, it is like in your dna. what is it like to look at it now? >> it is devastated. my whole family has worked there sometime or another. my mother, brother, grandparents, aunt, and most of them are gone so really that was he all all the memories that we had. >> and you were at a basketball game. >> yeah, 20 minutes from here. and they had told us everybody needed to take cover while we were at the ball gym. well, i had the bright idea we're going back home because we had family here. and was that mistake. i watched 18 wheelers flip over in front of me. my truck picked up off the ground a couple times. we got back here and once i got to her, we started our way up here. >> so your truck got picked up off the ground a few times? >> yes, sir. >> what does it looks like now? >> it has flat tires. we got home, but our brother's truck is in all that rubble that he had left there and went with me. and it was out in the middle of the road when we got back up here. >> you're lucky you made it. flat tires you can replace. >> sure. >> this is just is just devasta everybody here is good people and i'm going to try to hurry up and get this restaurant back up because i feel like this will give people hope, you know. if i can stand two by fours up and start building walls and people see that we're not done, you know, we're going to go back. and i'm hoping that is what happens. >> these last few years haven't been easy for you. >> covid and then before that, an ice storm. just been one thing after another it seems like. >> how are you going to rebuild, do you have insurance? >> very minimal. he's in you can doctor, so he will take care of me. >> what is the plan? >> just clean it up and start building the walls as soon as the city will let me. i got a good friend who owns a lumber yard and he's already said whatever you need, just come get it, you know. and that is what i'm going to do. unless there is some unseen reason the city says no, don't do anything yet. but i guess we'll find out. because i'm ready to do it, you know. >> what is it like for you to see the town now? both sides of it. on the one hand, i can't imagine what it is like to drive through these streets with the buildings that don't exist. on the other hand, every block you go, i'm looking -- i can see like six trucks of people here cleaning up. so what is that like? >> it is surreal to me right now, i guess. i don't guess it's hit me yet. i guess we're just going like machines. >> you are both doing okay? despite the fact that your truck got lifted up and down a few time, you are physically fine? >> yeah. >> family? >> they are fine. >> do you have friends, anyone -- have you lost anyone dear to you? >> not that i know of yet. we've been sitting at the restaurant side, so we haven't seen much going on yet. but nothing i've heard of. >> and what are the plans for christmas now the next couple weeks? >> we'll have christmas one way or another. we got grandkids. >> you'll have christmas. wayne, susie, anything that we can do, let us know. i like your plan, get those walls up as fast as you can. >> that's what we need. people need to see hope, you know. >> and they are our friends, they are our family. >> everybody here. you know, it is a pretty tight community here. you can walk out of here every day and like you said, you can look at all this. and you can keep looking at it until you decide you're going to move because there is nothing there. somebody got to get something going here to give people hope. that's what we want to do. >> and you're that somebody. >> we'll try. >> thank you so much. for more information on how you can help tornado victims, go to cnn.com/impact. kate, it is remarkable. behind me there are some telephone poles that are standing, and they weren't here 24 hours ago. everything is coming up so quickly as people try to get this town back up and running again. >> it is just -- it is also overwhelming, that is so clear. but the determination of wayne there to hold on to hope, it is catching my emotions even from afar because it seems just -- it is so devastating. but his emotion to hold on to it is really beautiful, john. >> and the people here, they haven't been through anything quite through this, but as you said, they will make it through. >> all right. we'll get back to john, much more ahead on this deadly t tornado outbreak. but also coming up, new cnn reporting on president biden's domestic agenda up against another deadline. democrats push to get his massive social spending bill across the finish line by christmas. so where is joe manchin today? 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>> reporter: this is the delicate balance that the democratic caucus has had to have with senator manchin for the past year as democrats took back the majority in the senate. and that is the fact that they all have to have these conversations very carefully with senator manchin. they can't try to coerce him or have an ultimatum against him because at the end of the day, man dhichin feels very comforta coming from a state that handily voted for president biden in the last election. so this is a careful balance and why that meeting with the president is going to be so critical, that meeting my source told me could come as soon as today but they were trying to firm up some timing, it could slip into later this week. but that is a consequential heating because the president has been very careful in how he talks with and trying to convince senator manchin to get on board with his agenda. he is not somebody who will take it well if all of a sudden democratic senators start coming up against him in a private democratic lunch or start making calls to try to lobby him, it all has to be carefully done. and right now i don't know what kind of feedback that manchin would hear from his democratic colleagues that would really convince him. >> exactly. and i think that is what this really gets at, it is in a place of just stuck no matter that they are still talking, it just seems stuck until joe manchin makes clear that he can be moved. manu, if i could bend your ear for a second because tonight the house sleelect committee is meeting and they will be deciding on whether to recommend mark meadows be held in ckcontet of congress. and you have this new report that put as spotlight on meadows. what is in this email about the national guard? >> yeah, he was suggesting that perhaps the national guard could be dispatched on january 6 to protect pro trump people. the question is what did he mean by that. this came in the aftermath of meadows cooperating with the committee. remember, he had turned over thousands of pages of documents to this committee but then he stopped cooperating amid pushback from donald trump, amid the release of his own book and said that he would not come before the january 6 committee and testify about anything that happened. instead this is why they are moving forward with this contempt citation. the question for the democrats, even though they will almost certainly have the votes tonight to advance this contempt referral to the full house and likely in a democratic-led house they will have enough votes to get it sent to the justice department. the question is whether they ever get clarity from mark meadows who has refused to testify and will the justice department charge him, another question going forward. >> manu, lauren, thank you guys. still ahead, we'll take you back to kentucky where the scale of the destruction there is frankly overwhelming. relief organizations are on the ground trying to bring the basics to thousands of families in need. we'll go back to john berman next. 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what was their condition? >> they was screaming and crying. and my little girl's hand was cut here, bloody. i don't know what do. i don't have a roof over my head. and my kids. >> reporter: many people are in the same scenario. thankfully they are grateful for the help from fema, from the national guard. we've seen teams that will continue to sift through the debris and make sure there are no signs of life that they have overlooked. >> those images all around you and hearing from the people, what is unique obviously about a tornado versus other severe weather, you've got 20 minutes if you are lucky to prepare once you are warned there and you have to take cover right away. you have to be very quick. anyway, nick valencia, thank you very much. joining me now is sack block, director of emergency response for world central kitchen. sam, just talk to me about what you and your team is providing not just here in mayfield but all over this area. >> yeah, as we do in all these situations, we provide a hot plate of food when it is needed most and it is more than just the food, but it is getting out there in the communities and showing them that somebody cares. >> so how many meals have you provided over the last few days? >> typically our operations will do anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000. and in this situation it is smaller pockets of need spread out across the state and as well as in illinois. so the numbers aren't that high at the moment, but we have teams going out sometimes door to door, a lot of people are hosting friends or family that have lost everything. and so we're going out into all these different communities. we have about 25 different food trucks and restaurant partners providing food as well in addition to the teams going out and finding the peoplople that really can't access the resources that they need. >> and it is not just about calories, the food itself. explain that a little more. >> we look at food as bringing a sense of normalcy as much as possible at least during that 340789 when somebody is sitting down to a hot plate of food. it is showing that somebody cares about them, you know. you wouldn't believe some of the reactions that you get when you knock on somebody's door and nobody has come and checked on them and they are like oh, somebody from the team is here checking on me and bringing me a plate of food. and it brings something special to people that really need it. >> and you've been on the road for years basically helping people like this. 40 different locations in the last couple years. >> uh-huh. >> what is unique or different about this, this outbreak of tornadoes? >> obviously the scale of the individual tornadoes, but then how many touched down in how many different communities. across such a large region. so that makes it unique. and every disaster is really unique. and our responses are unique to that disaster and to the community's needs. >> that is a good point. they don't just need meals here, they need meals 200 miles away. that is unusual. and i don't know if you can push in behind me, but there is that big crane working on what was a church back there behind me. and the reason i keep looking, it is not just people who have had their homes and businesses destroyed, but now mayfield is a construction zone. everywhere you look here, there is someone picking up and cleaning un. in a way it is a community at work that also needs to be fed. are you working with some of these people who are out here trying to clean up and rebuild at the same time? >> absolutely. since the day after, we've been feeding the rescue workers over at the candle factory, first responders, those are always up on the list as far as people who we can help take care of and them them do their job better. so not just the communities, but everybody that is a part of this long term ongoing response. >> everyone here is out doing something at this point. and it really is a remarkable sight to see. and remarkable to see you and your team do your work. what have you learned about people over the years doing this? >> you really see the best come out in people. you see a lot of neighbors helping neighbors. you know, we typically look at a first responder as somebody who is wearing specialty equipment, but your real first responders are your neighbors. and we see a lot of that here. like i said, a lot of the locations that we're providing hot meals to are small homes that have 20 or 30 people in it that have really opened their doors and let them come in. a lot of them still don't have water or electricity and won't for quite some time and they are not able to cook without water or electricity. so we're happy to be doing what we did. >> and i know that you'll be here next week, as long as they need it. thank you so much for what you do. >> thank you. for more information about how you can help tornado victims, go to cnn.com/impact. we'll have much more from here ahead. let's get back to kate in new york. john, i was just thinking how world central kitchen always shows up in these times of need and does such an important job. but it also is reminding me that you have covered so many natural disasters in your years of reporting. as you're kind of seeing the light of day, yet another day in this really unbelievable situation, what is sticking with you about this particular tragedy? >> i have to say, i keep saying it, i'm overwhelmed by how quickly they have responded here and how many people are out doing so many different things. most of the disasters i've covered are hurricanes and there tends to be water and sometimes it is harder to deal with the water damage right away and that is a little different than a tornado. but so much has been picked up here already. i'm not exaggerating, i'm looking around and if i scan like this, i mean there are people carrying metal, digging things out every direction you look in right now. you can see bowling green your state, across the region, people are just out cleaning up and they promise us here that they are not going to stop until it is done. it looks like there is an infinite amount of debris here and it won't go anywhere unless you start picking it up. and these people are just digging right in. it really is inspiring. >> and you heard it from world central kitchen, there is this determination and need to find hope and that is what they are doing, just putting one foot in front of the other as the governor said it today. thanks for being there, john, really. coming up still for us, the winter covid surge and what that really means now almost two years in. some states already going back to old protocols and mandates. details straight ahead. a triple-lift serum with pure collagen. 92% saw visibly firmer skin in just 4 weeks. neutrogena® for people with skin. people, with quickbooks live someone else will do your books for you. they'll even pair you with an expert bookkeeper like me, who knows your business. knows your business! expert bookkeepers who understand your business. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffing plan needs to go up a size. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire ♪ ♪ you are my fire ♪ ♪ the one desire ♪ ♪ you are, you are, ♪ ♪ don't wanna hear you say... ♪ ♪ ♪ i want it that way ♪ are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! starting today, masks are required once again in most indoor public spaces in new york state amid covid trends across the country. one measure to watch closely is hospitalizations and that number is up 42% from last month. leading a former fda commissioner to say mask mandates is one way to fight back against this trend. >> most of those cases right now are being driven by very dense epidemics in the great lakes region and new england. i think in those parts of the country it is prudent to take steps to control the spread. certain places where health care systems will beginning to get pressed and mask mandates are the easiest thing that we can do to put some downward pressure on spread. it would be a temporary measure to preserve the health care systems at this point. >> joining me for more is dr. craig spencer, director of global health and emergency medicine at columbia university medical center. good to see you. reinstating a mask requirement may feel like we're sliding back ward in this pandemic. is is that how it feels to you? what are you seeing right now in your hospital? >> thankfully right now the covid cases that i'm seeing are largely amongst the unvaccinated. here in new york we have had an uptick in recent weeks much like the rest of the country, but it hasn't overwhelmed our health system. but we have a lot of health care workers who are thankful that just about a year ago we started getting vaccinated and really over the past six months, eight months we've made vaccines broadly available. but we still have a large chunk of the population across the country that is not vaccinated, still a lot of people coming in with covid and a lot of health care workers are frankly really exhausted and i'm concerned about our ability to really weather another wave. >> yeah, especially if we're heading into another wave in the winter as we round out in what is the second year of us dealing with all this. and one thing that it speaks to as you are talking about vaccinations is something that you have long said that in order to truly beat back the pandemic, it is not just the united states, but it is the entire world that needs to be vaccinated. and there needs to be much more vow c focus on that. how would you describe how well that is going? >> we've seen a lot of improvements. we've seen the u.s. step up with a few initiatives getting hundreds of millions of doses out. we know that there is enough vaccines being made or there will be enough vaccine early next year. the problem is that it is still in the wrong places and we have places particularly sub saharan africa where only 7% of the population is vaccinated. we've seen the covax initiative has struggled to get the doses that it needs because countries like the u.s. and other wealthy western countries have been holding on to booster doses. the problem is that we've treated this like a domestic threat for way too long. we've put in place travel bans that are ineffective and stigmatize other countries as opposed to approaching this as an issue of global solidarity. and i think what omicron is going to show us, it is cliché, but we won't get out of this until we all get out of this together. we need to get more vaccines globally and do more to bring the rest of the world along with us. >> and dr. margaret harris was talking about this exact thing and she pushed back against the notion coming from folks like the ceo of moderna that there are enough shots out there but it is the individual countries, the poorer nations that are not getting shots in arms fast enough. let me play to you what dr. harris said, she called that myth. >> it is a bit of a convenient sm myth. what we're seeing in countries is not any difficulty actually with getting people to be vaccinated. the struggle is making sure that it is available in the right place at the right time so that people can get to it and so that it can get into people's arms. >> what do you think of that? >> i think that that is cent. lo correct. pharmaceutical companies have a motive by saying that it is not their fault. but it was over a year ago that south africa went to the world trade organization and said we need a waiver on vaccinetreatme pharmaceutical companies want to protect their intellectual property and now allow vaccines to be made in places like sub saharan africa where they are needed. they had to be sent to europe even though africa was facing their own covid crisis. we have seen that pharmaceutical companies have prioritized their profits and we have gotten some trickle down, but doses that arrive very late near expiration and when they get pitched, the world says they don't want those doses as opposed to saying we did a lot here in the u.s. to tackle logistics of getting vaccines in to rural hospitals in idaho, to tackle vaccine hesitancy. i think that the rest of the world needs to put the same effort into getting the world vaccinated and instead of throwing up our arms saying maybe they don't want them. >> everybody needs to focus more on exactly this or we won't get past this pandemic. great to see you, dr. spencer. coming up for us, an official visit by the israeli prime minister, details next. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. a mountain of toys to fulfill many wishes must be carried across all roads and all bridges. it's not magic that makes more holiday deliveries to homes in the us than anyone else, it's the hardworking people of the united states postal service. as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? 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schumer says december 31st that we would like to see this? >> i know people have been in a hurry for a long time to do this and basically we're seeing things that unfold that allows us to prepare better and that's what we should do, take advantage of what we're doing in a way to make sure how we do it and for what period of time we do it and something that we can maintain and manage. my grandfather used to say unmanaged debt will make a coward out of the decisions you make, and we're now at 29 trillion and we'll be pushing on to 30 trillion and i'm sure that mr. powell with the feds they want to make some decisions pretty son here, and i'm understanding that he is considering things that we've talked about, quantitative easing should be reduced or eliminated as quickly as possible, and -- and the interest rates are going to affect all of us if he has to increase interest to try to control. >> senator, what is your message going to be to president biden today when you talk? >> i don't have messages. i basically go and have conversations whenever the president calls me or wants to visit. we visit and talk genuinely as person to person, as two people who have had the experience of being in the senate, him much longer than mow and understanding this process, and being extremely respectful and very friendly. he's been a friend. >> senator graham said on friday that in conversations but you were stunned, that was his quote, but the modified cbo report that came out. is that even accurate? >> i've ben the penn-wharton report that we've been working with a lot of different people getting cross-sections of what really was a true figure and we've seen figures pretty high and when the cbo came back and confirmed that, cbo's figure was a bit higher, i think it's very sobering. >> do you believe -- do you believe that number? p. >> have you finalized your plans? are you going with the white house to meet with the president? >> i'm going today, either a phone call or i'm going over. both, later this afternoon or early this evening. >> and are you going to tell him when you want to do this bill now. >> we're going to talk about exactly what happened on friday with the cbo score and inflation reports and things of that sort, and i would like to hear theirs first, the president's first where he's at and what his concerns may. >> do you believe that cbo number? the white house says this is not offset, the spending, but republicans say this is the trust cost. do you believe this is the true cost? >> cbo is not a democrat or republican report. the congressional budget office, they are non-partisan and they will give it to us the facts whether we like it or not, and i've been very concerned because i've been seeing all the people. >> we weave been listening in right here to senator joe manchin speaking to reporters making very clear his concerns remain were the build back better plan, and when it comes to the overall cost over ten years. so much more to come on that. 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