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at the australian open, with dan evans through and heather watson out, and attention now turning to andy murray and emma radacanu, both due on court soon. good morning. it isa it is a cold enough —— cold and frosty starter. a few showers. for most it will be dry with lengthy sunny spells. details later in the programme. good morning. it's thursday, the 20th of january. our main story. secondary school pupils in england will no longer need to wear face coverings in classrooms from today, as the government's plan b measures are phased out. advice to work from home has also ended, and from next thursday, mandatory face masks in public places and covid passports will both be axed. simonjones has the details. face—to—face learning, but it will now be without the masks. from today, face coverings in the classroom in england can't come off, though unions are warning that coronavirus remains a challenge, with large numbers of staff and pupils absent. but the government is keen for us to learn to live with covid. in england, people are no longer advised to work from home. from next thursday, face coverings won't be required legally in any setting, though people are still advised to wear them in crowded places. and covid passports to get into nightclubs will be dropped, though venues can choose to carry on using them. the steps that we've announced represent a major milestone. but it's not the end of the road. and we shouldn't see this as the finish line, because we cannot eradicate this virus and its future variants. instead, we must learn to live with covid in the same way that we've learned to live with flu. some are wary of going too fast, too quickly. i think it is a bit too early, because cases are still very high. i think it's about time - they lift them, you know. it's been a long couple of years now of sitting about doing nothing. - i think i would keep it in transport and crowded places like shops. the royal college of nursing is warning that dropping plan b will do nothing to ease the pressure on the nhs. but the government believes the booster programme has made a real difference, and that the omicron wave has peaked. it will also look to end the legal requirement for people who test positive to self—isolate, and replace it with guidance by the end of march. from next week, many restrictions on hospitality in scotland will be lifted. in wales, nightclubs will be able to reopen. in northern ireland, ministers are set to consider relaxations. but all nations are urging caution, as they attempt to draw up long—term strategies for coexisting with the virus. simon jones, bbc news. downing street has said boris johnson will fight any challenge to his leadership of the conservative party. it follows a fiery day in the commons over the so—called partygate scandal, with one new mp defecting to the labour party, and a former cabinet minister calling for the prime minister to stand down. nick eardley reports. calm? there isn't much of it around here. westminster is tense about a report into what parties happened in downing street during lockdown, and how long borisjohnson will remain prime minister. yesterday, one conservative mp decided he'd had enough. christian wakeford joined the labour party, very publicly defecting on the floor of the house of commons. music to the ears of his new leader. can i start by warmly welcoming the honourable member for bury south to his new place in the house... cheering. ..and to the parliamentary labour party? mr speaker, like so many people up and down the country, he has concluded that the prime minister and the conservative party have shown themselves incapable of offering the leadership government this country deserves. a prime minister underfire from his own side too, but showing no signs he wants to go anywhere. and as for bury south, mr speaker, as for bury south, we will win again in bury south at the next election under this prime minister. but then listen to this, from one of his own mps, a former brexit ally. i expect my leaders to shoulder the responsibility for the actions they take. yesterday, he did the opposite of that. so i will remind him of a quotation. "you have sat there too long for all the good you have done. in the name of god, go." cheering. rumours are flying around here about whether the prime minister will face a confidence vote. the chances of that happening this week appear to have receded, and some think it would be a bad idea. colleagues are coming out now strongly and supporting the prime minister as the right man to lead our country. and on all the big decisions, you know, he's got the call right, whether it's covid, brexit, or creating the fastest—growing economy in the g7. but plenty of conservatives are angry. and some may move next week when a report into lockdown parties is published. and i think there is a real sense of stepping back and realising that the right thing to do is to wait for sue gray's report, to then question the prime minister, as he has quite properly said he will come to the house of commons and make a statement and answer for it. some hope borisjohnson survives, others aren't so sure. the prime minister's future is farfrom certain. nick eardley, bbc news, westminster. let's get the latest now from our chief political correspondent adam fleming. the story of yesterday was a very significant announcement about how we lead our lives which will be resonating with people today. in the long side of that scale, the discussion about the future of the prime minister?— discussion about the future of the prime minister? yeah, what a day. the words of _ prime minister? yeah, what a day. the words of the _ prime minister? yeah, what a day. the words of the speaker - prime minister? yeah, what a day. the words of the speaker of - prime minister? yeah, what a day. the words of the speaker of the i the words of the speaker of the house _ the words of the speaker of the house of— the words of the speaker of the house of commons, lindsay hoyle, overheard _ house of commons, lindsay hoyle, overheard on a microphone after the dramatic_ overheard on a microphone after the dramatic prime minister's questions. look at_ dramatic prime minister's questions. look at technically bad things that happened to the prime minister yesterday. a group of platters accelerated their plot because of how they — accelerated their plot because of how they had been treated their plot was first_ how they had been treated their plot was first uncovered at the night before — was first uncovered at the night before. then you had a conservative mp becoming a labour mp. and in a symbolic— mp becoming a labour mp. and in a symbolic seat because it was one of those _ symbolic seat because it was one of those northern seats that boris johnson — those northern seats that boris johnson won from labour that signified — johnson won from labour that signified what a winner he was. then you had _ signified what a winner he was. then you had david davis, very long serving — you had david davis, very long serving mp, still quite influential in the _ serving mp, still quite influential in the party, really sticking the knife _ in the party, really sticking the knife in — in the party, really sticking the knife in and twisting it with a quote — knife in and twisting it with a quote from the second world war. but the net _ quote from the second world war. but the net result of all of that is that— the net result of all of that is that the _ the net result of all of that is that the prime minister has ended up in a slightly— that the prime minister has ended up in a slightly stronger position than he was _ in a slightly stronger position than he was the — in a slightly stronger position than he was the day before because it has promoted _ he was the day before because it has prompted party unity. some of the prime _ prompted party unity. some of the prime minister' colleagues have stepped — prime minister' colleagues have stepped back from the brink. also, the prime — stepped back from the brink. also, the prime minister has been lucky in that his _ the prime minister has been lucky in that his opponents have not been able to— that his opponents have not been able to galvanise enough of their colleagues to come with them to call for the _ colleagues to come with them to call for the prime minister to go. so it kind of— for the prime minister to go. so it kind of looks like a bit of a victory— kind of looks like a bit of a victory for boris johnson at the end of att— victory for boris johnson at the end of all of— victory for boris johnson at the end of all of that. but it only looks like a — of all of that. but it only looks like a victory because the measure of success— like a victory because the measure of success at the moment is the prime _ of success at the moment is the prime minister surviving. and also, i prime minister surviving. and also, i can't _ prime minister surviving. and also, i can't escape the feeling that all of ican't escape the feeling that all of this— i can't escape the feeling that all of this week is kind of a little bit unreat— of this week is kind of a little bit unreal because all of this could change — unreal because all of this could change when sue gray delivers her report— change when sue gray delivers her report into — change when sue gray delivers her report into lockdown busting parties in whitehall. that could change a lot of— in whitehall. that could change a lot of people's mines and this could happen— lot of people's mines and this could happen att— lot of people's mines and this could happen all overagain, but happen all over again, but multiplied happen all overagain, but multiplied kind of ten times. happen all over again, but multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank ou. multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank yom we _ multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank you. we will _ multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank you. we will be _ multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank you. we will be speaking - multiplied kind of ten times. adam, thank you. we will be speaking to l thank you. we will be speaking to the health secretary, sajid javid, at half past seven. on those changes in restrictions. labour shadow chancellor rachel reeves joining us after seven o'clock. those interviews coming up later. nine minutes past _ interviews coming up later. nine minutes past six. _ president biden has said he thinks russia will move in on ukraine, but has warned that the us will inflict significant harm on moscow in response. mr biden said he did not think the russian leader wanted a full—blown war. gary o'donoghue has this report. gunfire. ever since russia began its build—up of troops on the ukrainian border, america has been threatening wide ranging economic sanctions, if vladimir putin went ahead with an invasion. now the us president is predicting that his russian counterpart will make a move on ukraine, testing the west. and while us troops would not be involved, the president said the consequences would be deadly. the cost of going into ukraine in terms of physical loss of life for the russians — and they will be able to prevail over time, but it's going to be heavy. it's going to be real. it's going to be consequential. at home, the administration's handling of covid has been severely criticised, particularly for the slow response on the testing. now a billion tests will be available for americans to take at home, and the president promised no more lockdowns. i'm not going to give up and accept things as they are now. some people may call what happening now the new normal. i call it a job not yet finished. it will get better. we are moving toward a time when covid—i9 won't disrupt our daily lives. the president claimed credit for bringing unemployment down, and passing covid relief and infrastructure legislation. but with inflation high, and other bills being blocked, he blamed republicans for not getting more done. i did not anticipate that there'd be such a stalwart effort to make sure that the most important thing was that president biden didn't get anything done. joe biden believes his first year has seen important progress on the economy, on covid and on infrastructure. but with key parts of its legislative programme mired in congress, and a looming crisis with russia, there are huge challenges ahead, not least those mid—term elections in november. gary o'donoghue, bbc news at the white house. a man in his thirties has been remanded in custody, after being charged with the murder of irish teacher ashling murphy. the 23—year—old was killed last week, while she was out running along a canal path. jozef puska will appear in court again on 26 january. vigils have been held across ireland and the world to remember ms murphy, and to call for a change in tackling gender—based violence. the first foreign aid plane has arrived in tonga, carrying much—needed water and supplies for the pacific nation. it comes as new pictures have emerged showing the scale of devastation, following saturday's eruption of an undersea volcano, with cars, roads and buildings covered by a thick layer of ash. at least three people are now known to have died, including one british national. in about ten minutes we'll be joined by the tongan olympic champion pita taufatofua, who is one of those waiting for news of his loved ones. a lot of people worried because communication is very poor. we will find out more in a few minutes. �*iz find out more in a few minutes. i2 minutes past six. good morning. it is a chilly morning. certainly chilly here in salford. carol as the weather. bright day maybe? weather. briuhtda ma be? bright day maybe? morning. good morninu. bright day maybe? morning. good morning- naga — bright day maybe? morning. good morning. naga is _ bright day maybe? morning. good morning. naga is right _ bright day maybe? morning. good morning. naga is right on - bright day maybe? morning. good morning. naga is right on all- morning. naga is right on all counts. it is a chilly start. temperatures last night in rural parts of oxfordshire fell to “4. where we have got the showers this morning there is the risk of ice on untreated surfaces. some freezing fog currently is well about manchester airport. fog currently is well about manchesterairport. for fog currently is well about manchester airport. for most it is going to be a sunny day but a chilly one. wintry across the four north of mainland scotland. showers down the east coast into norfolk and suffolk. some of those could be wintry in the north york moors. wintry showers in westwards and caught multi start with but they were pushed out into the sea. a lot of dry weather, a lot of winter sunshine. but it will feel cold. it is windy as well. wendy particularly in the north and east. parts of the west also having gusty winds. if you are exposed to the winds. if you are exposed to the wind in the east, it will feel quite raw. this evening and overnight we will see more cloud in the north and west, thick enough for a light rain or drizzle. most will be dry. temperatures falling away. a widespread frost. we could also see some mace and fog patches in south—west scotland and north—west england. they should lift tomorrow. tomorrow is similar to today. a lot of cloud with rain and drizzle in the north and west. the winds will be lighter. a lot of dry weather, lack of sunshine, feeling cold. we are one. thank you. timely, actually. household energy bills are widely expected to go up again in april, and yesterday, the boss of the bank of england warned higher prices could be here to stay well into next year. ben's taking a look for us. this is a real issue for people, isn't it? people's bills going up and alarm bells about what is going to happen around the corner? very much so. another day, another serious _ very much so. another day, another serious warning. people already experiencing this. this morning from the governor of the bank of england. good morning. there is intense pressure — good morning. there is intense pressure on household budgets at the moment _ there's intense pressure on household budgets at the moment. we saw those inflation figures rise again yesterday. one of the big things squeezing our finances is energy prices. we've already been warned to expect further increases in our bills this spring, when the price cap is likely to be lifted. at the moment it'sjust over £1200 a year. that's based on average usage. you might well pay more, if you use more than the average amount of gas or electricity. industry experts reckon bills might go up by another £600 or £700 when the cap rises again. that's bad news for people like tina from reading, who is already struggling. the energy increase is going to probably— the energy increase is going to probably crippte _ the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. _ the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. it - the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. it will - the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. it will be l the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. it will be a j probably cripple us. it will be a case _ probably cripple us. it will be a case of— probably cripple us. it will be a case of working _ probably cripple us. it will be a case of working out _ probably cripple us. it will be a case of working out what - probably cripple us. it will be a case of working out what we i probably cripple us. it will be a i case of working out what we can probably cripple us. it will be a - case of working out what we can just cut back _ case of working out what we can just cut back and — case of working out what we can just cut back and cut _ case of working out what we can just cut back and cut back. _ case of working out what we can just cut back and cut back. might- case of working out what we can just cut back and cut back. might have i case of working out what we can just cut back and cut back. might have to do it so— cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we _ cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't— cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have _ cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have it— cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have it on- cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have it on in- cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have it on in the i do it so we don't have it on in the morning — do it so we don't have it on in the morning or— do it so we don't have it on in the morning or the _ do it so we don't have it on in the morning or the evening, - do it so we don't have it on in the morning or the evening, or- do it so we don't have it on in the morning or the evening, or not. do it so we don't have it on in the i morning or the evening, or not have it on— morning or the evening, or not have it on at— morning or the evening, or not have it on at ait~ — morning or the evening, or not have it on at all. that _ morning or the evening, or not have it on at all. that is _ morning or the evening, or not have it on at all. that is really— morning or the evening, or not have it on at all. that is really scary. - it on at all. that is really scary. that _ it on at all. that is really scary. that is — it on at all. that is really scary. that is realty— it on at all. that is really scary. that is really upsetting - it on at all. that is really scary. that is really upsetting me - it on at all. that is really scary. i that is really upsetting me quite a lot. that is really upsetting me quite a lot me _ that is really upsetting me quite a lot me heing _ that is really upsetting me quite a lot. me being disabled, _ that is really upsetting me quite a lot. me being disabled, i'm - that is really upsetting me quite a lot. me being disabled, i'm only. that is really upsetting me quite al lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits _ lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits i— lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits. i have _ lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits. i have only— lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits. i have only got _ lot. me being disabled, i'm only on benefits. i have only got my- benefits. i have only got my husband's _ benefits. i have only got my husband's wage. _ benefits. i have only got my husband's wage. there - benefits. i have only got my husband's wage. there is. benefits. i have only got my. husband's wage. there is only benefits. i have only got my- husband's wage. there is only so much _ husband's wage. there is only so much we — husband's wage. there is only so much we can— husband's wage. there is only so much we can give. _ husband's wage. there is only so much we can give. —— _ husband's wage. there is only so much we can give. —— they- husband's wage. there is only so much we can give. —— they can i husband's wage. there is only so i much we can give. —— they can give. we cant— much we can give. —— they can give. we can't get — much we can give. —— they can give. we can't getany— much we can give. —— they can give. we can't get any more _ much we can give. —— they can give. we can't get any more benefits - we can't get any more benefits because — we can't get any more benefits because he _ we can't get any more benefits because he is— we can't get any more benefits because he is working. - we can't get any more benefits because he is working. we - we can't get any more benefits because he is working. we are| we can't get any more benefits - because he is working. we are pushed back on— because he is working. we are pushed back on that _ because he is working. we are pushed back on that as — because he is working. we are pushed back on that as well. _ because he is working. we are pushed back on that as well. we _ because he is working. we are pushed back on that as well. we are _ back on that as well. we are stuck between _ back on that as well. we are stuck between a — back on that as well. we are stuck between a rock— back on that as well. we are stuck between a rock and _ back on that as well. we are stuck between a rock and a _ back on that as well. we are stuck between a rock and a hard - back on that as well. we are stuck between a rock and a hard place, i between a rock and a hard place, i'll between a rock and a hard place, i'ii he _ between a rock and a hard place, i'ii be totally— between a rock and a hard place, i'll be totally honest. _ it's not just tina who's worried. according to the debt charity stepchange, nearly nine million people borrowed £26 billion in total just to cover their basic needs in the past year. the number of people finding it hard to keep up with their bills and credit has doubled since the start of the pandemic. and the latest warning is that the squeeze on energy bills is likely to go on for much longer. this man, andrew bailey, the governor of the bank of england, told mps yesterday that prices may stay high until the middle of next year. part of the reason is rising tensions between russia and ukraine. russia supplies about half of the eu's natural gas imports, so problems can push up prices for everyone. yesterday, the official inflation measure reached its highest level in 30 years. that 5.4% figure masks the reality though that some products on the supermarket shelves will have gone up by a lot more. the bank of england governor's comments matter because the bank had hoped high prices would be temporary. now there's a fear things could last longer than expected. so, a lot of pressure from all sides for the government to step in. they told us the energy price cap was helping protect people from even bigger price rises, and that they were listening to consumers and businesses about how to manage the costs of energy. this is something businesses are feeling _ this is something businesses are feeling as— this is something businesses are feeling as well. they are facing higher— feeling as well. they are facing higher energy bills and they still needed — higher energy bills and they still needed to pay their staff. their ditemma — needed to pay their staff. their dilemma is how much they can pass on to customers, — dilemma is how much they can pass on to customers, feeling the pinchjust as much— to customers, feeling the pinchjust as much as — to customers, feeling the pinchjust as much as they are. ben, _ as much as they are. ben, thank you. we also have the prospect of higher interest rates, which will hit borrowing costs. indeed. anyone would credit, makes it more _ indeed. anyone would credit, makes it more expensive. let's take a look at today's papers. the tory former minister, david davis, is pictured on the front of several papers, including the daily telegraph, after he told borisjohnson he should quit in the commons yesterday. the guardian says mr davis caused shock waves, during a dramatic day in westminster. mrjohnson's supporters claim he now has the breathing space to fight back, although the paper estimates as many as 30 letters of no confidence may now have been submitted. meanwhile, the metro focuses on the ending of the advice to work from home in england. millions of workers will return to offices today, says the metro, adding that it is a "timetable back to normality after two years of coronavirus chaos". and the bbc news website this morning has the story that some people in england and wales are waiting two years for check—up with a dentist. later this morning, we'll hear from one woman who claims she can't get an appointment, and she's been in pain for a year. there is nothing worse, really. i am very lucky. i don't sufferfrom toothache but when i see people suffer from toothache, toothache but when i see people sufferfrom toothache, it toothache but when i see people suffer from toothache, it is so debilitating. it's one of those things you can't legislate for the pain. it things you can't legislate for the ain. , ., , , ., things you can't legislate for the ain. , ., pain. it will stop you from operating _ pain. it will stop you from operating normally. - pain. it will stop you from | operating normally. those pain. it will stop you from - operating normally. those delays must be so alarming for people if they know they have got issues. we will talk more about that. if you had problems yourself, get in touch. not on a technical note, because we won't be able to help! but you have our sympathies. maybe doing food for the kids, or the family, what are we having for dinner tonight? what are we pointing for dinner tonight, is the prospect i bring you. 3d printed fish. this is a company based in israel, a start—up company. they have created this fill it which is a three b —— 3d printer to fill it of fish. ii three b -- 3d printer to fill it of fish. ., , ., three b -- 3d printer to fill it of fish. . , ., , . ., fish. if that is a picture of it, it looks very _ fish. if that is a picture of it, it looks very salmon _ fish. if that is a picture of it, it looks very salmon like. - fish. if that is a picture of it, it looks very salmon like. here l fish. if that is a picture of it, it| looks very salmon like. here is fish. if that is a picture of it, it - looks very salmon like. here is the thin. looks very salmon like. here is the thing. obviously _ looks very salmon like. here is the thing. obviously the _ looks very salmon like. here is the thing. obviously the methodologyl looks very salmon like. here is the l thing. obviously the methodology is they have put a plant —based products into the 3d printer. it comes up with the fillets of fish. you say about the look of it. the people making it at any moment to say the hardest thing to get right, taste tests have gone well, but the texture, they say, is the most challenging to get right because even though they have reconstructed the fill it in such a way that it looks like fish, the texture is what they are struggling with. what we pointing for dinner? it doesn't have the same ring about it. that pointing for dinner? it doesn't have the same ring about it.— pointing for dinner? it doesn't have the same ring about it. at least you know where — the same ring about it. at least you know where it _ the same ring about it. at least you know where it is _ the same ring about it. at least you know where it is coming _ the same ring about it. at least you know where it is coming from. - the same ring about it. at least you know where it is coming from. it. know where it is coming from. it feels like ages ago, christmas. the christmas break. but typically, i think, when it possible we indulge over christmas, eat a bit more, lie in, yeah kind? did over christmas, eat a bit more, lie in, yeah kind?— in, yeah kind? did you do that? absolutely _ in, yeah kind? did you do that? absolutely. put _ in, yeah kind? did you do that? absolutely. put on _ in, yeah kind? did you do that? absolutely. put on a _ in, yeah kind? did you do that? absolutely. put on a few - in, yeah kind? did you do that? i absolutely. put on a few pounds? in, yeah kind? did you do that? - absolutely. put on a few pounds? no. well, absolutely. put on a few pounds? no. well. some — absolutely. put on a few pounds? no. well. some of— absolutely. put on a few pounds? no. well, some of the state, including a couple of armadillos. these are twins. patsy and eddy, named of course after the fabulous characters in abfab. this is according to the zoo keepers. i am not body shaming and armadillo or anything like that. their handlers say they spent much of the festive series —— season staying up all night, scoffing and having monster lions. they have put on a kilo each. and when you look at the size of an armadillo, and please don't ask me what a typical armadillo ways, that is quite a lot. what is the typical weight of an armadillo? ., what is the typical weight of an armadillo?— what is the typical weight of an armadillo? . ., ., armadillo? can someone look that up? if i nut armadillo? can someone look that up? if! ut a armadillo? can someone look that up? lfl put a kilo — armadillo? can someone look that up? lfl put a kilo on. _ armadillo? can someone look that up? lfl put a kilo on. i _ armadillo? can someone look that up? if i put a kilo on, i would _ armadillo? can someone look that up? if! put a kilo on, i would notice - if i put a kilo on, i would notice it. so what is happening now, they are being put on a diet. [30 it. so what is happening now, they are being put on a diet.— are being put on a diet. do you think the main _ are being put on a diet. do you think the main reason - are being put on a diet. do you think the main reason they - are being put on a diet. do you| think the main reason they have are being put on a diet. do you - think the main reason they have gone for that story is so they can write that headline? edi for that story is so they can write that headline?— that headline? of course. absolutely. _ that headline? of course. absolutely. they - that headline? of course. absolutely. they are - that headline? of course. absolutely. they are in i that headline? of course. - absolutely. they are in alfriston in east sussex. the average weight of an armadillo. the average weight is five kilos. they've put on like 20% more weight. what they are going to have to do now is go out a bit more. they are going to be more active and thatis they are going to be more active and that is going to bring their weight down. and they are going to have extra physical activities. armadillo activities. can you imagine the little physical assault course? a reduction in their diet. they eat mealworms and crickets, largely. did you know, if you were to say which family armadillos come from, what would you say?— family armadillos come from, what would you say?_ why - family armadillos come from, what i would you say?_ why would would you say? crocodile. why would ou sa would you say? crocodile. why would you say crocodile? _ would you say? crocodile. why would you say crocodile? they _ would you say? crocodile. why would you say crocodile? they have - would you say? crocodile. why would you say crocodile? they have got - would you say? crocodile. why would you say crocodile? they have got to l you say crocodile? they have got to be exterior — you say crocodile? they have got to be exterior shell. _ you say crocodile? they have got to be exterior shell. slops. _ you say crocodile? they have got to be exterior shell. slops. i— you say crocodile? they have got to be exterior shell. slops. i didn't - be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that- _ be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that- l— be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that. i didn't _ be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that. i didn't know - be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that. i didn't know we - be exterior shell. slops. i didn't know that. i didn't know we hadj be exterior shell. slops. i didn't i know that. i didn't know we had an expert on armadillos in the gallery. now i know we will have many more questions in your direction. send our questions in your direction. send your armadillo _ questions in your direction. send your armadillo questions - questions in your direction. (run your armadillo questions in. 23 minutes past six. the coast of tahiti in "pristine" condition. a research mission, led by unesco, made the find at a depth of more than 30 metres, and it's hoped that this discovery may mean there are many more coral reefs waiting to be found in the oceans. our science correspondent victoria gill has more. magical. that was the word a veteran specialist diver who led this mission it used to describe this view. some of these corals are more than two metres wide and the whole reef structure stretches three kilometres along the sea bed. its depth and distance from the coast is thought to be a key reason for its pristine condition. researchers say it shows no signs of damage from pollution or ocean warming temperatures, something that poses a major threat to shallower reefs. it looks beautiful but high important is this scientifically? it looks beautiful but high important is this scientifically?— is this scientifically? it might lead us to — is this scientifically? it might lead us to discover _ is this scientifically? it might lead us to discover reefs i is this scientifically? it might lead us to discover reefs in i is this scientifically? it might i lead us to discover reefs in the world of more than 30 metres. so from that perspective this is opening a new insight in science. this could suggest that we have many more at large reefs in our ocean adding depth to 30 metres, which we do not know about. it is adding depth to 30 metres, which we do not know about.— do not know about. it is often said we know more _ do not know about. it is often said we know more about _ do not know about. it is often said we know more about the - do not know about. it is often said we know more about the service i do not know about. it is often said | we know more about the service of the moon than we do about the ocean floor. only about one fifth of it has so far been mapped. this discovery is part of a larger mission to fill in those gaps in our ocean knowledge. coral reefs like this are the hotspots for marine life. about a quarter of ocean species can be found around these living ecosystems. the team is now planning more investigative dives to work out what lives here and crucially, how their remarkable newly discovered habitat can be protected. victoria gill, bbc news. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. people in london will still need to wear a mask on tubes, buses and trams despite the lifting of restrictions across other transport networks due next week. yesterday prime minister borisjohnson announced the removal of restrictions for people using shops, restuarants, or public transport from next week. but the mayor of london sadiq khan says masks are still needed due to the continuing threat of omicron. around 30 per cent of londoners are unvaccinated. the number of nhs dentists in london fell by around 10 per cent last year according nhs figures — with the british dental association describing dentistry as "hanging by a thread." some people are waiting for up to two years for routine check—ups. nhs england says there was additionalfunding during the pandemic and hundreds of urgent dental centres were set up across england. a number of london mp's have written to the royal mail to express concern over delays to deliveries in parts of the capital. some londoners are only now starting to receive post sent before christmas. royal mail says the problems are only affecting a small number of areas and are the result of staff shortages caused by the pandemic. you may recognise him from playing the cello at prince harry and meghan markle's wedding, now sheku kanneh—mason has gone back to school to inspire children. the charity london music masters helps bring music lessons to primary schools across the capital — and this one in southwark — was lucky enough to get a master class from him. with the music, there is so much spontaneity required to be able to together with the children and for them to hear my sound up close, hopefully when they come to practice again, they can remember the sound they have heard. just the part closure of the northern line until mid may for major works. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. a few splashes of rain yesterday and it felt milder but today we are back into the chilly air and high pressure building from the west set to keep us dry as we head through the rest of the week and there will be some more frosty nights to come in more fog returning over the weekend. visibility not too bad this morning but there is a widespread frost to start the morning and temperatures have dipped below freezing for many of us and we will see a lot of blue sky and sunshine and a pretty winters day but feeling cold with a chilly northerly wind and temperatures not getting past amid single figures or for five celsius for most. as we head for the evening and overnight there will be a widespread sharp frost and temperatures for many away from the towns might drop as low as —3 or minus four celsius and perhaps a mist forming on friday. on friday the high pressure is firmly with us and that will keep us dry, and we have milder airfeeding around it as well and there will be a bit more in the way of cloud and the high pressure will last as we head for the weekend so it is dry and that will see a return to the misty, foggy mornings and where we see the foggy mornings and where we see the fog it will be very slow to lift and clear. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. now though it's back to naga and charlie. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. coming up on breakfast this morning. we'll hear about new the colony of penguins spotted on the move in antarctica — after climate change hit their icy habitat. martin clunes will tell us about swimming with sharks for his new tv show about the "islands of the pacific" — a trip inspired by a book his father gave him as a child. and rose ayling—ellis brought pure magic to the strictly ballroom — now she's inspired a change to the live tour too. we'll hear how the show will have a sign language interpreter for the first time when it hits the road tonight — and we'll be joined by strictly star sara davies too. international aid efforts have been stepped up in response to saturday's volcanic eruption and tsunami off the coast of tonga, which has left the island nation largely cut—off from the outside world. the tongan taekwondo olympic champion pita taufatofua is one of those waiting for news of loved ones, and joins us now from brisbane. good morning to you. i know you have a number of family members who have not been able to make contact with. take us through who that is, if you don't mind, who was there take us through who that is, if you don't mind, who was there and take us through who that is, if you don't mind, who was there and who are your concerns?— don't mind, who was there and who are your concerns? good morning to eve one are your concerns? good morning to everyone out — are your concerns? good morning to everyone out there. _ are your concerns? good morning to everyone out there. at _ are your concerns? good morning to everyone out there. at the - are your concerns? good morning to everyone out there. at the moment| everyone out there. at the moment i've everyone out there. at the moment we got— everyone out there. at the moment i've got family in the outer islands and i've _ i've got family in the outer islands and i've heard from them and they are doing — and i've heard from them and they are doing 0k and i haven't heard from _ are doing 0k and i haven't heard from my— are doing 0k and i haven't heard from my father who is on the main island _ from my father who is on the main island it's— from my father who is on the main island. it's been three days now and i island. it's been three days now and i didn't— island. it's been three days now and ididn't hear— island. it's been three days now and i didn't hear from him since before the tsunami — i didn't hear from him since before the tsunami hit that there are many tongans— the tsunami hit that there are many tongans in— the tsunami hit that there are many tongans in a — the tsunami hit that there are many tongans in a similar position to me. that is— tongans in a similar position to me. that is very— tongans in a similar position to me. that is very uncomfortable position for you to be in and i hope you are able make contact. have you heard anything about the area where your father is in terms of how it has been effected through other sources? i haven't heard of that specific village, — i haven't heard of that specific village, and our home is right on the water— village, and our home is right on the water in _ village, and our home is right on the water in the lagoon, so i'm optimistic— the water in the lagoon, so i'm optimistic that he is ok but there is no _ optimistic that he is ok but there is no confirmationjust optimistic that he is ok but there is no confirmation just yet and i'm sure _ is no confirmation just yet and i'm sure he's— is no confirmation just yet and i'm sure he's out— is no confirmation just yet and i'm sure he's out there working hard, doing _ sure he's out there working hard, doing what— sure he's out there working hard, doing what he does but we've not been _ doing what he does but we've not been able — doing what he does but we've not been able to get through to him and the communication has been nonexistent, basically. you talked about members _ nonexistent, basically. you talked about members of— nonexistent, basically. you talked about members of your _ nonexistent, basically. you talked about members of your family i nonexistent, basically. you talked about members of your family on | nonexistent, basically. you talked i about members of your family on the other islands and a lot of people will be trying to catch up with some of the geography of the pacific islands. can you tell us about how the situation is where they were and how they were affected? thea;r the situation is where they were and how they were affected?— the situation is where they were and how they were affected? they were on the islands which _ how they were affected? they were on the islands which are _ how they were affected? they were on the islands which are 130 _ how they were affected? they were on the islands which are 130 kilometres i the islands which are 130 kilometres of the _ the islands which are 130 kilometres of the main — the islands which are 130 kilometres of the main island and that consist of the main island and that consist of something like 50 islands. so what _ of something like 50 islands. so what had — of something like 50 islands. so what had happened was the volcanic ash cloud _ what had happened was the volcanic ash cloud completely covered all of the islands of tonga, hundred and 70 or so, _ the islands of tonga, hundred and 70 or so, and _ the islands of tonga, hundred and 70 or so, and the tsunami mostly impact, — or so, and the tsunami mostly impact, or— or so, and the tsunami mostly impact, orthe or so, and the tsunami mostly impact, or the largest impact were to the _ impact, or the largest impact were to the western side, that were completely wiped out, where every house _ completely wiped out, where every house was — completely wiped out, where every house was removed or wiped out. many of these islands _ house was removed or wiped out. many of these islands are _ house was removed or wiped out. many of these islands are a _ house was removed or wiped out. many of these islands are a very _ house was removed or wiped out. ij�*iafiy of these islands are a very remote and there have been real problems in getting aid out there. what do you know about the operation? there's a number of aid _ know about the operation? there's a number of aid packages _ know about the operation? there's a number of aid packages starting i know about the operation? there's a number of aid packages starting to l number of aid packages starting to trickle _ number of aid packages starting to trickle in _ number of aid packages starting to trickle in and we've been trying to .et trickle in and we've been trying to get awareness to this catastrophe that has— get awareness to this catastrophe that has happened in tonga and i personally have started a fundraiser to help _ personally have started a fundraiser to help raise money for a needy need for schools— to help raise money for a needy need for schools and hospitals but there's — for schools and hospitals but there's also governments who are seeing _ there's also governments who are seeing the — there's also governments who are seeing the extent of the devastation in tonga _ seeing the extent of the devastation in tonga and starting to reach out and try— in tonga and starting to reach out and try to — in tonga and starting to reach out and try to help our little country. 0bviously — and try to help our little country. obviously it's not a possibility at the moment but will you, peter, be hoping to get out there yourself at some point? if i hoping to get out there yourself at some point?— some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat — some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat and _ some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat and my _ some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat and my paddles - some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat and my paddles were i some point? if! had a bit more fuel in my boat and my paddles were a i some point? if! had a bit more fuel. in my boat and my paddles were a bit bigger. _ in my boat and my paddles were a bit bigger. i_ in my boat and my paddles were a bit bigger, i would in my boat and my paddles were a bit bigger, iwould have paddled in my boat and my paddles were a bit bigger, i would have paddled across the pacific— bigger, i would have paddled across the pacific but it's very difficult to get— the pacific but it's very difficult to get there at the moment and also we have, _ to get there at the moment and also we have, because of covid, tonga has had one _ we have, because of covid, tonga has had one case — we have, because of covid, tonga has had one case in quarantine in the last two— had one case in quarantine in the last two years, so there are something of a restriction to enter the country— something of a restriction to enter the country which makes it more difficult — the country which makes it more difficult but i completely understand that from the tongan side but if i _ understand that from the tongan side but if i could paddle across their today— but if i could paddle across their today i— but if i could paddle across their today i would. 3000 kilometres is a bit beyond — today i would. 3000 kilometres is a bit beyond what i can do.— bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish ou bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well _ bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well and _ bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well and i _ bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well and i hope _ bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well and i hope you - bit beyond what i can do. peter, we wish you well and i hope you hear i wish you well and i hope you hear from your father soon and you get the news that you need. thank you so much for talking to us this morning. thank you so much for having me. as we've been hearing, borisjohnson has announced that england's �*plan b' restrictions are to be scrapped. the government is no longer asking people in england to work from home. face coverings are no longer compulsory in secondary school classrooms from today — and guidance about using them in communal areas will soon be updated. for everyone else, from next thursday — face coverings will not be required by law — though advice remains to wear one in enclosed and crowded spaces. also from next thursday, you won't need a covid pass to gain entry to nightclubs and large events. those who test positive will still need to self—isolate — but this could be phased out by the end of march. breakfast'sjohn maguire has been speaking to people in bristol to see how the changes have gone down there. as from today, the visible smiles are back in the classroom. in common with every other school, here in south gloucestershire at the kings oak academy in kingswood, they have dealt with a lot in the last two years. pupils and staff understand the public health and need behind face coverings but, when we spoke yesterday, they are looking forward to seeing the back of them. lantigen to seeing the back of them. when teachers are _ to seeing the back of them. when teachers are wearing _ to seeing the back of them. when teachers are wearing masks, i to seeing the back of them. when teachers are wearing masks, is i teachers are wearing masks, is difficult to hear them and when we are wearing masks it is difficult for them to hear us so we have to keep on repeating and repeating. it's really difficult because the teacher, — it's really difficult because the teacher, they can't see which student, _ teacher, they can't see which student, they might not remember who is who— student, they might not remember who is who and _ student, they might not remember who is who and especially with a mask on, is who and especially with a mask on. you _ is who and especially with a mask on, you can't see who they are. wearing — on, you can't see who they are. wearing a — on, you can't see who they are. wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like, wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like. if— wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like. if you _ wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like. if you like — wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like, if you like say— wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like, if you like say something - wearing a mask is not that bad, but, like, if you like say something it's. like, if you like say something it's hard _ like, if you like say something it's hard for— like, if you like say something it's hard for other— like, if you like say something it's hard for other people _ like, if you like say something it's hard for other people to - like, if you like say something it's hard for other people to hear- like, if you like say something it's hard for other people to hear you | hard for other people to hear you say sometimes _ hard for other people to hear you say sometimes you _ hard for other people to hear you say sometimes you have - hard for other people to hear you say sometimes you have to - hard for other people to hear you say sometimes you have to pull. hard for other people to hear you | say sometimes you have to pull it down _ say sometimes you have to pull it down for— say sometimes you have to pull it down for them _ say sometimes you have to pull it down for them to _ say sometimes you have to pull it down for them to who _ say sometimes you have to pull it down for them to who you - say sometimes you have to pull it i down for them to who you properly. it down for them to who you properly. it has _ down for them to who you properly. it has been — down for them to who you properly. it has been quite _ down for them to who you properly. it has been quite difficult _ down for them to who you properly. it has been quite difficult wearing i it has been quite difficult wearing them in lessons because it's quite difficult understanding what the teachers are saying. the difficult understanding what the teachers are saying.— teachers are saying. the head teachers are saying. the head teacher here _ teachers are saying. the head teacher here says _ teachers are saying. the head teacher here says she - teachers are saying. the head teacher here says she has i teachers are saying. the head l teacher here says she has been impressed by everyone's compliance but masks do mean another obstacle for successful learning.— for successful learning. we've all realised how _ for successful learning. we've all realised how much _ for successful learning. we've all realised how much we _ for successful learning. we've all realised how much we rely i for successful learning. we've all realised how much we rely on i for successful learning. we've all realised how much we rely on lip| realised how much we rely on lip reading, facial expressions and queues and being able to interact with students and other adults and we had to learn to be expressive with our eyes almost to be able to communicate our ideas and suggestions and expectations. the advice to work from home where possible has already ended and from next thursday, face coverings will no longer be compulsory on public transport. so, passengers will be able to use their own discretion. because of a slew get on the bus and someone says you should have it on, haveit someone says you should have it on, have it not on, and keep it on until everyone else has not got it. i will! everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. _ everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. i _ everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. i always _ everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. i always obey, i everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. i always obey, so whatever— do as i'm told. i always obey, so whatever the rules are, i have to follow _ whatever the rules are, i have to follow. , . ~ ., whatever the rules are, i have to follow. , . . ., , ., ., follow. restrictive. would you wear one next week _ follow. restrictive. would you wear one next week if _ follow. restrictive. would you wear one next week if didn't _ follow. restrictive. would you wear one next week if didn't have i follow. restrictive. would you wear one next week if didn't have two? l one next week if didn't have two? i'd prefer not to. i’d one next week if didn't have two? i'd prefer not to.— i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer to wear one _ i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer to wear one because _ i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer to wear one because of— i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer to wear one because of the i i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer to wear one because of the virus. i'd prefer not to. i'd always prefer. to wear one because of the virus but i doubt a lot of people will, so i think it's a good thing common to be honest, guys. it keeps us safe. for me, it is a must. eat honest, guys. it keeps us safe. for me, it is a must.— me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, — me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they _ me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they have _ me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they have sold - me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they have sold out i me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they have sold out of. in bristol, they have sold out of facemasks and will not be ordering any more as we won't have to wear them in shops other enclosed spaces. whereas the intention is to help customers feel safe, here, too, face coverings can be a barrier to human interactions. i coverings can be a barrier to human interactions-— interactions. i would like people to do whatever _ interactions. i would like people to do whatever they _ interactions. i would like people to do whatever they are _ interactions. i would like people to do whatever they are comfortable l do whatever they are comfortable with. people will feel more relaxed when they're not wearing them but the people who are anxious will carry on wearing them. it’s the people who are anxious will carry on wearing them.- the people who are anxious will carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when — carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when you _ carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when you are _ carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when you are wearing i carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when you are wearing a - carry on wearing them. it's a tricky. thing when you are wearing a mask. it stops _ thing when you are wearing a mask. it stops communication with people and people can't hear what you're saying _ and people can't hear what you're saying and — and people can't hear what you're saying and because we have the perspex — saying and because we have the perspex screen as well, again, you can't _ perspex screen as well, again, you can't quite — perspex screen as well, again, you can't quite hear what people are saying _ can't quite hear what people are saying it — can't quite hear what people are saying it is — can't quite hear what people are saying it is difficult for your customers and difficult for us as welt _ customers and difficult for us as well. a, ., ., , customers and difficult for us as well. ., ., , ., customers and difficult for us as well. ., .,y ., , customers and difficult for us as well. ., ., , ., well. mandatory covid passes for niuht well. mandatory covid passes for night clubs _ well. mandatory covid passes for night clubs and _ well. mandatory covid passes for night clubs and sports _ well. mandatory covid passes for night clubs and sports stadiums l night clubs and sports stadiums won't reach their six—week anniversary as they are scrapped next week although many venues had and will continue to continue to require customers to show them on entry. require customers to show them on ent . �* , ,., ~' require customers to show them on ent .�* , ., require customers to show them on ent .�* ., . ,, entry. i've spoken to some clubs that will still— entry. i've spoken to some clubs that will still be _ entry. i've spoken to some clubs that will still be asking _ entry. i've spoken to some clubs that will still be asking people i entry. i've spoken to some clubsl that will still be asking people to provide a covid pass on the way through, as we have been in bristol since the 19th ofjuly when we opened last year. some places will continue to do that and other places will choose that it is not needed within their environment, so it will be up to the individual venues to decide. �* , . be up to the individual venues to decide. , . , decide. don't expect face coverings to suddenly — decide. don't expect face coverings to suddenly disappear _ decide. don't expect face coverings to suddenly disappear overnight. i to suddenly disappear overnight. they will remain compulsory on public transport in london for example are many people may continue to are on the side of caution. so, there is no plan b for much longer in england but as we've seen, so many times before, coronaviruses doesn't follow plans. we're joined now by one of our regular gps, doctor rosemary leonard. good to see you. good morning and i hope you are well. how do you feel about the changes now, and how do your patients feel?— your patients feel? mixed. i'm deliahted your patients feel? mixed. i'm delighted that _ your patients feel? mixed. i'm delighted that the _ your patients feel? mixed. i'm i delighted that the schoolchildren don't _ delighted that the schoolchildren don't have to wear masks any more and i'm _ don't have to wear masks any more and i'm sure — don't have to wear masks any more and i'm sure how effective the masks were in— and i'm sure how effective the masks were in the _ and i'm sure how effective the masks were in the schools as the virus was rampant _ were in the schools as the virus was rampant amongst teenagers and actually, _ rampant amongst teenagers and actually, as we heard in that clip, for learning, it is better, really, that— for learning, it is better, really, that the — for learning, it is better, really, that the teenagers can get there masks _ that the teenagers can get there masks off but i am very pleased that on transport for london, the underground, the buses that masks will underground, the buses that masks wilt stitt— underground, the buses that masks will still he — underground, the buses that masks will still be compulsory. this virus has gone — will still be compulsory. this virus has gone away and we still have 2000 people _ has gone away and we still have 2000 people a _ has gone away and we still have 2000 people a day going into hospital so we stitt— people a day going into hospital so we still need to be cautious. in we still need to be cautious. in terms we still need to be cautious. terms of we still need to be cautious. in terms of how it would work in we still need to be cautious. in terms of how it would work in your surgery, for example, and you say mixed, because i imagine some people are really nervous. we were having a discussion hear lots people say they would wear a face covering if they went to the supermarket and lots of people saying if i go to the doctor's surgery and i'm surrounded by sick people, i want to feel safe. we need to remember that masks protect— we need to remember that masks protect others primarily rather than you but— protect others primarily rather than you but i'm — protect others primarily rather than you but i'm sure in our surgery and other— you but i'm sure in our surgery and other health — you but i'm sure in our surgery and other health care settings masks will other health care settings masks witt stitt— other health care settings masks will still be encouraged to protect other— will still be encouraged to protect other people because we have to remember there other people because we have to rememberthere are other people because we have to remember there are still very vulnerable people out there, people on immunosuppressant therapy, people having _ on immunosuppressant therapy, people having chemotherapy who cannot build up having chemotherapy who cannot build up immunity to this virus and we don't _ up immunity to this virus and we don't want — up immunity to this virus and we don't want to put them at risk when they are _ don't want to put them at risk when they are coming into health care settings — they are coming into health care settings so we will certainly continue to have social distancing in our— continue to have social distancing in our surgery and ask people to wear— in our surgery and ask people to wear masks to protect others. if wear masks to protect others. someone wear masks to protect others. if someone comes in and says the government says this, but where is the data, what is telling me that now is the time that these plan b rules can be dropped, what would you say? i rules can be dropped, what would you sa ? ., , rules can be dropped, what would you sa ? ., ., rules can be dropped, what would you sa ? ., , ., . ., say? i would say that the omicron variant does _ say? i would say that the omicron variant does seem _ say? i would say that the omicron variant does seem to _ say? i would say that the omicron variant does seem to be _ say? i would say that the omicron variant does seem to be causing l say? i would say that the omicron variant does seem to be causing a less serious — variant does seem to be causing a less serious illness and in time we have _ less serious illness and in time we have got— less serious illness and in time we have got to — less serious illness and in time we have got to learn to live with this virus _ have got to learn to live with this virus like — have got to learn to live with this virus like we have with the flu for many _ virus like we have with the flu for many years — virus like we have with the flu for many years but interestingly what this pandemic has really confirmed is people _ this pandemic has really confirmed is people always used to say before covid, _ is people always used to say before covid, i_ is people always used to say before covid, i don't want to go to the doctor's— covid, i don't want to go to the doctor's surgery must be surrounded try doctor's surgery must be surrounded by snotty— doctor's surgery must be surrounded by snotty children and i will catch a cold _ by snotty children and i will catch a cold but — by snotty children and i will catch a cold but now we know, going forward, — a cold but now we know, going forward, we do need to be careful, particularly — forward, we do need to be careful, particularly in health care settings that we _ particularly in health care settings that we do protect our patients and we don't _ that we do protect our patients and we don't expose them to not only covid _ we don't expose them to not only covid but — we don't expose them to not only covid but a — we don't expose them to not only covid but a load of other viruses as wett~ _ covid but a load of other viruses as wett~ it— covid but a load of other viruses as wett~ it has— covid but a load of other viruses as well. it has told us to spread out the chairs, — well. it has told us to spread out the chairs, bring people in with distancing to protect everybody. there _ distancing to protect everybody. there is — distancing to protect everybody. there is a — distancing to protect everybody. there is a difference between a saying we need to learn to live with the virus and many people are kind of there and we've gone through this for nearly two years now and as you say, omicron is proving less severe in terms of illness than previous variants but what is the date that says, right, this shows we are now able to live with this virus safely? the data, i think, what the government has gone on and i don't know— government has gone on and i don't know and _ government has gone on and i don't know and i— government has gone on and i don't know and i suspect some of the announcement may be politically motivated and a lot of experts have been surprised at the way all the restrictions have suddenly been lifted _ restrictions have suddenly been lifted and the data is that the hospital— lifted and the data is that the hospital admissions are falling but what we _ hospital admissions are falling but what we will have to see now is what will happen _ what we will have to see now is what will happen when the restrictions are lifted — will happen when the restrictions are lifted and if they spike back up again. _ are lifted and if they spike back up again, what are the government going to do then? _ again, what are the government going to do then? i am a bit surprised that— to do then? i am a bit surprised that something as simple as wearing facemasks, and it is very simple and i facemasks, and it is very simple and i know— facemasks, and it is very simple and i know people don't like them, but keeping _ i know people don't like them, but keeping it— i know people don't like them, but keeping it in proportion, it's fairly— keeping it in proportion, it's fairly easy to wear a facemask and i'm surprised that that has so suddenly— i'm surprised that that has so suddenly been lifted. at i'm surprised that that has so suddenly been lifted.- i'm surprised that that has so suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, suddenly been lifted. at the end of march. marks _ suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, marks the _ suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, marks the 27th, _ suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, marks the 27th, is - suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, marks the 27th, is when . suddenly been lifted. at the end of march, marks the 27th, is when alll march, marks the 27th, is when all restrictions could be scheduled to be lifted and that data might be brought forward depending on the data, we've heard from ligament. for example, let's say, going to the end of march, somebody test positive but doesn't isolate because the isolation restrictions will have gone and you treat it like if you had a cold orflu, you can go out and go to the supermarket and be out in society but if somebody rang up the doctor's irving says i've tested positive for covid and i'm coming in anyway, what would be the response? we would say if you have tested positive, — we would say if you have tested positive, we would prefer you don't come _ positive, we would prefer you don't come in _ positive, we would prefer you don't come in unless it's absolutely necessary— come in unless it's absolutely necessary and we do have a back entrance — necessary and we do have a back entrance. we would keep them away from the _ entrance. we would keep them away from the other patients and we would treat them _ from the other patients and we would treat them and put on full protective kit and treat them very carefutty — protective kit and treat them very carefully away from other nations. we still _ carefully away from other nations. we still have to be careful and i think— we still have to be careful and i think if— we still have to be careful and i think if people do test positive, they should, even if there is no forced — they should, even if there is no forced isolation, people should stay away from _ forced isolation, people should stay away from others for at least five days to _ away from others for at least five days to stop the virus spreading. would _ days to stop the virus spreading. would it— days to stop the virus spreading. would it not make more sense for that to be guidance anyway, or the measures, that the isolation continues question yes, absolutely, in the same way that somebody has the flu. if in the same way that somebody has the flu. ,., ,., , ., ., the flu. if somebody had the flu or a bad cold. — the flu. if somebody had the flu or a bad cold, the _ the flu. if somebody had the flu or a bad cold, the guidance _ the flu. if somebody had the flu or a bad cold, the guidance from - a bad cold, the guidance from doctors — a bad cold, the guidance from doctors would be don't go to work stay at _ doctors would be don't go to work stay at home, don't spread it to other— stay at home, don't spread it to other people. but stay at home, don't spread it to other purple-— stay at home, don't spread it to other people. stay at home, don't spread it to other --eole. �* i. ., �* ,, other people. but you don't think it should be a — other people. but you don't think it should be a rule? _ other people. but you don't think it should be a rule? i— other people. but you don't think it should be a rule? i would _ other people. but you don't think it should be a rule? i would like - other people. but you don't think it should be a rule? i would like it - should be a rule? i would like it to be a rule that _ should be a rule? i would like it to be a rule that if— should be a rule? i would like it to be a rule that if you _ should be a rule? i would like it to be a rule that if you have - should be a rule? i would like it to be a rule that if you have covid, i be a rule that if you have covid, you stay— be a rule that if you have covid, you stay away from other people but it's not _ you stay away from other people but it's not up _ you stay away from other people but it's not up to me, unfortunately, to make _ it's not up to me, unfortunately, to make the _ it's not up to me, unfortunately, to make the rules. it's up to the experts — make the rules. it's up to the experts and the government, unfortunately.— experts and the government, unfortunately. experts and the government, unfortunatel. ., ., ., , , unfortunately. you are a trusted gp on this programme, _ unfortunately. you are a trusted gp on this programme, and _ unfortunately. you are a trusted gp on this programme, and thank- unfortunately. you are a trusted gp on this programme, and thank you | unfortunately. you are a trusted gp i on this programme, and thank you so much. i hope you have a good day in the office today. take care. mi the office today. take care. all e es this the office today. take care. fill eyes this morning on the tennis. ready for the roller—coaster? dan evans has gone through without hitting _ dan evans has gone through without hitting a _ dan evans has gone through without hitting a ball because his opponent had to— hitting a ball because his opponent had to withdraw with an injury, but also heather watson has gone out in straight _ also heather watson has gone out in straight sets, although she did put up straight sets, although she did put up a good — straight sets, although she did put up a good fight but now we wait for emma _ up a good fight but now we wait for emma raducanu and andy murray. when she does get on court, at around 8 o'clock, emma radacanu will be favourite against danka kovinic, who's onlyjust inside the world top one hundred, in the rankings, and the draw beyond is opening up for radacanu, because a potential very tricky lith round opponent, would have been murugaza, but she has been knocked out this morning in a real surprise she was the 3rd seed, and a former grand slam winner, but was beaten by aleezay cornay, and muguruza blaming covid19 which she says struck down her entire support team in the run up to the match... his mansion on the court, having come through the five set match set in the _ come through the five set match set in the first— come through the five set match set in the first round. it will be interesting to see what that is taken — interesting to see what that is taken out of him. on paper he is ahead— taken out of him. on paper he is ahead in— taken out of him. on paper he is ahead in the rankings, so should be the slight _ ahead in the rankings, so should be the slight favourite, but you never know _ the slight favourite, but you never know how — the slight favourite, but you never know how much the previous match is taken _ know how much the previous match is taken out _ know how much the previous match is taken out of _ know how much the previous match is taken out of him. there was an incredible finish to last night's premier league match at the king power stadium — tottenham moving into the top five, with a 3—2 win over leicester. up until the final minute, this match looked to be going the home side's way — james maddison's goal put leicester 2—1 up, but five minutes into stoppage time, substitute stephen berg—wine, scored what he thought was a late equaliser. and less than a minute later, somehow spurs got the ball back from kick—off, and sent bergwine through to score again, in one of the top flight's latest ever comeback wins. it's fantastic. fantastic. the fans, a fantastic game and i scored two goals. to a fantastic game and i scored two coals. ., . ., a fantastic game and i scored two .oals, ., a fantastic game and i scored two coals. ., , . a fantastic game and i scored two coals. , . goals. to come off the bench so late, goals. to come off the bench so late. what _ goals. to come off the bench so late. what on — goals. to come off the bench so late, what on earth _ goals. to come off the bench so late, what on earth did - goals. to come off the bench so late, what on earth did the - goals. to come off the bench so - late, what on earth did the manager say to— late, what on earth did the manager say to you? — late, what on earth did the manager say to you?— late, what on earth did the manager sa to ou? , ., say to you? score goals. create some difficulties for _ say to you? score goals. create some difficulties for the _ say to you? score goals. create some difficulties for the defenders - say to you? score goals. create some difficulties for the defenders and - difficulties for the defenders and stay close to harry. i was so happy i jumped stay close to harry. i was so happy ijumped on the ground. so emotional. manchester united overcame a really poor start to beat brentford 3—1. teenager anthony elanga, scoring his first goal of the season to get them going in the second half. but when the manager made changes, cristiano ronaldo didn't even try to hide his frustration at being substituted late on. yes he was not happy that i substituted a man took him off and but he came back from a little injury i was not training for one half weeks and i said, listen, you are 36 and in fantastic physical shape but once you are a head coach at one stage yourself, salt, maybe one day you will see it through the glasses of a head coach. england netball coach jess thirlby, said the team, just ran out of steam, after they lost to australia in the final, of the quad series in london. they were on top for three of the four quarters against their old rivals at the copper box. england were one point ahead with that last fifteen minute period to go. but a remarkable finish from the aussies saw them turn it round and win comfortably — by 58 points to 46. these two may well next meet at the commonwealth games in birmingham in the summer. talking of england against australia, and while the men, lick their wounds after their ashes humiliation, england's women laughing there. i just laughing there. ijust kicked my foot _ get their chance to make a mark down under when their multi—format series, gets under way at 10 past 8, with the first t—20 match in adelaide. england's women, are also trying to stop a period of aussie dominance. the hosts have held the urn for the last three series. we are trying not to think too much about the past ashes and think about the match ups for this one. they've had a few big players loss through injury and we are fighting fit and raring to go and i think it is a case of taking our cricket to them and trying to go toe to toe with them, can and put them under pressure and see how it goes, really. abs. pressure and see how it goes, reall . �* ., ., , , ., really. a multiformat series, one test, really. a multiformat series, one test. three _ really. a multiformat series, one test, three om _ really. a multiformat series, one test, three odi days _ really. a multiformat series, one test, three odi days and - really. a multiformat series, one test, three odi days and 3t20 i test, three odi days and 3t20 matches— test, three odi days and 3t20 matches and points come from all the different— matches and points come from all the different formats and can england and the _ different formats and can england and the aussie pain? can you endure pain. _ and the aussie pain? can you endure pain, i_ and the aussie pain? can you endure pain, i guess? can and the aussie pain? can you endure pain. i guess?— and the aussie pain? can you endure pain, i guess? can andy murray come aood pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? — pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? i — pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? i think _ pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? i think it _ pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? i think it can. _ pain, i guess? can andy murray come good today? i think it can. emma - good today? i think it can. emma raducanu and _ good today? i think it can. emma raducanu and andy _ good today? i think it can. emma raducanu and andy murray - good today? i think it can. emma l raducanu and andy murray starting good today? i think it can. emma - raducanu and andy murray starting as favourites _ raducanu and andy murray starting as favourites. we raducanu and andy murray starting as favourites. ~ .. . ~ raducanu and andy murray starting as favourites. ~ ., ~ ., favourites. we can talk about someone _ favourites. we can talk about someone who _ favourites. we can talk about someone who battles - favourites. we can talk about someone who battles the - favourites. we can talk about l someone who battles the bain, favourites. we can talk about - someone who battles the bain, andy murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made- — murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made- it _ murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made. it was _ murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made. it was two _ murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made. it was two years - murray. he is amazing. the comeback he has made. it was two years ago - he has made. it was two years ago with a _ he has made. it was two years ago with a thinking that when the last time we — with a thinking that when the last time we saw him on court at the australian— time we saw him on court at the australian open and he is moving far better— australian open and he is moving far better with _ australian open and he is moving far better with his metal hit. keep australian open and he is moving far better with his metal hit.— better with his metal hit. keep a smoke -- _ better with his metal hit. keep a smoke -- keep _ better with his metal hit. keep a smoke -- keep us _ better with his metal hit. keep a smoke -- keep us posted, - better with his metal hit. keep a | smoke -- keep us posted, mike. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning everyone. it is a cold start of the day and temperatures last night fell as low as —1i in oxfordshire and to give an idea what they are sitting out at the moment, in manchester it is —3 the airport we have fog so for you there is freezing fog and farmer is —i, aviemore is freezing and belfast as well but in porthmadog where there is more cloud temperatures will have held up a bit more and we are looking at 7 degrees and under the clear skies there will be a lot of sunshine but it will feel chilly and we also have some showers have across the north of the country on the north mainland of country and you might have some ice to watch out for first thing this morning you might have some ice to watch out forfirst thing this morning on untreated services. there will be some showers coming down the east coast and wintry in the north york moors and some showers which will be rain showers getting in across norfolk and suffolk but west wales and, will tend to push into the sea as we go through the day and a lot of dry weather and a lot of sunshine around but feeling cold. gusty winds in the north and also in the east in particular where it will feel raw. as we head through the evening and overnight, a lot of clear skies and the cloud coming in across scotland and that will help maintain the temperature level and it will also be thick enough for spots of light rain or drizzle so away from the west we are looking at a widespread frost and could see fog countries forming across south—west england and south—west scotland and north—west england with temperatures falling away in rural parts to about -6. falling away in rural parts to about —6. as we go into tomorrow we will see the mist and fog lift and there will be dry weather again in a fair bit of sunshine, still cloud coming around an area of high pressure and there will be more of a noticeable breeze but of anything the wind is not as strong down the north sea coastline tomorrow so it won't feel as cold. having said that, you will still feel cold with temperatures ranging between five and london to about nine in stornoway. as we head into the week and the high pressure that has been with us the last wee while and be with us into next week slips a bit further south and we have a weather front coming in across the north and it is a cold front so on sundayjust behind it temperatures where they have been at their highest in the north—west of scotland will slip a little bit but saturday, first of all, we have a lot of dry weather, central and eastern areas and a lot of sunshine and out towards the west we have more cloud coming in and again, thick enough for the odd spot of light rain or drizzle here and there with the exception rather than the rule. stornoway on saturday 11 degrees, seven in london and as we whip into sunday we have a weather from sinking south taking some rain into it and there we will see the temperatures slide a bit. a bit more cloud but predominantly dry for much of the uk with temperatures between seven and 9 degrees. carol, despite the low temperatures. . seven and 9 degrees. carol, despite the low temperatures.— the low temperatures. , not as bad as antarctica. _ the low temperatures. , not as bad as antarctica, perhaps _ the low temperatures. , not as bad as antarctica, perhaps because - the low temperatures. , not as bad | as antarctica, perhaps because that is where we are going, so we should be grateful. nowhere near as cold. thank you. still need to wrap up because that is where we are going next. let's go live to antarctica now — where the impact of climate change is creating problems for the penguins there. scientists say that gentoo penguins, which normally breed in the warmer regions of the continent have, for the first time, started moving south to colder areas. let's get more on this now. louisa casson is greenpeace's oceans campaigner, and led the expedition which recorded the penguins' movements. we can see the ocean behind you, but can you describe where you are? hello from an early morning in the antarctic and the sun is coming just up. it antarctic and the sun is coming 'ust u -. ., , �* antarctic and the sun is coming 'ust u . _ ., , �* ., , antarctic and the sun is coming 'ust u a , ., , j ., , ., antarctic and the sun is coming 'ust up. it doesn't last long because we are at the peak _ up. it doesn't last long because we are at the peak of _ up. it doesn't last long because we are at the peak of the _ up. it doesn't last long because we are at the peak of the antarctic - are at the peak of the antarctic summer— are at the peak of the antarctic summer and are at the peak of the antarctic summerand you can are at the peak of the antarctic summer and you can properly hear the waves _ summer and you can properly hear the waves crashing behind me and we've had fairly— waves crashing behind me and we've had fairly strong winds and the antarctic— had fairly strong winds and the antarctic ocean is pretty powerful and you _ antarctic ocean is pretty powerful and you might be able to see one of the iceberg — and you might be able to see one of the iceberg is behind me as we are heading _ the iceberg is behind me as we are heading further south as i speak. so, heading further south as i speak. so. going — heading further south as i speak. so, going to be a lot more of these impressive — so, going to be a lot more of these impressive icebergs and penguins all around _ impressive icebergs and penguins all around and _ impressive icebergs and penguins all around and even some whales popping up around and even some whales popping up to say— around and even some whales popping up to say hello. we around and even some whales popping up to say hello-— up to say hello. we are on alert to look at your— up to say hello. we are on alert to look at your surroundings. - up to say hello. we are on alert to look at your surroundings. tell - look at your surroundings. tell us more about your discoveries there because this is specific to the gentoo penguin which people will be familiar with but where they are is the crucial issue here.— the crucial issue here. exactly. over the past _ the crucial issue here. exactly. over the past week _ the crucial issue here. exactly. over the past week we - the crucial issue here. exactly. over the past week we have i the crucial issue here. exactly. - over the past week we have visited remote _ over the past week we have visited remote penguin colonies and even discover— remote penguin colonies and even discover new penguin colonies were scientist _ discover new penguin colonies were scientist in — discover new penguin colonies were scientist in think there would be and as— scientist in think there would be and as we — scientist in think there would be and as we said, the gentoo penguin is normally— and as we said, the gentoo penguin is normally found further north because — is normally found further north because until recently around here on the _ because until recently around here on the eastern side of the antarctic peninsula _ on the eastern side of the antarctic peninsula it was too icy to successfully breed a check on their discovery— successfully breed a check on their discovery of 75 gentoo chicks showed that the _ discovery of 75 gentoo chicks showed that the climate crisis is hitting these _ that the climate crisis is hitting these parts of the antarctic as well as and _ these parts of the antarctic as well as and it _ these parts of the antarctic as well as and it is — these parts of the antarctic as well as and it is warming up and therefore _ as and it is warming up and therefore they are moving south and it really— therefore they are moving south and it really is _ therefore they are moving south and it really is a — therefore they are moving south and it really is a sign of how the climate _ it really is a sign of how the climate crisis is impacting this region — climate crisis is impacting this region. penguins are really important species because they tell us a lot— important species because they tell us a lot about the broader changes happening — us a lot about the broader changes happening in our environment and we call them _ happening in our environment and we call them a _ happening in our environment and we call them a sentinel species. this is a warning — call them a sentinel species. this is a warning about how governments need to— is a warning about how governments need to act— is a warning about how governments need to act urgently to tackle climate — need to act urgently to tackle climate change and create sanctuaries in the antarctic is currently— sanctuaries in the antarctic is currently the penguin habitat are largely— currently the penguin habitat are largely unprotected but could be facing _ largely unprotected but could be facing multiple pressures through climate _ facing multiple pressures through climate change but also the expansion of industrial fishing. can ou rive expansion of industrial fishing. can you give us — expansion of industrial fishing. can you give us a _ expansion of industrial fishing. can you give us a sense of how rare expansion of industrial fishing. (15w you give us a sense of how rare the discovery is was i think you said it was 75 gentoo chicks. have they ever been found there before at all? . but until now only one solitary nest of gentoo _ but until now only one solitary nest of gentoo penguins have been found on this— of gentoo penguins have been found on this side of the peninsula, so that's— on this side of the peninsula, so that's quite _ on this side of the peninsula, so that's quite a substantial growth to find this— that's quite a substantial growth to find this new colony and this new penguin— find this new colony and this new penguin colony was spotted by the scientist _ penguin colony was spotted by the scientist we are working with at stony _ scientist we are working with at stony brook university as we sailed around _ stony brook university as we sailed around the — stony brook university as we sailed around the antarctic pounds so they did not— around the antarctic pounds so they did not know before they came here that this _ did not know before they came here that this group of penguins were breathing in these regions and they had spotted it and that is what we're — had spotted it and that is what we're trying to over the next month and visit _ we're trying to over the next month and visit remote places some of which _ and visit remote places some of which have never been visited before so we _ which have never been visited before so we can _ which have never been visited before so we can fill the data gap and make the strong _ so we can fill the data gap and make the strong case for why governments need to— the strong case for why governments need to act— the strong case for why governments need to act to protect this incredible and fragile place. thank ou so incredible and fragile place. thank you so much _ incredible and fragile place. thank you so much for— incredible and fragile place. thank you so much for talking _ incredible and fragile place. thank you so much for talking to - incredible and fragile place. thank you so much for talking to us, - you so much for talking to us, louise from greenpeace. the miracle of modern technology, live on a ship in antarctica looking around and finding out the work they are doing. a long time ago you would have had to send cameras in all sorts of stuff. now it is just like that. i sever we have the headlines but let's find out what is happening where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. people in london will still need to wear a mask on tubes, buses and trams despite the lifting of restrictions due next week. yesterday the prime minister borisjohnson said masks would no longer be needed in shops, schools, or public transport. but the mayor of london sadiq khan says masks will still be a condition of travel on tfl services. around 30% of londoners are unvaccinated. the number of nhs dentists in london fell by around 10% last year, according to new nhs figures. the british dental association says dentistry is "hanging by a thread", with some people waiting for up to two years for routine check—ups and many dentists leaving. nhs england says there was additionalfunding during the pandemic, and hundreds of urgent dental centres were set up across england. a number of london mps have written to the royal mail, to express concern over delays to deliveries in parts of the capital. some londoners are only now starting to receive post sent before christmas. royal mail says the problems are only affecting a small number of areas, and are the result of staff shortages caused by the pandemic. you may recognise him from playing the cello at prince harry and meghan's wedding. now sheku kanneh—mason has gone back to school to inspire children. the charity london music masters helps bring music lessons to primary schools across the capital, and this one in southwark was lucky enough to get a master class from him. with the music, there is so much spontaneity required to be able to play together with the children and for them to hear my sound up close, hopefully when they come to practice again, they can remember the sound they have heard. let's take a look at the tubes. just the part closure of the northern line until mid—may for major works. onto the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. a few splashes of rain yesterday and it felt milder but today we are back into the chilly air and high pressure building from the west set to keep us dry as we head through the rest of the week and there will be some more frosty nights to come in more fog returning over the weekend. visibility not too bad this morning but there is a widespread frost to start the morning, and temperatures have dipped below freezing for many of us and we will see a lot of blue sky and sunshine and a pretty winter's day but feeling cold with a chilly northerly wind and temperatures not getting past amid single figures or for five celsius for most. as we head for the evening and overnight there will be a widespread sharp frost and temperatures for many away from the towns might drop as low as —3 or minus four celsius and perhaps a mist forming on friday. on friday the high pressure is firmly with us and that will keep us dry, and we have milder air feeding around it as well and there will be a bit more in the way of cloud and the high pressure will last as we head through the weekend so it is dry and that will see a return to the misty, foggy mornings i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines. from today, face masks are not compulsory in england's classrooms, as the government says we must learn to live with covid. the prime minister vows to fight any leadership challenge, as mps await a crucial report into downing street parties. the british dental association says nhs dentistry is "hanging by a thread", as patients wait two years for check—ups. a busy day for the brits at the australian open, with dan evans through and heather watson out, and attention now turning to andy murray and emma radacanu leading the charge — both due on court soon. good morning. it isa it is a cold and frosty start. there are showers in the forecast but for most of what it will be dry with lengthy sunny spells. feeling cold. details later in the programme. good morning. it's thursday, the 20th of january. our main story. secondary school pupils in england will no longer need to wear face coverings in classrooms from today, as the government's plan b measures are phased out. advice to work from home has also ended, and from next thursday, mandatory face masks in public places and covid passports will both be axed. simonjones has the details. face—to—face learning, but it will now be without the masks. from today, face coverings in the classroom in england can come off, though unions are warning that coronavirus remains a challenge, with large numbers of staff and pupils absent. but the government is keen for us to learn to live with covid. in england, people are no longer advised to work from home. from next thursday, face coverings won't be required legally in any setting, though people are still advised to wear them in crowded places. and covid passports to get into nightclubs will be dropped, though venues can choose to carry on using them. the steps that we've announced represent a major milestone. but it's not the end of the road. and we shouldn't see this as the finish line, because we cannot eradicate this virus and its future variants. instead, we must learn to live with covid in the same way that we've learned to live with flu. some are wary of going too fast, too quickly. i think it is a bit too early, because cases are still very high. i think it's about time - they lift them, you know. it's been a long couple of years now of sitting about doing nothing. - i think i would keep it in transport and crowded places like shops. the royal college of nursing is warning that dropping plan b will do nothing to ease the pressure on the nhs. but the government believes the booster programme has made a real difference, and that the omicron wave has peaked. it will also look to end the legal requirement for people who test positive to self—isolate, and replace it with guidance by the end of march. from next week, many restrictions on hospitality in scotland will be lifted. in wales, nightclubs will be able to reopen. in northern ireland, ministers are set to consider relaxations. but all nations are urging caution, as they attempt to draw up long—term strategies for coexisting with the virus. simon jones, bbc news. downing street has said boris johnson will fight any challenge to his leadership of the conservative party. it follows a fiery day in the commons as the fallout continues over parties in number 10, with one new mp defecting to the labour party, and a former cabinet minister calling for the prime minister to stand down. nick eardley reports. calm? there isn't much of it around here. westminster is tense about a report into what parties happened in downing street during lockdown, and how long borisjohnson will remain prime minister. yesterday, one conservative mp decided he'd had enough. christian wakeford joined the labour party, very publicly defecting on the floor of the house of commons. music to the ears of his new leader. can i start by warmly welcoming the honourable member for bury south to his new place in the house... cheering. ..and to the parliamentary labour party? mr speaker, like so many people up and down the country, he has concluded that the prime minister and the conservative party have shown themselves incapable of offering the leadership and government this country deserves. a prime minister underfire from his own side too, but showing no signs he wants to go anywhere. and as for bury south, mr speaker, as for bury south, we will win again in bury south at the next election under this prime minister. but then listen to this, from one of his own mps, a former brexit ally. i expect my leaders to shoulder the responsibility for the actions they take. yesterday, he did the opposite of that. so i will remind him of a quotation. "you have sat there too long for all the good you have done. in the name of god, go." cheering. rumours are flying around here about whether the prime minister will face a confidence vote. the chances of that happening this week appear to have receded, and some think it would be a bad idea. colleagues are coming out now strongly and supporting the prime minister as the right man to lead our country. and on all the big decisions, you know, he's got the call right, whether it's covid, brexit, or creating the fastest—growing economy in the g7. but plenty of conservatives are angry. and some may move next week when a report into lockdown parties is published. and i think there is a real sense of stepping back and realising that the right thing to do is to wait for sue gray's report, to then question the prime minister, as he has quite properly said he will come to the house of commons and make a statement and answer for it. some hope borisjohnson survives, others aren't so sure. the prime minister's future is farfrom certain. nick eardley, bbc news, westminster. our chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now from westminster. so, lots of speculation about the timing of the plan b announcement, of course. all after a very frenetic day, i think. of course. all after a very frenetic day. i think-— day, i think. yeah, what a day. those are _ day, i think. yeah, what a day. those are the _ day, i think. yeah, what a day. those are the words _ day, i think. yeah, what a day. those are the words the - day, i think. yeah, what a day. i those are the words the speaker day, i think. yeah, what a day. - those are the words the speaker of the house — those are the words the speaker of the house of commons were heard to mutter— the house of commons were heard to mutter on _ the house of commons were heard to mutter on a _ the house of commons were heard to mutter on a hot microphone yesterday. think about the things that happened to the prime minister yesterday— that happened to the prime minister yesterday that were negative. the so-called — yesterday that were negative. the so—called pork pie plot, because of where _ so—called pork pie plot, because of where one — so—called pork pie plot, because of where one of the plotters was from, accelerated — where one of the plotters was from, accelerated yesterday morning. an mp defected _ accelerated yesterday morning. an mp defected to the labour party from a really _ defected to the labour party from a really highly symbolic seat that represented why boris johnson was a winner— represented why boris johnson was a winner in— represented why boris johnson was a winner in the first place. then you have _ winner in the first place. then you have got— winner in the first place. then you have got david davis telling him to quit to _ have got david davis telling him to quit to his— have got david davis telling him to quit to his face in front of everyone _ quit to his face in front of everyone in the full glare of prime minister's — everyone in the full glare of prime minister's questions. but he had, the prime — minister's questions. but he had, the prime minister has ended up in the prime minister has ended up in the relatively strong position today than he _ the relatively strong position today than he started yesterday. that is because _ than he started yesterday. that is because the plotters and david davis were not— because the plotters and david davis were not able to galvanise more of their colleagues to do the same thing _ their colleagues to do the same thing. that defection of christian wakeford — thing. that defection of christian wakeford to labour, has actually promoted — wakeford to labour, has actually promoted party unity within the conservative party rather than reducing — conservative party rather than reducing it even further. and one conservative adviser texted me this morning _ conservative adviser texted me this morning to — conservative adviser texted me this morning to say the thing that links those _ morning to say the thing that links those three things, the plotters, the defector and the backstabber, is self—indulgent. but the prime minister— self—indulgent. but the prime minister is only a relative winner at the _ minister is only a relative winner at the moment because the measure of success— at the moment because the measure of success for— at the moment because the measure of success for him is surviving. so that— success for him is surviving. so that is— success for him is surviving. so that is why— success for him is surviving. so that is why he is relatively winning _ that is why he is relatively winning. it is because he is surviving _ winning. it is because he is surviving. david davis has done an interview — surviving. david davis has done an interview with the daily telegraph after his— interview with the daily telegraph after his dramatic intervention yesterday, saying the conservative party— yesterday, saying the conservative party and — yesterday, saying the conservative party and the prime minister faces death— party and the prime minister faces death by— party and the prime minister faces death by a — party and the prime minister faces death by a thousand cuts. he says there _ death by a thousand cuts. he says there is— death by a thousand cuts. he says there is lots of things coming. the sue gray— there is lots of things coming. the sue gray report, which is expected x-ray _ sue gray report, which is expected x-ray the — sue gray report, which is expected x—ray. the increase do national insurance — x—ray. the increase do national insurance to _ x—ray. the increase do national insurance to pay for the health service — insurance to pay for the health service a— insurance to pay for the health service. a massive increase of everyone _ service. a massive increase of everyone pass my bills for everything. and he says downing street— everything. and he says downing street is— everything. and he says downing street is sure to make more mistakes through— street is sure to make more mistakes through the _ street is sure to make more mistakes through the year, which will only create _ through the year, which will only create more enemies for boris johnson — create more enemies for boris johnson in _ create more enemies for boris johnson in his own political party. adam _ johnson in his own political party. adam fleming, thank you. we'll speak to health secretary sajid javid at about half past seven, and labour's shadow chancellor rachel reeves will be joining us in just a few minutes. president biden has warned russia that it would pay dearly if it invaded ukraine. in a news conference marking his first full year in office, mr biden predicted president putin would "move in" on ukraine, but said he didn't think russia's leader wanted a full—blown war. our washington correspondent gary o'donoghue reports. gunfire. ever since russia began its build—up of troops on the ukrainian border, america has been threatening wide ranging economic sanctions, if vladimir putin went ahead with an invasion. now the us president is predicting that his russian counterpart will make a move on ukraine, testing the west. and while us troops would not be involved, the president said the consequences would be deadly. the cost of going into ukraine in terms of physical loss of life for the russians — and they will be able to prevail over time, but it's going to be heavy. it's going to be real. it's going to be consequential. at home, the administration's handling of covid has been severely criticised, particularly for the slow response on testing. now a billion tests will be available for americans to take at home, and the president promised no more lockdowns. i'm not going to give up and accept things as they are now. some people may call what's happening now the new normal. i call it a job not yet finished. it will get better. we are moving toward a time when covid—i9 won't disrupt our daily lives. the president claimed credit for bringing unemployment down, and passing covid relief and infrastructure legislation. but with inflation high, and other bills being blocked, he blamed republicans for not getting more done. i did not anticipate that there'd be such a stalwart effort to make sure that the most important thing was that president biden didn't get anything done. joe biden believes his first year has seen important progress on the economy, on covid and on infrastructure. but with key parts of its legislative programme mired in congress, and a looming crisis with russia, there are huge challenges ahead, not least those mid—term elections in november. gary o'donoghue, bbc news at the white house. ghislaine maxwell's lawyers are expected to formally request that her sex abuse conviction be overturned. she was found guilty of sexually trapping young girls for later financiers jeffrey trapping young girls for later financiersjeffrey epstein. she faces 65 years in jail. �*iz financiers jeffrey epstein. she faces 65 years in jail. faces 65 years in 'ail. 12 minutes ast faces 65 years in 'ail. 12 minutes past — faces 65 years in 'ail. 12 minutes past seven. the _ faces 65 years in jail. 12 minutes past seven. the first _ faces 65 years in jail. 12 minutes past seven. the first look - faces 65 years in jail. 12 minutes past seven. the first look at - faces 65 years in jail. 12 minutes past seven. the first look at the | past seven. the first look at the weather with carol this hour. chilly out there but, look at that lovely picture. it is. it is beautiful. this is what many of us will be looking at it today. blue skies. a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine, but it is going to feel chilly wherever you are. it is a chilly start, a frosty one as well with pockets of fog. we have a few showers peppering the far north of mainland scotland and the northern isles. some could be wintry and falling on cold surfaces means first thing there might be some ice. a lot of dry weather. for northern ireland, cloud from the west but essentially dry and sunny. for much of england and wales it will be dry and sunny. showers might down the east coast. they could be wintry. west wales and, well could see some showers. wind is anotherfeature west wales and, well could see some showers. wind is another feature of the weather. gusty winds in the north and east. that will make it feel quite right. at times it will be quite gusty in the north west of scotland. these are the temperatures. only four in aberdeen this morning to aid in cardiff. this evening and overnight a bit more cloud in parts of scotland and northern ireland, thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle here and there. nothing too much. again, that will be the exception rather than the rule. under clear skies another cold one and another frosty one as well, with patchy fog forming across south—west scotland and north—west england. that will lift quite readily tomorrow. for most it will be dry. a fair bit of sunshine. cloud toppling around this area of high pressure dominating the weather. that is also going to be thick enough again for some drizzle. temperatures between five and eight. thank you. it was a dramatic day in westminster yesterday. first, they were fiery exchanges in the commons, with the conservative mp defected to labour. and then the announcement of the scrapping of plan b covid rules. lots to get into and we can get into it with the shadow chancellor rachel reeves. good morning. plan b being scrapped, do you welcome this? itruiell. scrapped, do you welcome this? well, it is really good _ scrapped, do you welcome this? well, it is really good news _ scrapped, do you welcome this? well, it is really good news that _ scrapped, do you welcome this? well, it is really good news that a _ scrapped, do you welcome this? well, it is really good news that a number of cases— it is really good news that a number of cases are — it is really good news that a number of cases are coming down, the number of cases are coming down, the number of people _ of cases are coming down, the number of people being admitted to hospital is coming _ of people being admitted to hospital is coming down. and that is happening because plan b was introduced before christmas, which labour— introduced before christmas, which labour supported. they got my didn't have the _ labour supported. they got my didn't have the support of its own mps. so i am pleased we played our part in getting _ i am pleased we played our part in getting to — i am pleased we played our part in getting to the place we are in now. and i_ getting to the place we are in now. and i think— getting to the place we are in now. and i think all of us want to go back— and i think all of us want to go back to — and i think all of us want to go back to a — and i think all of us want to go back to a time when we don't have to live with _ back to a time when we don't have to live with all _ back to a time when we don't have to live with all these restrictions. certainly businesses are desperate to move _ certainly businesses are desperate to move on. i welcome the changes. they were _ to move on. i welcome the changes. they were always dutiful next week. it they were always dutiful next week. it was _ they were always dutiful next week. it was always going to be dependent on the data. there is a lot of speculation that the announcement yesterday were so—called red meat to appease tory backbenchers, to appease tory backbenchers, to appease tory backbenchers, to appease tory is unhappy with boris johnson's leadership. but if there was always the thing, and this is what labour has always said, follow the data. what evidence have you seen to support the relaxation of plan b? if seen to support the relaxation of plan b? , ., seen to support the relaxation of plan b? i. seen to support the relaxation of plan b? _, ., , seen to support the relaxation of plan b? i. ., , ., plan b? if you look at the number of cases on a — plan b? if you look at the number of cases on a daily _ plan b? if you look at the number of cases on a daily basis, _ plan b? if you look at the number of cases on a daily basis, the _ plan b? if you look at the number of cases on a daily basis, the numbers| cases on a daily basis, the numbers of people _ cases on a daily basis, the numbers of people testing positive, the numbers— of people testing positive, the numbers of people going into hospital, if you look at the number of people _ hospital, if you look at the number of people who are beginning —— getting — of people who are beginning —— getting seriously ill and even dying from covid, all of those numbers are moving _ from covid, all of those numbers are moving in— from covid, all of those numbers are moving in the right direction and that is— moving in the right direction and that is welcome. so moving in the right direction and that is welcome.— that is welcome. so why did keir starmer ask _ that is welcome. so why did keir starmer ask for _ that is welcome. so why did keir starmer ask for evidence - that is welcome. so why did keir starmer ask for evidence of - that is welcome. so why did keir starmer ask for evidence of the l that is welcome. so why did keir - starmer ask for evidence of the data to be published yesterday?- to be published yesterday? because there are some _ to be published yesterday? because there are some things, _ to be published yesterday? because there are some things, like, - to be published yesterday? because there are some things, like, for - there are some things, like, for ekample. — there are some things, like, for example, the isolation, because of tests. _ example, the isolation, because of tests. the — example, the isolation, because of tests, the government are saying they want— tests, the government are saying they want to get rid of that. we want _ they want to get rid of that. we want to— they want to get rid of that. we want to see more evidence that would be appropriate and safe. but i think like everybody in the country, we are desperate to get back to a time when _ are desperate to get back to a time when we _ are desperate to get back to a time when we didn't have to live with these _ when we didn't have to live with these restrictions. and so, we welcome _ these restrictions. and so, we welcome the fact the numbers have moved _ welcome the fact the numbers have moved in _ welcome the fact the numbers have moved in the right direction. while all this is happening _ moved in the right direction. while all this is happening what - moved in the right direction. law ia: all this is happening what people are fearful about, many people, is the rising cost of living, the cost of living crisis on the horizon. we are going to see that move. it is already affecting people, with higher energy and food prices. you are announcing a response to this. what are you proposing? this are announcing a response to this. what are you proposing?— what are you proposing? this is something _ what are you proposing? this is something that _ what are you proposing? this is something that is _ what are you proposing? this is something that is very - what are you proposing? this is something that is very real - what are you proposing? this is| something that is very real now. what are you proposing? this is - something that is very real now. we have the _ something that is very real now. we have the numbers yesterday that shows _ have the numbers yesterday that shows inflation at its highest level for 30 _ shows inflation at its highest level for 30 years. many of us, in our adult _ for 30 years. many of us, in our adult lifetimes, have not experienced inflation like this. it is only— experienced inflation like this. it is only going to get worse. many people _ is only going to get worse. many people predicting inflation of 7% in the spring. 50 people predicting inflation of 7% in the s-urin. ., ., people predicting inflation of 7% in the srin. ., ., the spring. so what are you proposing _ the spring. so what are you proposing to _ the spring. so what are you proposing to do _ the spring. so what are you proposing to do about - the spring. so what are you proposing to do about it? i proposing to do about it? specifically on energy bills, we would — specifically on energy bills, we would take vat off domestic gas and electricity— would take vat off domestic gas and electricity bills, and also that we would _ electricity bills, and also that we would expand the warm homes discount, — would expand the warm homes discount, so it goes to more pensioners and to more families and paid at— pensioners and to more families and paid at a _ pensioners and to more families and paid at a more generous level. at the paid at a more generous level. the moment paid at a more generous level. git the moment that is 140, a one—off payment. what do propose it would be? . ., , ., payment. what do propose it would be? . .,, ., i: i: payment. what do propose it would be? . ., iii: ., ., be? increase it to £400 for one year and extended _ be? increase it to £400 for one year and extended to _ be? increase it to £400 for one year and extended to 200 _ be? increase it to £400 for one year and extended to 200 million - and extended to 200 million households —— to 9 million households —— to 9 million households from today. as energy prices _ households from today. as energy prices spike, so have the profits of energy— prices spike, so have the profits of energy companies. when some people are doing _ energy companies. when some people are doing very well out of the energy— are doing very well out of the energy increase, this is an appropriate way to help —— key bills low for— appropriate way to help —— key bills low for everybody else. this is a package — low for everybody else. this is a package of— low for everybody else. this is a package of measures that helps everybody with a vat cut, but with additional — everybody with a vat cut, but with additional help for families and pensioners who need it most. previously the labour party has been seen as not business friendly. have you had conversations with these energy companies to say this is something that you could deal with, is there something you could deal with? ~ , ,., , is there something you could deal with? . ,,., , and is there something you could deal with?_ and what - is there something you could deal with?_ and what have | is there something you could deal - with?_ and what have they with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at — with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at meeting _ with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at meeting one _ with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at meeting one of- with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at meeting one of the - with? absolutely. and what have they said? i am at meeting one of the big l said? i am at meeting one of the big ones next week _ said? i am at meeting one of the big ones next week to _ said? i am at meeting one of the big ones next week to have _ said? i am at meeting one of the big ones next week to have more - said? i am at meeting one of the big i ones next week to have more detailed conversations. this is not something... conversations. this is not something. . .— conversations. this is not something... conversations. this is not somethina... ., ., something... what have they said? will they cooperate? _ something... what have they said? will they cooperate? different - will they cooperate? different companies — will they cooperate? different companies say _ will they cooperate? different companies say different - will they cooperate? different. companies say different things. will they cooperate? different i companies say different things. i will they cooperate? different - companies say different things. i am not going _ companies say different things. i am not going to say what private conversations i have had. it is all ve well conversations i have had. it is all very well proposing _ conversations i have had. it is all very well proposing something i conversations i have had. it is all. very well proposing something like this. ., , very well proposing something like this. , ., , ., ., ., ., this. nobody wants to pay additional tax but i think— this. nobody wants to pay additional tax but | think it — this. nobody wants to pay additional tax but i think it is _ this. nobody wants to pay additional tax but i think it is very _ this. nobody wants to pay additional tax but i think it is very clear - tax but i think it is very clear that— tax but i think it is very clear that when— tax but i think it is very clear that when some companies are doing very well— that when some companies are doing very well come and making huge profits— very well come and making huge profits because of this unexpected spike _ profits because of this unexpected spike in _ profits because of this unexpected spike in prices, that we use those profits— spike in prices, that we use those profits and — spike in prices, that we use those profits and that a surcharge tax, which _ profits and that a surcharge tax, which george osborne used in 2011, that gordon brown used before that, to use _ that gordon brown used before that, to use that— that gordon brown used before that, to use that money to keep bills low for everybody. that is a choice that a labour— for everybody. that is a choice that a labour government would make. this conservative _ a labour government would make. this conservative government, no plan. they are _ conservative government, no plan. they are mired in lies and this partygate _ they are mired in lies and this partygate scandal. and as a result, the big _ partygate scandal. and as a result, the big issues that we are facing as a country. — the big issues that we are facing as a country, whether it is learning to live with _ a country, whether it is learning to live with covid, whether it is the cost _ live with covid, whether it is the cost of _ live with covid, whether it is the cost of living crisis, or plans on how— cost of living crisis, or plans on how to — cost of living crisis, or plans on how to grow the economy, which i'm going _ how to grow the economy, which i'm going to _ how to grow the economy, which i'm going to be — how to grow the economy, which i'm going to be talking about in a speech— going to be talking about in a speech in— going to be talking about in a speech in bury later today, they have _ speech in bury later today, they have no— speech in bury later today, they have no plans. it is ordinary british— have no plans. it is ordinary british people paying the price for that _ british people paying the price for that. ~ .. ., british people paying the price for that. ~ ., ., that. well, in reaction to unhappiness _ that. well, in reaction to unhappiness about - that. well, in reaction to - unhappiness about conservative policies, we saw, of course, a defection, christian wakeford, who crossed the house yesterday. he is a new tory mp from the 2019 intake. have you welcomed him to the party? i am going to be with him today in bury. _ i am going to be with him today in bury, where he is a member of parliament. i am looking forward to getting _ parliament. i am looking forward to getting to _ parliament. i am looking forward to getting to know him and to working with him _ getting to know him and to working with him. but like many conservative voters _ with him. but like many conservative voters from _ with him. but like many conservative voters from 2019, and in previous elections. — voters from 2019, and in previous elections, he has turned to the labour— elections, he has turned to the labour party because he looks at his own party— labour party because he looks at his own party and his own leadership and he sees _ own party and his own leadership and he sees they are not fit to govern. he looks _ he sees they are not fit to govern. he looks at — he sees they are not fit to govern. he looks at the labour party, and keir starmer said this yesterday, the labour— keir starmer said this yesterday, the labour party has changed, but so have the _ the labour party has changed, but so have the conservatives.— have the conservatives. there will be some kickabout _ have the conservatives. there will be some kickabout on _ have the conservatives. there will be some kickabout on this. - have the conservatives. there will be some kickabout on this. he - have the conservatives. there will be some kickabout on this. he is i have the conservatives. there will| be some kickabout on this. he is a tory, he is a lifelong tory. irlat tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now. tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now- he _ tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now- he is— tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now- he is a — tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now. he is a labour— tory, he is a lifelong tory. not now. he is a labour mp. he i tory, he is a lifelong tory. notl now. he is a labour mp. he has previously _ now. he is a labour mp. he has previously gone _ now. he is a labour mp. he has previously gone on _ now. he is a labour mp. he has previously gone on record - now. he is a labour mp. he hasj previously gone on record about now. he is a labour mp. he has - previously gone on record about how voters can't trust starmer on brexit, how his constituents were let down by years of labour and the like. he said labour under starmer no longer represents working—class community is and that bury has been let down by its labour council. how do you change your mind so quickly, to go from being so anti—labour and anti—sir keir starmer, to a labour mp? anti-sir keir starmer, to a labour mp? ., ., y ., anti-sir keir starmer, to a labour mp? ., ., _, ., anti-sir keir starmer, to a labour mp? ., ., ., anti-sir keir starmer, to a labour mp? ., ., mp? how do you go so quickly from it, ou mp? how do you go so quickly from it. you know. _ mp? how do you go so quickly from it. you know. a _ mp? how do you go so quickly from it, you know, a prime _ mp? how do you go so quickly from it, you know, a prime minister- mp? how do you go so quickly from it, you know, a prime minister andl mp? how do you go so quickly from | it, you know, a prime minister and a it, you know, a prime ministerand a government~~~ — it, you know, a prime minister and a government---_ government... no, the question is about christian _ government... no, the question is about christian wakeford, - government... no, the question is about christian wakeford, a - government... no, the question is about christian wakeford, a tory l government... no, the question is l about christian wakeford, a tory mp you have welcomed into the party, who was anti, notjust negative about labour, anti—labour, and he's 0k -- about labour, anti—labour, and he's ok —— anti—sir keir starmer? he about labour, anti-labour, and he's ok -- anti-sir keir starmer?- ok -- anti-sir keir starmer? he has seen that change _ ok -- anti-sir keir starmer? he has seen that change in _ ok -- anti-sir keir starmer? he has seen that change in the _ ok -- anti-sir keir starmer? he has seen that change in the two - ok -- anti-sir keir starmer? he has seen that change in the two short i seen that change in the two short years— seen that change in the two short years he — seen that change in the two short years he has been an mp. the change in his— years he has been an mp. the change in his own _ years he has been an mp. the change in his own party and the change in my party — in his own party and the change in m -a . ~ , in his own party and the change in m .a _ . , ., , in his own party and the change in ma .~ , in his own party and the change in my party. why has he changed his fundamental _ my party. why has he changed his fundamental beliefs? _ my party. why has he changed his fundamental beliefs? he - my party. why has he changed his fundamental beliefs? he has- my party. why has he changed hisj fundamental beliefs? he has seen my party. why has he changed his i fundamental beliefs? he has seen the chance in fundamental beliefs? he has seen the change in the — fundamental beliefs? he has seen the change in the labour _ fundamental beliefs? he has seen the change in the labour party. _ fundamental beliefs? he has seen the change in the labour party. the i change in the labour party. the labour— change in the labour party. the labour party is pro—worker and... you _ labour party is pro—worker and... you talk— labour party is pro—worker and... you talk about the prime minister. he is looking at labour and seeing our plans— he is looking at labour and seeing our plans around the cost of living, growing _ our plans around the cost of living, growing the — our plans around the cost of living, growing the economy and supporting businesses, around our plans to actually— businesses, around our plans to actually make brexit work. he voted for the £20 — actually make brexit work. he voted for the £20 universal— actually make brexit work. he voted for the £20 universal credit - actually make brexit work. he voted for the £20 universal credit cut. i for the e20 universal credit cut. welcome until yesterday he took the conservative whip, and that is what conservative whip, and that is what conservative mps were whipped to do. he now— conservative mps were whipped to do. he now takes the labour whip and will be _ he now takes the labour whip and will be voting with the labour party — will be voting with the labour party. but the labour party is only going _ party. but the labour party is only going to _ party. but the labour party is only going to win elections if we can attract — going to win elections if we can attract people who were once conservative voters, once avid conservative voters, once avid conservative supporters, to our party. _ conservative supporters, to our -a . conservative supporters, to our na , ., conservative supporters, to our .a _ ., , , conservative supporters, to our party. he voted yes to the welfare ca -. he party. he voted yes to the welfare cap- he voted _ party. he voted yes to the welfare cap. he voted against _ party. he voted yes to the welfare cap. he voted against measures i party. he voted yes to the welfare | cap. he voted against measures to reduce tax avoidance. he voted for a stricter asylum system.— stricter asylum system. people can chanae stricter asylum system. people can change their _ stricter asylum system. people can change their minds. _ stricter asylum system. people can change their minds. christian i change their minds. christian wakeford has changed his mind, joined _ wakeford has changed his mind, joined the — wakeford has changed his mind, joined the labour party. we say to other— joined the labour party. we say to other conservative voters, look again _ other conservative voters, look again at — other conservative voters, look again at labour. under keir starmer's _ again at labour. under keir starmer's leadership we have change that we _ starmer's leadership we have change that we have got plans for the future, — that we have got plans for the future, come and join us. in that we have got plans for the future, come and join us. future, come and 'oin us. in bury south future, come and join us. in bury south conservative _ future, come and join us. in bury south conservative voters - future, come and join us. in bury south conservative voters voted | future, come and join us. in bury. south conservative voters voted for a conservative mp. now they have been told he is a labour mp. why can't they have a by—election so the gate —— so they get to vote for the party they want? i gate -- so they get to vote for the party they want?— party they want? i say bring on a aeneral party they want? i say bring on a general election. _ party they want? i say bring on a general election. that's - party they want? i say bring on a general election. that's not i party they want? i say bring on a| general election. that's not going to happen- _ general election. that's not going to happen- what— general election. that's not going to happen. what has _ general election. that's not going to happen. what has happened i general election. that's not going to happen. what has happened is| general election. that's not going l to happen. what has happened is a conservative mp is now a labour mp. why can a by—election not be put in place? in 2020 mr whiteford supported a backbench bill... mani; supported a backbench bill... many labour supported a backbench bill... many labour mps — supported a backbench bill... many labour mps resigned _ supported a backbench bill... many labour mps resigned from - supported a backbench bill... many labour mps resigned from the labour party. _ labour mps resigned from the labour party, formed a new party, joined other— party, formed a new party, joined other parties. there weren't by—elections. and i wasn't calling for by—elections them. when you vote for by—elections them. when you vote for an— for by—elections them. when you vote for an mp. _ for by—elections them. when you vote for an mp, you are not correct you are voting _ for an mp, you are not correct you are voting for their name. it was his name — are voting for their name. it was his name on— are voting for their name. it was his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp- — his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp- it — his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp- it was _ his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp. it was the _ his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp. it was the first _ his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp. it was the first time i his name on the ballot paper. he was a tory mp. it was the first time he i a tory mp. it was the first time he stood. they were voting for boris johnson. the conservative party. the way democracy works as it is the name _ way democracy works as it is the name of— way democracy works as it is the name of the candidates on the ballot paper~ _ name of the candidates on the ballot paper. people voted for christian wakeford. he would say the party he stood _ wakeford. he would say the party he stood for _ wakeford. he would say the party he stood for in — wakeford. he would say the party he stood for in 2019 has changed. it is a party— stood for in 2019 has changed. it is a party that— stood for in 2019 has changed. it is a party that can't offer the leadership the country needs. it is labour— leadership the country needs. it is labour come under keir starmer, that can offer— labour come under keir starmer, that can offer that leadership of the answers— can offer that leadership of the answers to the challenges we face as answers to the challenges we face as a country _ answers to the challenges we face as a count . .. , answers to the challenges we face as acount . , ., , a country. rachel reeves, really aood of a country. rachel reeves, really good of you _ a country. rachel reeves, really good of you to — a country. rachel reeves, really good of you to join _ a country. rachel reeves, really good of you to join us _ a country. rachel reeves, really good of you to join us on - a country. rachel reeves, really good of you to join us on the i a country. rachel reeves, really l good of you to join us on the sofa. thank you very much.— good of you to join us on the sofa. l thank you very much._ 23 thank you very much. thank you. 23 minutes past — thank you very much. thank you. 23 minutes past seven. _ thank you very much. thank you. 23 minutes past seven. we _ thank you very much. thank you. 23 minutes past seven. we are - thank you very much. thank you. 23 minutes past seven. we are about i thank you very much. thank you. 23 | minutes past seven. we are about to be speaking to the health secretary, sajid javid, and about seven minutes. talking through some of those changes, changes in the plan b measures, which end next thursday, he will be going through the detail. we will ask him some questions about that. ., ., , we will ask him some questions about that. ., ., . , that. something that really affects --eole's that. something that really affects people's lives. _ that. something that really affects people's lives, they _ that. something that really affects people's lives, they seem - that. something that really affects people's lives, they seem simple i people's lives, they seem simple things, teeth, too thick. there is nothing worse. nhs dentistry is "hanging by a thread", with some patients waiting up to two—years for check—ups — that's the warning from the head of the british dental association. it comes as research by the bbc shows that around a thousand dentists left the nhs in england and wales last year. sharon grey from suffolk says she was forced to take matters into her own hands, after waiting more than 12 months for treatment. i've foiled them down with a metal foil. i've superglued them back in, and managed to superglue most of my mouth as well. erm, fixadent to try and hold a bridge onto my teeth, that doesn't work either. i think i must have covered most things now. i've worked all my life, paid my ni number. i worked for the nhs, even, and i was left in this situation. i think it's diabolical. that was sharon going through some of what she has been through. when you hear those stories, it really is shocking. we're joined now by sarfraz khan, who runs six practices across burnley and has been trying to fill some staff vacancies for nearly four years. good morning to you. i imagine, as you are hearing sharon's story, you must be thinking, wow, this is a lady who needs a dentist and needs it now? , ., ., ., , it now? first of all, i am based in barnsle it now? first of all, i am based in lzvarnsley in _ it now? first of all, i am based in barnsley in south _ it now? first of all, i am based in barnsley in south yorkshire. i it now? first of all, i am based in barnsley in south yorkshire. my i barnsley in south yorkshire. apologies. barnsley in south yorkshire. ij�*i apologies. let's barnsley in south yorkshire. ii apologies. let's not barnsley in south yorkshire. ii1: apologies. let's not dwell barnsley in south yorkshire. ii1 apologies. let's not dwell on that. you have my apologies. as to the issue of sharon's situation, and there will be many other people like, what is your experience? i agree with what he she is saying. the waiting times are getting longer~ — the waiting times are getting longer. people are not getting access— longer. people are not getting access to _ longer. people are not getting access to dentist, it is as simple as that — access to dentist, it is as simple as that. first of all, in march last yeari _ as that. first of all, in march last year. 2020, _ as that. first of all, in march last year, 2020, dental practices were completely shut down for a period of time _ completely shut down for a period of time that _ completely shut down for a period of time. that caused a backlog. on top of that _ time. that caused a backlog. on top of that we — time. that caused a backlog. on top of that, we are actually finding it very difficult to get a dentist to come _ very difficult to get a dentist to come and — very difficult to get a dentist to come and work. they are just not interested — come and work. they are just not interested in coming to work, which is making _ interested in coming to work, which is making waiting times go through the ceiling. is making waiting times go through the ceilin. , , .,, is making waiting times go through the ceilinu. , , .,, i. is making waiting times go through the ceilin. , , .,, i. ., the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to _ the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to talk— the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to talk to _ the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to talk to us _ the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to talk to us about - the ceiling. very pleased you have come on to talk to us about it i come on to talk to us about it today. if i live near you, and i want to be an nhs, i want an nhs dentist, cani want to be an nhs, i want an nhs dentist, can i get on my books and how long will i have to wait? you would be able _ how long will i have to wait? you would be able to _ how long will i have to wait? you would be able to get on the books straightaway. you have to remember, it is not _ straightaway. you have to remember, it is not a _ straightaway. you have to remember, it is not a matter of getting on the books _ it is not a matter of getting on the books you — it is not a matter of getting on the books, you actually want treatment. getting _ books, you actually want treatment. getting on— books, you actually want treatment. getting on the books, getting in the registry— getting on the books, getting in the registry is— getting on the books, getting in the registry is relatively easy. getting the treatment you require is different. it the treatment you require is different-— the treatment you require is different. , ., ., ., different. it is naga good morning. can ou different. it is naga good morning. can you explain — different. it is naga good morning. can you explain how— different. it is naga good morning. can you explain how dentists i different. it is naga good morning. can you explain how dentists are i can you explain how dentists are paid? there seems to be a difference between city centre and rural. what is the difference in terms of what they are paid? let is the difference in terms of what they are paid?— they are paid? let me put it in simle they are paid? let me put it in simple terms _ they are paid? let me put it in simple terms to _ they are paid? let me put it in simple terms to you. - they are paid? let me put it in simple terms to you. a - they are paid? let me put it inj simple terms to you. a dentist they are paid? let me put it in i simple terms to you. a dentist gets paid due _ simple terms to you. a dentist gets paid due to— simple terms to you. a dentist gets paid due to dental activity. if i could — paid due to dental activity. if i could do— paid due to dental activity. if i could do less work and earn the same amount _ could do less work and earn the same amount, human beings will do the more _ amount, human beings will do the more they— amount, human beings will do the more they can, the less they can, the more — more they can, the less they can, the more they can.— more they can, the less they can, the more they can. how does that chan u e the more they can. how does that change whether _ the more they can. how does that change whether you _ the more they can. how does that change whether you are _ the more they can. how does that change whether you are in - the more they can. how does that change whether you are in the i the more they can. how does that j change whether you are in the city or the country?— or the country? manchester is an affluent city- _ or the country? manchester is an affluent city. patients _ or the country? manchester is an affluent city. patients there i or the country? manchester is an affluent city. patients there are i affluent city. patients there are aware _ affluent city. patients there are aware of — affluent city. patients there are aware of the dental health and will make _ aware of the dental health and will make sure — aware of the dental health and will make sure everything is up—to—date. i make sure everything is up—to—date. i say _ make sure everything is up—to—date. lsay~ 50_ make sure everything is up-to-date. i sa . , make sure everything is up-to-date. | sa _ , . ., make sure everything is up-to-date. isa . , , i say. so when they come in, they robabl i say. so when they come in, they probably require _ i say. so when they come in, they probably require something i i say. so when they come in, they probably require something very i probably require something very straightforward to have done. whereas _ straightforward to have done. whereas in the rural areas, patients only come _ whereas in the rural areas, patients only come when they are in dire straits — only come when they are in dire straits i — only come when they are in dire straits. ,, , ., , straits. isay. it is an interesting insiaht straits. isay. it is an interesting insight into _ straits. i say. it is an interesting insight into what's _ straits. i say. it is an interesting insight into what's going - straits. i say. it is an interesting insight into what's going on - straits. i say. it is an interesting insight into what's going on in l straits. i say. it is an interesting i insight into what's going on in the world of dentistry. not that we will talk about it again. thank you so much. thank you. have a really nice day. comina thank you. have a really nice day. coming up--- _ thank you. have a really nice day. coming up... they _ thank you. have a really nice day. coming up... they are _ thank you. have a really nice day. coming up... they are designed . thank you. have a really nice day. | coming up... they are designed to have you check your luggage or your keys, but there are concerns the technology behind air attacks could also be used to stalk people. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. people in london will still need to wear a mask on tubes, buses and trams despite the lifting of restrictions due next week. yesterday, the prime minister boris johnson said masks would no longer be needed in shops, schools, or public transport. but the mayor of london sadiq khan says masks will still a condition of travel on tfl services. around 30 per cent of londoners are unvaccinated. the number of nhs dentists in london fell by around 10 per cent last year according to new nhs figures. the british dental association says dentistry is "hanging by a thread" with some people waiting for up to two years for routine check—ups and many dentists leaving. nhs england says there was additionalfunding during the pandemic and hundreds of urgent dental centres were set up across england. a number of london mps have written to the royal mail to express concern over delays to deliveries in parts of the capital. some londoners are only now starting to receive post sent before christmas. royal mail says the problems are only affecting a small number of areas and are the result of staff shortages caused by the pandemic. you may recognise him from playing the cello at prince harry and meghan�*s wedding, now sheku kanneh—mason has gone back to school to inspire children. the charity london music masters helps bring music lessons to primary schools across the capital — and this one in southwark — was lucky enough to get a master class from him. with the music, there is so much spontaneity required to be able to play together with the children and for them to hear my sound up close, hopefully when they come to practice again, they can remember the sound they have heard. let's take a look at the tubes. just the part closure of the northern line until mid may for major works. onto the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. a few splashes of rain yesterday and it felt milder but today we are back into the chilly air and high pressure building from the west set to keep us dry as we head through the rest of the week and there will be some more frosty nights to come in more fog returning over the weekend. visibility not too bad this morning but there is a widespread frost to start the morning, and temperatures have dipped below freezing for many of us and we will see a lot of blue sky and sunshine and a pretty winter's day but feeling cold with a chilly northerly wind and temperatures not getting past amid single figures or for five celsius for most. as we head for the evening and overnight there will be a widespread sharp frost and temperatures for many away from the towns might drop as low as —3 or minus four celsius and perhaps a mist forming on friday. on friday the high pressure is firmly with us and that will keep us dry, and we have milder air feeding around it as well and there will be a bit more in the way of cloud and the high pressure will last as we head through the weekend so it is dry and that will see a return to the misty, foggy mornings and where we see the fog it will be very slow to lift and clear. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. now though it's back to naga and charlie. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. secondary school pupils in england will no longer need to wear face masks in class from this morning, as the government's plan b measures are phased out. advice to work from home has also ended, and from next thursday, mandatory face coverings in public places and covid passports, previously used to gain entry to nightclubs and large events, will both be axed. lots to talk about this mornining with the health secretary sajid javid, who joins us from westminster. a lot of people coming to terms with the changes you've announced with plan b measures coming to an end from next thursday. how certain are you that this is the right time to relax those rules? i you that this is the right time to relax those rules?— relax those rules? i am certain because not — relax those rules? i am certain because not least _ relax those rules? i am certain because not least its _ relax those rules? i am certain because not least its based - relax those rules? i am certain because not least its based on| relax those rules? i am certain . because not least its based on the data and _ because not least its based on the data and the best advice and it is a new chapter in the fight against covid-19 — new chapter in the fight against covid—i9 as we return to plan a and we said _ covid—i9 as we return to plan a and we said when we learned about omicron — we said when we learned about omicron that we needed to build the defences— omicron that we needed to build the defences and by type to do this and that was_ defences and by type to do this and that was the purpose of lambie and when _ that was the purpose of lambie and when you _ that was the purpose of lambie and when you look at the data now, it's in retreat _ when you look at the data now, it's in retreat and that's happened for a number— in retreat and that's happened for a number of— in retreat and that's happened for a number of reasons but if i had to pick one — number of reasons but if i had to pick one reason for that it would be the answer— pick one reason for that it would be the answer to the core to get boosted _ the answer to the core to get boosted. i5 the answer to the core to get boosted. 15 million people across the uk _ boosted. 15 million people across the uk came forward and we are now the uk came forward and we are now the nrost _ the uk came forward and we are now the most boosted country in europe and there's— the most boosted country in europe and there's still more to do but with— and there's still more to do but with eight— and there's still more to do but with eight out of ten eligible adults— with eight out of ten eligible adults boosted, that's a fantastic turnout _ adults boosted, that's a fantastic turnout from people and i want to thank— turnout from people and i want to thank each — turnout from people and i want to thank each and every one of them for what they— thank each and every one of them for what they have done and how they protect _ what they have done and how they protect themselves and how they've protected _ protect themselves and how they've protected the country in the way they have — protected the country in the way they have on the nhs workers on the volunteers, _ they have on the nhs workers on the volunteers, which is why we can make this announcement yesterday which is that from _ this announcement yesterday which is that from today we no longer require people _ that from today we no longer require people to _ that from today we no longer require people to require them to work from home _ people to require them to work from home and _ people to require them to work from home and from thursday next week there _ home and from thursday next week there will— home and from thursday next week there will be no mandatory use of there will be no mandatory use of the nhs _ there will be no mandatory use of the nhs covid pass or face coverings and if— the nhs covid pass or face coverings and if i _ the nhs covid pass or face coverings and if i may— the nhs covid pass or face coverings and if i may say so it does not mean by any— and if i may say so it does not mean by any means— and if i may say so it does not mean by any means that covid is not a problem — by any means that covid is not a problem and the prevalence is still hi-h problem and the prevalence is still high and _ problem and the prevalence is still high and the plan a measure is still staying _ high and the plan a measure is still staying in— high and the plan a measure is still staying in place and the most important thing that anyone can still do — important thing that anyone can still do to— important thing that anyone can still do to help is get vaccinated if they— still do to help is get vaccinated if they haven't come forward already with your _ if they haven't come forward already with your first job if they haven't come forward already with your firstjob or if they haven't come forward already with your first job or boosterjab, that is— with your first job or boosterjab, that is the — with your first job or boosterjab, that is the best thing we can all do to protect — that is the best thing we can all do to protect ourselves but also to learn _ to protect ourselves but also to learn to — to protect ourselves but also to learn to live with covert. you might be many peeple _ learn to live with covert. you might be many people agree _ learn to live with covert. you might be many people agree with - learn to live with covert. you might be many people agree with your - be many people agree with your approach but ijust want be many people agree with your approach but i just want to ask you again about the evidence that you are using for the timing, because you said there's a number of factors. what the prime minister said yesterday as one example of the figures was that hospital admissions are stabilising, and i know in certain places that varies and i'm hearing in london they are falling but stabilising is not a good situation and is better than growing but it's not a good situation so hospital admissions are stabilising, so why is now the time?— so why is now the time? hospital admissions _ so why is now the time? hospital admissions are _ so why is now the time? hospital admissions are stable _ so why is now the time? hospital admissions are stable but - so why is now the time? hospital admissions are stable but overall} admissions are stable but overall they are — admissions are stable but overall they are falling and i can speak more _ they are falling and i can speak more specifically about hospitalisations in england when it comes— hospitalisations in england when it comes to — hospitalisations in england when it comes to the nhs and hospitals, i am responsible _ comes to the nhs and hospitals, i am responsible for england and the numbers— responsible for england and the numbers in terms of people in hospital— numbers in terms of people in hospital during the omicron wave, they have — hospital during the omicron wave, they have been as high as 18,000 in hospital— they have been as high as 18,000 in hospital and that is now around 15500 _ hospital and that is now around 15500 and they have been falling in london _ 15500 and they have been falling in london and other regions as well and i will london and other regions as well and iwill say— london and other regions as well and i will say in _ london and other regions as well and i will say in in — london and other regions as well and i will say in in the north—east this is a strong — i will say in in the north—east this is a strong pressure and they are not falling — is a strong pressure and they are not falling yet, but overall they have _ not falling yet, but overall they have certainly stabilised in every region— have certainly stabilised in every region and they started falling. we also know— region and they started falling. we also know when we look at the data they lack _ also know when we look at the data they lack case numbers and infections and because we know that cases— infections and because we know that cases are _ infections and because we know that cases are falling, it's reasonable and this— cases are falling, it's reasonable and this is— cases are falling, it's reasonable and this is what has happened and they will— and this is what has happened and they will continue to fall. the other— they will continue to fall. the other thing i can say about hospitalisations is the disproportionate number of people in hospital. _ disproportionate number of people in hospital, certainly those in intensive care are unvaccinated so when _ intensive care are unvaccinated so when i _ intensive care are unvaccinated so when i visited a unit a couple of weeks — when i visited a unit a couple of weeks ago _ when i visited a unit a couple of weeks ago in london the consultant in charge _ weeks ago in london the consultant in charge told me that 70% of the people _ in charge told me that 70% of the people in— in charge told me that 70% of the people in i— in charge told me that 70% of the people in i see you, in intensive care _ people in i see you, in intensive care were — people in i see you, in intensive care were unvaccinated and some 90% were not— care were unvaccinated and some 90% were not boosted, so that tells us something — were not boosted, so that tells us something which that the vaccines work and — something which that the vaccines work and having your boosterjab works _ work and having your boosterjab works and — work and having your boosterjab works and that is something we can all still— works and that is something we can all still do _ works and that is something we can all still do if — works and that is something we can all still do if we are not vaccinated.— all still do if we are not vaccinated. . ., ,, ., ., ., vaccinated. can i talk to about one ofthe vaccinated. can i talk to about one of the other— vaccinated. can i talk to about one of the other thing _ vaccinated. can i talk to about one of the other thing suggested, - of the other thing suggested, looking ahead the government saying by the end of march with my get rid of isolation altogether meaning that you take a test and even if it is positive you can carry on as you would normally and you can do normal things. why don't you do that now? what is the evidence you are waiting for? we what is the evidence you are waiting for? ~ ., , what is the evidence you are waiting for? . . , ., . what is the evidence you are waiting for? . . , . . . for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence — for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence is _ for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence is still _ for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence is still high _ for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence is still high so - for? we are still in a pandemic and prevalence is still high so although| prevalence is still high so although it's falling — prevalence is still high so although it's falling and it's heading in the right— it's falling and it's heading in the right direction at this point, we don't _ right direction at this point, we don't want _ right direction at this point, we don't want to rush to judgment. what don't want to rush to 'udgment. what are the don't want to rush to 'udgment. what the figures _ don't want to rush to 'udgment. what are the figures you _ don't want to rush to judgment. transit are the figures you have don't want to rush to judgment. wusgt are the figures you have been looking at, i'd like some clarity, what are the figures you've been looking at to bring the complete relaxation into isolation into place but what are the specific numbers and that is the determinant, so what is that? i and that is the determinant, so what is that? .., �* and that is the determinant, so what is that? .. �* , ., and that is the determinant, so what is that? .. �* i. .. is that? i can't tell you exact numbers _ is that? i can't tell you exact numbers but _ is that? i can't tell you exact numbers but looking - is that? i can't tell you exact numbers but looking at - is that? i can't tell you exact numbers but looking at the i is that? i can't tell you exact - numbers but looking at the things we might— numbers but looking at the things we might look— numbers but looking at the things we might look at, it's the overall prevalence rate and at the moment it is one _ prevalence rate and at the moment it is one in— prevalence rate and at the moment it is one in 20 _ prevalence rate and at the moment it is one in 20 in england and we will look at _ is one in 20 in england and we will look at the — is one in 20 in england and we will look at the case numbers and offices they are _ look at the case numbers and offices they are falling at the moment and we want _ they are falling at the moment and we want to— they are falling at the moment and we want to see it continue and hospitalisation numbers will be key and linked to all of that is the vaccinations and the take up and when _ vaccinations and the take up and when when you look at vaccinations and those _ when when you look at vaccinations and those most severely ill, those that are _ and those most severely ill, those that are unvaccinated and those that have not— that are unvaccinated and those that have not got their boosterjab, they are the _ have not got their boosterjab, they are the most at risk. to have not got their booster 'ab, they are the most at risk._ are the most at risk. to be clear. i'm sorry — are the most at risk. to be clear. i'm sorry to _ are the most at risk. to be clear. i'm sorry to interrupt, _ are the most at risk. to be clear. i'm sorry to interrupt, but - are the most at risk. to be clear. i'm sorry to interrupt, but i'm - i'm sorry to interrupt, but i'm trying to get some clarity, if you are not seeing significant changes in the figure you gave me was 15,500 people in hospital at the moment and if you've not seen a significant change in the number, just over the horizon, the prospect of the end of march, no restrictions, no isolation, that will have to remain in place unless there is a significant change in that number? would that be right. it significant change in that number? would that be right.— would that be right. it would be riaht would that be right. it would be ri . ht to would that be right. it would be right to link _ would that be right. it would be right to link it _ would that be right. it would be right to link it to _ would that be right. it would be| right to link it to hospitalisations in what — right to link it to hospitalisations in what we see but notjust right to link it to hospitalisations in what we see but not just that. right to link it to hospitalisations in what we see but notjust that. we will look— in what we see but notjust that. we will look at — in what we see but notjust that. we will look at other data as well. the kind of— will look at other data as well. the kind of data i mentioned but i do think— kind of data i mentioned but i do think it's — kind of data i mentioned but i do think it's not right to make the decision— think it's not right to make the decisionjust the act think it's not right to make the decision just the act and we have notjust— decision just the act and we have notjust yet but decision just the act and we have not just yet but we've said decision just the act and we have notjust yet but we've said it is under— notjust yet but we've said it is under review and we will make a decision— under review and we will make a decision before march because the current— decision before march because the current legislation would have to be renewed _ current legislation would have to be renewed unless we decide otherwise and it— renewed unless we decide otherwise and it is— renewed unless we decide otherwise and it is important and i want to make— and it is important and i want to make this — and it is important and i want to make this point because i didn't say a bit about— make this point because i didn't say a bit about this yesterday in the press _ a bit about this yesterday in the press conference that we continue to find ways _ press conference that we continue to find ways to — press conference that we continue to find ways to learn to live with covid — find ways to learn to live with covid and _ find ways to learn to live with covid and that's why i compared it with the _ covid and that's why i compared it with the flu because we are in a very— with the flu because we are in a very sick— with the flu because we are in a very sick -- _ with the flu because we are in a very sick —— different situation than _ very sick —— different situation than we — very sick —— different situation than we were than at the start of the pandemic where we have vaccines, anti-virals _ the pandemic where we have vaccines, anti—virals and other treatments and testing _ anti—virals and other treatments and testing infrastructure and in all three _ testing infrastructure and in all three of— testing infrastructure and in all three of those we are the best and strongest — three of those we are the best and strongest in europe and these are the kind _ strongest in europe and these are the kind of— strongest in europe and these are the kind of defences, the pharmaceutical defences that allow us to find _ pharmaceutical defences that allow us to find ways to live with covid and eventually i think we want to be in a position— and eventually i think we want to be in a position where we can see this as a disease — in a position where we can see this as a disease like flu but something still bad _ as a disease like flu but something still had and nobody wants to get the flu _ still had and nobody wants to get the flu and even with flu we see years _ the flu and even with flu we see years where we have too many deaths but we _ years where we have too many deaths but we want _ years where we have too many deaths but we want to see a situation where we learn _ but we want to see a situation where we learn to _ but we want to see a situation where we learn to live with it and not have _ we learn to live with it and not have restrictions that have such an impact _ have restrictions that have such an impact on — have restrictions that have such an impact on wider society. gn have restrictions that have such an impact on wider society.— impact on wider society. on the sub'ect impact on wider society. on the subject of _ impact on wider society. on the subject of living _ impact on wider society. on the subject of living with _ impact on wider society. on the subject of living with it - impact on wider society. on the subject of living with it which i impact on wider society. on the subject of living with it which a l subject of living with it which a lot of people have been thinking about all the time anyway, if i fast forward to this time next week and i think i got my dates right where there are no longer any restrictions on wearing facemask in public places, the supermarket for example, so next saturday, sajid javid and his family go to the supermarket armed with a trolley and have to pick up some stuff, will you be wearing a facemask?— pick up some stuff, will you be wearing a facemask? next saturday there will rrot _ wearing a facemask? next saturday there will not be _ wearing a facemask? next saturday there will not be a _ wearing a facemask? next saturday there will not be a legal— there will not be a legal requirement.— there will not be a legal requirement. there will not be a legal reauirement. ~ , ., , ., ., requirement. will you be wearing a facemask? will— requirement. will you be wearing a facemask? will i _ requirement. will you be wearing a facemask? will i be _ requirement. will you be wearing a facemask? will i be wearing - requirement. will you be wearing a facemask? will i be wearing a - facemask? will i be wearing a facemask. _ facemask? will i be wearing a facemask. l— facemask? will i be wearing a facemask, i think _ facemask? will i be wearing a facemask, ithink i _ facemask? will i be wearing a facemask, i think i probably i facemask? will i be wearing a - facemask, i think i probably would be. ~ , , facemask, i think i probably would be. . , , . facemask, i think i probably would be-_ because - facemask, i think i probably would i be._ because prevalence be. why is that? because prevalence is still high- — be. why is that? because prevalence is still high. and — be. why is that? because prevalence is still high. and there _ be. why is that? because prevalence is still high. and there will— be. why is that? because prevalence is still high. and there will be - is still high. and there will be people. — is still high. and there will be people, especially if i'm going to my local— people, especially if i'm going to my local shop which is small and enclosed — my local shop which is small and enclosed and can have quite a few people _ enclosed and can have quite a few people in— enclosed and can have quite a few people in one time in a small space and is _ people in one time in a small space and is quite — people in one time in a small space and is quite enclosed and i don't know— and is quite enclosed and i don't know most— and is quite enclosed and i don't know most of those people, so i think— know most of those people, so i think that — know most of those people, so i think that would be sensible and it would _ think that would be sensible and it would be _ think that would be sensible and it would be sensible on the tube in london. — would be sensible on the tube in london. for— would be sensible on the tube in london, for example, quite an enclosed — london, for example, quite an enclosed space but people will be asked _ enclosed space but people will be asked to — enclosed space but people will be asked to make their own personal judgment. — asked to make their own personal judgment, just as we do in fighting the flu _ judgment, just as we do in fighting the flu and — judgment, just as we do in fighting the flu and other things, people have _ the flu and other things, people have to — the flu and other things, people have to make a personaljudgment and i don't _ have to make a personaljudgment and i don't think— have to make a personaljudgment and i don't think it can be right to idon't think it can be right to keep— i don't think it can be right to keep rules in place that require people — keep rules in place that require people to — keep rules in place that require people to do things or wear facemasks without reviewing them. i understand that people this morning will hear how the rules are relaxed. and in the same breath the health secretary is saying you don't wear a mask any more, so you can see that is a little mixed? irate mask any more, so you can see that is a little mixed?— is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan _ is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan a _ is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan a and _ is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan a and that's _ is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan a and that's where - is a little mixed? we are returning back to plan a and that's where we were _ back to plan a and that's where we were before, not by government diktat _ were before, not by government diktat exercising your own personal responsibility and you can make that decision— responsibility and you can make that decision and by and large the british— decision and by and large the british people have responded very positively— british people have responded very positively and sensibly throughout this pandemic and that is what we will continue to see.— this pandemic and that is what we will continue to see. some people think that will continue to see. some people thinkthat the — will continue to see. some people think that the reason _ will continue to see. some people think that the reason is _ will continue to see. some people think that the reason is all - will continue to see. some people think that the reason is all of - think that the reason is all of these measures have been brought in his pure politics. this is about saving the skin of the prime minister. ., , ., saving the skin of the prime minister-— saving the skin of the prime minister. ., , ., , ., ., minister. people would be wrong to think that and — minister. people would be wrong to think that and i'll— minister. people would be wrong to think that and i'll tell _ minister. people would be wrong to think that and i'll tell you _ minister. people would be wrong to think that and i'll tell you why. - minister. people would be wrong to think that and i'll tell you why. i - think that and i'll tell you why. i don't _ think that and i'll tell you why. i don't if— think that and i'll tell you why. i don't if you _ think that and i'll tell you why. i don't if you had any time, or any of your— don't if you had any time, or any of your viewers, — don't if you had any time, or any of yourviewers, if don't if you had any time, or any of your viewers, if anyone saw the press _ your viewers, if anyone saw the press conference yesterday that i held with — press conference yesterday that i held with doctor susan hopkins, one of the _ held with doctor susan hopkins, one of the top _ held with doctor susan hopkins, one of the top immunologist, she set out very clearly _ of the top immunologist, she set out very clearly the data that we are following — very clearly the data that we are following and how government advisers — following and how government advisers have recommended the action taken given— advisers have recommended the action taken given the fact it is their view, — taken given the fact it is their view, as— taken given the fact it is their view, as it _ taken given the fact it is their view, as it is of the ministers, that— view, as it is of the ministers, that we — view, as it is of the ministers, that we have reached the peak of cases _ that we have reached the peak of cases infections and hospitalisations. covid is not over and is _ hospitalisations. covid is not over and is still— hospitalisations. covid is not over and is still out there and we need to behave — and is still out there and we need to behave responsibly and sensibly, but the _ to behave responsibly and sensibly, but the defence we have got, the vaccines — but the defence we have got, the vaccines in the antivirus. we spend a lot of time _ vaccines in the antivirus. we spend a lot of time talking _ vaccines in the antivirus. we spend a lot of time talking about - vaccines in the antivirus. we spend a lot of time talking about that - vaccines in the antivirus. we spend a lot of time talking about that and i want to focus on the politics of this and this is very important and us health secretary must be frustrated, and i have a stack of newspapers here —— and you are the health secretary. in the name of god, go. battling on. the pm fights on as plotters pulled back from the brink. you try to make an announcement of the public about health yesterday, and this stuff about your leader has taken all the limelight away from it and you must be massively frustrated, if not angry with your leader for putting that out there and messing with the message that you are trying to point out. �* . message that you are trying to point out. �* , ., , ., , out. i'm 'ust getting on with my 'ob to the out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best — out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best of fl out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best of my �* out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best of my ability. i out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best of my ability. i i out. i'm just getting on with my 'ob to the best of my ability. i thinkh to the best of my ability. i think it's fair— to the best of my ability. i think it's fair to — to the best of my ability. i think it's fair to say it's one of the most — it's fair to say it's one of the most importantjobs it's fair to say it's one of the most important jobs there it's fair to say it's one of the most importantjobs there is right now to _ most importantjobs there is right now to deal with this pandemic. do ou now to deal with this pandemic. you agree now to deal with this pandemic. dr? you agree that it has got in the way of the message you are trying to put out? ., ., �* ~ , out? no, i don't. the prime minister himselfwas— out? no, i don't. the prime minister himself was in _ out? no, i don't. the prime minister himself was in parliament _ out? no, i don't. the prime minister himself was in parliament yesterday | himself was in parliament yesterday and made _ himself was in parliament yesterday and made the announcements around covid _ and made the announcements around covid on _ and made the announcements around covid on the — and made the announcements around covid on the next steps and spent two hours — covid on the next steps and spent two hours in parliament, notjust making _ two hours in parliament, notjust making a — two hours in parliament, notjust making a statement are taking questions from mp after mp and it's the prime _ questions from mp after mp and it's the prime minister's leadership in this pandemic in terms of the vaccination programme and the procurement of the anti—virals and testing _ procurement of the anti—virals and testing infrastructure, it is this that is— testing infrastructure, it is this that is getting us through this pandemic. if that is getting us through this pandemic. lfl that is getting us through this pandemic-— pandemic. ifi may, one last question _ pandemic. ifi may, one last question and _ pandemic. ifi may, one last question and it's _ pandemic. ifi may, one last question and it's a _ pandemic. ifi may, one last question and it's a simple i pandemic. ifi may, one last i question and it's a simple one. pandemic. ifi may, one last - question and it's a simple one. is the prime minister safe in hisjob? many people have seen an mp defecting to the labour party yesterday and they will have seen a significant figure in the conservative party directly, in the commons, calling for the prime minister to go. is he safe? yes. i think years- _ minister to go. is he safe? yes. i think years- at — minister to go. is he safe? yes. i think years. at the _ minister to go. is he safe? yes. i think years. at the same - minister to go. is he safe? yes. i think years. at the same time i minister to go. is he safe? yes. i - think years. at the same time people are right _ think years. at the same time people are right to— think years. at the same time people are right to be angered and pained about— are right to be angered and pained about what they have seen and heard and i share _ about what they have seen and heard and i share that anger and pain and ithink— and i share that anger and pain and ithink it— and i share that anger and pain and ithink it is— and i share that anger and pain and i think it is right that there is a proper— i think it is right that there is a proper investigation going into this that will— proper investigation going into this that will establish the facts and the prime minister will come back to parliament— the prime minister will come back to parliament and properly respond. we parliament and properly respond. appreciate parliament and properly respond. , appreciate your time this morning. thank you very much. tell me there is some sport under way. tell me there is some sport under wa . r , ~ . tell me there is some sport under wa. y~ , way. andy murray is playing, but he has lost the — way. andy murray is playing, but he has lost the first _ way. andy murray is playing, but he has lost the first set, _ way. andy murray is playing, but he has lost the first set, but _ way. andy murray is playing, but he has lost the first set, but dan - has lost the first set, but dan evans — has lost the first set, but dan evans went through without hitting a ball as _ evans went through without hitting a ball as his— evans went through without hitting a ball as his opponent was injured and heather— ball as his opponent was injured and heather watson has gone out in straight — heather watson has gone out in straight sets but all the focus is on andy— straight sets but all the focus is on andy murray with emma raducanu to come later _ remember andy murray is coming into this match, on the back of the epic 5 setter, against nikolas basilashvili n the first round, and that may play its part just slightly below murray in the world rankings, but he paid the price for too many unforced errors early on and it was the fresher looking daniel, who took the advantage, breaking the murray serve. murray did find the strength and determination we've seen from him so often, to break back a couple of games later, however, daniel is on top now — he broke serve again, and took the opening set. the draw has opened up for emma raducanu, who's due on court at around 8 o'clock against danka kovinic, a potential very tricky 4th round opponent would have been muguruz but she has been knocked out this morning in a real surprise, she was the 3rd seed, and a former grand slam winner, but was beaten by cornet. the aussie diamonds pulled away yesterday to win 58—46. delighted to say we _ yesterday to win 58—46. delighted to say we can— yesterday to win 58—46. delighted to say we can speak to the england head coach _ say we can speak to the england head coach good _ say we can speak to the england head coach. good morning, jess, thanks forioining — coach. good morning, jess, thanks forioining us— coach. good morning, jess, thanks forjoining us and like so many others — forjoining us and like so many others i — forjoining us and like so many others i was glued to this last night, — others i was glued to this last night, on _ others i was glued to this last night, on the edge of the sofa. so exciting, — night, on the edge of the sofa. so exciting, england a point ahead going _ exciting, england a point ahead going into the final quarter but how australia _ going into the final quarter but how australia dominated the final quarter _ australia dominated the final quarter. how surprised with —— were you with _ quarter. how surprised with —— were you with what happened and how do you with what happened and how do you explain it? we you with what happened and how do you explain it?— you explain it? we aren't surprised, the are you explain it? we aren't surprised, they are number _ you explain it? we aren't surprised, they are number one _ you explain it? we aren't surprised, they are number one in _ you explain it? we aren't surprised, they are number one in the - you explain it? we aren't surprised, they are number one in the world i you explain it? we aren't surprised, | they are number one in the world for a reason _ they are number one in the world for a reason and — they are number one in the world for a reason and despite _ they are number one in the world for a reason and despite not _ they are number one in the world for a reason and despite not having - they are number one in the world for a reason and despite not having met| a reason and despite not having met them _ a reason and despite not having met them for— a reason and despite not having met them for the — a reason and despite not having met them for the last— a reason and despite not having met them for the last couple _ a reason and despite not having met them for the last couple of- a reason and despite not having met them for the last couple of years, i them for the last couple of years, we knew — them for the last couple of years, we knew we — them for the last couple of years, we knew we would _ them for the last couple of years, we knew we would have - them for the last couple of years, we knew we would have a - them for the last couple of years, we knew we would have a big - them for the last couple of years, | we knew we would have a big task them for the last couple of years, - we knew we would have a big task on our hands _ we knew we would have a big task on our hands and — we knew we would have a big task on our hands and we _ we knew we would have a big task on our hands and we did _ we knew we would have a big task on our hands and we did a _ we knew we would have a big task on our hands and we did a great- we knew we would have a big task on our hands and we did a greatjob - our hands and we did a greatjob through— our hands and we did a greatjob through the _ our hands and we did a greatjob through the series _ our hands and we did a greatjob through the series and _ our hands and we did a greatjob through the series and wanted i our hands and we did a greatjob| through the series and wanted to our hands and we did a greatjob - through the series and wanted to get into finals— through the series and wanted to get into finals are — through the series and wanted to get into finals are meet _ through the series and wanted to get into finals are meet australia - through the series and wanted to get into finals are meet australia more l into finals are meet australia more than once — into finals are meet australia more than once and _ into finals are meet australia more than once and we _ into finals are meet australia more than once and we push— into finals are meet australia more than once and we push them - into finals are meet australia more than once and we push them all. into finals are meet australia more | than once and we push them all the way the _ than once and we push them all the way the evening _ than once and we push them all the way the evening before _ than once and we push them all the way the evening before and - than once and we push them all the way the evening before and got - than once and we push them all the way the evening before and got the| way the evening before and got the draw and _ way the evening before and got the draw and had — way the evening before and got the draw and had them _ way the evening before and got the draw and had them chasing - way the evening before and got the draw and had them chasing us- way the evening before and got the draw and had them chasing us for. way the evening before and got the i draw and had them chasing us for the first 45— draw and had them chasing us for the first 45 minutes _ draw and had them chasing us for the first 45 minutes but _ draw and had them chasing us for the first 45 minutes but we _ draw and had them chasing us for the first 45 minutes but we lost _ draw and had them chasing us for the first 45 minutes but we lost our- first 45 minutes but we lost our foothold — first 45 minutes but we lost our foothold and _ first 45 minutes but we lost our foothold and weren't _ first 45 minutes but we lost our foothold and weren't able - first 45 minutes but we lost our foothold and weren't able on i first 45 minutes but we lost our. foothold and weren't able on this occasion— foothold and weren't able on this occasion to — foothold and weren't able on this occasion to get _ foothold and weren't able on this occasion to get the _ foothold and weren't able on this occasion to get the momentum l foothold and weren't able on this| occasion to get the momentum in foothold and weren't able on this - occasion to get the momentum in our favour— occasion to get the momentum in our favour and _ occasion to get the momentum in our favour and they — occasion to get the momentum in our favour and they are _ occasion to get the momentum in our favour and they are a _ occasion to get the momentum in our favour and they are a quality - occasion to get the momentum in our favour and they are a quality side, - favour and they are a quality side, ranked _ favour and they are a quality side, ranked number— favour and they are a quality side, ranked number one _ favour and they are a quality side, ranked number one and _ favour and they are a quality side, ranked number one and we - favour and they are a quality side, ranked number one and we just. favour and they are a quality side, i ranked number one and we just want to place _ ranked number one and we just want to place around — ranked number one and we just want to place around the _ ranked number one and we just want to place around the table _ ranked number one and we just want to place around the table with - ranked number one and we just want to place around the table with the i to place around the table with the bil to place around the table with the big guns— to place around the table with the big guns and _ to place around the table with the big guns and we _ to place around the table with the big guns and we need _ to place around the table with the big guns and we need finals- to place around the table with the i big guns and we need finals netball under— big guns and we need finals netball under our— big guns and we need finals netball under our belt _ big guns and we need finals netball under our belt and _ big guns and we need finals netball under our belt and we've _ big guns and we need finals netball under our belt and we've only - big guns and we need finals netball| under our belt and we've only made one final— under our belt and we've only made one final before _ under our belt and we've only made one final before in _ under our belt and we've only made one final before in 2018 _ under our belt and we've only made one final before in 2018 and - under our belt and we've only made one final before in 2018 and we i under our belt and we've only made i one final before in 2018 and we need more _ one final before in 2018 and we need more of— one final before in 2018 and we need more of that— one final before in 2018 and we need more of that and _ one final before in 2018 and we need more of that and we've _ one final before in 2018 and we need more of that and we've taken - one final before in 2018 and we need more of that and we've taken a - one final before in 2018 and we need more of that and we've taken a huge j more of that and we've taken a huge learning _ more of that and we've taken a huge learning from — more of that and we've taken a huge learning from this _ more of that and we've taken a huge learning from this recent _ more of that and we've taken a huge learning from this recent series. i learning from this recent series. you have — learning from this recent series. you have so— learning from this recent series. you have so much— learning from this recent series. you have so much to _ learning from this recent series. you have so much to be - learning from this recent series. you have so much to be proud l learning from this recent series. i you have so much to be proud of. learning from this recent series. - you have so much to be proud of. how much _ you have so much to be proud of. how much can— you have so much to be proud of. how much can you — you have so much to be proud of. how much can you take from the week of -- the _ much can you take from the week of -- the week— much can you take from the week of —— the week as a whole of the commonwealth games in the summer. the series— commonwealth games in the summer. the series was so important in our international— the series was so important in our international calendar _ the series was so important in our international calendar to _ the series was so important in our international calendar to play- the series was so important in our international calendar to play the i international calendar to play the top teams — international calendar to play the top teams in _ international calendar to play the top teams in the _ international calendar to play the top teams in the world _ international calendar to play the top teams in the world as - international calendar to play the top teams in the world as well i international calendar to play the top teams in the world as well as having _ top teams in the world as well as having gone _ top teams in the world as well as having gone over— top teams in the world as well as having gone over to— top teams in the world as well as having gone over to new- top teams in the world as well as having gone over to new zealand early _ having gone over to new zealand early in _ having gone over to new zealand early in the — having gone over to new zealand early in the autumn— having gone over to new zealand early in the autumn and - having gone over to new zealand early in the autumn and having i having gone over to new zealand i early in the autumn and having the home _ early in the autumn and having the home series — early in the autumn and having the home series against _ early in the autumn and having the home series against jamaica, - early in the autumn and having the home series against jamaica, we i early in the autumn and having the i home series against jamaica, we feel really— home series against jamaica, we feel really well—prepared. _ home series against jamaica, we feel really well—prepared. it's _ home series against jamaica, we feel really well—prepared. it's the - home series against jamaica, we feel really well—prepared. it's the first i really well—prepared. it's the first time _ really well—prepared. it's the first time we _ really well—prepared. it's the first time we introduced _ really well—prepared. it's the first time we introduced the _ really well—prepared. it's the first time we introduced the finals i really well—prepared. it's the first time we introduced the finals into the quad — time we introduced the finals into the quad series _ time we introduced the finals into the quad series and _ time we introduced the finals into the quad series and it— time we introduced the finals into the quad series and it was - time we introduced the finals into the quad series and it was what l time we introduced the finals into. the quad series and it was what we needed _ the quad series and it was what we needed and — the quad series and it was what we needed and played _ the quad series and it was what we needed and played out _ the quad series and it was what we needed and played out perfectly. needed and played out perfectly other— needed and played out perfectly other than— needed and played out perfectly other than the _ needed and played out perfectly other than the final— needed and played out perfectly other than the final 15 _ needed and played out perfectly other than the final 15 minutes i needed and played out perfectly. other than the final 15 minutes and there _ other than the final 15 minutes and there is— other than the final 15 minutes and there is a — other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot — other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot for _ other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot for the _ other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot for the group - other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot for the group to - other than the final 15 minutes and there is a lot for the group to be i there is a lot for the group to be incredibly— there is a lot for the group to be incredibly proud _ there is a lot for the group to be incredibly proud of, _ there is a lot for the group to be incredibly proud of, to _ there is a lot for the group to be incredibly proud of, to get - there is a lot for the group to be incredibly proud of, to get the i there is a lot for the group to be i incredibly proud of, to get the win over new— incredibly proud of, to get the win over new zealand _ incredibly proud of, to get the win over new zealand confirmed - incredibly proud of, to get the win over new zealand confirmed thatl incredibly proud of, to get the win i over new zealand confirmed that what we did _ over new zealand confirmed that what we did in— over new zealand confirmed that what we did in the _ over new zealand confirmed that what we did in the autumn _ over new zealand confirmed that what we did in the autumn was _ over new zealand confirmed that what we did in the autumn was pretty- we did in the autumn was pretty special, — we did in the autumn was pretty special, getting— we did in the autumn was pretty special, getting that _ we did in the autumn was pretty special, getting that historic- we did in the autumn was prettyj special, getting that historic win and as— special, getting that historic win and as i— special, getting that historic win and as i say, _ special, getting that historic win and as i say, we _ special, getting that historic win and as i say, we needed - special, getting that historic win and as i say, we needed to i special, getting that historic win| and as i say, we needed to meet special, getting that historic win i and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds _ and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team _ and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team and _ and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team and work— and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team and work out - and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team and work out what i and as i say, we needed to meet the diamonds team and work out what it takes _ diamonds team and work out what it takes to— diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat— diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat them _ diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat them and _ diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat them and we _ diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat them and we are - diamonds team and work out what it takes to beat them and we are going away with— takes to beat them and we are going away with a — takes to beat them and we are going away with a lot — takes to beat them and we are going away with a lot of _ takes to beat them and we are going away with a lot of information - takes to beat them and we are going away with a lot of information aboutl away with a lot of information about how to _ away with a lot of information about how to go _ away with a lot of information about how to go toe — away with a lot of information about how to go toe to _ away with a lot of information about how to go toe to toe _ away with a lot of information about how to go toe to toe with _ away with a lot of information about how to go toe to toe with them i away with a lot of information aboutj how to go toe to toe with them next time _ how to go toe to toe with them next time. ., ., ., time. you mentioned it earlier, 2018, i was — time. you mentioned it earlier, 2018, i was lucky _ time. you mentioned it earlier, 2018, i was lucky to _ time. you mentioned it earlier, 2018, i was lucky to be - time. you mentioned it earlier, 2018, i was lucky to be there i time. you mentioned it earlier, | 2018, i was lucky to be there on time. you mentioned it earlier, i 2018, i was lucky to be there on the gold coast— 2018, i was lucky to be there on the gold coast with england beating australia to the gold medal at the commonwealth games. how much is this about what— commonwealth games. how much is this about what happened last night australia being intent on revenge? i'm sure _ australia being intent on revenge? i'm sure they are. both sides have changed _ i'm sure they are. both sides have changed significantly— i'm sure they are. both sides have changed significantly in _ i'm sure they are. both sides have changed significantly in both- changed significantly in both coaches _ changed significantly in both coaches have _ changed significantly in both coaches have changed - changed significantly in both coaches have changed but i changed significantly in both| coaches have changed but as changed significantly in both- coaches have changed but as you say, to be _ coaches have changed but as you say, to be them _ coaches have changed but as you say, to be them on— coaches have changed but as you say, to be them on their— coaches have changed but as you say, to be them on their home _ coaches have changed but as you say, to be them on their home soil- coaches have changed but as you say, to be them on their home soil back. to be them on their home soil back in 2018— to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will— to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will have _ to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will have hurt _ to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will have hurt —— _ to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will have hurt —— to - to be them on their home soil back in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat i in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them _ in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them they _ in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them. they will _ in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them. they will be _ in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them. they will be out - in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them. they will be out to - in 2018 will have hurt —— to beat them. they will be out to beat i in 2018 will have hurt —— to beati them. they will be out to beat us back— them. they will be out to beat us back in— them. they will be out to beat us back in birmingham _ them. they will be out to beat us back in birmingham but- them. they will be out to beat us back in birmingham but we - them. they will be out to beat us back in birmingham but we are i them. they will be out to beat us i back in birmingham but we are trying to do our— back in birmingham but we are trying to do our best — back in birmingham but we are trying to do our best to _ back in birmingham but we are trying to do our best to disrupt _ back in birmingham but we are trying to do our best to disrupt that - back in birmingham but we are trying to do our best to disrupt that world i to do our best to disrupt that world order— to do our best to disrupt that world order in— to do our best to disrupt that world order in netball— to do our best to disrupt that world order in netball and _ to do our best to disrupt that world order in netball and we _ to do our best to disrupt that world order in netball and we are - to do our best to disrupt that world | order in netball and we are tracking well and _ order in netball and we are tracking well and it's— order in netball and we are tracking well and it's probably— order in netball and we are tracking well and it's probably been - order in netball and we are tracking well and it's probably been the i order in netball and we are tracking | well and it's probably been the most successful— well and it's probably been the most successful year — well and it's probably been the most successful year leading _ well and it's probably been the most successful year leading into - well and it's probably been the most successful year leading into a - well and it's probably been the most successful year leading into a majorl successful year leading into a major tournament— successful year leading into a major tournament so _ successful year leading into a major tournament so we _ successful year leading into a major tournament so we will— successful year leading into a major tournament so we will keep - successful year leading into a major tournament so we will keep going i tournament so we will keep going with that — tournament so we will keep going with that and _ tournament so we will keep going with that and take _ tournament so we will keep going with that and take the _ tournament so we will keep going with that and take the [earnings i with that and take the [earnings from _ with that and take the [earnings from the — with that and take the [earnings from the quad _ with that and take the [earnings from the quad series _ with that and take the [earnings from the quad series and - with that and take the [earnings i from the quad series and continue to .row from the quad series and continue to grow and _ from the quad series and continue to grow and hopefully— from the quad series and continue to grow and hopefully inspire _ from the quad series and continue to grow and hopefully inspire a - grow and hopefully inspire a generation— grow and hopefully inspire a generation to _ grow and hopefully inspire a generation to pick _ grow and hopefully inspire a generation to pick the - grow and hopefully inspire a i generation to pick the netball grow and hopefully inspire a - generation to pick the netball up themselves _ generation to pick the netball up themselves-_ generation to pick the netball up themselves. ~ , , t, , themselves. absolutely, that is the ke thin . themselves. absolutely, that is the key thing- that _ themselves. absolutely, that is the key thing. that was _ themselves. absolutely, that is the key thing. that was such _ themselves. absolutely, that is the key thing. that was such a - themselves. absolutely, that is the key thing. that was such a game i key thing. that was such a game changer — key thing. that was such a game changer. we have to leave it for now, _ changer. we have to leave it for now. and — changer. we have to leave it for now, and inspiring so many new people — now, and inspiring so many new people coming into the sport and providing — people coming into the sport and providing you with perhaps the next generation of roses stars and i'm sure we _ generation of roses stars and i'm sure we will speak ahead of the summen — sure we will speak ahead of the summer. what a summer entities with england _ summer. what a summer entities with england potentially beating australia again as commonwealth champion— australia again as commonwealth champion is and what a game changing n1etch— champion is and what a game changing match it _ champion is and what a game changing match it was _ champion is and what a game changing match it was in 2018 and so close until— match it was in 2018 and so close until the — match it was in 2018 and so close until the final quarter. are you looking — until the final quarter. are you looking andy murray? he until the final quarter. are you looking andy murray?- until the final quarter. are you looking andy murray? he lost the first set 6-4, — looking andy murray? he lost the first set 6-4, and _ looking andy murray? he lost the first set 6-4, and they _ looking andy murray? he lost the first set 6-4, and they are - looking andy murray? he lost the first set 6-4, and they are not. first set 6—4, and they are not showing the score at the moment. early in the second set but i think there's_ early in the second set but i think there's a — early in the second set but i think there's a long way to go. andy murray— there's a long way to go. andy murray showed in the first set, as you get— murray showed in the first set, as you get so— murray showed in the first set, as you get so —— as he gets over the five set _ you get so —— as he gets over the five set thriller, he is the murray of all. _ five set thriller, he is the murray of all. he — five set thriller, he is the murray of all, he has been roaring and punching — of all, he has been roaring and punching his fist. i think he can come _ punching his fist. i think he can come back _ punching his fist. i think he can come back-— punching his fist. i think he can come back. ~ , , �*, ., come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought- — come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought. one _ come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought. one game _ come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought. one game up - come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought. one game up in - come back. absolutely. let's go with that thought. one game up in the i that thought. one game up in the second set. _ that thought. one game up in the second set, just _ that thought. one game up in the second set, just seeing _ that thought. one game up in the second set, just seeing if - that thought. one game up in the second set, just seeing if he - that thought. one game up in the second set, just seeing if he can i second set, just seeing if he can break so. they're designed to help you track your personal belongings, like luggage, keys or a wallet, but there are concerns the technology behind apple's "airtags", could also be being used to stalk people. the small device sends an alert to the user's phone, notifying them of the whereabouts of an item, but as james clayton now reports, some women believe they've enabled people to follow them. my my phone and made a sound i had never heard before and i looked down at it and i did not register what it said and i was like, what does this say? and it told me an unknown accessory or device had been following my movement for a while. this is airtag. following my movement for a while. this is airtag— this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in _ this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in april _ this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in april last _ this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in april last year - this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in april last year and - this is airtag. apple airtags were launched in april last year and are designed to track or locate your personal belongings like a wallet, backpack or luggage. but in some cases they are being used to track people. amber is a mum of four children from mississippi and had taken her kids to the park. it got taken her kids to the park. it got on my car— taken her kids to the park. it got on my car at _ taken her kids to the park. it got on my car at 140 _ taken her kids to the park. it got on my car at 140 piece _ taken her kids to the park. it got on my car at 140 piece -- - taken her kids to the park. it got| on my car at 140 piece -- 1:47pm taken her kids to the park. it got i on my car at 140 piece --1:47pm at on my car at 140 piece —— 1:47pm at the park and followed me to my parents house and the ice cream shop and back to my home at 3:02pm and it alerted me and said that the last time the owner saw your location was at 3:02pm and i was like, that is right now. my home.— at 3:02pm and i was like, that is right now. my home. amber believes the device was _ right now. my home. amber believes the device was placed _ right now. my home. amber believes the device was placed somewhere i right now. my home. amber believes the device was placed somewhere oni the device was placed somewhere on her car but she has not been able to find it yet. we've spoken to six women dotted across america who have all told us a similar story. a message that pops up onto their phone telling them an unknown accessory has been moving with them and they all say it's pretty creepy. if you create an item which is useful— if you create an item which is useful for— if you create an item which is useful for tracking stolen items, then— useful for tracking stolen items, then you — useful for tracking stolen items, then you have also created a perfect tool for _ then you have also created a perfect tool for stalking. there is absolutely no doubt about it. this is not _ absolutely no doubt about it. this is not a _ absolutely no doubt about it. this is not a sort — absolutely no doubt about it. this is not a sort of made up harm, it is definitely— is not a sort of made up harm, it is definitely happening. but is not a sort of made up harm, it is definitely happening.— definitely happening. but many --eole definitely happening. but many peeple we've — definitely happening. but many people we've spoken _ definitely happening. but many people we've spoken to - definitely happening. but many people we've spoken to say i definitely happening. but many| people we've spoken to say that definitely happening. but many i people we've spoken to say that when they tell the police they do not know what to do and when they tell apple support, they aren't particular help. like anna from georgia who got a notification after going to the local supermarket. it going to the local supermarket. it is really scary. what i want apple to do is simply require these devices to ask permission before you can be followed.— can be followed. apple told the bbc that they put _ can be followed. apple told the bbc that they put safeguards _ can be followed. apple told the bbc that they put safeguards in - can be followed. apple told the bbc that they put safeguards in place i can be followed. apple told the bbc that they put safeguards in place so| that they put safeguards in place so the airtags will beep if they are detected in an unregistered device and users with iphones will be notified. if you have a android phone you can download an app to defend against unwanted attacks but apple argue that something worth more than £2 trillion should be doing more to stop its products to track and even stalk people. james clayton, bbc news, silicon valley. we're joined now by victoria song from the us tech website, "the verge", who has been reviewing apple's airtags. good morning to you, victoria. what do ou good morning to you, victoria. what do you make — good morning to you, victoria. what do you make of _ good morning to you, victoria. what do you make of this? _ good morning to you, victoria. transit do you make of this? good good morning to you, victoria. hisisgt do you make of this? good morning. yes, so airtags, they are super convenient but there is this downside to that sort of convenience. i've been testing these devices, and it can be pretty scary. when you think about it. i've been testing them and i gave one that was registered who me to my friend and i was basically able to track her, although i had her consent. that was basically able to track her, although i had her consent. at the moment they _ although i had her consent. at the moment they are _ although i had her consent. at the moment they are designed - although i had her consent. at the moment they are designed for- moment they are designed for tracking your luggage or tracking something like that. what is the solution to this?— solution to this? that's a great cuestion solution to this? that's a great question and — solution to this? that's a great question and i _ solution to this? that's a great question and i don't _ solution to this? that's a great question and i don't think i solution to this? that's a great question and i don't think we l question and i don't think we necessarily have a solution at this moment because it is such a novel technology. the way these things work is that they are sending out a bluetooth signal and devices that are on the apple network, basically every iphone that is compatible at the moment with the technology, they act as a beacon to find that device, so you lose your airtag and someone with an iphone walked by it and that iphone is going to ping the icloud to tell whether devices. 50 you can imagine that the network is extremely extensive now because there are billions of iphones out there, so you can track someone in real time. there, so you can track someone in realtime. however, there, so you can track someone in real time. however, there are safeguards in place, so apple are correct there are anti—stalking mechanisms there. correct there are anti-stalking mechanisms there.— correct there are anti-stalking mechanisms there. . , , , ., mechanisms there. apple says and has told the bbc that — mechanisms there. apple says and has told the bbc that it — mechanisms there. apple says and has told the bbc that it has _ mechanisms there. apple says and has told the bbc that it has safeguards i told the bbc that it has safeguards in place and airtags will beep if moving with an unregistered device and users with iphones will be notified and if you have a android phone you can download an app to detect on wanted airtags. does that sound enough? —— unwanted air tax. in my testing ifound sound enough? —— unwanted air tax. in my testing i found that these are not effective for long—term stalking, because if this airtag is on your person long enough you will get multiple notifications. however, the vast majority of these notifications and that includes the chirp, the audible sound, and if it's at the bottom of your bag or attached to a licence plate, you probably aren't going to hear it and it can be pretty faint. the majority of these notifications will come when you first arrive home, and that can be hours after they were first placed on you. if can be hours after they were first placed on yon-— placed on you. if you haven't checked your _ placed on you. if you haven't checked your phone, - placed on you. if you haven't checked your phone, isn't i placed on you. if you haven't| checked your phone, isn't it? placed on you. if you haven't i checked your phone, isn't it? no. placed on you. if you haven't - checked your phone, isn't it? no. so it checked your phone, isn't it? iirii. so it doesn't show up on your phone, it isjust the sound? it doesn't show up on your phone, it is just the sound? it it doesn't show up on your phone, it isjust the sound?— is just the sound? it will sharpen our is just the sound? it will sharpen your phone _ is just the sound? it will sharpen your phone but _ is just the sound? it will sharpen your phone but for _ is just the sound? it will sharpen your phone but for example, i i is just the sound? it will sharpen i your phone but for example, i took my husband's airtag with me and this was purposefully for testing and the entire time i had the airtag on me over the course of five or six hours i didn't get a notification that it was travelling with me. it was only when i got home that the airtag started beeping and i heard that there was an unknown airtag notification travelling with you, so that was about six hours after i had initially had the airtag moving with me that could have been unknown. of course, i knew, it was my husband's airtag when i was testing it but that was concerning to me and then the personal tests. you probably won't get a notification until you first arrive home, in which case somebody could have been looking the entire time, if they were purposefully trying to. find entire time, if they were purposefully trying to. and that is the sea purposefully trying to. and that is the scary thing — purposefully trying to. and that is the scary thing about _ purposefully trying to. and that is the scary thing about it. - purposefully trying to. and that is the scary thing about it. thank. purposefully trying to. and that is| the scary thing about it. thank you for explaining all of that to me, coming to us from new york,. in the next hour talking to martin clunis who as well as being a tv favourite for his acting is now doing travel reporting and has been to tonga and the south pacific islands and we will hear more about that after the headlines shortly. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines. from today, face masks are not compulsory in england's classrooms, as the government says we must learn to live with covid. the prime minister vows to fight any leadership challenge, as mp5 await a crucial report into downing street parties. higher energy bills could be here to stay — that's the warning from the boss of the bank of england, who says the squeeze on the cost of living could last for longer than previously thought. and martin clunes tells us about his travels across the islands of the pacific, inspired by a book his father gave him as a child. a shaky start for andy murray — he drops the first set in a close match against taro daniel, as he bids to make the third round of the australian open. good morning. a cold and frosty started today. if you're showers in the forecast but for most of us it will be dry with lengthy sunny spells and gusty winds. details later in the programme. good morning. it's thursday, the 20th of january. our main story. borisjohnson has announced that england's plan b restrictions are to be scrapped. the government is no longer asking people in england to work from home. face coverings don't need to be worn in secondary school classrooms from today, and guidance about using them in communal areas will soon be updated. for everyone else, from next thursday, face coverings will not be required by law, though advice remains to wear one in enclosed and crowded spaces. also from next thursday, you won't need a covid pass to gain entry to nightclubs and large events. those who test positive will still need to self—isolate, but this could be phased out by the end of march. breakfast�*sjohn maguire has been speaking to people in bristol, to find out how the changes have gone down there. as from today, the visible smiles are back in the classroom. in common with every other school, here in south gloucestershire at the kings oak academy in kingswood, they have dealt with a lot in the last two years. pupils and staff understand the public health need behind face coverings but, when we spoke yesterday, they are looking forward to seeing the back of them. when teachers are wearing masks, it's difficult to hear them and when we are wearing masks it is difficult for them to hear us so we have to keep on repeating and repeating. it's really difficult because the teacher, they can't see which student, they might not remember who is who and especially with a mask on, you can't see who they are. wearing a mask is not that bad, but, i like, if you like say something it's. hard for other people to hear you, so sometimes you have _ to pull it down for them to who you properly. i it has been quite difficult wearing them in lessons because it's quite difficult understanding what the teachers are saying. the advice to work from home where possible has already ended and from next thursday, face coverings will no longer be compulsory on public transport. so, passengers will be able to use their own discretion. i willjust keep it on until basically everyone else has not got it. i will do as i'm told. i always obey, so whatever the rules are, i have to follow. would you wear one next week if didn't have two? i'd prefer not to. i will still wear one because of the virus. but i doubt a lot of people will. ithink it is virus. but i doubt a lot of people will. i think it is a good thing, to be honest, guys. it keeps us safe. for me, it is a must. at this gift shop in bristol, they have sold out of facemasks and will not be ordering any more as we won't have to wear them in shops other enclosed spaces. whereas the intention is to help customers feel safe, here, too, face coverings can be a barrier to human interactions. i would like people to do whatever they are comfortable with. people will feel more relaxed when they're not wearing them but the people who are anxious will carry on wearing them. it's a tricky thing when you are wearing a mask. it stops communication with people and people can't hear what you're saying and because we have the perspex screen as well, again, you can't quite hear what people are saying it is difficult for your customers and difficult for us as well. mandatory covid passes for night clubs and sports stadiums won't reach their six—week anniversary as they are scrapped next week, although many venues had and will continue to continue to require customers to show them on entry. i've spoken to some clubs that will still be asking people to provide a covid pass on the way through, as we have been in bristol since the 19th ofjuly when we opened last year. some places will continue to do that and other places will choose that it is not needed within their environment, so it will be up to the individual venues to decide. don't expect face coverings to suddenly disappear overnight. they will remain compulsory on public transport in london for example, and many people may continue to are on the side of caution. so, there is no plan b for much longer in england but as we've seen, so many times before, coronaviruses doesn't follow plans. let's speak to john now. he's at king's oak academy in bristol for us this morning. good morning. when these regulations come in, what does it feel like, what is it going to look like in practice? tell us a bit about the school. they have had a lot to cope with, haven't they?— with, haven't they? they really have. with, haven't they? they really have- we _ with, haven't they? they really have. we will _ with, haven't they? they really have. we will talk _ with, haven't they? they really have. we will talk to _ with, haven't they? they really have. we will talk to some i with, haven't they? they really i have. we will talk to some students in a second — have. we will talk to some students in a second. this is one of the languages _ in a second. this is one of the languages classrooms. they have a french— languages classrooms. they have a french test— languages classrooms. they have a french test this afternoon. what does _ french test this afternoon. what doesjean — french test this afternoon. what doesjean have in his backpack? students — doesjean have in his backpack? students here this morning and a head _ students here this morning and a head teacher. morning, lads. good to see you _ head teacher. morning, lads. good to see you not— head teacher. morning, lads. good to see you. not wearing facemasks in lessons _ see you. not wearing facemasks in lessons for— see you. not wearing facemasks in lessons for the first time in a while — lessons for the first time in a while. what are your thoughts? i think while. what are your thoughts? think it's while. what are your thoughts? i think it's positive because it allows us to hear our teachers a lot more. when they are speaking, the facemask blocks it. aha, more. when they are speaking, the facemask blocks it.— facemask blocks it. a good day in that regard- _ facemask blocks it. a good day in that regard. how— facemask blocks it. a good day in that regard. how about _ facemask blocks it. a good day in that regard. how about for i facemask blocks it. a good day in that regard. how about for you? | facemask blocks it. a good day in i that regard. how about for you? i think that regard. how about for you? think it is a that regard. how about for you? i think it is a positive as well. similar— think it is a positive as well. similar to _ think it is a positive as well. similar to what _ think it is a positive as well. similar to what he - think it is a positive as well. similar to what he said. i think it is a positive as well. l similar to what he said. when think it is a positive as well. i similar to what he said. when we think it is a positive as well. - similar to what he said. when we had facemasks. _ similar to what he said. when we had facemasks. we — similar to what he said. when we had facemasks, we struggled _ similar to what he said. when we had facemasks, we struggled to— similar to what he said. when we had facemasks, we struggled to hear- similar to what he said. when we had facemasks, we struggled to hear the| facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers _ facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers but— facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers. but for— facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers. but for me _ facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers. but for me it _ facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers. but for me it was - facemasks, we struggled to hear the teachers. but for me it was eating i teachers. but for me it was eating my face _ teachers. but for me it was eating my face and — teachers. but for me it was eating my face and it _ teachers. but for me it was eating my face and it kept _ teachers. but for me it was eating my face and it kept on _ teachers. but for me it was eating my face and it kept on falling i teachers. but for me it was eatingl my face and it kept on falling down off my— my face and it kept on falling down off my face — my face and it kept on falling down off my face it _ my face and it kept on falling down off my face. it is— my face and it kept on falling down off my face. it is good _ my face and it kept on falling down off my face. it is good now. - my face and it kept on falling down off my face. it is good now. hard . off my face. it is good now. hard sometimes _ off my face. it is good now. hard sometimes to _ off my face. it is good now. hard sometimes to make _ off my face. it is good now. hard sometimes to make yourself i off my face. it is good now.- sometimes to make yourself heard off my face. it is good now— sometimes to make yourself heard in the classroom if you need to ask a question? — the classroom if you need to ask a tuestion? . the classroom if you need to ask a question?- thank _ the classroom if you need to ask a question?- thank you - the classroom if you need to ask a question?- thank you very i the classroom if you need to ask a question? yeah. thank you very much indeed. a couple _ question? yeah. thank you very much indeed. a couple of _ question? yeah. thank you very much indeed. a couple of year _ question? yeah. thank you very much indeed. a couple of year 11 _ indeed. a couple of year 11 students. libby and izzy. good morning — students. libby and izzy. good morning. a big year for you. gcses in the _ morning. a big year for you. gcses in the summer. generally a school how are _ in the summer. generally a school how are things going? it�*s in the summer. generally a school how are things going?— how are things going? it's really stressful at _ how are things going? it's really stressful at the _ how are things going? it's really stressful at the moment - how are things going? it's really | stressful at the moment because how are things going? it's really i stressful at the moment because of covid rules. we still don't know if we are going to do our gcses in school or predictive. it's crazy at the moment. we don't know what is going to happen. we're still waiting for the use to come out saying whatever we have to do. we have to deal with and i get on with it and do our best. deal with and i get on with it and do our best-— deal with and i get on with it and do our best. . ,,., , ., ., do our best. absolutely. not wearing facemasks, will _ do our best. absolutely. not wearing facemasks, will that _ do our best. absolutely. not wearing facemasks, will that help _ do our best. absolutely. not wearing facemasks, will that help your i facemasks, will that help your learning? _ facemasks, will that help your learnint? ., , , . i. facemasks, will that help your learnint? ., , , . ., learning? probably. when you have masks on, learning? probably. when you have masks on. you _ learning? probably. when you have masks on, you can't _ learning? probably. when you have masks on, you can't rehear - learning? probably. when you have i masks on, you can't rehear teachers. you don't know what you are doing for your lesson. you don't know what you are doing foryour lesson. it you don't know what you are doing for your lesson. it is hard to hear. i don't know how many weeks there are idon't know how many weeks there are until— i don't know how many weeks there are until the — i don't know how many weeks there are until the gcses start. you probably— are until the gcses start. you probably know! it has been a cup —— tough _ probably know! it has been a cup —— tough couple — probably know! it has been a cup —— tough couple of years? probably know! it has been a cup -- tough couple of years?— tough couple of years? yeah. to start with we — tough couple of years? yeah. to start with we were _ tough couple of years? yeah. to start with we were all— tough couple of years? yeah. to start with we were all confused l start with we were all confused because — start with we were all confused because we _ start with we were all confused because we had _ start with we were all confused because we had never- start with we were all confused because we had never learnedi start with we were all confused i because we had never learned from home _ because we had never learned from home we — because we had never learned from home we weren't— because we had never learned from home. we weren't used _ because we had never learned from home. we weren't used to - because we had never learned from home. we weren't used to working| because we had never learned from i home. we weren't used to working in our rooms— home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at— home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at home _ home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at home. we _ home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at home. we were - home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at home. we were used i home. we weren't used to working in our rooms at home. we were used to being _ our rooms at home. we were used to being with _ our rooms at home. we were used to being with people _ our rooms at home. we were used to being with people. and _ our rooms at home. we were used to being with people. and now- our rooms at home. we were used to being with people. and now that- our rooms at home. we were used to being with people. and now that we i being with people. and now that we are in— being with people. and now that we are in school, — being with people. and now that we are in school, it _ being with people. and now that we are in school, it is _ being with people. and now that we are in school, it is better, _ being with people. and now that we are in school, it is better, because. are in school, it is better, because we have _ are in school, it is better, because we have caught _ are in school, it is better, because we have caught up _ are in school, it is better, because we have caught up with _ are in school, it is better, because we have caught up with what - are in school, it is better, because we have caught up with what we i are in school, it is better, because. we have caught up with what we are supposed _ we have caught up with what we are supposed to— we have caught up with what we are supposed to do _ we have caught up with what we are supposed to do. we _ we have caught up with what we are supposed to do. we have _ we have caught up with what we are supposed to do. we have got- supposed to do. we have got confident~ _ supposed to do. we have got confident. we _ supposed to do. we have got confident. we have _ supposed to do. we have got confident. we have got- supposed to do. we have got confident. we have got our. confident. we have got our confidence _ confident. we have got our confidence back. _ confident. we have got our confidence back.— confident. we have got our confidence back. ., ., confidence back. good to hear. good luck for the — confidence back. good to hear. good luck for the summer. _ confidence back. good to hear. good luck for the summer. and _ confidence back. good to hear. good luck for the summer. and catherine l luck for the summer. and catherine ogden, _ luck for the summer. and catherine ogden, principal. good morning. what are your— ogden, principal. good morning. what are your thoughts? you have to think about— are your thoughts? you have to think about maybe certain members of staff who might _ about maybe certain members of staff who might want to carry on wearing facemasks?— who might want to carry on wearing facemasks? , . , ., facemasks? exactly. we will carry on makint facemasks? exactly. we will carry on making sure — facemasks? exactly. we will carry on making sure that _ facemasks? exactly. we will carry on making sure that students _ facemasks? exactly. we will carry on making sure that students and i facemasks? exactly. we will carry on making sure that students and staff. making sure that students and staff learn and _ making sure that students and staff learn and teach _ making sure that students and staff learn and teach safely. _ making sure that students and staff learn and teach safely. we - making sure that students and staff learn and teach safely. we will- learn and teach safely. we will focus — learn and teach safely. we will focus on — learn and teach safely. we will focus on allowing _ learn and teach safely. we will focus on allowing teachers i learn and teach safely. we will focus on allowing teachers to i learn and teach safely. we will. focus on allowing teachers to get back engaging _ focus on allowing teachers to get back engaging with _ focus on allowing teachers to get back engaging with students. i focus on allowing teachers to get i back engaging with students. without face coverings. — back engaging with students. without face coverings, it _ back engaging with students. without face coverings, it will— back engaging with students. without face coverings, it will allow _ back engaging with students. without face coverings, it will allow us - back engaging with students. without face coverings, it will allow us to i face coverings, it will allow us to do that— face coverings, it will allow us to do that and — face coverings, it will allow us to do that and focus _ face coverings, it will allow us to do that and focus on _ face coverings, it will allow us to do that and focus on quality- face coverings, it will allow us to do that and focus on quality first| do that and focus on quality first teaching — do that and focus on quality first teaching. people _ do that and focus on quality first teaching. people will— do that and focus on quality first teaching. people will enjoy- do that and focus on quality first i teaching. people will enjoy having the freedom — teaching. people will enjoy having the freedom again _ teaching. people will enjoy having the freedom again to _ teaching. people will enjoy having the freedom again to interact i teaching. people will enjoy having i the freedom again to interact fully with our— the freedom again to interact fully with our students. _ the freedom again to interact fully with our students. we _ the freedom again to interact fully with our students. we will - the freedom again to interact fully with our students. we will keep i with our students. we will keep everybody — with our students. we will keep everybody say. _ with our students. we will keep everybody say-— with our students. we will keep everybody say. teaching is such a nuanced profession. _ everybody say. teaching is such a nuanced profession. nonverbal. nuanced profession. nonverbal communication is so important. have you had _ communication is so important. have you had to _ communication is so important. have you had to adapt the way you work sometimes?— you had to adapt the way you work sometimes? .. , . ., ., sometimes? oh, exactly. we have had to learn to be — sometimes? oh, exactly. we have had to learn to be expressive _ sometimes? oh, exactly. we have had to learn to be expressive with - sometimes? oh, exactly. we have had to learn to be expressive with our- to learn to be expressive with our eyes _ to learn to be expressive with our eyes and — to learn to be expressive with our eyes and gestures _ to learn to be expressive with our eyes and gestures and _ to learn to be expressive with our eyes and gestures and tone - to learn to be expressive with our eyes and gestures and tone of- to learn to be expressive with our. eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being _ eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being able _ eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being able to — eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being able to remove _ eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being able to remove our— eyes and gestures and tone of voice. being able to remove our face - being able to remove our face coverings— being able to remove our face coverings will— being able to remove our face coverings will help _ being able to remove our face coverings will help us. - being able to remove our face coverings will help us.- being able to remove our face coverings will help us. thank you very much _ coverings will help us. thank you very much indeed. _ coverings will help us. thank you very much indeed. and _ coverings will help us. thank you very much indeed. and students| coverings will help us. thank you i very much indeed. and students will continue _ very much indeed. and students will continue to— very much indeed. and students will continue to wear them in communal areas _ continue to wear them in communal areas 0k~ — continue to wear them in communal areas. ok. not a black picture. as we heard — areas. ok. not a black picture. as we heard from sajid javid earlier, a lot of— we heard from sajid javid earlier, a lot of people will still choose to wear _ lot of people will still choose to wear facemasks. lot of people will still choose to wearfacemasks. it lot of people will still choose to wear facemasks. it becomes more of a personal— wear facemasks. it becomes more of a personal preference with the legislation. the key thing is making sure people feel as safe as possible. thank you. we're joined now by professor stephen reicher, who is a social psychologist and a member of the sage subcommittee advising on behavioural science. and also by professor sian griffiths, emeritus professor at the chinese university of hong kong. good morning to you both. ijust wonder if we can establish where you both feel in terms of the timing of this announcement, it coming now and whether you think it is right to welcome at the moment two things are true. , , ., , ., true. the first is that there is no doubt that _ true. the first is that there is no doubt that we _ true. the first is that there is no doubt that we are _ true. the first is that there is no doubt that we are over - true. the first is that there is no doubt that we are over the i true. the first is that there is no doubt that we are over the peak| true. the first is that there is no l doubt that we are over the peak in terms _ doubt that we are over the peak in terms of— doubt that we are over the peak in terms of omicron infections. not so much _ terms of omicron infections. not so much hospitalisations and deaths, because _ much hospitalisations and deaths, because they lag behind, but that is .ood because they lag behind, but that is good news — because they lag behind, but that is good news and it means we can begin to rethink— good news and it means we can begin to rethink what we do and how we deal with— to rethink what we do and how we deal with the pandemic. but at the other— deal with the pandemic. but at the other thing that is true is that saying — other thing that is true is that saying we _ other thing that is true is that saying we are over the peak doesn't mean _ saying we are over the peak doesn't mean it— saying we are over the peak doesn't mean it is— saying we are over the peak doesn't mean it is all over. we still have very— mean it is all over. we still have very high— mean it is all over. we still have very high levels of infection. we still have — very high levels of infection. we still have a huge load on the nhs. not only— still have a huge load on the nhs. not only are delays much bigger than ever before, not only do we have 6 million _ ever before, not only do we have 6 million people on waiting lists, but also two _ million people on waiting lists, but also two thirds of doctors feel burnt— also two thirds of doctors feel burnt out— also two thirds of doctors feel burnt out and feel they can't give the care — burnt out and feel they can't give the care they should be able to give _ the care they should be able to give and — the care they should be able to give. and when we look at schools, also it _ give. and when we look at schools, also it is _ give. and when we look at schools, also it is clear that things are not all over~ — also it is clear that things are not all over. last week, 300,000 children— all over. last week, 300,000 children were off with covid. over 25,000 _ children were off with covid. over 25,000 teachers off with covid. when you look— 25,000 teachers off with covid. when you look at _ 25,000 teachers off with covid. when you look at the younger children up to age _ you look at the younger children up to age six. — you look at the younger children up to age six. -- — you look at the younger children up to age six, —— year six, levels of infection— to age six, —— year six, levels of infection are _ to age six, —— year six, levels of infection are rising. it seems to me we need _ infection are rising. it seems to me we need to— infection are rising. it seems to me we need to rethink and perhaps we don't _ we need to rethink and perhaps we don't need — we need to rethink and perhaps we don't need as many restrictions, but we still— don't need as many restrictions, but we still need to protect people and we still need to protect people and we still— we still need to protect people and we still need to protect people and we still need to protect people and we still need to support them. and in schools. — we still need to support them. and in schools. i— we still need to support them. and in schools, i think, it seems premature _ in schools, i think, it seems premature to take away the very few protections _ premature to take away the very few protections we have won many people have been— protections we have won many people have been calling for more protections, specifically calling for more — protections, specifically calling for more ventilation in schools. so i do for more ventilation in schools. so i do think— for more ventilation in schools. so i do think this is a gamble and i do think— i do think this is a gamble and i do think it _ i do think this is a gamble and i do think it is — i do think this is a gamble and i do think it isa— i do think this is a gamble and i do think it is a risk. and while, of course, — think it is a risk. and while, of course, nobody wants to wear a mask, nobody _ course, nobody wants to wear a mask, nobody wants — course, nobody wants to wear a mask, nobody wants many of these measures, at the _ nobody wants many of these measures, at the same _ nobody wants many of these measures, at the same time the real thing that has harmed children, and the real thing _ has harmed children, and the real thing that— has harmed children, and the real thing that has disrupted their education, are the numbers who have had to— education, are the numbers who have had to be _ education, are the numbers who have had to be off— education, are the numbers who have had to be off with covid, who have had to be off with covid, who have had to _ had to be off with covid, who have had to be — had to be off with covid, who have had to be at — had to be off with covid, who have had to be at home, whose education has been _ had to be at home, whose education has been disrupted. and who have not had the _ has been disrupted. and who have not had the support they need in terms of giving _ had the support they need in terms of giving them it, in terms of giving — of giving them it, in terms of giving them connectivity. i think we should _ giving them connectivity. i think we should be _ giving them connectivity. i think we should be thinking much more in terms _ should be thinking much more in terms of— should be thinking much more in terms of shifting the pandemic response to giving people more support— response to giving people more support and more protection. and my fear is _ support and more protection. and my fear is this— support and more protection. and my fear is this government isjust taking — fear is this government isjust taking away everything and under the .uise taking away everything and under the guise of— taking away everything and under the guise of setting us free, under the guise _ guise of setting us free, under the guise of— guise of setting us free, under the guise of taking away protections, is also, _ guise of taking away protections, is also, sorry, — guise of taking away protections, is also, sorry, taking away restrictions, is also taking with those — restrictions, is also taking with those critical protections like critical — those critical protections like critical support.— critical support. professor griffiths, _ critical support. professor griffiths, can _ critical support. professor griffiths, can i _ critical support. professor griffiths, can i ask- critical support. professor griffiths, can i ask you i critical support. professor | griffiths, can i ask you the critical support. professor i griffiths, can i ask you the same question? a lot of people, even in the moment they are welcoming the relaxation, arejust the moment they are welcoming the relaxation, are just asking that a very important question, why now? what is the key bit of evidence that suggests, will be at the situation is improving, that we can take the steps we are? what is that key point? steps we are? what is that key oint? , a, a, steps we are? what is that key oint? a, a, a, steps we are? what is that key oint? a, , i, , , , point? good morning. obviously is the key -- — point? good morning. obviously is the key -- the _ point? good morning. obviously is the key -- the key _ point? good morning. obviously is the key -- the key point _ point? good morning. obviously is the key -- the key point at - point? good morning. obviously is the key -- the key point at the - the key —— the key point at the different— the key —— the key point at the different sources _ the key —— the key point at the different sources of _ the key —— the key point at the i different sources of information that have — different sources of information that have come. _ different sources of information that have come. maybe - different sources of information that have come. maybe the - different sources of information - that have come. maybe the biggest thln- that have come. maybe the biggest thing is _ that have come. maybe the biggest thing is that— that have come. maybe the biggest thing is that the _ that have come. maybe the biggest thing is that the office _ that have come. maybe the biggest thing is that the office of _ that have come. maybe the biggest thing is that the office of national. thing is that the office of national statistics— thing is that the office of national statistics showed _ thing is that the office of national statistics showed the _ thing is that the office of national statistics showed the very - thing is that the office of national statistics showed the very high i statistics showed the very high levels — statistics showed the very high levels of— statistics showed the very high levels of immunity— statistics showed the very high levels of immunity in— statistics showed the very high levels of immunity in the - levels of immunity in the imputation _ levels of immunity in the population. with- levels of immunity in the population. with that. levels of immunity in the i population. with that figure levels of immunity in the - population. with that figure in mind, — population. with that figure in mind, and _ population. with that figure in mind, and with _ population. with that figure in mind, and with the _ population. with that figure in mind, and with the picture - population. with that figure in i mind, and with the picture across the country— mind, and with the picture across the country showing _ mind, and with the picture across the country showing fast - mind, and with the picture across the country showing fast falling . the country showing fast falling rates _ the country showing fast falling rates of — the country showing fast falling rates of omicron _ the country showing fast falling rates of omicron in _ the country showing fast falling rates of omicron in many- the country showing fast falling rates of omicron in many parts| the country showing fast falling . rates of omicron in many parts of the country. _ rates of omicron in many parts of the country, that— rates of omicron in many parts of the country, that means - rates of omicron in many parts of the country, that means there - rates of omicron in many parts of the country, that means there is| rates of omicron in many parts of. the country, that means there is an opportunity— the country, that means there is an opportunity here _ the country, that means there is an opportunity here to _ the country, that means there is an opportunity here to say, _ the country, that means there is an opportunity here to say, actually, l opportunity here to say, actually, things— opportunity here to say, actually, things are — opportunity here to say, actually, things are starting _ opportunity here to say, actually, things are starting to _ opportunity here to say, actually, things are starting to get - opportunity here to say, actually, things are starting to get better. i things are starting to get better. that lifts — things are starting to get better. that lifts the _ things are starting to get better. that lifts the mood. _ things are starting to get better. that lifts the mood. it _ things are starting to get better. that lifts the mood. it doesn't i things are starting to get better. - that lifts the mood. it doesn't mean that omicron — that lifts the mood. it doesn't mean that omicron has— that lifts the mood. it doesn't mean that omicron has gone _ that lifts the mood. it doesn't mean that omicron has gone away. - that lifts the mood. it doesn't mean that omicron has gone away. it - that omicron has gone away. it doesn't — that omicron has gone away. it doesn't nrean _ that omicron has gone away. it doesn't mean covid _ that omicron has gone away. it doesn't mean covid has - that omicron has gone away. it doesn't mean covid has gone . that omicron has gone away. it - doesn't mean covid has gone away. there _ doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is— doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is a _ doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is a risk— doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is a risk of— doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is a risk of interpreting - doesn't mean covid has gone away. there is a risk of interpreting the i there is a risk of interpreting the relaxation — there is a risk of interpreting the relaxation of _ there is a risk of interpreting the relaxation of restrictions - there is a risk of interpreting the relaxation of restrictions as, - there is a risk of interpreting the relaxation of restrictions as, all i relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all— relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all gone _ relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all gone away, _ relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all gone away, it _ relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all gone away, it has - relaxation of restrictions as, all it is all gone away, it has not. i relaxation of restrictions as, all| it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone — it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back— it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back to _ it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back to plan _ it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back to plan a. - it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back to plan a. if- it is all gone away, it has not. it has gone back to plan a. if you i has gone back to plan a. if you remember— has gone back to plan a. if you remember plan— has gone back to plan a. if you remember plan any _ has gone back to plan a. if you remember plan any before - has gone back to plan a. if you - remember plan any before christmas, before _ remember plan any before christmas, before mandatory _ remember plan any before christmas, before mandatory mass _ remember plan any before christmas, before mandatory mass grazing - remember plan any before christmas, before mandatory mass grazing —— - before mandatory mass grazing —— mask— before mandatory mass grazing —— mask wearing. _ before mandatory mass grazing —— mask wearing. we _ before mandatory mass grazing —— mask wearing, we were _ before mandatory mass grazing —— mask wearing, we were already, l before mandatory mass grazing —— - mask wearing, we were already, large numbers— mask wearing, we were already, large numbers of— mask wearing, we were already, large numbers of peorrie _ mask wearing, we were already, large numbers of people were _ mask wearing, we were already, large numbers of people were wearing - numbers of people were wearing masks. — numbers of people were wearing masks, stephen _ numbers of people were wearing masks, stephen was _ numbers of people were wearing masks, stephen was saying, - numbers of people were wearing masks, stephen was saying, or. numbers of people were wearing i masks, stephen was saying, or to work— masks, stephen was saying, or to work from — masks, stephen was saying, or to work from home. _ masks, stephen was saying, or to work from home. and _ masks, stephen was saying, or to work from home. and many- masks, stephen was saying, or to. work from home. and many places, masks, stephen was saying, or to- work from home. and many places, as your report _ work from home. and many places, as your report area — work from home. and many places, as your report area said, _ work from home. and many places, as your report area said, will— work from home. and many places, as your report area said, will continue - your report area said, will continue with restrictions _ your report area said, will continue with restrictions for— your report area said, will continue with restrictions for the _ your report area said, will continue with restrictions for the protectionl with restrictions for the protection of the _ with restrictions for the protection of the public. _ with restrictions for the protection of the public, because _ with restrictions for the protection of the public, because we - with restrictions for the protection of the public, because we are - with restrictions for the protection of the public, because we are only on the _ of the public, because we are only on the way— of the public, because we are only on the way down, _ of the public, because we are only on the way down, we _ of the public, because we are only on the way down, we are - of the public, because we are only on the way down, we are not - of the public, because we are only on the way down, we are not out i of the public, because we are onlyl on the way down, we are not out of this pandemic _ on the way down, we are not out of this pandemic— this pandemic. looking forward to the end of march, _ this pandemic. looking forward to the end of march, and _ this pandemic. looking forward to the end of march, and the - this pandemic. looking forward to l the end of march, and the prospect that has been put out there by boris johnson that may be self isolation is over, so you test positive but you don't have to self—isolate, now thatis you don't have to self—isolate, now that is a decision that has not yet been made but borisjohnson said very clearly he is hoping to bring that forward — what do you make of that? what is the significance and what are the concerns around that? with all of this we have to be very aware _ with all of this we have to be very aware of— with all of this we have to be very aware of the — with all of this we have to be very aware of the fact _ with all of this we have to be very aware of the fact that _ with all of this we have to be very aware of the fact that we - with all of this we have to be very aware of the fact that we really i aware of the fact that we really can't _ aware of the fact that we really can't tell— aware of the fact that we really can't tell what _ aware of the fact that we really can't tell what is _ aware of the fact that we really can't tell what is going - aware of the fact that we really can't tell what is going to - aware of the fact that we really . can't tell what is going to happen and we _ can't tell what is going to happen and we need _ can't tell what is going to happen and we need strong _ can't tell what is going to happen and we need strong surveillancel and we need strong surveillance systems. — and we need strong surveillance systems. which— and we need strong surveillance systems, which is— and we need strong surveillance systems, which is why - and we need strong surveillance systems, which is why it - and we need strong surveillance systems, which is why it is- and we need strong surveillance systems, which is why it is so. systems, which is why it is so important _ systems, which is why it is so important that— systems, which is why it is so important that the _ systems, which is why it is so important that the global - important that the global surveillance _ important that the global surveillance system - important that the global - surveillance system continues important that the global _ surveillance system continues showed another _ surveillance system continues showed another variant — surveillance system continues showed another variant arise. _ surveillance system continues showed another variant arise. you _ surveillance system continues showed another variant arise. you don't - another variant arise. you don't know— another variant arise. you don't know another _ another variant arise. you don't know another variant _ another variant arise. you don't know another variant won't - another variant arise. you don't i know another variant won't arise. omicron — know another variant won't arise. omicron came _ know another variant won't arise. omicron came very— know another variant won't arise. omicron came very quickly - know another variant won't arise. omicron came very quickly from i know another variant won't arise. - omicron came very quickly from south africa _ omicron came very quickly from south africa hack— omicron came very quickly from south africa hack in — omicron came very quickly from south africa back in september. _ omicron came very quickly from south africa back in september. you - omicron came very quickly from south africa back in september. you can't. africa back in september. you can't say what _ africa back in september. you can't say what he — africa back in september. you can't say what he will _ africa back in september. you can't say what he will do _ africa back in september. you can't say what he will do in _ africa back in september. you can't say what he will do in march - africa back in september. you can't. say what he will do in march because you dont— say what he will do in march because you don't know— say what he will do in march because you don't know what _ say what he will do in march because you don't know what the _ say what he will do in march because you don't know what the situation i you don't know what the situation will he _ you don't know what the situation will he any— you don't know what the situation will be. any decision _ you don't know what the situation will be. any decision needs - you don't know what the situation will be. any decision needs to - you don't know what the situation will be. any decision needs to be| will be. any decision needs to be made _ will be. any decision needs to be made in — will be. any decision needs to be made in the _ will be. any decision needs to be made in the light _ will be. any decision needs to be made in the light of— will be. any decision needs to be made in the light of the - made in the light of the epidemiology— made in the light of the epidemiology at - made in the light of the epidemiology at the - made in the light of the i epidemiology at the time made in the light of the - epidemiology at the time and made in the light of the _ epidemiology at the time and what we know about _ epidemiology at the time and what we know about the — epidemiology at the time and what we know about the disease. _ epidemiology at the time and what we know about the disease. although - epidemiology at the time and what we know about the disease. although the| know about the disease. although the politicians _ know about the disease. although the politicians make _ know about the disease. although the politicians make the _ know about the disease. although the politicians make the decisions - know about the disease. although the politicians make the decisions about l politicians make the decisions about the timing _ politicians make the decisions about the timing of— politicians make the decisions about the timing of these _ politicians make the decisions about the timing of these things, - politicians make the decisions about the timing of these things, and - politicians make the decisions about the timing of these things, and we i the timing of these things, and we would _ the timing of these things, and we would all— the timing of these things, and we would all like _ the timing of these things, and we would all like to _ the timing of these things, and we would all like to see _ the timing of these things, and we would all like to see self— the timing of these things, and we would all like to see self isolationl would all like to see self isolation not being — would all like to see self isolation not being required _ would all like to see self isolation not being required because - would all like to see self isolation not being required because rates| would all like to see self isolation i not being required because rates are low enough — not being required because rates are low enough for — not being required because rates are low enough for that, _ not being required because rates are low enough for that, we _ not being required because rates are low enough for that, we are - not being required because rates are low enough for that, we are not - not being required because rates are low enough for that, we are not at l low enough for that, we are not at that position — low enough for that, we are not at that position yet. _ low enough for that, we are not at that position yet. so _ low enough for that, we are not at that position yet. so i— low enough for that, we are not at that position yet. so i think- low enough for that, we are not at that position yet. so i think it- that position yet. so i think it would — that position yet. so i think it would be _ that position yet. so i think it would be foolhardy _ that position yet. so i think it would be foolhardy of - that position yet. so i think it would be foolhardy of me - that position yet. so i think it would be foolhardy of me toi that position yet. so i think it- would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, ithink— would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that _ would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that is — would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that is going _ would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that is going to _ would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that is going to happen, - would be foolhardy of me to say, oh, i think that is going to happen, or. i think that is going to happen, or that is— i think that is going to happen, or that is not— i think that is going to happen, or that is not going _ i think that is going to happen, or that is not going to— i think that is going to happen, or that is not going to happen, - i think that is going to happen, or. that is not going to happen, because we don't _ that is not going to happen, because we don't know — that is not going to happen, because we don't know i_ that is not going to happen, because we don't know. i urge _ that is not going to happen, because we don't know. i urge people - that is not going to happen, because we don't know. i urge people to- we don't know. i urge people to continue — we don't know. i urge people to continue to— we don't know. i urge people to continue to take _ we don't know. i urge people to continue to take care _ we don't know. i urge people to continue to take care of- we don't know. i urge people to- continue to take care of themselves in this— continue to take care of themselves in this pandemic. _ continue to take care of themselves in this pandemic. it _ continue to take care of themselves in this pandemic. it has— continue to take care of themselves in this pandemic. it has not- continue to take care of themselves in this pandemic. it has not gone i in this pandemic. it has not gone away _ in this pandemic. it has not gone away and — in this pandemic. it has not gone away and i_ in this pandemic. it has not gone away. and i think— in this pandemic. it has not gone away. and i think people - in this pandemic. it has not gone away. and i think people shouldl in this pandemic. it has not gone . away. and i think people should do things— away. and i think people should do things like — away. and i think people should do things like wear— away. and i think people should do things like wear masks _ away. and i think people should do things like wear masks if— away. and i think people should do things like wear masks if you - away. and i think people should do things like wear masks if you feel. things like wear masks if you feel safe _ things like wear masks if you feel safe it_ things like wear masks if you feel safe ifyou — things like wear masks if you feel safe. if you feel— things like wear masks if you feel safe. if you feel it _ things like wear masks if you feel safe. if you feel it is _ things like wear masks if you feel safe. if you feel it is better, - things like wear masks if you feel safe. if you feel it is better, wearj safe. if you feel it is better, wear a mask — safe. if you feel it is better, wear a mask we — safe. if you feel it is better, wear a mask. we should _ safe. if you feel it is better, wear a mask. we should get— safe. if you feel it is better, wear a mask. we should get that - safe. if you feel it is better, wear| a mask. we should get that more safe. if you feel it is better, wear. a mask. we should get that more to be part— a mask. we should get that more to be part of— a mask. we should get that more to be part of how— a mask. we should get that more to be part of how we _ a mask. we should get that more to be part of how we behave _ a mask. we should get that more to be part of how we behave than - be part of how we behave than saying. — be part of how we behave than saying. we _ be part of how we behave than saying. we just _ be part of how we behave than saying, we just do _ be part of how we behave than saying, we just do what - be part of how we behave than saying, we just do what the i saying, we just do what the government— saying, we just do what the government tells— saying, we just do what the government tells us. - saying, we just do what the government tells us. you . saying, we just do what the government tells us. you are a member of— government tells us. you are a member of the _ government tells us. you are a member of the sage _ government tells us. you are a member of the sage sub - government tells us. you are a - member of the sage sub committee which advises on behavioural science. over the past couple of years we have learned so much about the way we behave, the way we react to rules, the way we react to change. how quickly, or do you think it will be a quick transition, before we go back to the old normal, where there is no social distancing, where there is no social distancing, where you don't have to wear face covering? where you don't have to wear face coverin: ? ~ ,., where you don't have to wear face coverina? ~ , where you don't have to wear face coverin: ? ~ ,., ._ , .,, covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go — covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go back— covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go back to _ covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go back to the _ covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go back to the old - covering? well, in some ways i hope we don't go back to the old normal, | we don't go back to the old normal, because _ we don't go back to the old normal, because this — we don't go back to the old normal, because this pandemic has shown us many— because this pandemic has shown us many things which we need to change in our— many things which we need to change in our society. this has been a pandemic— in our society. this has been a pandemic of inequalities whereby those _ pandemic of inequalities whereby those less privileged have been more ekposed, _ those less privileged have been more exposed, have been more likely to .et exposed, have been more likely to get ill, _ exposed, have been more likely to get ill, that less resources when they have — get ill, that less resources when they have had to be at home. that is one way— they have had to be at home. that is one way in— they have had to be at home. that is one way in which i hope we don't go back to _ one way in which i hope we don't go back to the — one way in which i hope we don't go back to the old normal. it has alerted — back to the old normal. it has alerted us— back to the old normal. it has alerted us to the importance of air quality _ alerted us to the importance of air quality. just as in the 19th century there _ quality. just as in the 19th century there were — quality. just as in the 19th century there were massive steps forward in public _ there were massive steps forward in public health by improving the quality— public health by improving the quality of water, now we need to think— quality of water, now we need to think much— quality of water, now we need to think much more about the quality of air, ventilation, but filtration and putting _ air, ventilation, but filtration and putting systems in our homes and public— putting systems in our homes and public places and schools. there are many _ public places and schools. there are many ways — public places and schools. there are many ways we want to see change. there — many ways we want to see change. there are _ many ways we want to see change. there are fundamental lessons about human _ there are fundamental lessons about human behaviour we have learnt. the first is— human behaviour we have learnt. the first is that _ human behaviour we have learnt. the first is that information is absolutely critical to what people do and _ absolutely critical to what people do and clear information, because people _ do and clear information, because people have shown a willingness to abide _ people have shown a willingness to abide by— people have shown a willingness to abide by covid measures if they see that there _ abide by covid measures if they see that there is a need to do so. and if you _ that there is a need to do so. and if you tell— that there is a need to do so. and if you tell people there is no risk, the danger— if you tell people there is no risk, the danger is they will give up on everything, including vaccination. 37 million— everything, including vaccination. 37 million of ad boosted so far. what _ 37 million of ad boosted so far. what i — 37 million of ad boosted so far. what i fear— 37 million of ad boosted so far. what i fear is that the messaging about— what i fear is that the messaging about getting rid of even isolation, is telling _ about getting rid of even isolation, is telling people it is all over and that we — is telling people it is all over and that we can relax. we mustn't relax. there _ that we can relax. we mustn't relax. there is— that we can relax. we mustn't relax. there is that — that we can relax. we mustn't relax. there is that messaging aspect. the second _ there is that messaging aspect. the second thing, and this is what took us through— second thing, and this is what took us through the first pandemic in many— us through the first pandemic in many ways, it's people were resilient _ many ways, it's people were resilient because they came together. it was about a sense of people _ together. it was about a sense of people supporting each other. just today— people supporting each other. just today another paper was published empirically showing just how important that sense of way is. when you talk— important that sense of way is. when you talk about individual responsibility, you say it is up to you whether you want to wear a mask, what if _ you whether you want to wear a mask, what if i _ you whether you want to wear a mask, what if i decide not to wear a mask, then the _ what if i decide not to wear a mask, then the consequences are that a more _ then the consequences are that a more vulnerable person has that choice _ more vulnerable person has that choice taken away because they don't feel safe _ choice taken away because they don't feel safe in _ choice taken away because they don't feel safe in public. so we need to be acting — feel safe in public. so we need to be acting for each other and for the community — be acting for each other and for the community. that is what served us well and _ community. that is what served us well and that is what is being undermined by the messaging and the emphasis _ undermined by the messaging and the emphasis on personal responsibility, rather— emphasis on personal responsibility, rather than _ emphasis on personal responsibility, rather than acting together as and for the _ rather than acting together as and for the community.— rather than acting together as and for the community. professor stephen writer, professor _ for the community. professor stephen writer, professor sharon _ for the community. professor stephen writer, professor sharon griffiths, - writer, professor sharon griffiths, thank you both. 18 minutes past eight. downing street has said boris johnson will fight any challenge to his leadership of the conservative party. it follows a fiery day in the commons, as the fallout continues over parties in number 10, with one new mp defecting to the labour party, and a former cabinet minister calling for the prime minister to stand down. our chief political correspondent adam fleming joins us now from westminster. it is worth putting things in perspective. many people have watched the commons for a very long time. things that occurred there yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if ou look yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if you look at — yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if you look at all _ yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if you look at all the _ yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if you look at all the things _ yesterday, they have not seen? yeah. if you look at all the things that - if you look at all the things that happened to boris johnson yesterday that were _ happened to boris johnson yesterday that were bad, they were quite a lot. that were bad, they were quite a lot the — that were bad, they were quite a lot. the plot against him by a group of new— lot. the plot against him by a group of new mps— lot. the plot against him by a group of new mps elected in 2019, it kind of new mps elected in 2019, it kind of accelerated yesterday morning with more than —— more of them putting _ with more than —— more of them putting in— with more than —— more of them putting in letters of no confidence against _ putting in letters of no confidence against the prime minister earlier than planned. then you had the conservative mp crossing the floor, as it is _ conservative mp crossing the floor, as it is called in westminster jargon, — as it is called in westminster jargon, to— as it is called in westminster jargon, tojoin the labour party. notiust— jargon, tojoin the labour party. notjust that, he jargon, tojoin the labour party. not just that, he was an jargon, tojoin the labour party. notjust that, he was an mp jargon, tojoin the labour party. not just that, he was an mp from a northern— not just that, he was an mp from a northern seat that boris johnson not just that, he was an mp from a northern seat that borisjohnson had won for— northern seat that borisjohnson had won for labour at the last election, which _ won for labour at the last election, which was — won for labour at the last election, which was a — won for labour at the last election, which was a big symbol of what a winner— which was a big symbol of what a winner borisjohnson was which was a big symbol of what a winner boris johnson was then. and then, _ winner boris johnson was then. and then, right — winner boris johnson was then. and then, right at the end of prime minister's _ then, right at the end of prime minister's questions, you had david davies, _ minister's questions, you had david davies, former brighton secretary, ben and _ davies, former brighton secretary, ben and mp for a long time, stood for the _ ben and mp for a long time, stood for the tory— ben and mp for a long time, stood for the tory leadership once, calling — for the tory leadership once, calling on— for the tory leadership once, calling on the prime minister to go, directly— calling on the prime minister to go, directly to— calling on the prime minister to go, directly to his face, in front of all his— directly to his face, in front of all his colleagues and in front of the public — all his colleagues and in front of the public. so you add all that up, looking _ the public. so you add all that up, looking pretty bad for the prime minister — looking pretty bad for the prime minister. however, yesterday he ended _ minister. however, yesterday he ended in— minister. however, yesterday he ended in a — minister. however, yesterday he ended in a relatively stronger position— ended in a relatively stronger position than he had started. and heres— position than he had started. and here's why — position than he had started. and here's why. the plotters did not get enough _ here's why. the plotters did not get enough to _ here's why. the plotters did not get enough tojoin their here's why. the plotters did not get enough to join their plot. you here's why. the plotters did not get enough tojoin their plot. you need 54 letters — enough tojoin their plot. you need 54 letters to call for a vote of no confidence _ 54 letters to call for a vote of no confidence. in order for that vote to be _ confidence. in order for that vote to be held — confidence. in order for that vote to be held. the defector, christian wakeford, — to be held. the defector, christian wakeford, he actually created more unity in _ wakeford, he actually created more unity in the — wakeford, he actually created more unity in the conservative party rather — unity in the conservative party rather than reducing the unity in the conservative party. and also, not a _ the conservative party. and also, not a lot— the conservative party. and also, not a lot of— the conservative party. and also, not a lot of people joined david davies— not a lot of people joined david davies in— not a lot of people joined david davies in his public call for the prime — davies in his public call for the prime minister to go. in fact, quite the opposite. that means the prime minister— the opposite. that means the prime minister is _ the opposite. that means the prime minister is in a relatively stronger position~ — minister is in a relatively stronger position. but that is by the magic of whether the prime minister is surviving — of whether the prime minister is surviving or not. there is a slight feeling _ surviving or not. there is a slight feeling of— surviving or not. there is a slight feeling of unreality at westminster at the _ feeling of unreality at westminster at the moment because everybody knows _ at the moment because everybody knows the — at the moment because everybody knows the situation can change a lot when _ knows the situation can change a lot when sue _ knows the situation can change a lot when sue gray, the senior civil servant. — when sue gray, the senior civil servant, delivers a report into all the goings — servant, delivers a report into all the goings on with the lockdown busting — the goings on with the lockdown busting parties in whitehall, which can change the entire situation. we now know— can change the entire situation. we now know it's very unlikely we will .et now know it's very unlikely we will get this— now know it's very unlikely we will get this report this week. it is more — get this report this week. it is more likely to be the middle of next week _ more likely to be the middle of next week. . ~ more likely to be the middle of next week. ., ,, , ., more likely to be the middle of next week. ., ~' , ., , more likely to be the middle of next week. ., ,, i. , . president biden has said he thinks russia will "move in" on ukraine, but has warned that the us will inflict significant harm on moscow in response. the us secretary of state, antony blinken, will meet his russian counterpart, sergei lavrov in geneva later. in a news conference marking his first full year in office, mr biden said a russian attack would result in a conflict that could get out of hand. ghislaine maxwell has officially requested a retrial, after she was convicted on sexual abuse charges at the end of last month. the 60—year—old was found guilty of recruiting and trafficking young girls to be sexually abused by the late american financierjeffrey epstein. she has yet to be sentenced and faces up to 65 years in jail. a man in his 30s has been remanded in custody after being charged with the murder of the irish teacher ashling murphy. the 23—year—old was killed last week while she was out running along a canal path. jozef puska will appear in court on 26 january. vigils have been held across ireland, and around the world, to remember ms murphy, and to call for a change in tackling violence against women. the first foreign aid plane has arrived in tonga, carrying much—needed water and supplies for the pacific nation. it comes as new pictures have emerged showing the scale of devastation following saturday's eruption of an undersea volcano, with cars, roads and buildings covered by a thick layer of ash. at least three people are now known to have died, including a british woman. 22 minutes past eight. let's find out what is going on with the weather. a chilly start. are you off to the beach? wouldn't that be nice? although it is cold. this is one of our weather watchers pictures taking on hove this morning, were currently the temperatures are having about freezing. it is called wherever you are. more cloud around. temperatures that had hit are. more cloud around. temperatures that had bit higher. if you are just stepping out, you will notice it. and that of dry weather. a fair bit of sunshine. wintry showers in the far north of scotland and the northern as. we could see some of those in the northern moors. generally the showers coming in on a brisk wind across the east coast. they are more likely to be of rain. showers also across south—west england and also western parts of wales. they will tend to fade. temperatures at only four in aberdeen to about eight in plymouth. this evening and overnight once again we will have clear skies. an area of cloud over the area of high pressure will be thinking of here and there to produce drizzle. under those clear skies we are looking at a widespread frost. they will also be fog forming in south—west scotland and north—west england. into tomorrow we still have this cloud in the north and west. drizzle coming out of it. the foxtel weightlifting. then a lot of dry weather. a lot of sunshine. —— the fog lifting. it won't field quite as cold. the temperature range, 69. household energy bills are widely expected to go up again in april, and yesterday the boss of the bank of england warned higher prices could be here to stay well into next year. ben's taking a look for us. a real worry. people are already feeling it and they know there's to come? . , feeling it and they know there's to come? ., , . ,., another day, another serious warning about energy prices, this time from the governor of the bank of england. good morning, everyone. there's intense pressure on household budgets at the moment. we saw those inflation figures rise again yesterday. one of the big things squeezing our finances is energy prices. we've already been warned to expect further increases in our bills this spring, when the price cap is likely to be lifted. at the moment it's just over £1200 a year. that's based on average usage. you might well pay more if you use more than the average amount of gas or electricity. industry experts reckon bills might go up by another £600 or £700 when the cap rises again. that's bad news for people like tina from reading, who is already struggling. the energy increase is going to probably cripple us. - it will be a case of working out what we can just - cut back and cut back. might have to do it so we don't have | it on in the morning or the evening, | or not have it on at all. that is really scary. that is really upsetting me quite a lot. - me being disabled, i i'm only on benefits. i have only got my husband's wage. there is only so much they can give. we can't get any more benefits because he is working. - we are pushed back on that as well. we are stuck between l a rock and a hard place, i'll be totally honest. it's notjust tina who's worried. according to the debt charity stepchange, nearly nine million people borrowed £26 billion in total, just to cover their basic needs in the past year. the number of people finding it hard to keep up with their bills and credit has doubled since the start of the pandemic. and the latest warning is that the squeeze on energy bills is likely to go on for much longer. this man, andrew bailey, the governor of the bank of england, told mps yesterday that prices may stay high until the middle of next year. part of the reason is rising tensions between russia and ukraine. russia supplies about half of the eu's natural gas imports, so problems can push up prices for everyone. yesterday, the official inflation measure reached its highest level in 30 years. that 5.4% figure masks the reality though that some products on the supermarket shelves will have gone up by a lot more. the bank of england governor's comments matter because the bank had hoped high prices would be temporary. now there's a fear things could last longer than expected. so, a lot of pressure from all sides for the government to step in. it told us the energy price cap was helping protect people from even bigger price rises, and that they were listening to consumers and businesses about how to manage the costs of energy. and the other thing with all this is we are talking about inflation, the latest figure. some people may be worried that when inflation goes high eight leads to higher interest rates. it is not inevitable but if that were to happen that adds even more pressure on people where they have got that, because that becomes more expensive on the debt interest repayments. it more expensive on the debt interest repayments-— more expensive on the debt interest rea ments. , , ~ ., ., repayments. it seems like wave after wave of stuff- — repayments. it seems like wave after wave of stuff. it _ repayments. it seems like wave after wave of stuff. it is. _ repayments. it seems like wave after wave of stuff. it is. the _ repayments. it seems like wave after wave of stuff. it is. the crucial- wave of stuff. it is. the crucial thin to wave of stuff. it is. the crucial thing to remember— wave of stuff. it is. the crucial thing to remember is - wave of stuff. it is. the crucial thing to remember is people | wave of stuff. it is. the crucial. thing to remember is people are feeling the squeeze, but we can only expect it to get worse as the coming weeks and months proceed. ben. expect it to get worse as the coming weeks and months proceed. ben, thank ou. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. people in london will still need to wear a mask on tubes, buses and trams despite the lifting of restrictions due next week yesterday the prime minister borisjohnson said masks would no longer be needed in shops, schools, or public transport. but the mayor of london sadiq khan says masks will still a condition of travel on tfl services. around 30 per cent of londoners are unvaccinated. the number of nhs dentists in london fell by around 10 per cent last year according to new nhs figures. the british dental association says dentistry is "hanging by a thread" with some people waiting for up to two years for routine check—ups and many dentists leaving. nhs england says there was additionalfunding during the pandemic and hundreds of urgent dental centres were set up across england. a number of london mps have written to the royal mail to express concern over delays to deliveries in parts of the capital. some londoners are only now starting to receive post sent before christmas. royal mail says the problems are only affecting a small number of areas and are the result of staff shortages caused by the pandemic. you may recognise him from playing the cello at prince harry and meghan's wedding, now sheku kanneh—mason has gone back to school to inspire children. music the charity london music masters helps bring music lessons to primary schools across the capital — and this one in southwark — was lucky enough to get a master class from him. with the music, there is so much spontaneity required to be able to play together with the children and for them to hear my sound up close, hopefully when they come to practice again, they can remember the sound they have heard. let's take a look at the tube. just the part closure of the northern line until mid —may for major works. onto the weather now with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. a few splashes of rain yesterday and it felt milder but today we are back into the chilly air and high pressure building from the west set to keep us dry as we head through the rest of the week and there will be some more frosty nights to come in more fog returning over the weekend. visibility not too bad this morning but there is a widespread frost to start the morning, and temperatures have dipped below freezing for many of us and we will see a lot of blue sky and sunshine and a pretty winter's day but feeling cold with a chilly northerly wind and temperatures not getting past amid single figures or for five celsius for most. as we head for the evening and overnight there will be a widespread sharp frost and temperatures for many away from the towns might drop as low as —3 or —4 celsius and perhaps a mist forming on friday. on friday the high pressure is firmly with us and that will keep us dry, and we have milder air feeding around it as well and there will be a bit more in the way of cloud and the high pressure will last as we head through the weekend so it is dry and that will see a return to the misty, foggy mornings and where we see the fog it will be very slow to lift and clear. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. now though it's back to naga and charlie. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 'morning live' follows us on bbc one this morning. let's find out what's in store with sam and gethin. prepping for the programme. coming up on morning live, prostate cancer is the most common male cancer affecting one in eight in their lifetime. coming up on morning live, prostate cancer is the most common kevin duala has been to find out why and what men, especially those over 50, can do to protect themselves against the disease. and with plan b restrictions eased in england. dr xand will be filling us in on the latest. yes, mandatory mask wearing and working from home are out! plus, if you've had a serious reaction to your boosterjab, i'll be telling you why it could actually all be in your head! also today, dom littlewood is here to tell us why your car could be worth more now than when you paid for it! and it's down to a shortage of chips from china! not those chips, we can confirm that. plus, he is a culinary icon with a 50—year career that's seen him travel the world. rick stein's giving us a taste of his new tv series, all about the food and culture of cornwall. and once we've whet your appetite, what could be better than a warming bowl of risotto on a cold, january day. anna haugh is here to teach us the perfect recipe. that's right and the good news is you don't need to be tied to the stove for hours and this is going to be your secret weapon! there is science behind the wooden spoon. just wait. plus, graziano's here for strictly fitness and is bringing us some sunshine this morning with a 'morecambe and wise' inspired move from susan calman's 2017 quickstep. lovely. see you at 9.15. i love that move. it's a good move. this might — i love that move. it's a good move. this might be _ i love that move. it's a good move. this might be the _ i love that move. it's a good move. this might be the first _ i love that move. it's a good move. this might be the first time - this might be the first time this week i can pull a move. the to working was terrible. i'm still getting over it. that working was terrible. i'm still getting over it.— working was terrible. i'm still getting over it. at least you are aroin for getting over it. at least you are going for it- _ getting over it. at least you are going for it. exactly. _ getting over it. at least you are going for it. exactly. that - getting over it. at least you are going for it. exactly. that is - getting over it. at least you arej going for it. exactly. that is the ke to going for it. exactly. that is the key to it- _ going for it. exactly. that is the key to it- i _ going for it. exactly. that is the key to it- lam _ going for it. exactly. that is the key to it. i am sure _ going for it. exactly. that is the key to it. i am sure you - going for it. exactly. that is the key to it. i am sure you will- going for it. exactly. that is the j key to it. i am sure you will pull it off at some _ key to it. i am sure you will pull it off at some point. _ martin clunes was just a boy when his father gave him a book about a famous raft expedition across the pacific — and he's been fascinated by the ocean's islands ever since. his new tv series sees him fullfilling a lifetime's ambition to visit the region — and hejoins us now to tell us all about it. good morning to you. good morning. how are you? — good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not — good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not bad _ good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not bad at _ good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not bad at all. - good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not bad at all. in - good morning to you. good morning. how are you? not bad at all. in a - how are you? not bad at all. in a way this— how are you? not bad at all. in a way this starts on a tricky note because — way this starts on a tricky note because obviously the world's attention has been on tonga, one of the islands— attention has been on tonga, one of the islands you visited. there is a bit of— the islands you visited. there is a bit of good — the islands you visited. there is a bit of good news this morning and we know the _ bit of good news this morning and we know the first aid missions have got their and _ know the first aid missions have got theirand there are know the first aid missions have got their and there are pictures emerging that this is a place that you went — emerging that this is a place that you went and saw and you must be concerned — you went and saw and you must be concerned about the people you met. yes, concerned about the people you met. yes. and _ concerned about the people you met. yes. and i_ concerned about the people you met. yes, and i have been reaching out because _ yes, and i have been reaching out because all— yes, and i have been reaching out because all of their communications are down _ because all of their communications are down. there is one guy quarantining in new zealand i spoke to and _ quarantining in new zealand i spoke to and he's— quarantining in new zealand i spoke to and he's spoken to his wife who is on _ to and he's spoken to his wife who is on the _ to and he's spoken to his wife who is on the island and they are ok but these _ is on the island and they are ok but these islands are not much above sea level anyway and he was over at cop26 _ level anyway and he was over at cop26 because of the rising sleek levels _ cop26 because of the rising sleek levels being a big issue for tonga so to— levels being a big issue for tonga so to have — levels being a big issue for tonga so to have a tsunami coming is devastating. devastating. there are so many _ devastating. devastating. there are so many islands. really remote ones and we _ so many islands. really remote ones and we are _ so many islands. really remote ones and we are only hearing from the main _ and we are only hearing from the main island, are we? it is and we are only hearing from the main island, are we?— main island, are we? it is a coincidence _ main island, are we? it is a coincidence it _ main island, are we? it is a coincidence it has - main island, are we? it is a| coincidence it has happened main island, are we? it is a - coincidence it has happened now and we wish all the people they're the best as they try to recover. we mentioned a story that your father used to tell you about or read through. we lost you again. oh, you have got the book there. i remember that book. he have got the book there. i remember that book. . , have got the book there. i remember that book. ., , , ., have got the book there. i remember that book. , ., ., that book. he was the captain of the mission, that book. he was the captain of the mission. but — that book. he was the captain of the mission, but this _ that book. he was the captain of the mission, but this is _ that book. he was the captain of the mission, but this is eric _ mission, but this is eric hesselbjerg, one of the crew, who was an— hesselbjerg, one of the crew, who was an artist and he did all of these — was an artist and he did all of these lovely drawings and things in these lovely drawings and things in the islands that stuck with me and to get— the islands that stuck with me and to get to _ the islands that stuck with me and to get to go there and to see it all was incredible and so much more than i was incredible and so much more than i bargained _ was incredible and so much more than i bargained for, the whole sense of greater— i bargained for, the whole sense of greater polynesia and the links the islands— greater polynesia and the links the islands have. they said they do not consider— islands have. they said they do not consider themselves to be separated by the _ consider themselves to be separated by the oceans butjoined by them and they call— by the oceans butjoined by them and they call themselves the liquid continent because they were sailing around _ continent because they were sailing around in _ continent because they were sailing around in balsa wood rafts like this centuries _ around in balsa wood rafts like this centuries ago, whizzing around the pacific— centuries ago, whizzing around the pacific and — centuries ago, whizzing around the pacific and it put us to shame. you have had the _ pacific and it put us to shame. gm. have had the dream job. something you've wanted to do since you were a little boy and now you get to go and meet these fascinating people in fascinating places. that's not about fascinating places. that�*s not about gig- fascinating places. that's not about .|. , �* , fascinating places. that's not about gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't t it at gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't try it at home- _ gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't try it at home. no, _ gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't try it at home. no, it— gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't try it at home. no, it is, _ gig. yes, it's very hard work, don't try it at home. no, it is, it's - try it at home. no, it is, it's really— try it at home. no, it is, it's really lucky _ try it at home. no, it is, it's really lucky that i get to go to all sorts— really lucky that i get to go to all sorts of— really lucky that i get to go to all sorts of islands and i hopefully go back at— sorts of islands and i hopefully go back at the end of the year to finish — back at the end of the year to finish lt— back at the end of the year to finish. �* ., ., ~' ~' back at the end of the year to finish. �* ., ., ~ ~ ., ., finish. it didn't look like a hard work. it looked _ finish. it didn't look like a hard work. it looked like _ finish. it didn't look like a hard work. it looked like thoroughly enjoyable work. i work. it looked like thoroughly enjoyable work.— work. it looked like thoroughly en'o able work. ., enjoyable work. i made it look easy. that is your — enjoyable work. i made it look easy. that is your skill, _ enjoyable work. i made it look easy. that is your skill, of _ enjoyable work. i made it look easy. that is your skill, of course. - enjoyable work. i made it look easy. that is your skill, of course. you - that is your skill, of course. you are staring danger right in the face and putting all of your bravery out there and you made that look easy as well. take a look at this.— well. take a look at this. stop. when you _ well. take a look at this. stop. when you are _ well. take a look at this. stop. when you are ready. _ are you ready, martin? yes. these are adult black —tipped reef sharks— these are adult black —tipped reef sharks which grow to about five feet long _ they are, by nature, quite timid, hence _ they are, by nature, quite timid, hence they— they are, by nature, quite timid, hence they swim away from me. good. yeah, _ hence they swim away from me. good. yeah you _ hence they swim away from me. good. yeah. you say— hence they swim away from me. good. yeah, you say that, hence they swim away from you, but what we did not show is the fact that the guide you were with then told you in no uncertain terms to get out of the water. , , , ., water. yes. yes, there were some bi . . er water. yes. yes, there were some bigger sharks — water. yes. yes, there were some bigger sharks coming _ water. yes. yes, there were some bigger sharks coming down - water. yes. yes, there were some bigger sharks coming down below| water. yes. yes, there were some - bigger sharks coming down below and he said. _ bigger sharks coming down below and he said, let's get out of the water now _ he said, let's get out of the water now. ~ . y ., he said, let's get out of the water now. ~ ., , ., ., , he said, let's get out of the water now. ~ ., ., , he said, let's get out of the water now. ~ ., ., he said, let's get out of the water now. ., ., now. what you learned is as soon as the start now. what you learned is as soon as they start chasing _ now. what you learned is as soon as they start chasing fish, _ now. what you learned is as soon as they start chasing fish, that's - now. what you learned is as soon as they start chasing fish, that's when l they start chasing fish, that's when you don't want to be mistaken for one. , . , you don't want to be mistaken for one. , ., , ., , one. yes, and they have bitten --eole one. yes, and they have bitten people by _ one. yes, and they have bitten people by mistake, _ one. yes, and they have bitten people by mistake, which - one. yes, and they have bitten people by mistake, which is i one. yes, and they have bitten | people by mistake, which is not one. yes, and they have bitten i people by mistake, which is not a mistake _ people by mistake, which is not a mistake you want to take part in, really _ mistake you want to take part in, really ls — mistake you want to take part in, reall . , . , mistake you want to take part in, reall . , ., , ., really. is it a myth that the pacific islanders _ really. is it a myth that the pacific islanders have - really. is it a myth that the pacific islanders have a - really. is it a myth that the - pacific islanders have a particular way about them? their lifestyle, they don't get stressed in the same way other people do. is that a myth or something you saw or felt evidence of?— or something you saw or felt evidence of? ., �* , , evidence of? that's interesting. i wasn't aware _ evidence of? that's interesting. i wasn't aware of _ evidence of? that's interesting. i wasn't aware of that. _ evidence of? that's interesting. i wasn't aware of that. they - evidence of? that's interesting. i wasn't aware of that. they are i wasn't aware of that. they are really — wasn't aware of that. they are really nice _ wasn't aware of that. they are really nice. i tell you what they have _ really nice. i tell you what they have got — really nice. i tell you what they have got we don't have is a sense of welcoming _ have got we don't have is a sense of welcoming visitors or people who want _ welcoming visitors or people who want to— welcoming visitors or people who want to live there because it is such— want to live there because it is such a — want to live there because it is such a divided area, all the different— such a divided area, all the different nations but they are all linked _ different nations but they are all linked to— different nations but they are all linked to know about each other and they are _ linked to know about each other and they are welcome of incomers, like in fiji _ they are welcome of incomers, like in fiji where— they are welcome of incomers, like in fiji where we visited, there are roman— in fiji where we visited, there are roman catholics, hindus, muslims, buddhists. — roman catholics, hindus, muslims, buddhists, everybody living perfectly happily together and you can see _ perfectly happily together and you can see best in the food market because — can see best in the food market because they've all got different diets _ because they've all got different diets and recipes and things and it is like _ diets and recipes and things and it is like a _ diets and recipes and things and it is like a firework display of colour in the _ is like a firework display of colour in the markets. beautiful. on is like a firework display of colour in the markets. beautiful.- in the markets. beautiful. on the sub'ect of in the markets. beautiful. on the subject of wildlife, _ in the markets. beautiful. on the subject of wildlife, my _ in the markets. beautiful. on the subject of wildlife, my eye - in the markets. beautiful. on the subject of wildlife, my eye is - in the markets. beautiful. on the l subject of wildlife, my eye is drawn to the very lively animal. is that your dog? introduce us. that to the very lively animal. is that your dog? introduce us.- your dog? introduce us. that is heidi mayne- — your dog? introduce us. that is heidi mayne. she _ your dog? introduce us. that is heidi mayne. she is _ your dog? introduce us. that is heidi mayne. she is responsivej your dog? introduce us. that is i heidi mayne. she is responsive to her name. — heidi mayne. she is responsive to her name, isn't _ heidi mayne. she is responsive to her name, isn't she, _ heidi mayne. she is responsive to her name, isn't she, obviously? l heidi mayne. she is responsive to i her name, isn't she, obviously? she is meditating _ her name, isn't she, obviously? she is meditating stop she sparked out. they all have a little after breakfast now. that is a good life. there _ breakfast now. that is a good life. there reason i mention him in a way is that your life is very much about animals. you live on a farm, effectively and are surrounded by animals and that's become a first love for you. i animals and that's become a first love for you-— love for you. i think my family miaht love for you. i think my family might like _ love for you. i think my family might like to _ love for you. i think my family might like to think— love for you. i think my family j might like to think differently. love for you. i think my family - might like to think differently. let me rephrase that. you love your family dearly, but second only to them... , , ., ., ., them... yes. yes, i love animal company _ them... yes. yes, i love animal company and — them... yes. yes, i love animal company and i've _ them... yes. yes, i love animal company and i've just _ them... yes. yes, i love animal company and i've just been - them... yes. yes, i love animal| company and i've just been here them... yes. yes, i love animal- company and i've just been here for the last— company and i've just been here for the last eight or nine months hanging _ the last eight or nine months hanging out with the other dogs. they— hanging out with the other dogs. they are — hanging out with the other dogs. they are my bosses, these dogs, and the horses _ they are my bosses, these dogs, and the horses. it's a good life. what did ou the horses. it's a good life. what did you learn _ the horses. it's a good life. what did you learn from _ the horses. it's a good life. what did you learn from this _ the horses. it's a good life. what did you learn from this series, i did you learn from this series, martin, about yourself? you get given these opportunities and on paper they look fantastic and you think, yeah, great, i get to travel around but you do come away from these experienced slightly changed or moved. definitely and i feel a connection with the places i've been to add more than other islands i have visited, the islands in the pacific see more remote. you have visited, the islands in the pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but pacific see more remote. you can fly there. but you _ pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but you have _ pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but you have to _ pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but you have to get _ pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but you have to get to - pacific see more remote. you can fly there, but you have to get to tahiti i there, but you have to get to tahiti first and _ there, but you have to get to tahiti first and i_ there, but you have to get to tahiti first and ijust feel very, very lucky— first and ijust feel very, very lucky that— first and ijust feel very, very lucky that i've been there and woken up lucky that i've been there and woken up in _ lucky that i've been there and woken up in this— lucky that i've been there and woken up in this little corner of the world — up in this little corner of the world but— up in this little corner of the world but i'm away from home, which i am world but i'm away from home, which i am quite _ world but i'm away from home, which i am quite a _ world but i'm away from home, which i am quite a lot and i gaze out to see and— i am quite a lot and i gaze out to see and think there is a connection here between me and my home on the other side _ here between me and my home on the other side of— here between me and my home on the other side of the planet, or you look— other side of the planet, or you look at — other side of the planet, or you look at the _ other side of the planet, or you look at the moon and think that is the same — look at the moon and think that is the same moon but, yeah, i definitely— the same moon but, yeah, i definitely come away, a bigger person — definitely come away, a bigger person i— definitely come away, a bigger erson. , ., , ., definitely come away, a bigger erson. , ., y., definitely come away, a bigger erson. , ., , person. i understand you took gifts with ou person. i understand you took gifts with you and _ person. i understand you took gifts with you and you — person. i understand you took gifts with you and you talk— person. i understand you took gifts with you and you talk about - person. i understand you took gifts with you and you talk about the - with you and you talk about the welcome you get. is it right you took shortbread on some occasions and how did it go down? iwhen took shortbread on some occasions and how did it go down?— took shortbread on some occasions and how did it go down? when we went to visit with one _ and how did it go down? when we went to visit with one tribe _ and how did it go down? when we went to visit with one tribe who _ and how did it go down? when we went to visit with one tribe who believe - to visit with one tribe who believe that the _ to visit with one tribe who believe that the duke of edinburgh was their god, we _ that the duke of edinburgh was their god, we took them a big bag of rice, chicken. _ god, we took them a big bag of rice, chicken. live — god, we took them a big bag of rice, chicken, live chicken, some shortbread from harrods and a more recent— shortbread from harrods and a more recent portrait of the duke of edinburgh than the one they had and it is sad, _ edinburgh than the one they had and it is sad, we — edinburgh than the one they had and it is sad, we made it so long ago, before _ it is sad, we made it so long ago, before the — it is sad, we made it so long ago, before the lockdown and everything and it _ before the lockdown and everything and it seems doubly poignant watching it now that the duke of edinburgh has gone but they were the loveliest _ edinburgh has gone but they were the loveliest people. a lot edinburgh has gone but they were the loveliest people.— loveliest people. a lot of people would agree- — loveliest people. a lot of people would agree. it's _ loveliest people. a lot of people would agree. it's like _ loveliest people. a lot of people would agree. it's like an - loveliest people. a lot of people | would agree. it's like an escape. loveliest people. a lot of people - would agree. it's like an escape. we all need a little escape and it's one of those moments. thank you so much. looks like great fun and nice to catch up with you and good luck with the animals.— with the animals. martin always brinrs me with the animals. martin always brings me a _ with the animals. martin always brings me a sense _ with the animals. martin always brings me a sense of— with the animals. martin always brings me a sense of calm. - with the animals. martin always brings me a sense of calm. i i with the animals. martin always i brings me a sense of calm. i don't know why. is brings me a sense of calm. i don't know why-— brings me a sense of calm. i don't know wh . , , , ., know why. is he still listening? you have made — know why. is he still listening? you have made people _ know why. is he still listening? you have made people feel— know why. is he still listening? you have made people feel calm. - know why. is he still listening? you. have made people feel calm. making us feel calmer. you have made people feel calm. making us feel calmer-— have made people feel calm. making us feel calmer.- good, - have made people feel calm. making us feel calmer.- good, good. | us feel calmer. you do. good, good. we have seen _ us feel calmer. you do. good, good. we have seen the _ us feel calmer. you do. good, good. we have seen the dog. _ us feel calmer. you do. good, good. we have seen the dog. heidi - us feel calmer. you do. good, good. we have seen the dog. heidi made. | we have seen the dog. heidi made. she does move, _ we have seen the dog. heidi made. she does move, but _ we have seen the dog. heidi made. she does move, but she _ we have seen the dog. heidi made. she does move, but she is - we have seen the dog. heidi made. she does move, but she is chilled. l she does move, but she is chilled. she does move, but she is chilled. she is fully animated, just chilled. i she is fully animated, just chilled. lthink. _ she is fully animated, just chilled. i think, martin, she is fully animated, just chilled. ithink, martin, yourwhole she is fully animated, just chilled. ithink, martin, your whole house i think, martin, your whole house has a feeling i was then about it, just from that little window we get. it feels very chilled. you have calmed me, that soothing voice and background. film; calmed me, that soothing voice and background-— calmed me, that soothing voice and background._ thanks, - background. any time. thanks, martin, background. any time. thanks, martin. take — background. any time. thanks, martin, take care. _ we are back to the furnace... i think andy murray could do with some zen to— think andy murray could do with some zen to calm _ think andy murray could do with some zen to calm his nerves. he is two sets— zen to calm his nerves. he is two sets down, — zen to calm his nerves. he is two sets down, but with andy murray, you can never— sets down, but with andy murray, you can never write him off, can you? not after— can never write him off, can you? not after that brilliant five set match in the first round. but not after that brilliant five set match in the first round. but has it taken something _ match in the first round. but has it taken something out _ match in the first round. but has it taken something out of— match in the first round. but has it taken something out of him. - match in the first round. but has it taken something out of him. we . match in the first round. but has it i taken something out of him. we will come _ taken something out of him. we will come to— taken something out of him. we will come to emma raducanu in a moment. andy murray now needs the one of those epic fightbacks, the kind we used to love so much, earlier in his career, if he's to stay in the australian open. he's up against the japanese qualifier taro daniel. he has shown strength and determination has been able to break the serve _ determination has been able to break the serve but his opponent has the edge _ the serve but his opponent has the edge when — the serve but his opponent has the edge when it matters and may be not as mobile _ edge when it matters and may be not as mobile as he was in the first round — as mobile as he was in the first round which does seem to have taken a lot out— round which does seem to have taken a lot out of— round which does seem to have taken a lot out of him and daniel has now made _ a lot out of him and daniel has now made it— a lot out of him and daniel has now made it 2-0 — a lot out of him and daniel has now made it 2—0 insects. 6—4, 6—4. emma raducanu has made a great start to her match against danka, kovinic of montenegro. she broke serve in the opening game. raducanu had a bit of a slump after winning the us open in september but she returned to form with her win over sloane stephens on tuesday — she lead's kovinic 3—1. tottenham pulled off an incredible comeback to win 3—2 at leicester last night, to move up to fifth in the premier league. the home side led until the match went into stoppage time — james maddison with the goal that put them 2—1 up, but with 90 minutes plus five on the clock, substitute stephen bergwijn , scored what looked to be a late equaliser, and straight from the restart, spurs got the ball back and harry kane played through for bergwine to score again. manchester united overcame a really poor start to beat brentford 3—1. teenager anthony elanga, scoring his first goal of the season to get them going in the second half but when the manager made changes, cristiano ronaldo didn't even try to hide his frustration at being replaced late on. and took him off and but he came back from a little injury i was not training for one half weeks and i said, listen, you are 36 and in fantastic physical shape but once you are a head coach at one stage yourself, maybe one day you will see it through the glasses of a head coach. england's netball team can learn a lot from their late defeat to australia, in their quad series final last night in london according to head coachjess thirlby. herteam were on top, for most of this match, against their old rivals at the copper box and had a one point lead, going into the final quarter, but in a remarkable finish from the aussies saw them turn it round and win comfortably — by 58—46. a valuable lesson in what can happen ahead _ a valuable lesson in what can happen ahead of— a valuable lesson in what can happen ahead of the commonwealth games in birmingham in the summer where england— birmingham in the summer where england will be the defending champions. england's women have begun their bid to win the ashes for the first time since 2014. they've been put into bat by australia in the first t20 in adelaide/ 62 without loss off seven overs and it's a _ 62 without loss off seven overs and it's a multiformat game, so they have _ it's a multiformat game, so they have a _ it's a multiformat game, so they have a one—day game, one test match and 2020 _ have a one—day game, one test match and 2020 games. back to the tennis, by the _ and 2020 games. back to the tennis, by the way. _ and 2020 games. back to the tennis, by the way, dan evans went through without— by the way, dan evans went through without him — by the way, dan evans went through without him taking a ball but heather— without him taking a ball but heather watson went out. —— hitting a ball _ heather watson went out. -- hitting a ball. ~ , ., ., a ball. when his emma raducanu -la inc? a ball. when his emma raducanu playing? she _ a ball. when his emma raducanu playing? she is — a ball. when his emma raducanu playing? she is doing _ a ball. when his emma raducanu playing? she is doing well. - a ball. when his emma raducanu playing? she is doing well. an i a ball. when his emma raducanu i playing? she is doing well. an early lead in her match. _ playing? she is doing well. an early lead in her match. doing _ playing? she is doing well. an early lead in her match. doing well. - lead in her match. doing well. thanks, mike. _ lead in her match. doing well. thanks, mike. there - lead in her match. doing well. thanks, mike. there is - lead in her match. doing well. thanks, mike. there is some l lead in her match. doing well. - thanks, mike. there is some sunshine out there today and of course carroll will bring that anyway. there is a lot of sunshine for many of us and that is going to be the forecast today and you can already see from one of the weather watchers pictures taken in leicestershire earlier we have the sunshine but it is cold and currently at —1 so we are looking at a widespread frost and some wintry showers peppering the north of mainland scotland on the north of mainland scotland on the northern isles and we could see one or two wintry showers on the north york moors but most of the showers we see along the east coast will be rain and also some showers across parts of wales and south—west england and they will fade through the course of the day but we have gusty winds, particularly gusty in the north and east and that will accentuate the cold feel and at times they will be gusty across north—west scotland. these are the temperatures, between two and 8 degrees on the ceiling and over another high pressure is dominating us and has an area of cloud toppling over the top of it and the cloud will be thick enough for some spots of drizzle but for many it will be dry and cold and we are looking at a widespread frost and the chance of fog forming across south—west scotland and north—west england so tomorrow that is how we start once again with a lot of dry weather and again with a lot of dry weather and a frosty start and the fog slowly lifting and all of this cloud moving around the area of high pressure dominating but still picking up four spots of drizzle and light rain here and there but again that will be the exception, not the rule and it will not be as windy down the north sea coastline. temperatures between seven and 9 degrees. heading into the weekend, the high pressure that has been with us for a while now is going to be with us into next week and it is still dominating in on sunday we have a weather front trying to come in across the north west bringing rain but it is a cold front and note how we start to see something a little bit cooler coming into the north west. but on saturday any fog will be slow to clear under sunny skies will be on the east and south and a bit more cloud in the west and these are the temperatures. 11 in stornoway and aberdeen and ten in belfast but for the rest of the country we are looking between seven and eight. sunday sees a bit more cloud and some sunshine for some of us but we have this weather front coming in across the north west introducing the rain and not particularly windy for most but noticeably breezy in the north but note the temperature on saturday in stornoway, it will be” note the temperature on saturday in stornoway, it will he” were note the temperature on saturday in stornoway, it will be 11 were behind the cold front temperatures slip a bit, so we are looking at nine and as we head into next week, the same area is with us and the weather remains settled and at times the cloud will be thick enough for drizzle and we will see some sunshine as well but by night you can expect some fog will carol, where you listening to martin gloom is a moment ago. do carol, where you listening to martin gloom is a moment ago.— carol, where you listening to martin gloom is a moment ago. do you listen to what is going _ gloom is a moment ago. do you listen to what is going on _ gloom is a moment ago. do you listen to what is going on on _ gloom is a moment ago. do you listen to what is going on on the _ to what is going on on the programme?— to what is going on on the - programme?_ charlie, i to what is going on on the _ programme?_ charlie, i am programme? how rude! charlie, i am also working — programme? how rude! charlie, i am also working while _ programme? how rude! charlie, i am also working while the _ programme? how rude! charlie, i am also working while the programme i programme? how rude! charlie, i am also working while the programme is| also working while the programme is on air— also working while the programme is on air but— also working while the programme is on air but i_ also working while the programme is on air but i did hear the end and i heard— on air but i did hear the end and i heard about— on air but i did hear the end and i heard about the dog.— on air but i did hear the end and i heard about the dog. martin, when he was a little boy _ heard about the dog. martin, when he was a little boy he _ heard about the dog. martin, when he was a little boy he read _ heard about the dog. martin, when he was a little boy he read stories - was a little boy he read stories about the pacific islands and he dreamt one day that he would go there and i will give you a free pitch, is there a place in carol kirkwood's head where you are thinking, i would love to go there and never done it. where would you pick a spot on the world map? i pick a spot on the world map? i think i would like to go to tahiti. i think i would like to go to tahiti. i can— think i would like to go to tahiti. i can see — think i would like to go to tahiti. i can see you there. is think i would like to go to tahiti. i can see you there.— i can see you there. is there a reason other— i can see you there. is there a reason other than _ i can see you there. is there a reason other than it _ i can see you there. is there a reason other than it is - i can see you there. is there a reason other than it is nice? l i can see you there. is there a i reason other than it is nice? any particular reason? it reason other than it is nice? any particular reason?— reason other than it is nice? any particular reason? it 'ust sounds in tillich. i have _ particular reason? it 'ust sounds in tillich. i have an _ particular reason? itjust sounds in tillich. i have an image _ particular reason? itjust sounds in tillich. i have an image in - particular reason? itjust sounds in tillich. i have an image in my - particular reason? itjust sounds in tillich. i have an image in my mind and we _ tillich. i have an image in my mind and we seen— tillich. i have an image in my mind and i've seen pictures of it and i would _ and i've seen pictures of it and i would love _ and i've seen pictures of it and i would love to go —— itjust sounds idyllic _ would love to go —— itjust sounds idyllic. especially bora bora, one ofthe _ idyllic. especially bora bora, one of the water bungalows. | idyllic. especially bora bora, one of the water bungalows. i can see ou with of the water bungalows. i can see you with the _ of the water bungalows. i can see you with the flower _ of the water bungalows. i can see you with the flower garland. - of the water bungalows. i can see you with the flower garland. i - of the water bungalows. i can see l you with the flower garland. i think it would be perfect. i'm helping with the pitch.— with the pitch. very interesting weather. and _ with the pitch. very interesting weather. and if _ with the pitch. very interesting weather. and if you _ with the pitch. very interesting weather. and if you need - with the pitch. very interesting weather. and if you need a - with the pitch. very interesting - weather. and if you need a producer, i am very good _ weather. and if you need a producer, i am very good at _ weather. and if you need a producer, i am very good at organising. - weather. and if you need a producer, i am very good at organising. i - weather. and if you need a producer, i am very good at organising. i can i i am very good at organising. i can help, no problem.— i am very good at organising. i can help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it — help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it in _ help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it in mind. _ help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it in mind. uso _ help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it in mind. uso know- help, no problem. very kind of you, i will bear it in mind. uso know she| i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not i will bear it in mind. uso know she will rrot put — i will bear it in mind. uso know she will rrot put my _ i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not put my name _ i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not put my name in. _ i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not put my name in. i - i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not put my name in. i can - i will bear it in mind. uso know she will not put my name in. i can see l will not put my name in. i can see it now. she was the first deaf contestant and winner of strictly come dancing, and now rose ayling—ellis is set to make history again — by taking part in the uk's first arena touring show that will have a british sign language interpreter at every performance. "strictly live" kicks off tonight! let's find out all about it now with strictly star sara davies, and marie pascall, who's going to co—ordinate the interpreting in the shows. also with us this morning, is marie biswell, who's going to provide sign language for our interview today. welcome to all three of you. marie, first of all, you are the interpret coordinator for the strictly tour and when i read it, i was surprised that this had not been done before. not the strictly tour necessarily, but any tour that you had not had interpreters before. you but any tour that you had not had interpreters before.— but any tour that you had not had interpreters before. you are right. it's aoian interpreters before. you are right. it's going to _ interpreters before. you are right. it's going to be — interpreters before. you are right. it's going to be the _ interpreters before. you are right. it's going to be the biggest - it's going to be the biggest accessible bsl arena tour in history and it's— accessible bsl arena tour in history and it's never been done before and we hope _ and it's never been done before and we hope it— and it's never been done before and we hope it sets a precedent for other— we hope it sets a precedent for other motors and event organiser that they— other motors and event organiser that they will then follow suit, so we have — that they will then follow suit, so we have a — that they will then follow suit, so we have a lot riding on this. -- other we have a lot riding on this. » other promoters. how does it work and what do people see, on stage and on screen? ., ., ., on screen? there are two large screens of— on screen? there are two large screens of the _ on screen? there are two large screens of the size _ on screen? there are two large screens of the size of _ on screen? there are two large - screens of the size of double-decker screens of the size of double—decker buses— screens of the size of double—decker buses and _ screens of the size of double—decker buses and it — screens of the size of double—decker buses and it means the deaf community can sit anywhere they want with their— community can sit anywhere they want with their family and friends and the interpreter will be on part of that screen, right throughout the whole _ that screen, right throughout the whole show. that screen, right throughout the whole show— that screen, right throughout the whole show. ., . ., ., whole show. how excited on a scale of one to ten _ whole show. how excited on a scale of one to ten are _ whole show. how excited on a scale of one to ten are you? _ whole show. how excited on a scale of one to ten are you? definitely i of one to ten are you? definitely and 11. of one to ten are you? definitely and 11- final— of one to ten are you? definitely and 11. final dress _ of one to ten are you? definitely and 11. final dress run _ of one to ten are you? definitely and 11. final dress run yesterday| and ii. final dress run yesterday and ii. final dress run yesterday and it— and ii. final dress run yesterday and it was— and ii. final dress run yesterday and it was looking _ and ii. final dress run yesterday and it was looking amazing. i and ii. final dress run yesterday and it was looking amazing. smj and 11. final dress run yesterday and it was looking amazing. so, come on, what and it was looking amazing. so, come on. what can — and it was looking amazing. so, come on. what can you _ and it was looking amazing. so, come on, what can you tell— and it was looking amazing. so, come on, what can you tell me _ and it was looking amazing. so, come on, what can you tell me about - and it was looking amazing. so, come on, what can you tell me about what i on, what can you tell me about what people will enjoy on the tour? people will en'oy on the tour? it's been people will enjoy on the tour? it's been brilliant for me because in the past we _ been brilliant for me because in the past we done — been brilliant for me because in the past i've done my— been brilliant for me because in the past i've done my dances _ been brilliant for me because in the past i've done my dances and - been brilliant for me because in the past i've done my dances and we i past i've done my dances and we never— past i've done my dances and we never get — past i've done my dances and we never get to— past i've done my dances and we never get to dance _ past i've done my dances and we never get to dance as _ past i've done my dances and we never get to dance as a - past i've done my dances and we never get to dance as a group, i never get to dance as a group, whereas— never get to dance as a group, whereas what— never get to dance as a group, whereas what we _ never get to dance as a group, whereas what we do _ never get to dance as a group, whereas what we do on - never get to dance as a group, whereas what we do on the i never get to dance as a group, i whereas what we do on the tour, is we put _ whereas what we do on the tour, is we put the — whereas what we do on the tour, is we put the celebrities _ whereas what we do on the tour, is we put the celebrities with - whereas what we do on the tour, is we put the celebrities with the i we put the celebrities with the group — we put the celebrities with the group dances _ we put the celebrities with the group dances so _ we put the celebrities with the group dances so we _ we put the celebrities with the group dances so we are - we put the celebrities with the group dances so we are with i we put the celebrities with the i group dances so we are with the we put the celebrities with the - group dances so we are with the big presentations. _ group dances so we are with the big presentations, so— group dances so we are with the big presentations, so that _ group dances so we are with the big presentations, so that has - group dances so we are with the big presentations, so that has been i presentations, so that has been fantastic— presentations, so that has been fantastic and _ presentations, so that has been fantastic and we _ presentations, so that has been fantastic and we all _ presentations, so that has been fantastic and we all get - presentations, so that has been fantastic and we all get to - presentations, so that has been fantastic and we all get to do i presentations, so that has been fantastic and we all get to do ai fantastic and we all get to do a couple — fantastic and we all get to do a couple of— fantastic and we all get to do a coume of the _ fantastic and we all get to do a couple of the big _ fantastic and we all get to do a couple of the big group- fantastic and we all get to do a couple of the big group dancesi fantastic and we all get to do a - couple of the big group dances and do our— couple of the big group dances and do our little — couple of the big group dances and do our little dances _ couple of the big group dances and do our little dances in _ couple of the big group dances and do our little dances in the - couple of the big group dances and do our little dances in the middle, | do our little dances in the middle, the dances — do our little dances in the middle, the dances oh _ do our little dances in the middle, the dances on our— do our little dances in the middle, the dances on our own, _ do our little dances in the middle, the dances on our own, i- do our little dances in the middle, the dances on our own, i should . do our little dances in the middle, i the dances on our own, i should say. are you _ the dances on our own, i should say. are you getting — the dances on our own, i should say. are you getting to _ the dances on our own, i should say. are you getting to do _ the dances on our own, i should say. are you getting to do your _ are you getting to do your favourite?— are you getting to do your favourite? ~ , h, , , , are you getting to do your favourite? ~ w, , , , , favourite? absolutely. this is my rumba here. _ favourite? absolutely. this is my rumba here, and _ favourite? absolutely. this is my rumba here, and i— favourite? absolutely. this is my rumba here, and i loved - favourite? absolutely. this is my rumba here, and i loved that - favourite? absolutely. this is my| rumba here, and i loved that one. favourite? absolutely. this is my i rumba here, and i loved that one. i don't _ rumba here, and i loved that one. i don't know— rumba here, and i loved that one. i don't know if— rumba here, and i loved that one. i don't know if you _ rumba here, and i loved that one. i don't know if you remember. - don't know if you remember. it started — don't know if you remember. it started off— don't know if you remember. it started off a _ don't know if you remember. it started off a little _ don't know if you remember. it started off a little bit _ don't know if you remember. it started off a little bit iffy, - don't know if you remember. it started off a little bit iffy, the i started off a little bit iffy, the week— started off a little bit iffy, the week when _ started off a little bit iffy, the week when i_ started off a little bit iffy, the week when i was _ started off a little bit iffy, the week when i was right - started off a little bit iffy, the week when i was right at - started off a little bit iffy, the week when i was right at the i started off a little bit iffy, the - week when i was right at the bottom, but i came _ week when i was right at the bottom, but i came back— week when i was right at the bottom, but i came back in _ week when i was right at the bottom, but i came back in the _ week when i was right at the bottom, but i came back in the second - week when i was right at the bottom, but i came back in the second week, i but i came back in the second week, top of— but i came back in the second week, top of the _ but i came back in the second week, top of the leaderboard _ but i came back in the second week, top of the leaderboard with - but i came back in the second week, top of the leaderboard with the - top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot — top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot and _ top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot and kind _ top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot and kind of _ top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot and kind of got - top of the leaderboard with the foxtrot and kind of got branded top of the leaderboard with the - foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom _ foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom girt— foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom girl so— foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom girl so i'm _ foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom girl so i'm doing - foxtrot and kind of got branded the ballroom girl so i'm doing to - ballroom girl so i'm doing to battroom _ ballroom girl so i'm doing to ballroom dances— ballroom girl so i'm doing to ballroom dances and - ballroom girl so i'm doing to ballroom dances and i- ballroom girl so i'm doing to ballroom dances and i will. ballroom girl so i'm doing to| ballroom dances and i will do ballroom girl so i'm doing to - ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot _ ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot and — ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot and dolly _ ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot and dolly parton - ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot and dolly parton for - ballroom dances and i will do the foxtrot and dolly parton for the l foxtrot and dolly parton for the quicksteo _ foxtrot and dolly parton for the auickste -. , ., quickstep. so, in terms of the interpreting. _ quickstep. so, in terms of the interpreting, is _ quickstep. so, in terms of the interpreting, is every - quickstep. so, in terms of the interpreting, is every lyric - quickstep. so, in terms of the l interpreting, is every lyric going to be interpreted as well in sign language as well as all of the commentary and the interaction between the celebrities and professionals? the between the celebrities and professionals?— between the celebrities and professionals? between the celebrities and rofessionals? , ., , , professionals? the priority is the dancin: , professionals? the priority is the dancing, because _ professionals? the priority is the dancing, because that _ professionals? the priority is the dancing, because that is - professionals? the priority is the dancing, because that is what. dancing, because that is what everyone _ dancing, because that is what everyone is there to see, so for this one. — everyone is there to see, so for this one. we _ everyone is there to see, so for this one, we are not looking at interpreting the songs because we want to— interpreting the songs because we want to focus the attention on the action, _ want to focus the attention on the action, trut— want to focus the attention on the action, but we will provide interpreting for the conversation, the judges' comments, any dialogue. can i the judges' comments, any dialogue. can i ask— the judges' comments, any dialogue. can i ask you, you are in on something rather special and everyone says being involved with strictly a special anyway but rose's story which had an impact on so many people and i don't know how much you knew about the deaf community and how much difference it could make. it was quite something to behold, wasn't it? it it was quite something to behold, wasn't it? . , . wasn't it? it was and i feel embarrassed _ wasn't it? it was and i feel embarrassed that - wasn't it? it was and i feel embarrassed that i - wasn't it? it was and i feel embarrassed that i did - wasn't it? it was and i feel embarrassed that i did not wasn't it? it was and i feel - embarrassed that i did not know wasn't it? it was and i feel _ embarrassed that i did not know more and i embarrassed that i did not know more and i feet— embarrassed that i did not know more and i feet iite— embarrassed that i did not know more and i feet like i— embarrassed that i did not know more and i feel like i do— embarrassed that i did not know more and i feel like i do now. _ embarrassed that i did not know more and i feel like i do now. i— embarrassed that i did not know more and i feel like i do now. i tell- embarrassed that i did not know more and i feel like i do now. i tell you - and i feel like i do now. i tell you what _ and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit — and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it— and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it for— and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it for me, _ and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it for me, i— and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it for me, i was - and i feel like i do now. i tell you what hit it for me, i was chatting | what hit it for me, i was chatting with the — what hit it for me, i was chatting with the others _ what hit it for me, i was chatting with the others and _ what hit it for me, i was chatting with the others and she - what hit it for me, i was chatting with the others and she had - what hit it for me, i was chatting | with the others and she had been what hit it for me, i was chatting. with the others and she had been to a pantomime — with the others and she had been to a pantomime over— with the others and she had been to a pantomime over christmas - with the others and she had been to a pantomime over christmas and i with the others and she had been toi a pantomime over christmas and her five-year-old — a pantomime over christmas and her five—year—old daughter— a pantomime over christmas and her five—year—old daughter had - a pantomime over christmas and her five—year—old daughter had turned . a pantomime over christmas and her five—year—old daughter had turned in the audience — five—year—old daughter had turned in the audience and _ five—year—old daughter had turned in the audience and said, _ five—year—old daughter had turned in the audience and said, mummy, - five—year—old daughter had turned inl the audience and said, mummy, what about— the audience and said, mummy, what about if— the audience and said, mummy, what about if rose — the audience and said, mummy, what about if rose came _ the audience and said, mummy, what about if rose came to _ the audience and said, mummy, what about if rose came to the _ the audience and said, mummy, what about if rose came to the theatre, i about if rose came to the theatre, they would — about if rose came to the theatre, they would not— about if rose came to the theatre, they would not know _ about if rose came to the theatre, they would not know what - about if rose came to the theatre, l they would not know what everyone about if rose came to the theatre, i they would not know what everyone is saying _ they would not know what everyone is saying and _ they would not know what everyone is saying and why — they would not know what everyone is saying and why are _ they would not know what everyone is saying and why are they _ they would not know what everyone is saying and why are they not _ saying and why are they not interpreting _ saying and why are they not interpreting here? - saying and why are they not interpreting here? and - saying and why are they not interpreting here? and i- saying and why are they not - interpreting here? and i thought for a five-year-old _ interpreting here? and i thought for a five—year—old to _ interpreting here? and i thought for a five—year—old to say— interpreting here? and i thought for a five—year—old to say that, - interpreting here? and i thought for a five—year—old to say that, then - a five—year—old to say that, then you know — a five—year—old to say that, then you know you _ a five—year—old to say that, then you know you have _ a five—year—old to say that, then you know you have been - a five—year—old to say that, then you know you have been part- a five—year—old to say that, then you know you have been part ofi you know you have been part of something _ you know you have been part of something and _ you know you have been part of something and made _ you know you have been part of something and made a - you know you have been part of. something and made a difference you know you have been part of- something and made a difference and touched _ something and made a difference and touched so— something and made a difference and touched so many— something and made a difference and touched so many lives. _ something and made a difference and touched so many lives.— touched so many lives. marie, of the practicalities. _ touched so many lives. marie, of the practicalities, is _ touched so many lives. marie, of the practicalities, is it _ touched so many lives. marie, of the practicalities, is it practical— touched so many lives. marie, of the practicalities, is it practical for- practicalities, is it practicalfor other venues and other tours to go down the same path? is it expensive? why isn't it done more often? since we've been — why isn't it done more often? since we've been working _ why isn't it done more often? since we've been working with _ why isn't it done more often? since we've been working with the industry. _ we've been working with the industry, when we first started, there _ industry, when we first started, there were _ industry, when we first started, there were maybe three accessible venues _ there were maybe three accessible venues and since we have been working — venues and since we have been working with them the majority are now accessible, but what we need to do is start— now accessible, but what we need to do is start working with the promoters during the planning so the bsl access _ promoters during the planning so the bsl access is deciding before, during — bsl access is deciding before, during the production planning, which _ during the production planning, which means deaf people can buy their tickets at the same time hearing — their tickets at the same time hearing people can, so it needs to be embedded before the ticket sales and that— be embedded before the ticket sales and that is one of the difficult areas — and that is one of the difficult areas. because deafness is invisible, _ areas. because deafness is invisible, not everyone has a hearing _ invisible, not everyone has a hearing aid or cochlear implant, and iam hearing aid or cochlear implant, and iam 50%_ hearing aid or cochlear implant, and i am 50% deaf, and that is not something you would necessarily know something you would necessarily know so what _ something you would necessarily know so what rose has done is because we might— so what rose has done is because we might see _ so what rose has done is because we might see deaf actors on the television, we never really get to know _ television, we never really get to know anything about them so what strictly _ know anything about them so what strictly has done for rose is we have _ strictly has done for rose is we have seen— strictly has done for rose is we have seen her beautiful personality. not only— have seen her beautiful personality. not only is — have seen her beautiful personality. not only is she an incredible dancer, _ not only is she an incredible dancer, but she has this positive, beautiful— dancer, but she has this positive, beautiful energy and has been an incredible — beautiful energy and has been an incredible ambassador for the community and i'm hoping we can open even more _ community and i'm hoping we can open even more doors and we will see bsl at every— even more doors and we will see bsl at every place in the country. marie, — at every place in the country. marie, i_ at every place in the country. marie, i know something you share with rose is to get bsl recognised as an official language. even if it is recognised as an official language, more people need to learn it, don't they? language, more people need to learn it. don't they?— it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a lona it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a long time — it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a long time to _ it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a long time to learn, _ it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a long time to learn, but _ it, don't they? absolutely. it takes a long time to learn, but even - a long time to learn, but even having — a long time to learn, but even having the _ a long time to learn, but even having the basics and having that etiquette. for example, with the entertainment industry, the box office _ entertainment industry, the box office staff, the archers, if they had some — office staff, the archers, if they had some basic sign language, you would _ had some basic sign language, you would go _ had some basic sign language, you would go a — had some basic sign language, you would go a long way and really help to remove _ would go a long way and really help to remove barriers —— the shows. we to remove barriers -- the shows. we will rive to remove barriers —— the shows. will give you a to remove barriers —— the shows. , will give you a last thought. i don't know what experience you have been with the dance troupe, you are going out on tour, so is there a tour bus? what are the practicalities? i tour bus? what are the practicalities?- tour bus? what are the practicalities? tour bus? what are the racticalities? . , tour bus? what are the racticalities? ., , , , practicalities? i am living my best life. we practicalities? i am living my best life- we have _ practicalities? i am living my best life. we have an _ practicalities? i am living my best life. we have an amazing - practicalities? i am living my best life. we have an amazing tour- practicalities? i am living my best| life. we have an amazing tour bus with a _ life. we have an amazing tour bus with a big — life. we have an amazing tour bus with a big kitchen _ life. we have an amazing tour bus with a big kitchen loaded - life. we have an amazing tour bus with a big kitchen loaded up - life. we have an amazing tour bus with a big kitchen loaded up with. with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty— with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of— with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of drink— with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of drink from _ with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of drink from when - with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of drink from when we - with a big kitchen loaded up with plenty of drink from when we go| with a big kitchen loaded up with - plenty of drink from when we go from venue _ plenty of drink from when we go from venue to _ plenty of drink from when we go from venue to venue — plenty of drink from when we go from venue to venue and _ plenty of drink from when we go from venue to venue and just _ plenty of drink from when we go from venue to venue and just being - plenty of drink from when we go from venue to venue and just being able i venue to venue and just being able to hang _ venue to venue and just being able to hang out — venue to venue and just being able to hang out with— venue to venue and just being able to hang out with all— venue to venue and just being able to hang out with all of— venue to venue and just being able to hang out with all of the - venue to venue and just being able to hang out with all of the gang, . to hang out with all of the gang, we've _ to hang out with all of the gang, we've not— to hang out with all of the gang, we've not been— to hang out with all of the gang, we've not been able _ to hang out with all of the gang, we've not been able to - to hang out with all of the gang, we've not been able to do - to hang out with all of the gang, we've not been able to do it- to hang out with all of the gang, . we've not been able to do it during the show— we've not been able to do it during the show and — we've not been able to do it during the show and we _ we've not been able to do it during the show and we were _ we've not been able to do it during the show and we were all- we've not been able to do it during the show and we were all in- we've not been able to do it during the show and we were all in smalli the show and we were all in small bubbles _ the show and we were all in small bubbles or— the show and we were all in small bubbles or a — the show and we were all in small bubbles or a hotel— the show and we were all in small bubbles or a hotel bubble, - the show and we were all in small bubbles or a hotel bubble, so- the show and we were all in small bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in. the show and we were all in small. bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last _ bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last night — bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last night having _ bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last night having a _ bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last night having a few- bubbles or a hotel bubble, so in the bar last night having a few drinks i bar last night having a few drinks with everyone. _ bar last night having a few drinks with everyone, i— bar last night having a few drinks with everyone, i can't _ bar last night having a few drinks with everyone, i can't wait - bar last night having a few drinks with everyone, i can't wait to - bar last night having a few drinks with everyone, i can't wait to doi with everyone, i can't wait to do the with everyone, ican't wait to do the first— with everyone, ican't wait to do the first show— with everyone, i can't wait to do the first show and _ with everyone, i can't wait to do the first show and i'm _ with everyone, i can't wait to do the first show and i'm sure - the first show and i'm sure everybody _ the first show and i'm sure everybody will _ the first show and i'm sure everybody will be - the first show and i'm sure everybody will be out - the first show and i'm sure - everybody will be out celebrating afterwards — everybody will be out celebrating afterwards in _ everybody will be out celebrating afterwards in the _ everybody will be out celebrating afterwards in the hotel— everybody will be out celebrating afterwards in the hotel bar. - everybody will be out celebrating afterwards in the hotel bar. it - afterwards in the hotel bar. it really — afterwards in the hotel bar. it really makes _ afterwards in the hotel bar. it really makes it _ afterwards in the hotel bar. it really makes it a _ afterwards in the hotel bar. it really makes it a more - afterwards in the hotel bar. it i really makes it a more rounded experience _ really makes it a more rounded experience for— really makes it a more rounded experience for everyone. - really makes it a more rounded experience for everyone. haven't you not a experience for everyone. haven't you got a curfew? — experience for everyone. haven't you got a curfew? well, _ experience for everyone. haven't you got a curfew? well, you _ experience for everyone. haven't you got a curfew? well, you know, - experience for everyone. haven't you got a curfew? well, you know, we i got a curfew? well, you know, we don't have — got a curfew? well, you know, we don't have a _ got a curfew? well, you know, we don't have a matinee _ got a curfew? well, you know, we don't have a matinee the - got a curfew? well, you know, we don't have a matinee the next - got a curfew? well, you know, we | don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't— don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be — don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be quite _ don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be quite so— don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be quite so bad. - don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be quite so bad. fire - don't have a matinee the next day, so it won't be quite so bad. are you aaivin me so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a — so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a hint — so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a hint as _ so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a hint as to _ so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a hint as to how- so it won't be quite so bad. are you giving me a hint as to how rowdy i giving me a hint as to how rowdy this party when you get together will be? i this party when you get together will be? . , this party when you get together will be? ., , .,, , this party when you get together will be? ., , , ., , will be? i really hope it is rowdy. but we won't _ will be? i really hope it is rowdy. but we won't risk _ will be? i really hope it is rowdy. but we won't risk it _ will be? i really hope it is rowdy. but we won't risk it during - will be? i really hope it is rowdy. but we won't risk it during the i but we won't risk it during the show — but we won't risk it during the show. ,., ., ., ., ~ but we won't risk it during the show. ., ., ,, ., show. good to talk to you. en'oy the tour, and show. good to talk to you. en'oy the tour. and r — show. good to talk to you. en'oy the tour, and i know* show. good to talk to you. en'oy the tour, and i know you t show. good to talk to you. en'oy the tour, and i know you said _ show. good to talk to you. enjoy the tour, and i know you said you - show. good to talk to you. enjoy the tour, and i know you said you were l tour, and i know you said you were 11 out of ten excited and good luck with that. marie, and thank you, marie who has been interpreting for us. marie, thank you very much. take care. 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