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abortion pill mifepristone. plus what happeneded to when donald trump made his election pitch to america's top ceos as "the 11th hour" gets underway on this thursday night. good evening once again, i'm stephanie ruhle, and we are now 145 days away from the election. this weekend will mark exactly nine years since donald trump came down the escalator and announced he was running for president. and today it became clearer than ever that in those nine years, he has been able to take complete control of what was known as the republican party. trump was on capitol hill today to meet with his allies in congress. it was the first time he's been on the hill since his supporters attacked the capitol to try and overturn the 2020 election. as "the new york times" puts it, trump's visit today was an opportunity for him to flex his dominance over a political and business establishment that has been forced to come to terms with him. here's my colleague with more. >> it was a great meeting. >> reporter: tonight former president trump back on capitol hill for the first time since the january 6th attack by his supporters. >> we agree just about on everything, and if there isn't, we work it out. >> reporter: a congressional pep rally of sorts for the likely gop nominee speaking to lawmakers behind closed doors. >> there's tremendous unity in the republican party. we want to see borders. we want to see strong military. we want to see just success for our country, and we don't have success right now. >> reporter: among the signs of mr. trump's success rallying his party, the attendance of top senate republican mitch mcconnell, who hasn't spoken to the former president in four years. he has sharply criticized mr. trump, calling him practically and morley responsible for what happened on january 6th but has since endorsed him. >> how was it seeing the former president? >> we had a good meeting. >> reporter: also there senator marco rubio. what did it say that even mcconnell was in the room with him? >> we're republicans. at the end of the day we want to win elections. i mean, we're in politics. you know, ultimately, we work with people all the time we don't agree with on something. >> politico reports that trump has already made a big private demand of speaker mike skwonson. he reportedly called the speaker to get his help in doing, guess what, overturning his new york conviction. elsewhere on the hill, trump's ally on the house judiciary committee held a hearing on the manhattan d.a.'s office and trump's conviction. here's what one democrat had to say about his republican colleagues. >> just a show of hands for anyone in the room who hung out with a felon today. hey, guys, probably want to get your hands up if you were hanging out with convicted felon donald trump. i don't think anyone on our side did, but that's why we're here. >> now, while all this was going on, president biden was overseas at the g7 signing a massive security deal to help ukraine in its fight against russia. with that, let's get smart we are the help of our leadoff panel this evening. peter baker joins us. the former white house communications for president obama, and conor lamb of pennsylvania. jennifer, a lot happened, djt returned to washington. >> the actual scene of the crime. it's just that ever since the conviction came in, it's like the house republican leadership has said what can we do to help you, right? what can we do to enable this -- to enable this man who is now a convicted felon to go ahead and capture the republican nomination, to be the president of the united states, let's invite you to come to congress. let's make -- there's reporting about if he has to be remote or something for the convention because he might be in prison. like you know, we don't know where he was going to be because the sentencing is on july 11th. but at every turn, let me take whatever step the speaker can take to overturn the conviction. it's what can we do to enable your rise to power. back at jan 6th, just as speaker johnson helped to try to overturn the election on jan 6th back at the capitol. >> connor, you experienced the january 6th attack firsthand. what was it like for you to see donald trump return to the capitol and be welcomed by former colleagues of yours who were running for their lives that day? >> i just think it must be so humiliating for them deep down. i mean, obviously, they would never admit it, but you know, for the republicans who were there who were in a sense victims of his crimes as well as his accomplice, some people are probably both, you know, they let him show up and just demonstrate such total control of them and their agenda to the extent they have one. you know, when you're a house member, you're up close and personal with your constituents pretty much every weekend if you're doing your job. and i just think it would be so humiliating for them to look average, ordinary people in the face who were horrified by january 6th and who work hard at their job every day without committing crimes or treating people the way that trump does and try to pretend you're anything like a representative. that's not how they're acting. >> peter, for me today when i saw him there, i was thinking back immediately after january 6th, when you saw the likes of lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell with their aggressive statements, basically at that moment trying to wash their hands, their party of donald trump now standing right up there next to him. have we ever seen a single person have such total control of one of our political parties as donald trump has over the gop? >> no, i don't think so. not in modern times. i don't think reagan had control over the republican party in the same way or bill clinton or barack obama. i don't think there's any president that i can think of who, you know, dominated their party to the point that there was no dissent allowed, that anybody who stood up against them or disagreed with them on anything were essentially cast out of the party, right? anybody that donald trump doesn't like is called a rino, in other words a republican in name only, not loyal to him, therefore not loyal to the party. and in some ways, not loyal to him, not loyal to the country, because a lot of times he frames it that way, that he represents, in fact, the country and anybody who stands up to him is somehow treasonous. he said that about mark milley, the former chairman of joint chiefs, not a partisan figure. but he said at one point just a few months ago that mark milley may deserve execution because he wasn't loyal enough to him. and you're right that there's no modern parallel in our historical records to compare it to. and i think it's -- and it's remarkable that here we are eight years later and it is powerful a force within that party as it was back then, even in some ways more powerful. >> donald trump reportedly, jennifer, has been pushing mike johnson to help get his conviction overturned in new york. meanwhile, today president biden made it clear, he said it last week, he wouldn't pardon his son hunter, and now he said he would not commute his sentence. >> yeah. >> how clear is the contrast between these two men when it comes to the rule of law and justice? >> a big reason why president biden is trailing in the polls is because if you don't pay attention to the news, you're not backing biden, right? so biden does really well with people who pay attention to the news. that means his biggest problem is breaking through. i think this story line, you know, it's tragic for the biden family, but i think it's really broken through. and the timing could not be more perfect in terms of a contrast. donald trump is convicted one week, two weeks later the president's own son is convicted for, you know, the 10% of americans who are still undecided that are paying attention to the world and they hear that the president's -- that the justice department prosecuted the president's son and convicted him of a crime that he could possibly go to jail for a long time -- >> which fox news and donald trump were begging for, where's hunter -- >> right, where's hunter. >> -- tattooed across their chests. >> it's a big deal, it really undercuts the argument this is rigged on the other side. both things can't be true. and the president, i point pardon my son, i will not commute his sentence, how hard that is. it's coming through that biden's just a decent guy and a nice and a great father. and you know, jill flies back and forth to europe to be with hunter in the courtroom. and biden goes down to wilmington to make sure that we all see him hug his son so that america doesn't know there's any shame here. he's really proud of his son and his recovery. and so it's a -- it's a really important distinction in terms of obeying the land, standing by the rule of law. it undermines trump's best argument that this thing is rigged. it really undermines that this case is rigged. and then you also see that biden is a decent guy. and it's such a big story, it's the kind of thing that is permeating everything. you do see it on tiktok and on social media, so that most of america is aware of this. >> connor, according to "the washington post", during today's meeting, donald trump called the justice department, and i quote, dirty, no-good the party of law and order, they're okay with that? dirty, no-good >> yeah, they are, because they believe the lies that he's been telling them, right? that's what january 6th was all about is that when trump uses his enormous mega phone to tell conspiracy theories and other lies to these people, they believe it. and they act on it. he's been saying that about the justice department now for years so that no one will believe it if he really does get convicted of these serious federal crimes that he's yet to be tried on. and all for what, by the way? he's in the news this week for one thing, and it's not a jobs program, it's not anything to improve the criminal justice system or do anything good for america, it's to cut the corporate tax rate by one additional percent. there has to come a point where that's not worth it, toeven the people who care about that kind of thing. >> to be clear, when he cut it to 21%, we heard from ceos like jamie diamond saying i'll take the tax cut, it's more than we were even asking for. last time around i think they wanted 30% or maybe 28%, and mwah, trump gave them 21% to make sure they stayed in his corner. peter, sources are telling nbc news that the rnc is now preparing for the possibility of a convention without donald trump there because he might not be able to attend depending on his sentence or he just might not choose to show up. you have covered these conventions, what in the world would that be like, and what does it say that republicans even have to make these plans? >> well, look, you know, donald trump, at least according to punch bowl news, told the congressman today that milwaukee, the site of his own republican national convention, is a horrible city. so maybe he doesn't want to go because it's a terrible place. that's not usually what a potential nominee says about the city that's about to nominate him. usually you're trying to appeal to the people in the state you've chosen for a convention. wisconsin's a pretty important battleground state, so if he were not to show, obviously, it wouldn't further the effort to win this battleground state over in the fall, but it's possible he might not go. you can't tell with him. everything is always up in the air. you know, i think that it's likely the sentence he gets, whatever it is, will probably be suspended pending appeal. it's not likely he's going to be behind bars or anything like that. some discussion, i guess, of home detention in mar-a-lago, but i think because the appeal, that's not likely. he'll be able to come if he wants to. we'll see if for some reason they think he might not come. that tells you a lot, i think, about what their thinking is about wisconsin and where it's going in the fall. >> the city of milwaukee has become donald trump's new s-hole country. >> so right. >> the mayor had a pretty clever response to the former president. watch this. >> donald trump wants to talk about things that he thinks are horrible, all of us lived through his presidency, so right back at you, buddy. i'd say that. look, obviously, donald trump is wrong about something yet again. i find it kind of perplexing. i find it kind of strange that he would insult the largest city in wisconsin because he's running for president. he obviously wants to win wisconsin, win the election. and so to insult the state that's hosting your convention i think is kind of bizarre, actually. it's kind of unhinged in a way. >> clearly this was a screw up, even fox news tonight was trying to clean it up, saying how much trump likes milwaukee. >> what is the cleanup? just like, yeah. >> you think this could hurt him? >> wisconsin matters a lot. wisconsin is not -- it's one of the states that's not trending his way. it's one of the three -- you know, the three of the formerly, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, so it is a problem for him. milwaukee has a -- he's trying to appeal to black voters. milwaukee has a high black population. in that context to say it's a terrible -- it's a horrible place, that's a pretty damning thing to say. and if he doesn't go -- i mean, i can see him choosing to not go to the convention, maybe just hang out at mar-a-lago, make people come down there. you know, do this in some kind of different -- >> southern florida in july, wonderful. >> yeah, right? but do it a different way and not -- he doesn't like to have to leave the comfort zone ewhere he's not really welcome or wanted. >> where it's literally a swamp in july. the man who wants to drain the swamp, come on down to it. >> come on down, everybody. i can see that. >> connor, i just want to list a few of the things that donald trump didn't do in the last month or the last week, he did today. okay, we just walk through it. he bashed the largest and most popular city in a must-win swing state, and he wasn't done there. he then suggested moving from our current tax system to an all-tariffs system. that would be his way to raise revenue, which is completely bananas. and where did he do it? on capitol hill, ground zero for the insurrection, where he is considering pardoning every january 6th rioter. none of these actions are what a person seriously running for president would do, can you explain this from a political strategy standpoint? >> well, i mean, i think he looks at political strategy very differently than you do and then that most of us do. he's trying to demonstrate his power. i always think with him that he says the most ridiculous things he can think of, and he would choose to do it in a setting like capitol hill because then he gets to watch all of these people who know better pretend like, you know, he's speaking the truth or it's not that bad or he really didn't mean what he said. you see jd vance behind him in some of those pictures so close that he probably could literally lick his boots if he wanted to. it's just a demonstration of power, i think, and ultimately, i think he believes that's what is going to get him elected, that people think he exudes power and strength, and this is all a way of showing that. i think the american people are better than that and they'll see through it again, but that's clearly what he believes. >> well, there's a great deal of power and strength in italy right now. the g7 meeting going on. peter, president biden on that global stage making an agreement, a ten-year defense agreement with ukraine, how big of a deal is it? >> well, look, this is the american effort to try to get around the fact that ukraine would like to join nato, and the biden administration doesn't think that's appropriate right now in the middle of a war. so because we're not going to give them nato membership, what the president's trying to give them instead is, you know a promise. a promise that we're with you. that the united states is with you. we'll continue to help defend you, and it will last beyond the next couple year, even if he's not in office. now, the trick is, it's not a treaty. it's not going to be ratified by the senate. and because of that, the next president could come along and, you know, throw it out the window if he wanted to. we saw that time and time again when donald trump took over last time. he threw out the iran nuclear accord and the paris climate accord. so there is obviously very important symbolism in this, very important agreement in the sense of demonstrating american resolve, at least under the current administration, but it still all comes down to november. the russians know this. vladimir putin knows this. he's watching. he understands our politics. he understands if he can wait this out until november and see a different president in there, a president who has been nothing but friendly toward him, that is donald trump, the chance that he could still win this war, a war that he has not, in fact, won up until now. everything is on the line for ukraine when it comes to this november election as well. >> all right, peter, connor, jen, thank you all so much. when we return, the supreme court sidesteps another abortion bombshell as republicans again vote to block a bill that would have protected reproductive rights. we're going to get into it all. and later, former president trump tries to expand support with corporate america, but is big business ready to hop back on the trump train? 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>> i was not surprised, the supreme court forecast the decision. it seemed clear that a healthy majority was not going to tolerate the shenanigans that the lower courts engaged in with this case. this was always a ludicrous theory. they do not prescribe mifepristone, the abortion pill. they claim that they are worried one day they will have to treat a patient who was prescribed mifepristone by someone else and that they oppose ever having to treat someone who has complications because of an abortion, but the supreme court said unanimously, look, guys, you don't have a right to get into federal court unless you have an injury a real, concrete injury that's guaranteed to happen. and you just can't show one here. so i think the court did a good job narrowing what could have been a very big issue. >> okay, but they've narrowed it, but what about when someone can come up next and fit through that hole, right? they didn't have a standing, but could others with a standing bring this case right back to the supreme court? >> yeah, so justice kavanaugh says, look, we're not saying that nobody has standing to bring a suit against mifepristone, we're just saying that these plaintiffs don't have standing. he absolutely left the door open, and i think one possible plaintiff in the future could be a woman who takes mifepristone. now, this is a very safe drug. it's safer than tylenol, safer than viagra, but every drug sometimes has complications, and you can imagine a woman who takes mifepristone, has some kind of complications, goes to the er, perhaps she ends up in litigation against the drug seeking to block the fda's approval of it and roll back access across the nation. it could happen. this case does not foreclose that possibility. all the court said was that this really kind of sham of a case, not a legitimate controversy, it had no business in federal court. >> all right, anthea, let's talk politics, morality, and religion, a triple threat. despite saying that they're supportive of ivf, senate republicans blocked a bill designed to protect access to it. how did ivf become a partisan issue? >> ivf is a partisan issue because it's all of a piece of reproductive rights for women. and so republicans and evangelicals are looking for any space that they can to continue to chip away at women's reproductive rights. while we don't have roe, again, in all of these state, ivf is another space for that. and it puts forward the idea about how they think of the embryo. i think this is really important to say. they want to talk about an embryo when the sperm meets the egg and this is the moment that life begins. and so if they're rolling back to even ivf, then what's going to happen next? they're going to come for your birth control. you can't do this, can't do, that can't have ivf. really and truly, one of the things that's interesting to me is that they're starting to look more like catholics every day, and that's very interesting to me. >> i want to talk about that, because the southern baptist church, their resolution opposing ivf, what does that signal to you? >> i mean, it signals to me that they're trying to really make a very hard shift to the right, first of all. and so when you see this happen with southern baptists, there goes the rest of the evangelicals. so has the first thing. the second thing i would say is that they see this as, oh, we already won abortion, so let us go one step further. and so you have to think about not just what the southern baptists vote on but what organizations like the alliance for defending freedom do. you've got southern baptists who are part of that legal system. and so all of these people are working together for a piece, even the person who did project 2025 is thinking about ivf as a way to get rid of this particular thing. so i think we need to be really careful and start to connect the dots with all of these religious groups and with republicans, because they are work hand in hand. >> mark, there's another big abrgs decision expected soon. it involves emergency room care. tell us what we need to know. >> yeah, this is a case that asks whether federal law protects women who go to the er in need of emergency abortions and protects the doctors who feel they need to provide those abortions. the biden administration argues that this law creates this baseline of care, requires stabilizing treatment for any patient. the biden administration says, look, sometimes an abortion is necessary to stabilize a patient, but a number of states, including idaho and texas, only permit emergency abortions when a patient is actively dying. so the patient has to experience something like sepsis or hemorrhage or has to be bleeding out before she can legally get an abortion. right now we have patients who are being airlifted out of idaho to neighboring states because they need abortions and can't get them. the supreme court will decide which side of this dispute is correct, and i think today's decision was really a prelude for what could be a much bigger ruling that could have, i think a devastating impact on whatever remains of abortion access. the biden administration doesn't have many teals at its disposal in this fight. it has seized upon this one to say, look, surely we can all agree if a woman's health is failing, if she has these cascading catastrophes of health, the hospital should be able to terminate, but a number of red states are saying no, and i think that the supreme court is likely to side with the states over the biden administration on this. there were some tea leaves in today's decision that suggested that. i think the states are going to be left to their own devices and continue to force women to wait until they're on the brink of death until they can terminate. >> there's one group of people who have a lot of tools at theydition 30 sal, voters. anthea, "the washington post" has extensive new reporting on what religious conservatives want out of trump in a second term, what's their goal? >> i mean, their goal is basically, one, always a theocracy, two, always to make sure that they are the protected class and that everyone else is the nonprotected class. so i think what they want this time around is they have the judges, they have the court, what they want is a continuation of the same kind of policies that have been done, first of all. second they want to make sure they have religious freedom. third, they also want to make sure that just like trump, that they can go after the people they want to go after, and so the kinds of things that you're seeing now with transgender laws, you know, we don't want people to -- who are transgender to participate in sports. the kind of book bans that we see. the continuation of abortion to be controlled by the states. and that roll back. i think that all of these things are going to be the things that they want in this next cycle if trump wins. and that is very problematic for many people, but especially for women. >> anthea, thank you for being here. mark, always good to see you as well. when we return, promises of big, big tax cuts as trump tries to woo corporate america. but are they going to buy his terrible tariff talk? 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>> it was a pitch to 80 ceos today, and the idea was that, you know, trump said if he's elected there's going to be a 20% corporate tax rate drop from the 21% federal rate. he's talking about slashing the income tax. he's talking about broad strokes, not many details on this part, which is really key, cutting back on business regulations. he did not go into too many detail, and that's important in terms of what he did not say. but that was really the key from him. and it was a stark contrast kind of to what you just mentioned before with what jeff, the chief of staff to president biden, said to the crowd there as well. >> we'll get to him in a second, and let's be clear, even when trump did the big tax cut when he was president and knocked it down to 21%, ceos weren't even locking for that. they only said let's get 28%, and of course, the sweet sound of deregulation is what they all want to hear, but my question is we heard pushback from folks saying ceos shouldn't attend the meeting, donald trump is a convicted felon, but come on. >> he might be president. >> he might be president. no one in that room is publicly endorsing him, and the brt hosts the nominees, they have for decades. >> yeah, i -- i think it's unfair to criticize a group of businessmen who know potentially where their bread might be buttered. i don't want to be that crude about it, but look, if he is going to be president of the united states, they're going to have to interact with him for another four years. so it is in their best interest to attend, whether or not they agree with it, whether or not they want that one percentage point reduction in the tax rate, which they could get with an additional deduction somewhere else, it's not hard to do. >> but they are expiring in the next few years. >> they are, but if extended, they will cost $4.9 trillion after the trump administration added $7 trillion to the national debt in a four-year period. >> i'm pretty sure republicans used to care about the deficit. >> they used to. >> let's talk about jeff, the chief of staff. he comes from the business community. the president could not be there because he's at the g7. we know that as the days pass, president trump will -- former president trump, will likely try to spin this. i'm the guy they met with, they're there backing me, that wasn't the case, what did he tell them? >> as someone familiar with what he said, it was more forward looking. it was talking about the idea if there's another four years of joe biden, you won't see what trump has teed up if he's president. no mass deportations. you're not going to have this strict trade war trump is saying will happen if he becomes president. again, much for forward, much more kind of a positive remarks to these ceos in contrast with trump which is, well basically, the four years of me you're going to have again. this was all those years ago. so again, it really is fascinating to see how these two people presented themselves to these ceos. and you know, if you're jeff, you have to be thinking you don't necessarily need their money, but it's not bad to have these ceos in your corner going forward. >> and you'd like to have their money and massive influence they have. i know corporate america is not a monolith. the idea of deregulation is delicious. but why don't we hear from more business leaders talking about how strong the economy has been, how good it's been under president biden? i mean, look at how the stock market's performing for goodness sake. >> it's not just the stock market, the economy's fine, inflation is coming down, household net worth has exed the all-time high. for all the concerns about deregulation, we produce more oil than any other country on earth, 13.5 million barrels per day. more natural gas than any country on earth. you have bank that is are soundly regulated that are doing quite well in this environment. i don't know what the argument is for further deregulation would be. >> they just think lina khan is a thorn in their side and don't want to hear from her. >> talking about preventing mergers from taking place, it's such a small part of the economy m&a, if you will, put it in business terms. look, you can talk about deregulating the oil industry and letting methane flare into the atmosphere, which is something president trump did and president biden rolled back. most of them were not that good for the environment and weren't that great for the economy. >> bingo. people always say like, oh, we want a strong economy or you're going to care about the environment. they are intertwined. trump might give them a tax cut, but he pitched another idea today that was bananas, okay? cnbc is reporting he floated the idea of eliminating, eliminating, u.s. income tax and replacing it with tariffs on imports. can we just start with talking how this would even work. >> first of all, it would launch a global trade war, because you get retaliatory tariffs from every other country on the planet. could have been someone who was a former trade representative in prior administrations, but look, we import $3.8 trillion worth of goods. we take in $2.5 trillion in revenue from individual income taxes. so do the math. you'd have to basically almost put 100% tariffs on all imported goods coming to the united states, which would exacerbate inflation, launch a global trade war, possibly spark a recession or worse. >> it's not going to happen. let's just say what it is. it could happen, but the likelihood of this being enacted, even if he does become president seems so farfetched. >> also it's a dumb idea. >> it gets to a point -- >> well, there's that. >> you can debate, that's kind of where i'm going with this, you can debate the merits another day, but the point is any rational economic advisor, i don't think they're going to say, hey, let's roll with this plan. i don't care where they're coming from. >> it's a two-pronged problem. number one, the president has unilateral authority for all intents and purposes for tariffs, he does not have the authority to alter the income tax. >> but it's also a bad idea. i don't want to let you go until i ask you about this, tesla shareholders today approved elon musk's $56 billion pay package and the company's move to texas. here's my question, does this move basically make elon musk's purchase of twitter free? does it pay -- is that what it is? oh my god, why did he buy twitter, it cost so much money. it just paid for itself, did it not? >> it did. dan i've, a noted technology analyst on wall street said elon musk is tesla and tesla is elon musk. for shareholders to contemplate a future without him would be difficult no matter how you feel about the pay package. >> $56 billion. stop saying that twitter cost so much money. tesla shareholders just covered it. gentlemen, thank you both so much. when we return, we've talked a lot about project 2025 on this show, and our next guest is leading the charge to fight the far right road map for a possible second trump term. congressman jared huffman is joining us when "the 11th hour" continues. ing us when "the 11th hour continues. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. i'm trevor and i lost 132 pounds on golo. at 26 years old my doctor wanted to put me on medication and i wasn't having that. i tried other diets and they just didn't work didn't last. release worked fast. after a week i had more energy, mental clarity, and my cravings were gone. i've lost 132 pounds and i will never, ever, gain that weight back. thanks to golo. democrats are sounding the alarm about project 2025. that is the 900 page manifesto from trump's closest allies. it offers a road map for exactly what he could do if he wins in november. our next guest has called it the most alarming existential threat our country has seen in a century. and now he is launching an effort to fight back. i want to welcome democratic congressman jared huffman of california, he's the founder of the new democratic task force hoping to combat project 2025. congressman, i am so happy you are here to discuss this, because we talk about project 2025 all the time on this show. it is alarming to put it lightly. what made you take it on? >> well, thank you for that, stephanie, and it's great to be with you. i got a briefing a few weeks back, and you know, i thought i knew a thing or two about these grouches behind project 2025, about the general thrust of this manifesto, but the briefing, frankly, was jaw dropping for me. and my jaw doesn't drop easily. i determined right there that we needed to have a strong, unified voice among democrats in congress. i didn't see anything happening toward that end, and so i created this task force, and i will tell you, i've got colleagues coming out of the woodwork to be part of it. we have a great group of members of congress. >> any republicans in it? >> no, you're probably not surprised to hear that. >> what exactly can the task force do? >> well, first thing we can do is make sure that people understand what is in this 900-page plus manifesto. and it can be a little bit overwhelming, so we need to make it digestible. we need to bring in subject matter experts, have a bunch of briefings where we call upon these experts to explain it to us, and then we need to have a forward facing hearing-type format where members of congress explain this to the american people so they know what it is, and they know it should be taken very seriously. >> so the task force is really an education tool, first to educate your colleagues on capitol hill and then the public? is that what i'm hearing? >> both. absolutely. we need the public to know, because i think if the public understands this, if they understand what's at stake, they're going to want no part of it p we need them to know that, obviously, before november. >> your jaw dropped a few weeks ago when you were briefed. is project 2025 a hot topic on the hill? to you think your colleagues know enough about it? >> i think they have heard enough about it to be very interested. so i have enthusiastic participation on this task force from folks throughout the democratic caucus and a bunch of rank and file members who have heard about this and want to be part of it. i really couldn't have imagined such an amazing response. >> you warn that if congress only reacts to project 2025 if and when it's rolled out, it's too late. but here's the thing, beyond the ability to educate, what kind of teeth does this task force have? what can you do? right, if trump wins and goes to roll this thing out, it is what it is. >> well, to some extent, but it starts with being ready so you're not caught flat footed. you know, i think the scenario of a trump presidency to me is unthinkable. i think joe biden is going to win. but in addition to educating people about this terrible agenda, this task force will help us prepare for that terrible scenario if it does unfold. and we don't have time. you know, the first trump presidency, as you know, was pretty haphazard. they didn't expect to win. they didn't really know what to do for a long time when they got there. this project 2025 is all about them not repeating that mistake. so they're promising to move within 180 days of donald trump taking the oath and democrats in congress had better be ready for that. >> even privately, do you think there are any republicans colleagues of yours -- i'm sure you work with them every day, i'm sure you have some that are friends -- are any of them alarmed by this? or do you think they're going to all get behind it? i mean, it's not too far a bridge to say many elements of this are draconian. >> the ones who would work with us and get behind this are leaving the congress, stephanie, to be very honest. today was bring your felon to work day in washington, and all of the republicans, even the ones we think of as moderate and sensible, were closing ranks and fawning over donald trump. >> bring your felon to work day. this is life in 2024. congressman, thank you so much for joining us tonight. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and for you at home, do not turn this tv off, don't walk away, don't get a drink, don't go to the bathroom. i need you to stay, because when we come back, a military veteran spills his lifelong secret in his obituary. you do not want to miss this bittersweet story as we mark pride month when "the 11th hour" continues. e month when "the 11th hour" continues. only purple's gel flex grid passes the raw egg test. no other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed right now! save up to $400. visit purple.com or a store near you. the last thing before we go tonight, resting in peace. colonel edward thomas ryan of albany, new york, recently passed away at the age of 85. he was a decorated army veteran with a lifelong secret. he asked the following be included in his obituary. i must tell you one more thing. i was gay all my life. through grade school, through high school, through college, through life. i was in a loving and caring relationship with paul of north greenbush. he was the love of my life. we had 25 great years together. paul died in 1994 from a medical procedure gone wrong. i will be buried next to paul. i'm sorry for not having the courage to come out as gay. i was afraid of being ostracized by family, friends, and coworkers. seeing how people like me were treated, i just could not do it. now that my secret is known, i will forever rest in peace. it is one last act of bravery for colonel ryan. and that takes us off the air tonight. on that solemn note, i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. see you at the end of tomorrow tonight, on all in. a hero's welcome on capitol hill for the architect of the insurrection. >> we are unified behind his candidacy. >> a lot of support. >>

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