>> brian: friday, june 21st, this is "fox & friends." we start with a horrific story. two venezuelan migrants charged with killing 12-year-old texas girl as we learned they were released into the u.s. after crossing illegally. >> ainsley: and this as ice confirms rachel morin's alleged killer was a got away in 2023. we're going to hear from her sister. >> lawrence: just unbelievable. plus, remember the anti-israeli campus chaos at columbia university? well, apparently the d.a., alvin bragg went after donald trump is dropping all of the charges against those students. >> steve: it's going to drive you crazy. and young kids being exposed to videos on social media. how one state is stepping up to protect our children. so we have got a busy friday tgif. thank goodness it's fox. "fox & friends" for a friday starts right now. ♪ and we start with in this morning. another tragic consequence of immigration laws. >> brian: two venezuelans nationals who crossed the border illegally charged with the killing of a 12-year-old. >> ainsley: doug luzader has the details for us. >> jocelyn new england gri's body found a creek in houston. she had been strangled to death. police are charging these two migrants from venezuela with capital murder. one crossed the border i will alley in april and the other in may that one according to did. hs sources released after he claimed that he feared for his life if he was sent back to his home country. investigators used a surveillance video track the suspect's movements before and after the murder. nungaray's mother hearing the gentlemen in surveillance video have been found and caught and taken into questioning. it was like the greatest news to hear this morning. new england gather's tragic death high profile time inga was encountered by u.s. border patrol june 25th, 2021, near eagle pass, texas, after unlawfully entering the united states without inspection, admission, or parole by an immigration official. on that same date, usvp issued inga a notice to appear and released him on his own recognize. the "new the new york reportings ordered removed by immigration judge but that deportation never took place. charged with the rape and murder of maryland mother of five rachel morin. hernandez crossed illegally in 2023 after allegedly murdering a young woman in his native el salvador where he has ties to criminal gangs. according to ice the 23-year-old actually crossed into the u.s. three times. entering january 20203 from new mexico and then texas before trying again in february of 2023. all before apparently entering a fourth time undetected. he was, as they say, a known got away. back to you guys. >> it's just tragic. doug luzader in washington. thank you very much. >> ainsley: isn't that interesting? he came over january 19th, 12 days later january 31st came back again after he was kicked back to mexico. february 6th came back again less than a week. >> steve: revolving door. >> brian: how many times you say no to say if you even try again you will be prevented. why was he allowed to try the second time. he should have been detained. steve. >> lawrence: apparently two suspects in houston, one of them under suspicion of the border patrol and they put a tracker on for 21 days. i mean. >> steve: and then they took it off. >> lawrence: then they took it off. >> steve: the other guy still had it on apparently. >> lawrence: if the border patrol was concerned about someone, this guy lied that he was in fear for his life that something was going to happen. >> brian: that's always what they say when they get there. >> lawrence: they know exactly what to say. of course they are making this type of stuff up. if border patrol is concerned about someone coming across and they only have so much legal authority to do something, don't you think we should be monitoring these people? don't you think we should put them, fast track them through the immigration court? if you want to give them. >> brian: a judge right there. >> lawrence: let them go to the court and let the judge decide immediately process and get it over with. >> brian: millions backed up. we are so backed up right now it's bobble to get through the docket. that's the whole things. they want to put pseudo judges with that bipartisan bill that was forwarded. the pseudo judges will decide right away. as senator lankford said the problem would be discretion. the discretion of the border patrol by the administration in power that might have been good enough for this administration, for the next one it won't be. >> ainsley: this is continuously happening. this is friday. this week we have been talking about a 13-year-old little girl in queens who was raped. we have been talking about this morning a 12 little gerald abducted strangled and killed. 12 years old in texas. and we have been talking about rachel morin who is the mother of five who was found naked and beaten and raped. she was on a jog. that's all this week, y'all that, we have been talking about. and i was reading, excuse me, steve, one more thing. the got-aways 194,000, almost 200,000 known got-aways since october 1st. under joe biden almost 2 million got-aways. 1.8. i looked at how many people live in phoenix 1.6. more got aways that we know about 1.8, larger than the city of phoenix. >> steve: when you hear that number from bill melugin or griff. you know, and there are hundreds of thousands of got-aways each and every year. we haven't heard from them. one of the got-aways is one of the people who murdered somebody. that's one of the people we are talking about. and what all of these cases and i know there are a lot of different cases, a lot of different parts to the city i was thinking about it this morning. >> ainsley: people they killed are supposed to be in the country -- allegedly killed i should say. >> steve: election year this we minds me and i'm sure a lot of people watching in 2015 the case of kate steinle. >> lawrence: exactly right. >> steve: kate steinle walking on the pier in san francisco and this migrant, who had been ordered out of the country i think four, five, six times, something like that got ahold of a gun and accidently shot her dead and it became an issue before the 2016 election. and donald trump, you know, he pointed that out because san francisco, sanctuary city. we are all in sanctuary cities. now, you know, how many dead people do we have to see before somebody says, you know what? that was a dumb idea. >> lawrence: signature issue. brian, i was watching msnbc the other day and you got rachel -- i'm sorry, you got joy reid who puts this up banner up of all the three networks, it has cnn and us and other two networks are covering biden's signing ceremony of, you know, giving daca and giving granting amnesty to thousands of illegallies. and it has us covering what's happening with the illegals. and they are making fun of us for covering what's become one of the top issues in the country is how americans feel about illegals. and people who have been killed and they are law firming about it on national tv. >> brian: now the majority of the country doesn't want to be in a sanctuary city. when joe biden walked into office. he stopped the lawsuit that trump put forward to sue these cities to say what you are doing is unconstitutional. that's allowing illegals to live amongst you, preventing ice from picking them up or even interacting with local police. >> ainsley: we saw patty morin the mother of rachel morin has to pick up the pieces for her family. has to help raise her five grandchildren because the mother was killed. she was the one was that found on the trail. >> steve: she has been planning a funeral. >> ainsley: she talked to sean earlier in the week. we played soundbites throughout the week for you. she talked to donald trump on the phone and she said i'm deeply touched by president trump's kindness and concern because he called her. he was generally and truly wanted to know how our family is coping. he asked about rachel and showed honest compassion for her untimely death. his words brought comfort to me during this very difficult time. and i think she was on -- was she on laura ingraham asked her have you heard from this administration in the biden administration? she said no. mayorkas was on tv and called her daughter an individual. >> brian: did not know her name. >> lawrence: what is up with them not knowing the names of the victims? any time something is politically motivated on their side and they can say civil rights or social distancing they know the names and say say your name. i'm not saying you shouldn't say their names. >> steve: right. >> lawrence: whether you have americans killed by illegals you should be able to say their name. >> ainsley: under your policy. >> steve: it becomes a number. when you put a name. >> you see images like we showed with hundreds of thousands of got-aways. some of them have murdered americans. when you put names to the numbers, it just has a certain potency that just a number doesn't have. >> brian: numbers are terrible, too. just lastly, just in case you think president trump is anti-immigrant. is he putting forward a movement that if you graduate from college here from another country, can you get a green card to stay. is he not anti-immigrant. is he anti-illegal immigrant, which is setting up systems. it's a huge difference. coming up a little bit later to more humanize this story, rachel moren's sister erin will be joining us on this show. >> steve: meanwhile, speaking of college. >> lawrence: manhattan district attorney alvin bragg you remember him from the trump cases is now dropping the charges for nearly all of the pro-palestinian protesters who were arrested after taking over an academic building at columbia university back in april. >> brian: so you are allowed to do this now? so far at least 30 will off the hook while the others have to appear in court next month. >> steve: chanley painter joins us now. we you a so much on tv. as the d.a. says we don't have any evidence. >> funny how that works out. like brian said at least 30 of the 46 cases against the campus protesters were dismissed. those columbia students and staff members were arrested and charged with misdemeanor trespass on april 30th when anti-israel demonstrators took over that academic building on columbia university's campus barricading themselves inside for hours before police with riot helmets cleared the damaged building, making dozens of arrests. the occupation was a significant escalation and weeks long demonstrations and encampment at the university protesting the war in gaza. but now prosecutors claim they don't have enough evidence to support the charges or to show any property was damaged or that anyone was hurt. even noting how protesters wore masks and covered surveillance cameras during the incident. in a statement, the d.a.'s office says it is continuing to pursue cases from both campuses, including all assaults against police officers. there are ongoing school disciplinary proceedings for the students who had their cases dismissed. columbia university guys declined to comment on the dropped cases. send it back to you. >> steve: chanley, thank you very much. so they say lack of evidence, no security video and stuff like that to tie the student. >> brian: really? i saw some video. >> steve: apparently inside the building, because a lot of them were wearing masks. >> ainsley: how about the janitor. >> steve: this has absolutely infuriated the new york city police department who went in there and raided that place. if you were a student or somebody else in that building, when the cops came in, after you had been ordered out, you were trespassing, it's that easy. >> lawrence: steve, it wasn't just trespassing, they held two members of the janitorial staff hostage for a few minutes. they wouldn't let them out of the building. and then they finally let them go and part of the, you know, according to my sources in the police department, they did video taped all of this because they knew that the d.a. was going to try to pull some of this. so they tired their own videographers and taped it all and still they dropped it. >> brian: remember they got uber eats. people's credit cards used. way to follow up on this. eyewitnesses. the problem is, too. back to the masks. masks that they wear, pretending that the pandemic is still happening but they are embarrassed about their behavior so they want to hide their identity. that makes it a little bit more difficult. if i even get five of them and put them in jail for a year or six months. that will be enough for these clowns. those people that protested october 7th saying hitler was right. let him finish the job. that's hate speech. you put those people in jail for three months. you send them to refresh my recollection that will be a message that will calm things down. >> ainsley: i like donald trump's message of just common sense. what is happening to this city? when the bodega worker who defends himself as is he being robbed is initially charged with murder. and goes to refresh my recollection. >> lawrence: daniel perry? >> ainsley: daniel perry,. >> lawrence: penny, i'm sorry. >> ainsley: and then the illegals are behind bars for a second. come out, flip out the cameras after they beat up cops? i mean so backwards. >> steve: the schools are private property. so the schools, remember, in the beginning the schools were taking the lead saying you know what? >> lawrence: they didn't want the cops there. >> steve: we're going to go ahead and let them protest and it got out of hand. so many people on campus at the time of the arrest were not actually students. it turns out a lot of people who are not students will have their cases thrown out on certain conditions. so, even though they shouldn't have been there in the first place. if they keep their noses clean for, i think six months or something like that. they are going to throw out all the charges. the big question is. of the students who were suspended during the unrest. will this go on their permanent record or will the schools simply say, you know what in the cops dropped the charges we are going to make sure you have a clean record. >> ainsley: if i had to guess. >> brian: let's take a look at what it was like then. and see if you would have expunged their record and would have decided not to charge. >> the most remarkable scene that i saw was someone smashing the windows of the doorway hamilton hall with a hammer. almost like a scene from the shining. i also saw a student trying to prevent them from continuing to barricade the doors. and then he was essentially corralled by another human chain of pro-palestinian protesters basically lifted up and should out and called a zionist. he was physically assaulted. >> people are climbs through the windows from the street. people that are presumably not affiliates, climbing into the windows of a dormitory building, actually. it's sanjay dorm. they. columbia has completely lost control of its gates. >> lawrence: want to know in the deputy d.a. identified these students because they are students. did you ask them for their footage or what they saw. old fashioned d.a. unbelievable. >> brian: as long as we get the cfo of trump organization allen wisenburg the city is safe. >> steve: was he wearing snask the problem with this and cops are furious because they have body cam video that shows what was going on. okay. everybody gets the get out of free jail free card. what is this going to do? this is going to allow them to stretch out the envelope. what's to stop them next time? >> brian: a person there covering every step of the way with her show and our show carley shimkus. >> carley: more news to get to here starting with this. $25,000 reward is now being offered for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the murder of retired chicago police officer and bomb technician larry newman. he was shot multiple times yesterday, just steps from his home. according to abc 7. the shooting may have happened during a robbery attempt. oh, boy. the fbi raiding the home of oakland, california mayor channing tao as she faces a recall effort over the city's rage in crime. agents were seen carrying boxes from her house. the bureau has not released any details what they were there for. and unclear what was actually taken. comes after community organize claiming she isn't doing enough to fight crime. it is sentencing day for ryan watson. he was in oklahoma. is he one of five americans arrested in turks and caicos. all five suspects watson and his wife told us what happened. >> i had zero idea that those bullets were in there. >> keep praying because that's all we can do. we are in a waiting phase right now. it's been kind of difficult. >> carley: ryan maintains he did not know the bullets were in his bag. today sentencing comes days after lawmakers on the island removed the mandatory minimum sentence of 12 years for firearm offenses which is great news for him. >> carley: a father uses his cpr skills to save his 2-year-old daughter's life after she nearly drowned in a backyard pool in north carolina over memorial day weekend. his quick actions were caught on home surveillance camera. watch this. >> i turned around and i saw my 2 and a half-year-old daughter floating. and i jumped in right here. i was going to try to express the air by beating her on the back. when i, did she did release the air and she started to cry. if you are buy a pool, you need to know how to give mouth-to-mouth. >> carley: great advice there thankfully that little girl has made a full recovery. help workers put more money in their wallets getting a warm reception. >> tell your waiters and waitresses and anybody else getting tips because there are a lot of people get tips. we are not going to tax tips. the government under biden just passed new regulations to really go after these people and they are at a level like nobody has ever seen. it's going to end immediately. >> carley: new fox news polling shows trump's proposal to exempt tips from workers income taxes is supported by a majority of voter. that support highly impacted bipartisan politics. democrats disprove of the proposal by 10 pointed when trump name is mentioned approve by 40 points when his name is not mentioned. and those are your headlines, guys. interesting how that happens. >> lawrence: this is classic what's wrong with the country. i will pay more money in taxes and tips as long as trump's name is associated. when you remove his name okay maybe it's good for me. >> carley: thank you, guys. >> steve: show you how potent this is yesterday in the u.s. senate ted cruz introduced the no tax on tips act. i wonder where he got that idea. >> brian: great force works, and great for nevada, a lot of hospitality out there. also, i think it's important that it shows something for the working class. you keep saying these tax cuts for the rich, corporations, really did you think about that? by the way joe are you against taxing tips? fine. number two we need legislation. what democrat is against that? you could offer that right away. >> lawrence: ask him that in the debate, ainsley. would you support this? you can put a bill out there and make this a law right now. >> ainsley: great idea for the service industry because they don't make the enough money. when you do get your tips at the end of the night you have to count them up and go to the computer when you are clocking out and enter your tips. not everyone in the restaurant where i worked were honest about it. some would put $5. >> brian: what are their names? let's go after them. >> ainsley: like 20 years. i don't remember. >> brian: i went zero a lot. really? i didn't i'm going to write zero. say i'm a really bad server. >> steve: chris, what's the statute of limitations on tax evasion with tips? >> brian: we have to ask keith. chris is off today. >> steve: i'm calling chris harris. >> brian: i thought you meant chris choula. >> will 10 years ago. >> ainsley: people say you got to put in something because you don't want -- if you keep putting in zero they are going to know you are not telling the truth. >> brian: my manager from ben gantz wrote me the other day now you tell me? which he still watches. that's dennis prescott by the way. >> steve: hello dennis. >> ainsley: hello dennis, good morning. >> steve: today food service with the mclemore boys they are smoking barbecue on fox square because it's a friday in the summer. hey, guys. >> steve, fox family, thank you all. we are back in new york again. >> we actually just came from boise idaho. we did the concert last week. week four boisey idaho. barbecue for 200 people. we do it beak back for week five. dad, open up that right here. good old boy chicken thighs from georgia. shout out to sam at the timers. this is his recipe out of gather and grill cookbook. got to get yours we smoked and seared these on the master built digital charcoal auto ignite just came out in the last year. super pumped to be cooking with everybody. >> we go from horseshoe bend idaho near boise. cooking with our friends. motocross this week. cooking for 150 folks that were out there. it gets even more fun when we come back and cook for our "fox & friends" all-american concert. >> requesting to be amazing. we have the mount olive munchies we are serving out to the crowd. we got the good old boy chicken thighs and the barbecue. we will see you at 7:00. food coming in, baby. let's go. >> steve: are those chicken thighs on a pitch fork? >> yes. >> steve: that's crazy. >> if you are coming back from the farm. you need to cook your chicken thighs on a pitch fork. >> ainsley: make sure you clean it? >> we did, ainsley. 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>> not until we get a new administration. obviously, biden's first day in office was to remove every executive order trump had put in place to secure our border. and he stopped the building of the wall. i mean, as far as i'm concerned the biden administration has the blood of rachel morin on their hands. >> lawrence: erin, how does it make you feel and your family feel because y'all haven't heard a peep from the administration. and the secretary of homeland security can't even say your sids sister's name. she is just some person. she doesn't have a name. >> it's very, very, very sad. president trump called the family. i didn't speak to him personally. i heard the call was amazing. it was a good half hour. he was really heart felt and sincere and that we're very aappreciative of. to hear her name mentioned in his rallies, you know, if rachel's story can help make a change to change people's hearts to want to secure our border and keep our country safe, owe think she would be honored by that. and, you know, just pray that, you know, that this crime stops. and the only way you can really get a handle on it is to vet these people who are coming in. and like trump said. we're not against gaxz, sex, human trafficking: i know people close to me who died of fentanyl overdoses. that's an issue, too. there is just so much in this did has to come to a stop. >> lawrence: i would prefer to say your sister's name rachel than the suspect. we did some digging. he was wanted for homicide in el salvador. then, only then, after he murdered your sister was he charged with rape and murder and then he has ties to a gang. >> it's sickening this could have all been prevented. and how many more like this it's not against the first story and last until we said until we put something in place to secure our border i know with the capture this has only reopened the wound. you are a close family. how are you all taking this day by day? >> we were like really excited to hear that he was captured. it was just outpour of release of tears and. you know, he is not out there anymore. we do have a name. there is going to be justice. so that's good. but it does reopen a lot of wounds. you know, my concern is, you know, rachel's children. her five kids. so, you know, i'm trying to be strong for them. and speak out for them and give them the voice and be their for them any way i can. the hardest thing throughout this whole time going with rachel's two youngest children with-to-rachel's grave site on mother's day. that was heart breaking no child should to visit their mother's grave site on mother's day. >> lawrence: take your time. we are all trying to thereby with each other and doing the best we can, you know. it's been a tough 10 months. >> lawrence: i have been so impressed with your family, erin, the class and the dignity that you have all held her memory up while still demanding for justice as well. erin, thank you so much for getting up this story and keep remembering your sister. >> thank you. >> lawrence: thank you so much. >> thank you. >> lawrence: we'll be right back. 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no. but it could bring the potential for some heavy rain in some of these areas. so he wool continue to keep you up to date. here is the bottom line, the small area of low pressure moving inland. gradual development as it moves to the north and west. and, of course, we will keep you up to date on all of the above. all right, ainsley over to you. >> ainsley: thank you so much, janice. >> you got it. >> president biden's lead among women now at the weakest of any democrat candidate in 20 years. support among black female voters falling 30 points while his lead among hispanic women is just 12%. here to react is florida mom quisha king and big data analytics and market expert willie gil valetta. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> why do you think this is in quisha, why is he losing support among black women? >> because, you know, women, we're primarily the shoppers, the ones who go out and buy the groceries and consume, go out and get you will the things for our home and we see it first hand. we notice it instantly when the peanut butter and jelly has gone up because we buy these things regularly. we notice when, you know, gas is going up. and the response we get from the biden administration, biden himself, karine jean-pierre, kamala harris, everything is fine. you know, when we women and moms and we're seeing the border crisis, we are seeing the foreign relation stories. we are seeing everything literally everything fall apart around us. and they are telling us everything is fine. and so he is losing support because they are lying to our faces. when when we know what our routines are we know when that has significantly changed. >> ainsley: wily, how about the hispanic women. >> one thing women know larger. two to three kids. that inflation impact we were just hearing about. when food inflation has risen a whopping 25% or more since 2020, you we will go it in your pocket. so i think beyond politics, beyond permanent, it's going to be about the pockets of american families. but you put on top of that, ainsley, the fact that individual incomes and wages are declines the inflation is outpacing the ability for people to just live and for women to be able to provide for their families. we are the chief procurement officers of the household. so you see it firsthand. and this is making a big difference. in addition to crime and safety and also the fact that the economics affect us as women and entrepreneurs, too. a lot of people don't know, hispanic and black women outpace also the creation of new businesses. and all of that is compounding the opinion and sentiment that you are seeing in the polls. >> ainsley: quisha, i don't know if you heard that last interview. rachel was interviewing rachel morin's sister. when you hear her story and going to sister's grave with her children because of illegal immigrant. hear migrants abducting and strangling and killing a little girl in texas or 13-year-old girl raped allegedly by illegal immigrant in queens. what goes through your mind. do you think that effects the female voter? >> absolutely. there was a familiar that had moved in to my neighborhood, and all of us were like gathering around like, okay, who are these people? what's goings on? and we have, you know, as robust that we can have in florida of the immigration policies that try to keep our neighborhood safe. and so we see it personally we hear about it on the news. yes, we are very concerned in so many aspects of what is going on in our lives. it's effecting everyone. ains haines really quickly. we are runs out of time hispanic individuals that are here now the moms and dads that did it the right way what are your thoughts. >> i am myself an imgrant had to wait 10 years to become a citizen after going to college in the united states not have way to stay legally until many bureaucracy and paperwork. yeah, dhols of us who have worked really hard to be here to build businesses have had to see that firsthand and we just want immigration fixed. and, yes, the border needs to be secured as well. >> lili and quisha thank you for coming on. >> you are welcome. >> ainsley: do you know in to fox next week for fox news democracy 2024 special conch of the cnn debate simulcast. our conch begins thursday june 27th at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. 46 minutes after the top of the hour. putting social media on notice. 13-year-olds are being exposed to explicit videos on social media. how one state is stepping up to protect our children. that's next. ♪ we deliver them this way. this way uses technology and goes the extra mile to do things the right way. the delivering promises on time, every time, way. 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>> i mean, i say talk to any parents and ask them to tell you what their kids are being exposed to. and it's not pretty. yes, this was an artificial experiment. that's what computer scientists do. we experiment. but i think it represently indicates a lot of people's lived experiences of social media. >> steve: so, as the parents and grant parents looking, in would your advice be don't let your kids do the instagram reels if they are under a certain age? >> absolutely. i don't let my kids use social media. i think it's really telling that most of the people who work for these platforms don't let their kids use social media. >> steve: agreed. >> i think for older kids, maybe maybe only with supervision. that's the best advice can i give. >> steve: read all about it in the "wall street journal." laura from northeastern university. laura, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> steve: you bet. all right. straight ahead. she is country music's breakout star alana springsteen is going to join us live before she takes the stage for the all-american summer concert series. ♪ i learned a lot of things that i didn't wan so t to ♪ here is to all my mountain climbing tina at a cabin. or tree climbing tina at a beach resort. nice! booking.com booking.yeah. ♪ hey! i'll give you $574 if you switch. for gerald? 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