minister benjamin netanyahu said that there is currently no deal to release them. netanyahu updated israelis during a news briefing in tel aviv a week ago. a week ago, netanyahu told nbc news there could be a possible deal with hamas in the works. >> but earlier today, thousands of israelis marched into jerusalem, demanding their government do more to release the hostages being held in gaza. also today, in tel aviv, in a separate protest, israelis demanded a cease-fire and long term solutions to secure peace in the region. netanyahu maintains a temporary cease-fire -- we'll come after hamas releases the hostages. in this video, we can see right there, in gaza city today, shows people leaving al-shifa hospital, the director of gaza's hospital system claimed israeli army ordered people to leave, but the israeli army denies they forced people out. only a few doctors stayed behind to treat patients or too sick to leave. the hamas control government said that 12,000 people have died in gaza since the start of the war. meanwhile, president biden is laying out what he calls basic principles to reach peace in the region. he writes in t washington post, toart, gaza must never again be used as a platform for terroris there must be no forceable displacement for palestinians from gaza. no occupation, no siege. or blockade, and no reduction in territory. and after this war is over, the voices of palestinian people and their aspirations must be at the center of post crisis governance in gaza. and d.c. news correspondent jay kicks off our coverage in tel aviv. >> thousands joined the families at the end of the march here in tel aviv to jerusalem, demanding that there be some type of deal to release the more than 200 being held hostage in gaza. tonight, benjamin netanyahu said negotiations are continuing, but to this point, there's been no acceptable offer from hamas to make some type of deal. all of that, while the idf is expanding its footprint on the ground in gaza, moving more to the east and to the south. we know that much of the fighting now, some of the dense urban areas, we have seen airstrikes to the south, and that's something they say is going to continue. what the idf has said repeatedly over the last 24 hours is that a lot of the missile launches are coming from the south of gaza, so they're going to find those positions and eliminate them according to those on the ground, who were working there. we also know that they have really put out an urgent call for civilians to exit the area near khan younis. they said that that area is one that they have been working on over the last 24 hours, there have been airstrikes there, there's a lot of fighting in that area, so they're urging people to move to the south. but as they move to the south, we should also point out that as their movement continues that way, they're urging civilians on the ground to, quote, stay out of harm's way. that's the latest from here in tel aviv. paula, back to you. >> thank you so much. and joining me now is aaron david miller, a former middle east analyst for the u.s. state department. he's now a senior fellow at the carnegie institute for national peace. i want to start with president biden's op-eds. at do you make of those words? i think more than anything, what a lot of people are trying to understand is the unique role that the united states can play in this moment. how do you analyze the united states? >> the president is up against really formidable odds. first of all, you have a huma reached catastrophic proportions. have the population -- 1 million people are displaced, you've got -- and gaza city, where the israelis are now operating, used to be the home of 1.1 million palestinians, it may have a quarter of the population right now. israeli military campaign is going to continue, and my take away from the op-ed, the administration is trying to create a balanced frame here, i think the president genuinely does feel and is responding to the horror of what is happening to ordinary humans, who have no relationship to hamas whatsoever. but the take away from that op-ed, is that he is going to continue to give the government of israel the time, space, and the support it needs to destroy hamas as a military organization, and i suspect try to end in sovereignty, in gaza. that frame, which he created october 10th and powerfully emotional speech, in the wake of the hamas terror surge, i don't think it's changed. so right now, he is not really pressing the israeli -- nor is he criticizing their military attacks. >> but what he is calling for sale is a two state solution. he's still very clearly calling for that. of course, we know that can't happen overnight. what are the different steps at this point that need to happen before that's even a viable option? >> if you strip it all away, the reality is what you need in order to create the right environment for negotiation, and leading to a conflict solution, the least bad option is to states, is leaders. you need a palestinian leader, and an israeli leader, who are masters of their politics, not prisoners of their ideologies. you need leaders who are prepared, not because of external pressure, but because it's in the best interests of their people and their children, and the children's children. to create a better pathway for israelis and palestinians. i'm telling you, you look around, those leaders or not there. i participated in most of the negotiations between israelis and palestinians, particularly at camp david, 23 years ago. this past july. the gaps are huge. but in order to have therder toe remotest possibility of working this through, you really need leaders. president biden needs partners. without those partners, it will be extremely difficult for him to make much headway. >> i think one of the reasons why the president felt compelled to write this op-ed is because of the backlash he's received from own members of his administration. we know more than 500 political appointees signed a letter protesting president biden's israel policies. what was your reaction to that? >> i had 25 years at the department of state. we went through many crises during those 25 years, but never have i seen this sort of internal reaction. not just from the department of state, from congress, staffers, and even from the white house. it's as if the administration is, sort of, mediating its own israeli palestinian conflict. i think the blood is up. people are in their corners. there is a certain incomprehensibility in the wake of the catastrophic humanitarian situation in gaza. and i think that's what's motivating so many people. they want a tougher response from the biden administration, one that's much more balanced, and they want, clearly, a cease-fire. which everybody would want. however, that cease-fire needs to be tethered to release of hostages, at a, minimum. a temporary pause and it won't address the underlying problem. >> aaron, before we go, very quickly, what is the one piece of advice you could give president biden right now, given the amount of years you spent at the state department. >> the president said, there is no return to status quo after october 6th. that's a huge commitment. mister president, if you can undertake this, you have really got to stay with it. middle east peace-making is not for the faint hearted. no one's going to plant a tree in your honor if you succeed, but it's worth the effort and you really ought to take it on. >> aaron david miller, thank you so much. really appreciate it. another big development, a colorado judge ruling donald trump, and i quote, engaged in insurrection. but, even though i just said, that they rejected a bid to remove trump from the 2024 ballot. the judge decided, the 14th amendment doesn't apply to trump because the wording does not specifically mention the president. the nonprofit behind a lawsuit to remove trump from colorado's ballot plans to appeal, and in michigan another bid to block trump from running is heading to the state supreme court. with me now is chris mattei, former federal prosecutor and partner at the koskoff law firm in connecticut. thank you so much, chris, for being with us tonight. i want to first get your reaction from the colorado judge. what is the first thing that went on in your mind? >> the most stunning revelation from the courts. over 100 page ruling. it concluded that trump engaged in insurrection against the united states. the court went through a lengthy analysis as to what the founders meant when they described insurrection and concluded that trump had engaged in the force or threat of force to interfere with the execution of the laws. so to see a judge conclude that a former president of the united states did, that is stunning. it's also true that the judge concluded that even though president trump had engaged in insurrection, the 14th amendment of the united states, according to this judge is reading, does not apply to former presidents of the united states. the text of the 14th amendment essentially says, anyone who's been caged insurrection against the united states, or his previous to take an oath to support the constitution of the united states, might no longer hold public office. here the court concluded that the president is not among the officers that amendment applies to. also the courts said, it's mindful that were it to rule otherwise, it would result in the disqualification of a candidate for president of the united states. the court essentially invited an appellate court to review the decision to decide whether or not the 14th amendment could stop donald trump from being a candidate for president. >> that's what's interesting. perhaps donald trump is smiling today, but you have people like a scholar laurence tribe. tribe said the colorado judge actually handed down a defeat for trump. take a listen to what he said. >> she threw him a lifeline, it was so thin, so threadbare, so likely to fall apart. that although he could claim victory, no appellate court could uphold putting him on the ballot on the basis. >> so where do you see this case going? >> it seems right. the judge essentially construed the 14th amendment, which prevents somebody who has engaged in insurrection, who's previously been an officer of the united states, from holding office again. she concluded that the presidency is not an office of the united states. so i agree with professor tribe, that seems to be a bit of a tortured reading that, if it is true, that he engaged in insurrection, an appellate courts gonna have a hard time overturn that factual finding. it seems that president trump, under the 14th amendment, is not eligible to be a candidate. the appellate court could have the same quandry as the trial judge, are we going to prevent a leading candidate for president of the united states from being on the ballot? if the constitution requires it, that's what they have to do. >> speaking of the insurrection, there is so much here. but of course, trump also asked to remove references from the capital riot from his federal election interference indictment -- why did trump try to censor his own -- what's the strategy there? >> look. i think trump is very concerned he's going to be tried in the district of before a jury who witnessed the events of january 6th. firsthand. and so it's really not surprising he's going to try and limit his involvement in this offense anyway he can. but jack smith's indictment makes clear that although trump is not charged with inciting insurrection in the united states, he is alleged to have been a cause of the violence on january 6th, which is the same finding that the colorado judge we were just mentioning made. so, it seems to be a, kind of, futile effort to try to disconnect himself from the events of january 6th, but it appears that's what he's trying to do. >> chris mattei, thank you so much. really appreciate it. next, the potential breakthrough in the fight against fentanyl. president biden and chinese president xi, coming to an agreement this week to address the crisis. this and my reporting of what working with china on this is vital. plus, advertisers flee x after its owne elon musk endorsed and antisemitic tweet. musk also threatening to squash the group, media matters. their president joins us ahead. but first, richard lui with the other big stories of tonight. >> good evening, paola. former first lady rosalynn carter entered hospice care. the family made the announcement friday, saying she and former president jimmy carter are spending time with each other and their family at home. president carter has been in hospice care since february. taylor swift canceled her concert in rio de janeiro tonight due to extreme heat after a fan died at last night's show there. swift saying the safety of her fans, performers, and crew come first. a 23-year-old fan died of cardiac arrest in 100-degree heat, friday. fans complained about a lack of available water. and spacex had an unmanned test launch of a rocket this morning, with mixed results. the company saying lift off and separation was successful. before it lost contact about ten minutes into the flight. spacex says, the craft likely self-detonated. they're working to determine why. more american voices after this break. somedays, i cover up because of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to clearer skin with skyrizi - this is my moment. there's nothing on my skin and that means everything! ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time. ask your doctor about skyrizi, the #1 dermatologist-prescribed biologic in psoriasis. learn how abbvie could help you save. it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. oh... stuffed up again? 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how does fentanyl enter the united states? >> it's been hard to understand because it shifted overtime. several years ago, when all this first started in the mid 2010s, fentanyl was initially come directly from china through the mail to the united states. as china has gotten more tougher over the years, more pressure from the united states, we have seen that flow shift to mexico with precursor chemicals supplied by china with mexican cartels using those to make fentanyl in clandestine labs and smuggle it across the border. we are increasingly seeing precursor chemicals from other countries as well, including india. so the landscape shifts and it's going to be interesting to see where the cartels making the fentanyl continue to get their supply. >> very quickly, keegan, why is it so easy to smuggle these drugs in the border? i've been at that border so many times. you have as well. we've been with border patrol agents. why is it logistically so easy? >> fentanyl, the appeal of it is it's so powerful. it's more concentrated, more powerful than morphine or heroin. and so, you don't need as much to get as much volume to smuggle, essentially. when you are smuggling it through the port of entry, it's hidden in a large vehicle like a trailer truck or something like that, the amount of fentanyl you can smuggle in one go could supply a pretty large customer base. that's part of the challenge with fentanyl, specifically. >> if you look at the numbers there, they're pretty horrific. right? there is over 73,000 americans that have died from fentanyl overdose, just last year. of course, we know, most of the fentanyl is being produced in mexico, it's been produced and china. but if you look at both of these countries, they don't have the same problem. so what does that tell you, based on your own reporting about the crisis that we're facing specifically in the u. s.? >> there is a supply and demand crisis. the supply comes from china and mexico, but the demand is uniquely american. these drugs wouldn't come here if people aren't consuming them and paying dollars to acquire them. there is a lot of talk about tightening up the border, cooperating with china and mexico internationally. those are important in their own right. but at the end of the day, as long as american consumers are consuming fentanyl, it's going to find a way to get into the country. >> what does a time to address that demand? i think you're right, i think the heart of it is americans are asking for it. right? there is a crisis that starts with us. what will it take to address that demand? >> it's a rethinking of a lot of the ways we looked at drug addiction. i think there have been some efforts in american cities at harm reduction, but they could go farther to saving lives, especially the increased availability of opioid reversal drugs like naloxone that can reverse the drugs and could literally save a life. also, looking at some of the underlying causes that drive people to use drugs. i think other countries around the world, europe for example, look at the health care system there and i think that goes hand in hand with the demand for drugs in this country. >> keegan, there is a recent new york times article that highlights the fact that more americans are increasingly using multiple illegal substances at once. i think, one doctor said, it's no longer an opioid epidemic. this is an addiction crisis. can you talk to us and really explain why it's become so dangerous for users? >> i think that's been true since the beginning of the opioid crisis. talking about opioid addiction for years, starting with prescription pills and then heroin, now fentanyl. but throughout all of that there is been a poly drug crisis. that includes methamphetamine, which is the drug we saw the cartel making you talked about in this clip with you, you saw it firsthand. that's a huge problem, still, in the united states. also pharmaceutical drugs -- all of those combine to cause overdoses. so, government tends to focus on one problem and fentanyl has been the headline getter for a while now. but taking a step back and thinking more holistically, this is not just fentanyl, opioid addiction. this is a drug addiction problem. and trying to address some of the root causes of why people use drugs could be the long term solution. >> keegan, i wanted to talk to you because you have been reporting on this for many years. you have embedded with the cartels. you've understood the problem and the pain. i want to ask you, is there anything that has surprised you at all from all of these years, reporting on the ground? >> i think what surprises me is that the rhetoric of the evil cartels, pumping poison into the country, doesn't often square with my experience on the ground in mexico. and i don't know if that's the same for you, but oftentimes these are people just trying to make a living in an incredibly poor areas. and i think they're kind of aware of the consequences in the united states of what's going on, but for them it's purely an economic decision and when you talk to governments, i've had interactions, not recently, but in the past with the government of china asking about their role in the crisis. they say, we are doing what we can but this is an american demand problem. i think americans look outward to blame the cartels or chinese government, but they need to do some self-reflection about what's causing the problem. >> definitely a need to look inward. l. a. times criminal justice editor, keegan hamilton, thank you so much for joining me. i really appreciate it. coming up, elon musk is threatening to sue a media watchdog for reporting on his antisemitic endorsement that caused advertisers to flee his social media platform. i talk with media matters leader angelo carusone next. plus, how new yorkers are helping migrants this holiday season, one slice at a time. >> elon musk's social media platform x is losing some of its biggest advertisers. ibm, apple, lionsgate, disney, warner bros. discovery, paramount, and nbc universal are all stopping appearing on the platform. we should mention, of course, nbc universal's parent company of msnbc. this comes days after musk amplified an antisemitic trope on the platform. musk replied to a thread perpetuating the great replacement theory with, you have said the actual truth. the appetizers exit this also comes after media methods and investigation reveals ads from these companies being placed alongside antisemitic and white supremacist content on the platform. elon musk is threatening legal action, blaming the media matters report, that one you just saw, and saying they rigged the platform to show ads can appear next to objectionable content. musk tweeting, quote, the split second court opens on monday x corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against media matters and all those who colluded in this fortunate attack on our company. media matters president and ceo angelo carusone joins me tonight. angelo, this is your first interview since musk threatened to take legal action against you. i must say, against your company, thank god. what is your response to this? >> i think that the thing to keep in mind is it's not really clear what his course of action is. i think, the most reported thing is -- he confirmed that our reporting was accurate. everything he said, he said everything in the report did exist on the platform. that's our core argument. the platform is so saturated with extremism, with white genocide, with antisemitism, racism, conspiracy theories. things that should otherwise be managed in some way, that they can't actually protect the few brands still willing to remain on the platform. this has been an ongoing thing for the past few months. this is the latest in a string of these instances. the most important thing, though, he confirmed we are right. >> were you surprised at all to see the reaction from some of these companies? were you expecting all of these pretty big advertising companies to follow through from what you said? >> i think the thing that was significant is it was his own conduct. because that lens gave advertisers to analyze what's taking place on the platform. i wasn't surprised one or two advertisers pulled through ads, maybe those who are small or buyers. that's been happening since august. we have been putting out similar approach like this for the past few months. a couple of advertisers pullover ads, and that's a day story. it wasn't a huge, big thing. but, as you pointed out and your opponent, he had just embraced, he embraced and promoted antisemitic trope, the idea of white genocide. he said, actual truth. you've said the actual truth. he was validating it. if you're one of his big advertisers, you are looking at the string of problems and looking at elon musk's own conduct, you're saying there is simply no way for the platform to ever cure the issues we're dealing with here because the rot goes all the way to the top. and the ultimate decision maker here isn't going to protect our brands from his content, because he doesn't see a problem with it in the first place. >> let's talk about what he doesn't see. let's talk about the danger of those words. i'm going to read you from the atlantic. they say, it wasn't the first time musk echoed antisemitic conspiracy theories from his social media bubble. and it wasn't the first time he blamed antisemitism on jewish actions, pinning the prejudice on its victims. angelo, can you, again, reinforce the danger that these words carry? >> i think the thing that was most disturbing, when the original deal was being put on the table, was that musk had sort of reflected back out his own journey of what he even described as red pill, the process by which you increasingly adopt these sort of world views. and he had said, there needed to be a mechanism by which we actually red pilled more people. that was around the same time he was beginning to buy twitter. the intention there was not just to -- he says it's always about protecting free speech. that a distraction. that's not what it's about at all. none of this conduct suggests that's what his ownership and execution of x really is. it's about taking these ideas and leveraging the power of a social media app to help evangelise and spread them. when he lets more of these individuals back on the platform, the attention there, or the effect, regardless of the intention, i don't know, but the effect, and he knows what the effect is, is to get more of that content on the platform to the algorithm can promote it and recommend it to potentially like-minded individuals. to help spread it. to help the idea metastasize. so the harm is taking something typically on the fringes and otherwise disconnected--we've always had the terrible thing in our country, the horrible bit. that is part of america. we have it here. it's the bad part of it. what we haven't had until recently is tools like social media that can supercharge it. that can connect all these other was discovered individuals and actually help turn those ideas into power. at the ballot box and on the streets. that's what the real harm is. it does seem he's executing his original intention, which is to kind of turn twitter into x, a supercharged engine of radicalization. >> i do want to remind you, angelo, you know already, last year you said on twitter, that under musk, twitter would become a supercharged engine of radicalization. and i want to end it there. because obviously a year ago, you predicted some of the things we're starting to see already. thank you for joining me, we appreciate it. next, ahead of the holidays, new yorkers are coming together as many undocumented immigrants celebrate their first thanksgiving in america. and later, erasing the stigma. the new msnbc film, periodical, signs light on menstruation and menopause with honesty and humor. i'll talk to the director. >> an effort to pay it forward as the thanksgiving holiday approaches. today, a nonprofit group in new york city promoted its annual pie day to celebrate the meaning of the holiday. this year, migrant families helped bake the pies and deliver them to different homeless groups. nbc's george solis was there. take a look. >> it's a sweet assignment, even sweeter when you realize what is happening in this room. this is robert wagner middle school, where migrant families spent the day making pies for other migrant families. more than 500 pies will be distributed among the community here. the real beauty of this event, some of the families you see here have never had thanksgiving before. never had a pie before. really what this holiday is about. strangers coming together, in front of a table, breaking bread and doing something kind. and so thankful for things they did not have before. some of the trials and tribulations this families have been through, the things they've experienced, or how to share. but they say, being here in the united states, trying to seek a better life not for themselves but for their children means so much. this event has been put on for the last 11 years. the organizer says they'll continue striving to help these families, to provide legal services for people, from end to end. this event, this year, as it did last year, specifically cater to help migrant communities, as we've seen such an influx of these families coming into new york city specifically. i want to share quickly a story of a 17 year old girl from afghanistan who experienced her first pie day, her first thanksgiving. listen to what she said about what does that mean to her. >> i'm really thankful to god because i was the luckiest person. i'm an afghan woman. a who has the opportunity to come to new york and follow my dreams. i know this opportunity cannot be given to everyone. and i've seen what that looks like to be in that situation there -- but for me, right now, i have more opportunities. >> about 120,000 migrants have arrived in new york city over the last year. about 60,000 remain in shelters. and project rousseau will continue to strive to help these families, like the teenager there who wants to go to college and seek a better future for herself. she also wants to go back to afghanistan, one day, and help our country. really exemplify what this holiday is all about. paola? >> really beautiful. thank you to george solis. next, a question posed in the new movie, periodical. what if men got their periods? i talked to the film director about how the film fits into our current political conversation. >> periods... hmm. >> i [bleep] hate having my period. when i was growing up, we did not speak about it. >> i've never had the period talk with my mom and my dad. >> i think women's bodies are political, so i think a period is part of that. >> it's part of life. we have suppressed it, made it seem shameful. >> that word hysteria comes from the word hystera, which is greek for uterus. >> basically anything that happened with your period, made you crazy. >> how incredible. that, what you just watched, is from the trailer for the msnbc film, periodical. a new documentary looking to end the stigma surrounding menstruation and menopause. the film takes viewers through the grueling journey from the first period to the very last, and it aims to normalize the conversation around menstruation and reproductive health. joining me now to discuss is the director of periodical, lina lyte plioplyte. if i messed up your name, as someone who has a lot of problems, i apologize. >> that's okay, you did eight out of ten. >> thank you, that's what i thought. i don't think i've ever openly talked about periods on tv. this is the first time i'm openly saying period, menstruation, menopause. is that part of the problem? >> yes. i was actually wondering, what can we not say on tv? can we say period sex on tv? >> you can. >> you can! okay! so it's good for you. >> i ask you this, is that why you thought it was important to break the stigma? >> yes. because, when i looked into menstruation and what an interesting monthly event it is, it goes for half of the world's population, it turns out that not only all major world religions seem it dirty for some reason, but also we are really, really not supposed to talk about it. why? what's so perhaps dangerous that we must not talk about it? so it was a very curious why for me, which gave birth to this documentary. >> one of the things we see in the trailer is this idea that our periods are political. and that's so true. our periods, it's at the heart of the discussion around reproductive justice, paid leave, the tax, tampons, which a lot of people don't know about. but you also say, menstruation is a bipartisan issue. so explain that to us. >> we not only say it, we prove it in the film. because the michigan case of tampon tax, in which we follow the young activists who go to michigan to abolish this tax, it was actually republicans who joined democrats and then took over for this bill to be removed. which is massive. so we're starting to find a conversation in which both republicans and democrats understand there is a conversation that we need to have, that we haven't had before, bipartisanly, about bodies that bleed. and we like to say in the film, chiefly but not exclusively, woman bleed. so it's also a human rights issue, not just a women's rights issuel. >> one of the beautiful things about this film is you normalize the idea of educating young people. openly talking about sex, not being afraid to use some of the words. let's hear a clip. >> sex ed is not mentally here in america. schools are not teaching us about periods, even though it's clear they have student who menstruate. for us who have periods, with our programming, we are filling in that gap. we're actually going into institutions and challenging them to really be allies for their students. >> does anybody here know exactly what a period is or menstruation is? who knows what a period is or what menstruation is? okay. who has a period? oh, okay. so some people who have a period don't know exactly what it is. >> how incredible. almost no one raises their hand when you asked them to explain what is a period. what did you learn about the best ways to reach young people? >> first and foremost, what chelsea is doing in the clip, it's a revolutionary event. because she is teaching teenagers, especially female teenagers, those with uteri, that there is a such thing as ovulation. if you know, when you all feel, like you are more likely to know when you can get pregnant. if you know when you can get pregnant, you might prevent it better rather than when you don't know when your ovulation happens. so believe or not, this becomes a revolutionary body empowerment event, just to know when you're ovulating, not only when you're menstruating. that's massive. we start talking about the cycle as a whole. it's not just a few-day event that happens once a month, we're actually on our cycle for 35, 40 years of our lives. and we are surfing a wave, if you will. estrogen peaks, ovulation, party time. we feel amazing, skins glowing, memories not the sharpest, communication skills to the nine. and the egg falls out, estrogen levels start peaking down. we have pms. we take a hot bath moment, with some sweet potato pie or something. and then we have menstruation, when we don't want to deal with anybody because we are in pain, or uncomfortable. or some of us run marathons on menstruation. >> we began this conversation by asking folks, what if men had their period. i'll ask you, what if men have a period? what is your conclusion? >> you would surely have menstrual supplies freely, everywhere. and as gloria steinem says in our film, in her amazing essay from 1976, or something, if men could menstruate, men would give each other a high five from how mands bled through that day. we are not there yet. >> did you learn anything new about yourself as you are researching this topic? >> so much. so much. i started living with my cycle, not ignoring my cycle. and that really changes lives. and that's what i'm really advocating for. it's tracking your cycle and maybe using a menstrual cup if you haven't tried before. because it's really fun to observe your menstrual blood and be like, well, that's a lot of blood. it's very liquid-y today, or it's very brown today. and to understand your body better. simply to become more educated about your body. and surfing your hormonal wave, literally. literally living with your follicular phase, with your ovulation. listening to your pms, which is unheard of. you can listen to what cranky lady inside of you is telling you when you're pms-ing. exactly? exactly! and ideating on your menstruation. literally, writing a diary. listening to your body, meditating, because it's easier to meditate when you are menstruating instead of when you're ovulating. crazy! >> thank you so much for making this film, for educating all of us. everyone needs to watch this. you can see periodical at ten pm tomorrow on msnbc and streaming on peacock. more american voices after this. >> that's it for today. thank you so much for spending time with us. i mean for alicia menendez, american voices is back tomorrow at six pm eastern. but for now, i handed over to ayman mohyeldin. >> hey paola. great to see you as always. good evening to you, and welcome to ayman tonight. breaking developments in the gag orders on donald trump. the new vicious attacks coming, just hours after one of the orderswa