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senator bernie sanders is going to join me in just a moment to talk about those priorities, as well as if and how democrats will be able to cut through the legislative and procedural weeds that they, themselves, cultivated in order to deliver on them. house progressives -- progressives, as you know, won't vote for a bipartisan roads and bridges bill until they get an idea of what senate moderates want in a social spending bill. moderates won't say what they want. apparently, until after a vote on the roads and bridges bill. tonight's breaking news, following house speaker pelosi and senate majority leader schumer's visit with the president this afternoon only adds to the pressure. speaker pelosi saying tomorrow's vote on the roads and bridges bill is still on. >> is there any chance that you pull the bill tomorrow? >> the plan is to bring the bill to the floor. >> are you worried that you may not have the votes? >> one hour at a time. >> well, whatever she does, one hour at a time, a senior administration official tells cnn tonight the president is following her lead and will support her decision if she says delay the vote. that official also says there were no major breakthroughs in the meetings which this official says was more of an update on where moderate senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema currently stand on the social spending bill. so joining us now with that on the table, bernie sanders, chairman of the senate budget committee. senator, thanks for being with us. where do negotiations stand right now? >> well, i think that what will likely happen tomorrow, anderson -- i can't be sure -- is that the bipartisan infrastructure bill will not succeed. and that's what i think is the right thing, and i support the progressives in the house for doing that. and the reason for that is what the president campaigned on. what the president wants. what the american people want. what 95% of the members of the democratic caucus in the house and the senate want are two major pieces of legislation. and that is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. very important. but what is even more important to my mind is to finally address the long-neglected needs of working families all over this country. and tell them that congress is listening to their needs and not just the billionaires and campaign contributors. and secondly, deal with the existential threat of climate change. we have got do that. so i think if the legislation tomorrow is defeated, i think it will open up the opportunity for some serious discussion to go forward so that we can pass both of these very important bills. >> so just explain that because it's confusing i think for a lot of folks who happen to follow this. you actually -- you support that bill that you think should go down tomorrow? >> yeah. that sounds a little bit crazy, that's right. i voted for it. i'm a former mayor. i know how important roads and bridges and sewer systems are. we need to do it. but the problem is if we pass that bill tomorrow, we lose the leverage that we have here with at least two senators in order to pass the more important reconciliation bill, which will deal with the crisis in child care. it will make community colleges tuition free. it will lower the cost of prescription drugs. it'll end the disgrace of us being the only major country not to have paid family and medical leave. and something that i have been working on, it'll expand medicare so that we will finally cover the dental needs of seniors, hearing aids and eyeglasses, among other things. and on top of all of that, it would be the most significant legislation to deal with the crisis of climate. >> so -- so just playing this out. you talk about the two senators. i assume you are talking about manchin and sinema. what then does this force them to do? if it goes down tomorrow, what -- what does that -- what does that time buy you? >> well, what it buys us is both of them work very hard and i respect that on the infrastructure bill. they want it passed. i want it passed. but what it says now is we are joined at the hip. and as you will remember, at the beginning of this whole process, what the president and senator schumer and -- and congresswoman -- house speaker pelosi said, we're going forward in tandem. both bills are going forward, together. that's the way this process started, and that is what we have got to do. and i think, at the end of the day, we will succeed. and the american people will be very, very happy. and i want to make this point. some people say, well, it's a very expensive bill. this bill, if i have anything to say about it, will be 100% paid for by ending the tax breaks and the loopholes that the wealthy and large corporations now are able to enjoy. we're going to end those, and we're going to lower the cost of prescription drugs by having medicare negotiate prescription drug prices with the pharmaceutical industry. >> so, senator manchin, you know, he is insisting he's not changing his mind before tomorrow. he put out this statement which reads in part, while i am hopeful common ground can be found that would result in another historic investment in our nation, i cannot and will not support trillions in spending on an all-or-nothing approach. there is a better way and i believe we can find it if we are willing to negotiate in good faith. so he also said today he could be open to a reconciliation bill by the end of the year. so essentially you are saying if this thing dies tomorrow, you're, in a sense, kind of calling his bluff. and now he's really got to negotiate because he doesn't have the -- the bill he wants. >> i wouldn't say calling his bluff. but also, again, i want to reiterate when senator manchin or anyone else talks about the spending in this bill, it must be pointed out that this is going to be paid for. this is not adding to the debt. >> isn't, though, i mean, you need senator manchin to get the spending package passed. isn't something better than nothing? i mean, isn't -- it's kind of a high-wire act you're -- you're playing, isn't it? >> well, you know, when you deal, anderson, with the existential threat of climate. and the scientists tell us we have a handful of years in order to -- in order to transform our energy system away from fossil fuel, that's a high-wire act. i -- i think it is morally irresponsible, inconceivable that this country is not leading the world in cutting carbon emissions and taking on the fossil fuel industry. and i should also add, as part of this whole thing, please understand that we are now taking on the pharmaceutical industry. they don't want to see lower drug prices. the health care industry. they don't want to see medicare expanded. taking on the fossil fuel industry. we're taking on the very rich and their lobbyists who don't want to pay more in taxes. this is a very consequential struggle. but at the end of the day, i think we're going to win this. >> have you spoken to senator manchin or senator sinema privately? do you know what exactly they want when it comes to an actual number on the spending package? because they -- i mean, everybody -- they seem to be very vague on that. >> that's -- that's part of the problem is, you know, when you're negotiating, you come forward. you tell me what you want. this is what i want. let's see how we work it out. but i think if there has been a lot of frustration with both of those senators in that they have not come forward and said, you know, this is what i want. this is what my concern has been. you know, they have talked in vague terms but we haven't seen the specifics that we need. >> so you really don't know, specifically, what sinema or manchin want? >> that is correct. >> so i mean, do -- just looking at this from the outside, i mean, democrats have the senate, the house, and the white house. some might look at that and say, wow, that seems pretty dysfunctional. i mean, does the party bear some responsibility to -- that they -- that everybody hasn't been able to come to a compromise? >> well, look. you know, we have control over the senate. that's correct. but i hope everybody understands it is a 50/50 split with the vice president casting the deciding vote. we have control over the house. nancy pelosi has a margin of three or four votes. so it is very, very tight. i think my frustration, anderson, is not necessarily the views of mr. manchin or ms. sinema. it is that when you got 48 people on one side and the american people overwhelmingly on the same side, and one or two people on the other side, you know, it is not appropriate, i think, for those couple of people to slow down progress. they have a right to be heard. they have a right to, you know, get concessions. that's what the process is. but, you know, any member of the democratic caucus, myself, anybody else, i believe in a medicare for all, single payer program. i think the current health care system is dysfunctional. i could go to chuck schumer tomorrow and say i'm not voting for that bill unless you have medicare for all. but that's not what the caucus wants. that would be irresponsible. so i think at the end of the day, we are going to have to come together and do what the american people want and tell the american people that, yes, this government is capable of standing up to powerful special interests and represent working -- represent working families. >> i'm going to ask you a question. i don't really like asking because it's just about politics and not about what actually, really matters which is, as you said, the climate change and health care for people. but if this doesn't get done, are -- are you worried, from a political standpoint, that that hurts the democrats in the midterm elections? >> this will get done and i think it will be a real asset. look. right now, we have, through the american rescue plan, been able to cut childhood poverty in half -- more than half -- because we are providing a $300 a month payment to working parents. it would be unthinkable to end that program and raise childhood poverty in america. what we are doing is enormously popular. lowering the cost of prescription drugs. demanding that the rich start paying their fair share of taxes. finally creating millions of jobs dealing with climate change. these are enormously popular issues. rebuilding the infrastructure. very popular. so we have the agenda that the american people want, and what we are not talking about enough, we are talking about senators manchin and sinema. we are not talking about the fact there's not one republican in the house or senate prepared to stand up to the greed of the drug companies, and lower the cost of prescription drugs. not one republican prepared to deal with the crisis of climate. that really is quite amazing to my mind. >> well, i mean, the irony, of course, and it's not even ironic, it's just sad, is that, you know, the -- the parties have changed and, therefore, they were fine having the floodgates of spending open under the trump administration. they're not under a democrat. >> yeah. that -- that's absolutely right. it was okay for the republicans to use reconciliation to provide some $2 trillion unpaid for in tax breaks for the wealthiest people in this country. that was fine. but when we are providing dental care and hearing aids for seniors, when we are addressing the crisis of climate, when we are gonna make sure that families in america don't have to pay more than 7% of their income for child care, when we're going to provide increased home health care -- oh, that's terrible. we can't afford it. and by the way, something else. something else. the military budget is now going to be somewhere around $770, $780 billion over a ten-year period, that is more than double what the reconciliation bill will be. and yet i hear very little discussion about throwing money at the military-industrial complex. >> senator bernie sanders, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. perspective now from cnn political director david chalian, and cnn political analyst gloria borger. gloria, you heard senator sanders saying this should go down tomorrow if there is not another deal. >> yeah, it really seems to me that progressives are not kidding around when they say we're ready to kill the infrastructure bill. which bernie sanders admits he voted for. and lots of progressives like and democrats like and is very popular in the country because they believe that that would guarantee that they only get half a loaf. and they want the whole thing. the issue is that failure to get even part of the other package seems almost so irrational, given everything that's in it that as bernie sanders just pointed out, so important to the american people. it's hard to see how they just say, okay, fine, we're not going to do any of that because they promised they would. and because the public wants a lot of it. they want lower prescription drug costs. they want better health care. so it seems to me that, you know, the process is so difficult that it's hard to see from here to there at this point. but i can't imagine that the biden administration would just say, okay, fine. i just can't see that. >> you know, david, no one thought thelma and louise were actually going to drive over the cliff, but they actually did in the end of the movie. spoiler alert. so what do you make of this strategy tomorrow? >> listen. nancy pelosi has said on repeated occasion, she's not going to bring a vote to the floor that she can't pass. one of her chief deputy whips today, dale kildee of michigan, said, you only bring a bill to the floor that you can pass. so now we see the math, right? nancy pelosi set a date for tomorrow on the bipartisan infrastructure deal but it's really an arbitrary date. i mean, this isn't something that has to be done the way the funding of the government has to be done by tomorrow at midnight, anderson. so it is a bit of an arbitrary deadline here that was created out of a deal she made with the moderates. and then used this week to try to build pressure on the progressives but when you look at the votes, they are simply not going to be there because there hasn't been enough progress on the other side, on that reconciliation bill. and so i will be very surprised. i know bernie sanders suggested perhaps you'll watch a vote fail tomorrow. i will be very surprised if nancy pelosi actually allows a failure to occur on her watch on a major agenda item of the president's on the floor tomorrow. >> and, gloria, there is this cnn reporting that we mentioned earlier that the president said he is following speaker pelosi's lead on the vote. and supports her decision if she delays it. >> right. and so, i mean, i agree with david. you know, the threat is there. we're going to kill the bill and she -- if she doesn't have the votes, she's -- she's not going to bring it up. but i think what this tells you about biden is that he is kind of a former man of -- a man of the senate. he wants to let them work it out. but at some point, anderson, and i don't -- i can't quite figure out when that point is -- i think the president has to say to everyone he's been meeting with, okay, enough. here's what we need to do. because if this goes down, my administration will be a failure. and we cannot let that happen. we need to sink or swim together. and i want you to swim, so here's what we need to do. and he needs to apply the pressure on both sides. and so far -- and maybe there has been and we don't know about it -- but so far, nobody's talking about that yet. >> david, quickly, what does it say if democrats can't get these bills passed while controlling the senate, the house, and the white house? >> yeah, well, as bernie sanders pointed out to you. it is true that they have control. but it's like control of a divided government, basically, because of what these margins are. but this will be devastating for the democratic party if they can't get this through as -- as gloria said, sink or swim together. that mentality may be the thing that, at the end of the day, gets an agreement and gets these two things across the board. it is the biggest moment for the biden agenda. and there is no doubt that there -- the future of these democratic majorities are very, very dependent on this. >> how stressful must this be like for nancy pelosi tonight. >> oh, man, yeah. >> i mean, gloria borger, david chalian, appreciate it. thanks. coming up next, how cell phone and surveillance video play into the manhunt for brian laundrie. breaking news on what the video shows and what the phone might suggest in the search for gabby petito's fiance. later, there is more breaking news from the capitol. new subpoenas by the house select committee. this time targeting key players in the so-called stop the steal rally which is the thing that led up to the attack on the capitol that was that morning. later, republican congresswoman liz cheney's latest break with her party and tom friedman's advice to democrats to maybe take that page from her playbook. he joins us ahead. ♪ ♪ woah, woah no ceiling woah ♪ ♪ woah good feeling woah woah ♪ ♪ i might send it up ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [doorbell] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [doorbell] ♪ ♪ [doorbell] ♪ ♪ there's my boy! all the delivery. no delivery fees. dashpass. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪ ♪ diarrheaaaa. ♪ pepto bismol coats your stomach with fast and soothing relief. and try new drug free pepto herbal blends. made from 100% natural ginger and peppermint. two new pieces of breaking news tonight in the manhunt for brian laundrie and one concerns a phone he purchased after returning home to florida from wyoming where his fiancee, gabby petito, was killed. the other involves surveillance video which we just now learned is part of the investigation. randi kaye tonight has the latest on both and she joins us from north port, in florida. so let's talk about this phone brian laundrie purchased earlier this month. >> reporter: so, anderson, the family attorney is telling us that brian laundrie went to an at&t store here in north port, florida, on september 14th and bought a new phone. the attorney also says that brian laundrie left that phone behind when he disappeared. and it is now in the hands of the fbi. but the timing is curious. september 14th. that's the day the attorney says brian laundrie bought the phone. that's also the day that brian laundrie's parents say they saw him last. that he disappeared on that day, without his phone and his wallet. and september 14th is also five days before gabby petito's remains were found in wyoming. so while she was missing, he was apparently out buying a new phone. and if you look at some of the questions surrounding this, why would he buy a new phone and then disappear on that same day without it? and also, more importantly, where is his original phone? where is that old phone? did he leave it in wyoming? did he toss it? did he lose it? did he have it with him when he was driving back here to florida? and even more importantly, what might have been on that original phone? we tried to ask the fbi some questions but it's an ongoing investigation so they can't comment, anderson. >> and he only bought the one phone? >> reporter: that's all we know from his lawyer. that's -- we don't know if he might have bought another phone another time in another area but we only know the one phone. >> so this came from his attorney. so there is also some new information about surveillance video from the laundrie family's camping trip earlier this month? >> reporter: right. that same laundrie family attorney told us that the whole family went camping on september 6th and 7th at ft. desoto park which is about an hour north of here. he said the whole family went to the campground and left the campground together. he didn't say whether or not they came home. just that they left together. well, now we know that the pinellas county sheriff's office has surveillance video of that campground at the time that the laundrie family was there. and they have handed that video over to the fbi as part of its active investigation. so we don't know what that video shows. we haven't seen it. but certainly you wonder, does it show the whole family arriving at the campground together as the attorney said and leaving together as he said? and does it show brian walking around? what was he doing there? was he perhaps scouting the area for some reason? these are all questions that need to be answered, anderson. >> randi kaye, i appreciate it. thanks. the former commander of the u.s. marshal service regional fugitive task force from new york and new jersey joins us. lenny, thanks so much for being -- being with us. i am wondering what you make of this news that -- that laundrie bought a phone at an at&t store and then apparently left it behind? >> well, good evening, anderson. and i -- i'd be quite shocked if he did not have a -- a prepaid phone, a burner phone, a throwaway phone, whatever you want to call it. you know, more importantly, and randi had a good point there, how many phones did they purchase? he was seen on -- on a video camera walking into the at&t store in his hometown. with his mother and -- and apparently, when they -- they executed that search warrant at his house, they found the one phone. well, why was that phone there? is that how he's going to communicate with his -- his mom and dad when he's on the run? a lot of unanswered questions but very interesting. >> and we know, according to authorities, that the fbi is now running a targeted search based on what they say is intelligence. how likely -- you know, how are they likely piecing together all of this? i mean, the phone, the campground, the mustang at the reserve, not to mention laundrie had a longtime -- you know, a long time to plan and a head start on investigators. and perhaps, the cooperation of other people. >> absolutely, anderson. i mean, right now, they are chasing a ghost. we go back to choke points when you are chasing human beings, especially when human instincts turn into animal instincts and that is apparently what's happening right now. he is on the run. he's -- he's got a ten-day head start. he is sleeping with one eye open but let's go back to the beginning. he had plenty of time driving that van across country. who did he call? how did he communicate? what types of apps is he -- is he using on that phone? you know, i called who's who, they are looking at the trusted circle of friends. turning their worlds upside down. he is going to make a mistake and not only that, factor into the equation his photo is plastered all over the country. this is getting national news for the past two weeks. the media's doing a great job. there is i think up to $170,000 in reward money. the streets talk, anderson, so hopefully it's a matter of time before this thing gets put to bed. >> this may be a dumb question but, i mean, in all your experience, why -- why do people -- why do people run? i mean, obviously, it buys -- fine -- it buys them some time, i guess. but it's -- he's -- as you say, his face is everywhere. people know who he is. you know, even if he can grow hair and -- and, you know, wear glasses, he's going to be found. i don't -- i don't understand the point of -- is it just, as you say, animal instinct? >> well, innocent people don't run. we all know that. and -- and, you know, i always say you can run but you can't hide. when you run, you only go to jail tired, anderson. however, you know, he doesn't have much of a choice. he's got -- he's got a possibility. you know, it's an alleged homicide going on in wyoming. that's the death penalty out there. he may know that. i'm not sure what his attorney, and what type of communications they're having. but that's cause for, you know, running as fast and as far as you can, i'm guessing. so i mean, to answer your question, i hunted down violent felony fugitives for three decades, and i could give you probably a thousand different answers to that question, why they run. >> if -- if he is alive, do you think he could have left the united states? how -- i mean, some people have said it's easy to walk from the united states into mexico. does getting into mexico really make much of a difference in terms of ability to track a person? >> you know, he -- anything's possible. you know, you certainly don't want to rule anything out as a fugitive investigator. when you are putting that puzzle together and connecting the dots, you got to look at everything. all the tips that are coming in, the sightings that are going on. could he have walked into mexico? could he be on a boat sitting off the coast of cuba? absolutely. i mean, he could be anywhere. however, we're on the ground. i mean, u.s. marshals, our task forces, other law enforcement, we're global. we're on the ground in several countries. we have an attache sitting in mexico city. all these areas that fugitives like to go to. so it's very, very difficult to stay on the run nowadays, definitely. i mean, those provisions are going to run out. if he is in the appalachians, in the woods, it doesn't matter. you know, hopefully this thing goes down without incident. and what is his mindset? is it suicide by cop? i mean, is he going to throw his hands up and come out? we hope so. >> lenny depaul, i really appreciate your expertise. thank you. coming up next, liz cheney used the testimony of a top u.s. general to criticize the conduct of her fellow republicans toward that general. some of them were sitting just feet away from her as she did it. in a moment, "new york times" columnist tom friedman joins me who recently spoke with the wyoming republican. and later, the january 6th committee that cheney also sits on issued new subpoenas today. we will have the names and details of that ahead. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric. turmeric helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. unlike regular turmeric supplements qunol's superior absorption helps me get the full benefits of turmeric. the brand i trust is qunol. elsewhere on capitol hill today, day two of testimony from top u.s. generals on the end of afghanistan mission. this time in the house with most republicans assailing general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. appearing in several books discussing his fears of the -- the president's -- former president's mental state and what he might do. most but not all republicans were assailing him today. congresswoman liz cheney applauded the actions of the general, and instead chastised her own republican colleagues. >> general milley, you found yourself in your constitutionally prescribed role, standing in the breach. and for any member of this committee, for any american to question your loyalty to our nation, to question your understanding of our constitution, your loyalty to our constitution, your recognition and understanding of the civilian chain of command is despicable. i want to apologize for those members of this committee who've done so, and i want to thank you for standing in the breach when so many, including many in this room, failed to do so. >> congresswoman cheney is the subject of the latest column by my next guest, "new york times" columnist tom friedman. i want to get perspective from tom who is also author of numerous books, including "the world is flat." tom, i want to speak about your column in a moment but first, i know you have spoken at length with congresswoman liz cheney. what do you make of what we just heard, her praising general milley for his loyalty to the constitution today and -- and chastising very directly her republican colleagues? >> she is just doubling down on the principled stand that she's taken. you know, anderson, congresswoman cheney and i probably disagree about 90% of policies. but we agree 100% on what moment we're in right now. we're in a gigantic -- an unprecedented constitutional crisis. we have a party whose loyalty is to a cult figure, donald trump, and not to the constitution. and liz cheney has understood that, which is why she has basically said i will risk my seat. i will risk the ability to promote the policies i believe in. in wyoming, i will take a chance even with my life to uphold the constitution. to call out this president for his undermining of that constitution. and as you heard in that clip, anderson, call out my colleagues for their loyalty to this man and not the constitution. remarkable. >> what price do you think she pays for this? >> well, you know, she is running against a whole rogue's gallery out there in wyoming. and -- and the way that the system works there is democrats and independents can vote in the republican primary. so she could actually win with 30% of the vote. she does have a chance. but it -- it's -- it's going to be difficult. she will tell you it's -- she faces a lot of opposition. wyoming is the most pro-trump state. he -- he won the largest percent of the vote there of any state in the union. >> you know, it's interesting because she was sitting in back i think sitting in front of her bobbing up and down was the former white house doctor, i believe that's who is now the congressman. who has completely just debased himself. i mean, i have respect for doctors but this guy -- it's extraordinary, the -- just the crap that is coming out of ronny jackson's mouth these days. >> anderson, it's not just ronny jackson. think what happened last week. you know, arizona runs this ridiculous audit by this pro-trump election auditing firm. they conclude after months that actually joe biden won a few more votes in arizona than he was actually attributed to by the election, not donald trump. and the day after or a few hours after, trump orders texas to audit the five biggest counties in the state. all where biden won. their 2020 election which trump won by 5%. and the governor of texas, greg abbott, does it immediately. just jumps. anderson, if cnn asks you tonight to wear a clown outfit and broadcast the news standing on your head, i have a feeling, anderson cooper -- the anderson cooper i know would say, you know what? i'm not going to do that. >> i only wear that at home. >> yeah, exactly. do you know anyone in your life, in your immediate surroundings who has so little self-respect, so little integrity that donald trump would call the governor of this big state, texas, and demand he run an audit on an election trump won and he just says -- >> i guess, ronny jackson. the fact that i guess he has a medical degree. he was a doctor in the white house. the fact that he is, you know, just saying, you know, medical diagnoses of the president and other people. you know, so he can do his little tap dance on fox news. it's just -- i just find that particularly, you know, he swore an oath once. and now he's just -- i don't know what he's doing. anyway, in your latest column, you argue that democrats as they struggle to pass president biden's agenda, should take a page from congresswoman cheney. just talk about that. what -- what do you mean by that? >> well, everybody's got to take a risk here. they have got to actually put themselves on the line with their own bases. whether it's the moderate or conservative democrats who just want to pass an infrastructure bill and not sign up for the larger human infrastructure bill, the $3.5 trillion that -- that president biden and the progressive caucus wants. and the progressive caucus has got to look inward and tell its own base, look, we can get some of this and not all of this. because, anderson, we face two challenges right now. we face the challenge of, obviously, we need more infrastructure. we need more human infrastructure to build our middle class for the 21st century. but we cannot, in my view, let this president fail because if this president fails, he is going to be ceding power to a party and a leader we now know from all the books, all the reporting of the last few weeks, was attempting to mount a coup last january 6th. and that is the alternative here. so -- so everybody has got to come to jesus here, and understand they've got to compromise. we're not dealing with the ten commandments. all right? we are dealing with politics, policies, horse trading. nobody's going to get it all, but everybody can get enough and everyone needs to stand up and show a little spine the way liz cheney did. and tell their -- their base, their constituency, i got you as much as i could now. we'll come back for more later, and there will be a later because this will propel biden forward. and if we don't, this will not propel biden forward. his presidency will go into a tailspin. and later will be too late. later will be donald trump. >> the interesting thing about that, though, is if you come from the extreme of any party, if you come from the progressive extreme or -- or conservative extreme and you have come up through the activist movement or through an ideological movement. and you find yourself in congress. yes, congress is all about, you know, compromise. but if you compromise and you're one of those people who is on the fringes or on the extremes, then the people who once liked you will, you know, eat -- they will eat you. they will destroy you and -- and take you down because you have betrayed the cause, as opposed to you have served the best interests of your constituents and -- and the country. >> well, maybe you have to do what liz cheney does in wyoming. and look people in the eye and tell them they're wrong. even if they fundamentally disagree with you. and you do it risking your seat in congress, all the policies you hope for, and maybe something even more. that's why i drew that comparison. welcome to the nfl. all right? that's what you got to do today. and much more is at stake than your little policy or your little district. we are talking about the crown jewels of the united states. we are talking about the most sacred thing we have, anderson, our ability to legally transfer power in a legitimate way. that is what is at stake here. not a road, not a bridge, not your favorite policy. and everyone's got to suck it up and find a way to compromise. and if they can't explain that to their district, they don't belong in politics. >> tom friedman, i appreciate it. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. well, just ahead, more breaking news on capitol hill. new subpoenas from the house select committee investigating the capitol attack. those names when we return. plus, word that a deal has been reached to fund the government. and there you have it- woah. wireless on the most reliable network nationwide. wow. -big deal! ...we get unlimited for just 30 bucks. sweet, i get that too and mine has 5g included. that's cool, but ours save us serious clam-aroonies. relax people, my wireless is crushing it. that's because you all have xfinity mobile with your internet. it's wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. more breaking news on capitol hill tonight. a second round of subpoenas from the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack. this time focused on individuals associated with the rally that preceded the capitol riot. ryan nobles now joins us from capitol hill with the latest. so who is included? >> reporter: it's a list of 11 different people who were directly involved in the planning and organization of the stop the steal rally that took place in front of the white house, that served as the prelude to the insurrection. some of these names may be familiar if you followed the trump administration or his campaign over the past five or so years. amy kramer and kylie kramer. they are part of an organization called women for america first. they were the principal organizers of that event. amy kremer, in particular, a longtime surrogate for the former president donald trump. also a name that may be familiar, katrina pearson, who served as a spokesperson for the trump campaign. she also was involved in that rally on january 6th. all of these individuals played a role on that day. but they also helped to plan events leading up to the events of that day. and so the committee wants to know what they knew about the planning and coordination and what it had to do with the insurrection itself. >> so there's -- i mean, what they are trying to do is find any connection between, you know, the rally organizers and what happened after the rally, is that right? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right, anderson. and i caught up with jamie raskin of -- of maryland. he is a member of the house select committee. and he explained to me exactly what they were looking for. take a listen. >> well, we are trying to reconstruct the entire chain of events that led to the most violent assault on the u.s. capitol since the war of 1812. and 1814. so it's important for us to figure out exactly what the relationships were between the official rally organizers and the white house. and the violent insurrectionists who launched the violence on that day. >> reporter: and i followed up and asked raskin, do they believe that there was some level of coordination, specifically about getting people into the capitol on that day? or if it was just part of a mob mentality? and he said that's exactly what they are trying to determine. and they also want to know specifically who might have been involved in that planning and if it was anyone in the white house. >> just finally, i want to ask you about what majority leader of the senate, chuck schumer, announced about funding the government. he says a vote will happen tomorrow morning, right? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. the senate is set to vote on a clean continuing resolution that would allow the government to stay open past the deadline of midnight tomorrow night. the senate is expected to easily pass it on a bipartisan basis. and then the house will take it up as well. they are both expected to pass. the reason they will pass, anderson, is because they split the two pieces of legislation apart. the continuing resolution and the debt limit. the debt limit remains a problem and there is not a solution for that quite yet. of course, the debt limit will be reached in the middle of october. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. thank you. up next, breaking news involving britney spears and her father who's controlled the singer's life and money for more than a decade. tonight, i'll be eating a buffalo chicken panini with extra hot sauce. tonight, i'll be eating salmon sushi with a japanese jiggly cheesecake. 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>> yes. she has a conservaconservator. that woman, jodi montgomery, overseeing her medical decisions. she will have a temporary conservator of her estate. he's a certified public account. this is something that jamie spears does not want. and britney's attorney says the reason he didn't want to be suspended is he doesn't want to turn over all of the files and the accountings and all of his reports from the last 13 years because, remember, matt rosengart wants an investigation and mismanagement of britney's funds. but there's a hearing when they will terminate the conservatorship. this was a formality. britney wanted her father suspended. britney saying she is on cloud 9. she is so happy. there were hundreds of people from the free britney movement here outside of the courthouse. they were chanting and crying. her attorney came and spoke to me afterwards and said this is a victory. he had just spoken to britney and she is elated. anderson, even though she has the conservatoconservatorship, for much longer and this is a major win for her. >> thank you. up next, youtube bans a doctor for spreading information on the covid vaccine. it's someone you've seen before on 360. a doctor spread misinformation about vaccine has been banned from youtube. we told you about joseph mercola in august, when randi kaye tracked him down to ask him about his comments regarding the covid-19 vaccines. now youtube has taken down his channel and other channels by activists. it's the way to cut down anti-vaccine contents. it will ban all videos that say commonly-used vaccines are dangerous. ricola said that anyone who asks questions or challenges the hard sell is immediately ly censored social media. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo crimeprimetime." >> we have new information on the g gabby petito. there's some bad information in circulation. we have it right. we will get it to you. first, high anxiety in our cap capital. will the democrats hold a vote tomorrow? even if there's a chance they can't get their own members in line to pass a bill. we'll know in 24 hours. this is the biggest cliff-hanger of the biden presidency. let's go through it. the latest, speaker pelosi says tonight, she plans to hold a vote tomorrow on biden's massive infrastructure bill.

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