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State and local partners, as well as throughout the state and elsewhere and in addition, were grateful for the support that we have imbedded from our israeli and mexican teams that have joined our operation. We have a full set of social Services Available to the families. At the hotel, where most of them are staying, and so they are operating in shifts. Theyre available around the clock with grief counseling, rabbis, other religious leaders all onsite to assist our families during this difficult, difficult process. Many groups have volunteered, as well, to help and were coordinating their services. Chief among them, Jewish Community services, which also operates the 211 help line here. Licensed clinicians and they specialize in trauma and grief counselling. Also, our Community Action and Human Services agencies and juvenile services department, those are county departments with our own licensed psychologists and social workers on the scene assisting. Florida blue has also offered to assist and weve set up a grief hotline. That number is 8338481762. Again, 8338481762. Among many, many others who are stepping up and helping us. I just wanted to stay how very, very moved i am and all of us are at the incredible outpouring of support that we have received right here in surfside. From all across the globe. In the midst of this incredible frajdy. We know people are feeling this, theyre feeling connected to us, we feel your support, we feel your love and compassion. This has truly shown us how interconnected we are as a w world, as a global community. So, on behalf of Miamidade County, i just want to say thank you, thank you so much, to the entire world for stepping up and holding us in the palm of your hands. Thank you so very much. For your love and for your prayers. And financially. We have received incredible support. There are multiple sites now available and over 750,000 has been received through just one of the funds, suppo supportsurfsupport supportsurfside. Org. God bless our families and our First Responders. Your labors have been just monumental and we know you do it with passion and commitment and you live to find people alive in the rubble. All right, were going to go back to this News Conference as the mayor goes back to english. I anticipate others will be speaking, as well, and there will be questions, certainly, from reporters. Well see how that unfolds. You know, pamela, we did get some news just now, that they did find another body in the rubble. They also, she says, they found some Human Remains. They are asking for dna samples, so, in other words, to be able to do rapid dna testing, but the numbers as a result have changed. Five now five confirmed deaths, up from four, 156 unaccounted for still, thats down from 159. 130 people have been accounted for. So, the numbers are changing, but this is very, very slowly this situation, pamela, its unfolding very slowly. Right. And she did talk about some of the progress made with putting out the fire there that was slowing some of the efforts on the ground, but wolf, as ive watched this and listened to her, i just think about all of those Family Members who are hanging on every word, hoping that there will be good news, that their loved one will be found. And, you know, these Search And Rescue team members, these First Responders, they are incredible to go in there, into the danger zone, essentially, of this collapsed building and tirelessly work to fire an anything, find the remains of bodies and body parts, as she said, and hopefully find more survivors. Ive been out with Search And Rescue members before, when i was in haiti years ago after the earthquake there and i can tell you, being with them firsthand, they are so committed and they never give up hope. I mean, i was there with them seven days, seven, eight days after the initial earthquake and they still put every ounce of energy into finding survivors and i have in doubt, wolf, as it remains a Search And Rescue mission, that nthey will contine to do that. But man, it is just so devastating and just thinking about those Family Members who are wondering, is my loved one still in there and alive and suffering . Or is my loved one, you know, dead from this Building Collapse . Its just an impossible situation, wolf. It certainly is, and its so wrenching, so heartbreaking, to think about those loved ones who have gathered here and are trying to get some information about their moms and dads, their brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, grandparents, this building, as you know, pamela, was d it was a very diverse building. A lot of people were inside, even though its supposedly the offseason here in the miami area. There were a lot of people inside. When you hear that number, 156 people still unaccounted for. They know names of people that were living there and they have not contacted anyone and you wonder, what has happened to these 156 people . And its totally understand blg understandable that their Family Members and their loved ones are getting increasingly frustrated and angry. They want results. We did hear the mayor tell me just a little while ago, he would be open if Family Members want, pamela, to allow them to go towards the rubble and see it for themselves. Hold that thought for a moment, though, pamela, because the News Conference is resuming. Our extraordinary gratitude for the men and women who are here working from all across the state, frankly, all across the world, to try to help these victims both in here in the rescue phase and all of the associated needs that come with it. This is a highly complex disaster. Im here to speak briefly about the federal response to it, which i think has been substantial, which we are grateful to the white house and all federal officials. This building had a substantial number of foreign nationals or families of foreign nationals and my office in conjunction with other congressional offices has been responsible in helping obtain visas very quickly for a lot of people who need to travel here. My understanding is that most of them are either here now or are en route. I want to thank the State Department, theyve been phenomenal and all of our consulates around the world and embassies in expediting these visas to travel here for these families. The State Department is onsite, they have personnel onsite which will help further expedite this, should initial relatives need to come here. Also, of course, fema is here. Unlike other disaster situations, in this situation, all victims that have been impacted by this are going to be registered through the Family Center thats located here. They will then be traveled towards fema to determine eligibility and what services they are eligible for from the federal government. In addition, additional federal resources may be made available as requested by the county, whether its the Army Corps Of Engineers or other elements of the department of defense. And i also want to thank the Corporate Community that has stood up. I know for example that uber has been transporting many of these families as they arrive from overseas free of cost and we thank them for that. A number of hotels have Pprovidd Housing Accommodations for them. And i want to thank people all across the world, as the mayor mentioned and others have mentioned, we have offers of support and help, concrete help from countries throughout latin america, israel as well and we are grateful for those officers. Those offers are Towforwarded T The Local Authorities who will make the determinations. We are grateful to the whole country and to this community that has responded the way it has and continues to respond and we continue to hold hope, we pray for gods grace, we pray for miracles and we pray for gods peace and strength on the family and those who have been impacted by this. [ speaking spanish ] well continue to monitor this i think we just lost wolf there on the ground in surfside. Theyre listening to florida senator marco rubio speaking at this Press Conference there in surfside, florida. We did find out some new information, that another body was uncovered, as well as body parts. Three bodies uncovered in total, 130 people accounted for, 156 unaccounted. And wolf, you know, he talked about they are just all of these Family Members, of course, who are just hanging on, hoping and hoping that their Family Member survived this Building Collapse and that the Search And Rescue team will come upon them and hope is such an important theme here. As you have been speaking to people on the ground, some of those First Responders or people who have been in that situation, they do remind our viewers, remind all of us that there have been situations like in haiti where a little boy was found eight days after a Building Collapse. So, while there is hope, it also is a very tough reality, as we are at day three now and theres still so many people unaccounted for, wolf. You know, and whats also significant, pamela, you know, you and i cover politics hold on a moment. I think the mayor of surfside is now speaking at this News Conference. I received personal calls from the white house, i received a call from the speaker of the house nancy pelosi, i received support from our two u. S. Senators, rick scott and marco rubio. Ive received support from Debbie Wasserman schultz and all the representatives. Governor desantis has been here over and over again. Our county mayor, daniela cava y, has been great. The issue is, weve been fighting the elements, weve been fighting the fire, but we have one objective. And its to bring those people out of the rubble safely and return them to their families and thats all were going to do today, thats all were going to do tomorrow and thats all were going to do the next day and the next day until its done. So, our objective here is to bring these people out of that rubble and to support the families, thats all there is to it, its not complicated. And the work goes on, thank you. Thank you, mayor. Now miamidade fire chief allen kaminsky. Good evening. We continue with our aggressive Search And Rescue strategy. Were able to contain the fire, minimize the smoke earlier this morning, around 10 30, 11 00. And weve continued the Search And Rescue efforts. Currently, were searching the entire debris field. We separated into multiple sections and were actively, with our five task force that we rotate through, we actively are applying our Search And Rescue techniques. Were still aggressively using all of our tools that we have in regards to the sonar. Weve done several sweeps, again, with the debris field, with our k9, as well as using any type of Video Equipment that we have, as were establishing these search techniques. Well continue going through this, you know, as hard as we can, im very proud of our task force members, very proud of miamidade fire rescue and all of our activities that weve done and were going to continue searching and hopefully with a positive outcome. Thank you, chief. And now erika benitez, miamidade fire rescue en s span yol. You know, its interesting, were going to get back to the News Conference in a moment, were getting new information. Its interesting, pamela, that what this has done, i was saying, weve covered politics for awhile, what this has done is brought together so many elements, because theres enormous cooperation now coming from the federal government, from the biden administration, coming from the State Department and senator marco rubio was underscoring that the governor was underscoring that they are grateful to everything thats going on and youre not hearing the anger and the partisanship, youre seeing the country at least in this area, pamela, getting together, working together, because this is such a horrible, horrible situation that has unfolded and Everyone Wants to do whatever they possibly can to help. Right, theyve all put their politics aside so they are all focusing on this and as you heard the mayor say, look, this isnt a resource problem. This is a luck problem. We have the resources, because they have been pouring in from all over the place, politics just doesnt matter here and youre right, wolf, that its something that we havent seen for awhile. Republicans, democrats, no matter their political background, coming together, focusing on this situation and, you know, speaking of resources, wolf, i was interviewing okay, were going to go back to the Press Conference now. Lets listen in. When we come across Human Remains, thats photograph, collected on the scene and directly transported to the medical Examiners Office for processing. [ speaking spanish ] and wolf well probably be going back soon. Pamela, you were making a point, go ahead. Right, i was talking to the florida Senator Nelson and he, the former florida senator, i should say, who is now the new nasa administrator, he said he knew two people in that building, one wasnt in her apartment when the Building Collapsed, another was in her apartment and is unaccounted for at this point, but he talked about the technology that nasa has given to the First Responders on the ground that actually allows them to hear heartbeats of any survivors that are there and, you know, sonar, theyre using every bit of resources they have, wolf, to find any survivors that could be in that rubble right now and it is just an incredible effort all around. And its raining now again, which further, further complicates this Search And Rescue operation. There have been fires there, but the rain certainly does complicate this situation. Were going to get back to the News Conference momentarily, but David Paulson is, i think joining us right now, is that right . Not yet. Were going to get to the former fema director, were going to get back to him shortly, but if you look at these pictures, pamela, you see whats going on, it is so, so devastating to think about all that rubble, all that rubble that is there and god only knows whats underneath all that rubble. Theyre working as best as they can. Ryan young is with us, as well. Ryan, youve been covering this actually, brian todd is joining us right now. Brian, youre down here, as well. And i know youve been doing a lot of reporting. Whats the latest youre hearing . Right, wolf, i think its significant what the fire chief just said, they contained that fire inside the complex. That fire was a huge problem earlier today and yesterday. The mayor of miamidade said it was really dangerous for the rescuers. They had to bring heavy equipment in to dig a drench to try to isolate that fire. It was clearly causing a lot of changer to the First Responders, to the rescuers as they were tunneling in and trying to find people. The fact they have contained that fire, i think, is significant now. It could give them just a lot more leeway and a big break in trying to find people inside that rubble, wolf. That fire was a Huge Development over the past Severn Hour Sever to hear the fire chief say theyve contained that, thats significant. Its also significant that the mayor called for that adjoining complex, the champlain towers north, to be evacuated. Its unclear if anyones going to give the go ahead to actually do that. You dont know how many people live in that building. There are about 130 units inside each of these buildings. And to get all those people out, thats a pretty significant undertaking, especially now when youve got the rescue crews, you know, tunneling in and trying to dig for survivors, wolf, so, those two Developments Haven be significant in the last several hours, especially the containment of that fire. That might give the First Responders, you know, a big break that theyll need. Yeah, thats a good point, brian. Stand by. David paulson is joining us right now, the former fema director. And former fire chief here in Miamidade County in florida. You know, its interesting, david, that we heard the mayor of Miamidade County say they did find another body, so, the confirmed death toll now is up to five. 156 people are still unaccounted for. And 130 are accounted for. Theyve also found some Human Remains. It seems to be so, so slow, whats going on, but i want your thoughts. Well, of course its slow. Because they are under the assumption that people are still alive, so, they have to go slow so they dont cause damage that would Injury Somebody or perhaps kill somebody who survived the collapse. And thats why its slow going. And dont forget, this is all concrete structure so theres 12 layers of thick concrete in that pile of rubble that they have to go through. And you saw the trenching through. They have four, five different teams on the ground. And these are experienced teams. You have the city, Miamidade County, they brought in a team from mexico and one from israel. So, weve got good people on the ground that know what theyre doing, wolf. And you know that very well. Youve been with them before. So, it is slow going and i know the families are frustrated, but we want to go slow at this point in case there is somebody that has survived the collapse of this building. Yeah, and its really dangerous for all these firefighters, these Rescue Workers to go there, because its such an unstable situation and there have been fires and water and its raining once again. How significant of a factor is it, the fact that it rains, its raining and certainly complicating this Search And Rescue operation. Yeah, wolf, all of that together makes it a very complicated we dont know what kind of damage the fire did. Obviously the rain doesnt help at all. Plus we, the fire department, was Pumping Water in there to try to contain that fire that they couldnt even find. We had no idea where it was. So, all of that is part of that, and also now theyre taking debris out and moving it and that unstabilizes the debris pile also. And we dont know the condition of the rest of the building, how its standing. The engineers are in there looking, but its very difficult. You know, they do make sure they can shore up that building as best as possible so we dont have another collapse or mir in more injuries or fatalities. And the mayor of miamidade said they have found, some, her word, some Human Remains and they have dna samples ready to go, rapid dna testing. David paulison, thank you so much for all your expertise, were grateful to you. Lets go over to pamela. Okay, wolf, thank you so much. Well be back with you on the ground there in florida shortly. In the meantime, recordbreaking heat, dangerous fire conditions, melting polarize. The Climate Crisis across the globe is nearing an irreversible stage. Joining me next to talk about that and much more, former Vice President al gore. Well be right back. Every day unilever does good for communities across america. Every squeeze every smile every drop every style every spray every bubble every day dove, suave hellmanns donate everyday products to local communities. Every day u does good. 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I left this out in the sun, so, it was about 120. Kind of going back at the moment its about 100 degrees. But the National Weather service says that throughout this weekend, we could be reaching 110 degrees. The record here, 107. The problem is that this is going to happen over a couple of days. So, there is no relief in sight for a lot of people. Thats why youre seeing so many of them come out to places like this, where the children can have some time to play in the water and cool off just a tiny little bit. The National Weather service says heat is one of the leading causes of death when youre talking about weatherrelated incidents. I want you to listen to how theyre describing the situation here this weekend. Could refer to it as a heat dome. Its essentially a giant air mass thats essentially trapped and it heats up day after day from the strong Solar Radiation were getting this time of year and without that blocking pattern breaking down, theres just nowhere for the hot air to go. Aside from the duration of this heat wave and the intensity of this heat wave, another thing thats looking quite concerning is our overnight low temperatures. Overnight temperatures in the 70s and 80s. And thats the concern. No time for the body to cool off. There are a number of cooling stations, thats available for everyone. Emergency Services Also available and ready in case there is any problems, but they do say that people just need to be careful. Pam . All right, Camilla Bernal, thank you so much for that. And for millions of americans, extreme weather like were seeing out west is now just part of routine life. 15 years ago, former Vice President al gore sounded the alarm on the effect of rising co2 levels and rising temperatures. If this much on the cold side is a mile of ice over our heads, what would that much on the warm side be . Ultimately, this is really not a political issue so much as a moral issue. If we allow that to happen, it is deeply unethical. Former Vice President al gore joins me now. Mr. Vice president , nice to see you, thank you for making time for us tonight. Well, thank you, pamela, and before we turn to this subject, may i express my own deep and Heartfelt Sympathies for the families in South Florida who are dealing with this horror, the uncertainty and the feared losses, hoping for a miracle and express my deep respect for the rescuers who are incredibly brave and skilled. I know youve seen this in action and i just wanted to say that, but let me turn to your subject now, this is affecting millions and millions of people around the world right now. It is and youre seeing this heat wave out west, we just heard that report. How much do you attribute this record heat wave to Climate Change . Well, the Climate Scientists often say that the right question to ask is how much worse is this because of the Climate Crisis . And of course, the answer is, you know, 19 of the 20 hottest years ever measured have been in the last 20 years, last year was the hottest of all, the last seven have been the hottest of all. This is this is heating up our world in an enormous way and its not only the Pacific Northwest, pamela. You know, the projected temperature tomorrow in portland is projected to shatter their alltime heat record by four de degrees. But look at the southwest. They are in a 20year drought directly connected to the Climate Crisis. The water levels are at an alltime low. Mexico, 85 is in a drought. Colombias had disaster after disaster. More than a Million People in madagascar are in danger of starvation right now because of backtoback droughts connected to the Climate Crisis. All over eastern europe, russia, malta, alltime Temperature Records being broken. Finland. Asia has is coming off a more than 100 billion of climaterelated disaster losses last year. And its getting worse faster than we are yet deploying solutions. Theres hope because were gaining momentum, but this its because were putting more than 162 million tons of manmade Heat Trapping Global Warming pollution into the atmosphere every single day and the accumulated amount is trapping as much extra heat energy as would be released by 600,000 hir shroche ma atomic bombs exploding every day. If we can get to net zero emissions, it would be three, four years before the switch is flipped and the temperatures stop going up and we can start bringing it down again. That is going to take a worldwide effort with the cooperation of not just americans but also other countries like china, which is such a big contributor. Before we get more on that, you mentioned just the terrible tragedy unfolding in florida right now. There was a professor with Florida International University Institute of environment that told cnn he determined in a study last year that the condo tower was sinking about 2 millimeters a year from 1993 to 1999. I want to be clear. We do not know if that contributed to the collapse in any way, but how much of a warning should this serve about rising sea levels and those buildings that are there on the coastal lines . Yeah, well, as you said, we do not know the cause of this Building Collapse and the discovery, the news yesterday of this warning 2 1 2 years ago that the construction was deeply flawed, that may be the cause, but the experts will sort that out. There are areas in the world where the Sea Level Rise long before it comes over the shoreline, comes in underneath and changes the water table and pushes the water table up. But let me say, again, we do not have evidence at this time that that is connected to this Building Collapse. There are many areas in the world where that is a direct issue and the Sub Sigh Dance is also connected to it in many areas of the word. Right, we hope with time well have more of those answers of what caused this Building Collapse, but it certainly brings more scrutiny to the issue and also raises the question once again, what happens to these americans living in coastal regions that face more flooding, that faces more intense storms, people have already fled the west over this heat and wildfires. How do you see this relocation playing out in the coming years and the coming decades . Well, were seeing it in many regions of the world. In bangladesh, where, in the river delta areas, the Sea Level Rise and the much more powerful storms coming onshore, last year in the u. S. Was the worst Hurricane Season ever in terms of the number of hurricanes, but in bangladesh, a Million People have already migrated northward, indias built the largest steel fence in the world across its southern border with bangladesh. Central america, the backtoback hurricanes last year hitting right almost in the same place, Unleashed Another 10,000 refugees coming from Central America northward through mexico toward the United States. Weve seen people coming across the mediterranean toward europe. And the Lancet Commission has predicted there could be as many as 1 billion Climate Refugees in the balance of this century. This destabilizes political systems, triggers xenophobia, weve already seen in europe a lot of right wing authoritarian movements. So, the political dimensions of this have been understated but theres so many others, pamela, there are large regions of the world that are in danger of becoming literally unliveable because of the combination of esca escalating, higher and higher temperatures, plus higher Humidity Levels and some of those regions are seeing massive outflows of Climate Refugees. So, people wonder, well, what more can i do . And it does raise the question of collect live i, what more should americans have to do . White house climate envoy john kerry was asked whether americans would have to change their lifestyle to confront Climate Change. Heres what he said. Well, i think theres a false choice here that youre presenting people. You dont have to give up a quality of life to achieve some of the things we know we have to achieve. Do you agree with that . Well, largely, i do. I think john kerry is doing a great job for president biden, by the way. But think of it this way, pamela. For the last five years, the Fastest Growing job in the United States has been solar installer, growing five times faster than average job growth. Currently, the Fastest Growing job is wind turbine technician. The oxford Policy Review has found dollar for dollar, investments in solar and wind and evs and batteries and the Green Revolution creates three times as many jobs as continuing with these dirty and dangerous, devastating fossil fuels. Meanwhile, the Fossil Fuel Industry is still giving Campaign Contributions and lobbying and using the Revolving Door to try to twist the political systems here in the u. S. And elsewhere to do their bidding. And we just got to stop doing that. As for what individuals can do, become active as a citizen in our democracy, regardless of what Political Party youre in. By the way, a majority of republicans now favor bold action to solve the Climate Crisis. But the lobbyists have too many of the elected officials in congress in a hammer lock, threatening them if they dont do what the polluters tell them to do, then theyll fund a primary opponent for them in these gerry mgerrymandered districts and run them out of office. But the answer for this is for enough people in both mrit s political parties, independents included, to put the pressure on, to do the right thing. This is this is about the future of humanity. And let me repeat, we have hope. We have seen pledges from countries All Around The World to really move rapidly. Let me give you an example. Last year, worldwide, if you look at all of the new Electricity Generation that used to be coal and gas, 90 of it was from solar and wind last year. The projections are that in the decades going forward, 95 will be from solar and wind. Electric vehicles will soon be significantly cheaper than the internal combustion engines. Were seeing advances in every sector that together make up a Sustainability Revolution that has the magnitude of the industrial revolution, coupled with the speed of the digital revolution. Investors are shifting funds in order to finance this Sustainability Revolution. So, were really making progress. But its critically important for the leading nation in the world, our country, to take steps now in preparation, well before the summit in november in glasgow, scotland, which is, by far, the most important Summit Meeting on climate since the historic agreement on climate in 2015. I think joe biden is doing a terrific job and weve got to give him the support by getting on the phone and email and meetings in person, to tell these members of the house and senate to stop doing whatever the Fossil Fuel Polluters tell them to do and start caring about our children. We can solve this but weve got to take action. Okay. 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Our teams have been working around the clock as always to search for survivors. They have not stopped. And today, our Search And Rescue teams found another body. In the rubble. And as well our search has revealed some Human Remains. The process of identifying these victims is very difficult. Were going to be relying on dna testing and that is why weve already been gathering dna samples from the Family Members. So, they have all participated and provided dna to assist us in the identification. This allows us to do rapid dna testing onsite. Today we also learned a Structural Engineer warned of major structural damage back in 2018, requiring Major Repairs to that building. Those repairs were about to begin, were told, three years after the warning that they were absolutely necessary. Pamela . Now the u. S. Supreme court has spoken. Let there be no doubt. While i strongly disagree with the courts decision, i accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome, which will be ratified next monday in the electoral college. And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, i offer my concession. So, that was then Vice President al gore nearly 21 years ago putting country over party and putting the democratic process over his personal desire to be in the white house. A stark contrast from what we saw play out with President Donald Trump after his much more decisive 2020 defeat. The former Vice President is back with us now. So, if you would take a listen to what republican congresswoman liz cheney said recently about that historic moment. When i think about 2000, i think about sitting on the inaugural platform in January Of 2001 watching al gore, of course, you know, we had won, im sure he didnt think he had lost, we had fought this politically very, very intense battle and he conceded. He did the right thing for this nation. Mr. Vice president , what was going through your mind when you conceded . Well, first of all, i want to express my gratitude and admiration for liz cheney on the issue that shes become known for recently, and that is standing up to the craziness in her party. What was going through my mind is, whats going to be best for the country . There was no way to really see playing it out in a way that would overturn the result. It would have gone to the House Of Representatives and the constitutional procedures gave the other side the complete advantage. And, you know, in some ways, ill quote Winston Churchill who said about americans, americans generally do the right thing after first exhausting every available alternative. Thats sort of the situation i was in. But more seriously, it was a question of, what is right for the country . And you know, pamela, the refusal of the former president to acknowledge that he lost, by 7 million votes, it wasnt close, for gods sake, and apparently a majority of his party is still so enthralled to him that they still believe that the American People did not make the judgment that they clearly made, this is very damaging to our democracy. Im hoping that this craziness will fade over time, but we keep getting this nonsense, like this foolish exercise to bring in some cyber ninja group in arizona to look for bamboo in the ballots there, its absolutely nuts. We hear about a. I. , standing for artificial intelligence, theyre putting another kind of a. I. Out, artificial insanity. Theyre putting out messages that create an alternate reality and people get into these Echo Chambers on the internet and its all they hear and they begin to believe and they begin to believe the alternate reality. We have got to follow the rule of reason, and honor american democracy, and acknowledge the will of the American People. They spoke loudly and clearly. And its interesting, you you point out, donald trump, the former president , who has been the leader of this movement. He is the one that started it. The 2020 election was 235 days ago, and trump continues to complain about his loss. What is your message to him . Well, i im not sure that whatever i say to him would have any impact, whatsoever. But just on the off chance that it would, i would say, please, do the right thing. Acknowledge reality. Stop hurting this country. Stop undermining democracy. Honor the great and honorable traditions of the United States of america. This cannot go on, the way it is. Now, i will i will point out, pamela, that its kind of a sideshow. And people are turning off to it, now. I really think theyre beginning to. And joe bidens popularity continues to rise. Look at what hes done, in controlling the pandemic. Look at what hes done, in facilitating the incredible, economic resurgence with a very strong climate plan. Going overseas, and really bringing the respect for the United States back up, again, after it sunk to an historic low during the previousfour years. For reasons we, all, understand. I think he he is really doing an outstanding job. Hes got a tough hand to to play but he is playing it with great skill. Okay, Vice President gore, stick around. We are going to talk more about the biden administration, and what is it is doing in this fight against Climate Change. We will be right back. Thanks so much. For a limited time, you can save more on flights, hotels and rental cars during pricelines freedom sale. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. With the freedom sale at priceline, every trip is a big deal. Hearing is important to living life to the fullest. 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But, everyone listening to this, regardless of your party, please, get involved as a citizen. And ask your elected representatives to put the interests of the American People, first. And reject the the the polluters money, and the polluters influence. Do whats right for the American People. Its clear, you are very passionate about Climate Change, about this country. You had mentioned, earlier, about the damage the big lie has done to democracy. Lets listen to the formerVice President mike pence who spoke thursday at the reagan library. Now, i understand the disappointment many feel about the last election. I can relate. I was on the ballot. But, you know, theres more at stake than our party and our political fortunes, in this moment. If we lose faith in the constitution, we wont just lose elections. We will lose our country. What is your reaction to what you heard there from formerVice President pence . And how concerned are you about the state of democracy . Well, you know, you started with a clip on the time when i made the decision i made. Mike pence was a Freshman Congressman sitting in the chamber, when that happened. And another one, who was sitting next to him, at the time, recently, reached out to me. And told me his reaction there. Mike did the right thing. When he had to certify the vote. But that action, certifying the vote, is the legal point where the new president is certified. Lets not lose sight of the fact that it was at that exact moment that that the former president inspired and motivated a criminal mob to invade the capitol. Shouting, hang mike pence. Going after speaker pelosi. Putting a hangmans noose up. The timing was not an accident. They were trying to overturn our constitution. I think that we withstood that. And we will withstand other challenges. We have been through a lot, in this country. But the resilience of the American People and the majesty of The American Constitution will hold, and will prevail. But weve, all, got to put our shoulders to the wheel, and make it work effectively. Citizens have a crucial role in the strength of our democracy so i think we will prevail. But everybody can hemlp by get getting involved and urging our elected officials to do the right thing. We are going to end it on that strong note. Former Vice President al gore, thank you for making the time for us on this saturday evening. We appreciate it. And the next hour of cnn newsroom starts right now. Tonight, what caused the unspeakable tragedy in the area here near miami. Cnn, now, learning that an engineer raised concerns years before the condo. The 12story condo Building Collapsed. Donald trump, meanwhile, kicks off his revenge tour, as its called, by railing against republicans who defied him. And five people are dead, after a hot air balloon flies into power lines before crashing do