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>> harris: it is the latest example of the deadly consequences of an unchecked open border. a 12-year-old girl has been found strangled in texas. 2 illegal immigrants are charged with her murder. department of homeland security's sources have to fox news, both those suspects trust our border illegally from mexico. they were first caught and released by border patrol earlier this year. this is "outnumbered." i am harris faulkner here with my cohost kayleigh mcenany and emily compagno. on "out keg." fox news contributor, an attorney and former nypd inspector is with us. for more on the murder in texas, i want to start with mike tobin who is in chicago today. >> i.c.e. officials said 2 venezuelan men came into the u.s. illegally. 12-year-old texas girl is dead. snuck out of her room. it is not clear how she made contact with the suspects. they were captured by surveillance cameras right up to the last moments of our life. please -- attract them to a bridge where police say that about-year-old was murdered and dumped in a bye you and her body later found in a creek. the medical examiner says the cause of death was strangulation. the last time her mother saw her was when she sent her little girl to bed. >> of the biggest hug, the biggest hug. >> fox news 26-year-old crossed into el paso on an unknown date. he was picked up and made by border patrol and released with a notice to appear in court at a later date. 21-year-old also crossed into el paso illegally and was released with a notice to appear. they were picked up by police in an apartment complex not far from the alleged murder scene. >> now we want the justice system to do its job. if there was ever a circumstance where you do not give someone bail, this is it. >> evidence is being examined to determine if jocelyn was sexually assaulted and said only that the crime scene is hor horrible. >> harris: i can only imagine. mike tobin, thank you very much. there seems to be something going on with our white house right now where they don't react to these stories in real time. and it seems like we are waiting longer and longer. what is the calculation politically in your estimation and reacting to the death of another american child. suspects are illegal immigrants and now caught up in a catch and release situation and then we know should not exist. >> paul: does it not seem like we have it a point where somebody in washington has made a decision that there is an acceptable level of collateral damage in order to get a permanent democratic voting bloc into this country. i will give you a quote direct from chuck schumer." with the same level that it used to. we need to welcome immigrants and get citizenship for 11 million. what does that tell you? at those 11 million were calculated to vote republican with some of the wall would be 60 feet high. at this point to advance the story a little bit, you've got a slam-dunk these prosecutions absolutely. you've got to start to gather intel as well. because we've got to know what we are up against. a lot of the stuff is organized. donald trump does end up as president, he's got to have a lot of work to do. the venezuelan prison gangs, they are here and very clearly we are not seeing the big deal. where are the programmatic cases? where are they? nypd did a big one. the big ricoh level case against these venezuelan gangs. they are in the back of a dr drawer. they should be in the gran grand jury. >> harris: can we talk about what paul has just brought up? i thought that threat was so real that even christopher wray has been saying, something will happen if we don't start to change things at this point. it's happening now. where is the doj on this? >> emily: where is the mainstream media and the liberal left? they called in fearmongering stating the truth. for example, an illegal immigrant mother of five or illegal immigrant 13-year-old in central park and yet another victim. the saddest part to me as apparently if it is an american life, and matters last of these people. is it and now -- out the highest rapes along our southern border? the 85,000 unaccompanied minor children. with that i deserve a distinction between fearmongering and truth or something worthy of attention? how much is enough? how much is the attention of the commander in chief in this party who apparently only cares about boats. i note that here and there is yet another tragic case, it was a community that responded to get essentially to capture these -- known to authorities let go. known to border patrol multiple times illegal immigrants like the ones in queens. right now essentially, communities are cleaning up the work of the failed policies of our failed administration but lives are being lost in the interim. we say their names. >> harris: let's say the name of a 12-year-old jocelyn today. we heard moments ago from her mom who said if she could have hug. just on that annulment longer. it is pretty unbelievable that we have a situation where these illegal immigrants came across our border in el paso, texas. and we are go into the country. we had no idea where they went. this child's body was found in houston. they hadn't left the state of texas. they are free to roam about the country. >> tomi: they are targeting women. particularly young women. to emily's point, i ask not only where is the liberal mainstream media but where are the feminists? this is something we have been asking for years now when it comes to women's issues. beyond just abortion, women's issues in terms of women's sports and in terms of young women being victimized by men venezuelan gangs. they are targeting young vulnerable women. this is not going to stop. they are not going to stop targeting young women, because they are the most vulnerable among us. they are preying on young women. we are not hearing anything from the feminist crowd that pretends and claims to care about young women. because then you have to acknowledge the problem that your party has created. that is the same reason he will not say rachel morin's name. the same reason why joe biden couldn't get laken riley's name right. if you put a face and a name to a crisis, you have to address it. what they are expecting us is to let millions in and hope for the past. >> harris: the best is not happening in some of these ca cases. nobody believes that every body is all one thing. most of those people may want to come here for better jobs. coming for a better job does not qualify you for asylum. >> kayleigh: that much and i have this morning is how many more names will be come to know? just 2 days ago, we were listing out the names laken riley and rachel morin. and then you learn about jocelyn, this 12-year-old who is killed. when you include the 13-year-old. when you look at them, what is the nexus between all of them? a failure of government. a migrant allegedly kelly rachel morin. he was a got away. an illegal immigrant came into the country allegedly assaulting that 13-year-old. he was caught and released. move forward to this 12-year-old who was killed. it was 2 venezuelan illegal immigrants who came through allegedly and kill this little girl and they were caught and released. it is catch and release. in some cases it is catch and release an assault. and kill and how are they getting away with it? it is the press. the associated press guideline is 2 men arrested in strangulation of a 13-year-old. they were 2 illegal immigrants. by this biden not to address this? the mainstream media lets them get away with it. shame on you, associated press. you neglect a very key point. >> harris: why don't those reporters and anchors say their names? kayleigh, i would further what you are saying. do they even care? >> emily: we saw the congressman laughed. not only are they not saying the names, apparently it is cause for mirth and joy and laughter at the fingertips of not only the mainstream media journalists but also our lawmakers. >> harris: you mentioned that got away. what we learn today was that he had tried to enter the country . and rodney scott, former border patrol chief who was under the trump administration when you were there. what he was talking about was the fact that he had to pay extra money to the cartel and gain extra information about where he could go. ed was plotting against the country. this is a bigger thing then coming to the border and simply saying, there is an opening. now it is a conspiracy to get into this country. when is the department of justice going to get involved? >> paul: i would like to see donald trump now telling the four nations doing it. >> emily: i hope it is a debate question. >> harris: who is driving? 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michael from "the washington post" said the notion that former president -- that the former president became more self obsessed and dangerous and extreme talking about trump has been seeded throughout biden's campaign. they are going to try to paint donald trump in that light. i am wondering if this is a little taste of the joe biden we will get. let's roll the flashback. >> president biden: trump and the extreme maga republicans pose a clear and present danger to our democracy. represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. if you have a problem figuring out whether you are from me or tromp, then you ain't black. >> kayleigh: do we get this biden or a different biden? >> paul: donald trump has the ability to go to people. these 2 can snipe at each other pretty good. if biden goes that way, if you get gets goaded into ad hominem attacks including -- let's remember something. the prosecution and conviction, trump's numbers bumped. that's not a winner for him. if you get into a thing where biden defaults to convicted felon and those types of attacks including extreme maga republican. he's insulting at least 40% of the country by saying that. that is the great unifier. that is when he loses. even january 6th i don't think has the currency it did. right now, it is the big 2. inflation, immigration. those are the things that will decide the election. >> kayleigh: if you are waking up setting around camp david and you are saying, what do we do? how do we prep for this? i would change for us when see these numbers. let's pull up the fund-raising numbers. trump raised so much money after the conviction. now the cash on hand, trump has the advantage. 116 million versus biden's 91 million. the convicted felon language, if you bring that to the debate stage, you are going to light another fire under the base. not just the base. >> emily: think he is harnessing that. you win the lottery, what do you buy for that? i also think equally yoked to that amazing war chest is the fact that the biden administration has plummeted female voters and many other types of voters that it would do trump so well to pick up in a strategic way. we know that biden's numbers among women are the lowest in 20 years that a democratic candidate has had. he is losing young men and men without college degrees. we know that he has plummeted black and hispanic voters. they need to be picked up. we talk about immigration in the economy. studies have shown that the economy is polling higher than abortion with a lot of these women that are being lost to biden. the key is to pull them all in and use that money to the most effective way possible. when these women are at the ballot and these people are at the ballot, do you know it's more important than the pain the narrative and fearmongering about losing women's rights? whether i can pay for my bills next month think to this administration. >> tomi: he needs to talk to the forgotten americans and go back to 2016 trump. i agree that the economy and immigration are going to be the big issues. when you're talking about picking up women as we just discussed in the last segment, women are scared for their children and for themselves and for their communities. immigration is a real root issue with a lot of that fear. if donald trump can play into that and his economy and how he would flip biden's economy around and make it work for the forgotten american, then he w wins. >> kayleigh: very well said. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg dropping prot charges against protesters. a green light for chaos. that is next. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. 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"the new york post" ran who a lot of who these individuals are and they're very influential parents. there's a lot of crimes being solved with people wearing masks that we see on video. by isn't this enough? >> tomi: you think it would be pure to throw a curveball in here, i think this is going to backfire and democrats. there's a little thing in august called the dnc. a lot of the anti-israel -- they are really pro hamas protesters. they are going to shop for democratic events to the dnc. you have called a nation that this kind of behavior is acceptable. you are going to have a convention in august. you don't expect them to show up. now that they have been emboldened and feel entitled to do this because they don't face any repercussions, you have green that their ability to do this at every democrat event moving forward. i think it's going to backfire and democrats that think this is some kind of victory. they are showing up to your events. >> emily: we watch this prosecutor conjure up a federal statute of limitations that they couldn't articulate until jury instructions against a former president in this town but he can't prosecute 31 terrorist sympathizers. >> harris: it's a great question. i want to know where those cases where. i've interviewed students on "the faulkner focus" contemporaneously with those riots in the takeover of hamilton hall for 22 hours by those rioters who expressed that they feared for their lives. they could hear the things that were being chanted and the hate toward them. they knew that in certain other schools across the country, people were sequestered for their own protection. they were capped out. i had an attorney who said kidnapping is at play for any students that felt that they were stuck on campus with the crazies, there is that part of it. all of it deserves another look. i don't know why the doj didn't get involved top down on this either. this is a terrorist threat. it didn't start out that way. peaceful protesting protected in this country. it didn't start out that way. where it gravitated to in so many pockets and schools of privilege as you pointed out, paul, with the wealthy privileged parents behind the scenes going not my kid, not my kid. but didn't get said today is what i have the biggest question about. on behalf of those students that felt that their lives are threatened, what's happening with those cases? you can't convince me that everybody who was shouting death to jewish americans and leading the symbols on the ground and stepping on the star and all of that which we know is a threat, you can convince me that they all had on masks good what's going on those cases? >> emily: where the feds when jussie smollett made up that they beat him up. where are the feds now when we have a lot of video evidence of exactly saying those vile things while barricading students into a building? >> kayleigh: prosecuting pro-life advocates. that is where they are. where there is a well, there is a way. is this lack of evidence or lack of will? you found a way with donald trump. they called at the zombie case and you resurrected it. it was a dead case. you could do the same here. this happened weeks ago. >> emily: we leave that to you to determine. there's new speculation about trump's vice presidential selection following his campaign's latest announcement. campaign's latest announcement. stay with us. many were shocked to learn they've been paying 22% on their credit card balances. and if payments were late, as much as 30%. that's over three times the interest rate on a newday 100 va home loan. pay off high rate credit cards and other debt with a lower rate newday home loan. save hundreds a month, thousands a year. i'm admiral tom lynch chairman of newday usa. we hear from veterans all across the country. they worry a lot about being in debt and having the money they need for their families. big credit card balances can add up over time. and now just making the minimum payments can break the family budget. refinance and take control of your credit card debt. call newday usa and get the financial piece of mind that you and your family deserve upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. it's time. yes, the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food. everyday, more dog people are deciding it's time to quit the kibble and feed their dogs fresh food from the farmer's dog. made by vets and delivered right to your door precisely portioned for your dog's needs. it's an idea whose time has come. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: fox news is now confirming that former president trump will hold a rally in the key battleground state of virginia at 1 day after his face-off with president biden next friday. a key piece of information that governor glenn youngkin will join him on stage. they recently met. there's a picture of trump. you will recall that his name hasn't been appearing on any of the official vp list that have been circulating around the press. trump was asked about it. he said, i'm not ruling them out. many see youngkin as a dark horse candidate to win back the spot over a long list of contenders. i laid out one of the attributes of picking a youngkin. i showed all biden has to do -- if you remove virginia, all of us are playing defense. we look at the polling. he has an approval rating of 56%. joe biden is at 40%. 3 of 10 youngkin support joe biden. >> tomi: i think it excites a lot of the republicans who are weary of donald trump because of his personality and showmanship. i think it makes them feel better about moaning for donald trump. this election is going to be about independence. i think he has an incredible ability to call the fear of those independents out there that don't want to vote for biden. the thought of marking trump makes them nervous. this could be the perfect recipe. he doesn't check any of the identity politics boxes. that doesn't matter on the republican side. it sends a message that you are willing to go with someone who is effective and steadfast i love this idea. >> kayleigh: it is an interesting idea. you really see a candidate uniting the party. trump endorsed larry hogan him as someone who has not been kind to him. despite -- back in 2020 just had a meeting with him. you saw them shaking hands. trump is on stage with youngkin. you see a candidate who is unifying. >> emily: everything that you just said and everything you just said are totally accurate and very important. i wonder about the tiny caveat that is the identity politics. i wonder about so many of those young voters and idealists are especially shaped by and influenced by mainstream media that is accessed with criticisms against the vice president in rooted in misogyny or racism. i wonder how the democrats could wield the fact that it's 2 white men running against the party and do it in such a catastrophic way that it would obliterate the actual policy, the actual resume, the actual experience and wonderful thing those guys do. i think unfortunately, there is a large swath of the population potentially independents included that might say this is a step back. >> tomi: do they vote for those people? were they ever going to vote for trump? i feel that the people are going to be worried about that, you need somebody. i don't feel that they were ever going to vote for trump. the young people rooted in that are better off going for the moms. >> kayleigh: this was the only time when trump has been asked about youngkin as vp. let's replay it. >> you also met with governor youngkin in the party. folks are wondering if he is on the vp short-list. >> he is great. i think i could consider that. >> paul: i think there is a player in this that we have been mentioned. youngkin does declare, you haven't lost all that much in virginia. the tension in this according to what i have read and heard it relative to trump's vp pick is speech it is a bit concerned that whoever he picks is going to start campaigning for 2028 as soon as he hits the seat. trump has two win first. we all recognize that. you do want somebody there -- you have to think long time. we have had this bouncing ball where we get in the republicans do some stuff and the democrats come in and undo it. everybody gets prosecuted at the democrats come in. you want continuity. that is important and foreign policy. youngkin did the read the needle in a blue state to make a winner. he is doing something right. does that translate nationally? >> kayleigh: 10 battleground states, the busiest surrogate that trump has. speak to him and senator tim scott out there quite a bit. i would say this about the state of virginia. i think it was 3 nights ago that bill and hillary clinton along with the former governor had that backyard events. their goal was to raise $8 million for biden. he does not want to lose the state. it is the rust belt and all of that. running for president, you probably have a healthy ego. he doesn't want to lose the state. not only doesn't start the tumblers and the lock moving and now you have a real problem with trump in areas that you thought it wouldn't. calm on, man as biden would say. i can hang on to the states that i already won and beat this guy. trump hits it right right after the debate states. he goes to a place where they tried to raise millions with the clintons. i raise you 1. i'm with doug current governor. it pulled trump out even farther from biden in the fund-raiser. >> tomi: trump's campaign is running a very strategic campaign. a savvy campaign move on their part. more "outnumbered" next. did you ever worry we wouldn't get to enjoy this? 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